Problems With New Brittish Passport "Not Stamped"

[khondeehaakhaorouamdouei]

Sawasdee krap,

I would like to help a friend to sort out a visa and passport BIG PROBLEM...

Well, my mate arrived in thailand with a Non Immigrant ED multi entry valid one year, on a British Passport made in England (the Visa also).

He entered the Kingdom on the 27 Dec 2009, then did a visa run to Kuan Don border post near Satun on the 27th of March 2010. Then he lost his passport a few before he had to go on visa run again normally 25th of June. Unfortunatly his demand for a new passport at the Bankok Brittish Ambassy took too long time, and his now overstay quite a lot...

Trying to sort it out he went to Bangkok last week, the immigration haven't his name in their computer, and they told him to go himself check to the border place that he went on his last visa run...

He didn't knew the name of this border, and was back here in Surat Thani with his new passport that have no any stamp or visa on...

He have his plane ticket for the 19 of August...

Please help us to sort it out, what will he can try to do in the best way to be able to go back home without troubles?

Thanks very much for any helpfull advise...

Khop khun krap

Sawasdee krap

[Maestro]

...Trying to sort it out he went to Bangkok last week, the immigration haven't his name in their computer, and they told him to go himself check to the border place that he went on his last visa run...

He didn't knew the name of this border, and was back here in Surat Thani with his new passport that have no any stamp or visa on...

Are you saying that immigration does not even have a record of his arrival in Thailand on 27 DEC 2009? This sounds very unlikely and I wonder if your friend has told you the whole story. I see a contradiction when you first say that he "did a visa run to Kuan Don border post near Satun on the 27th of March 2010" and then you say that "he didn't knew the name of this border"

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Maestro

[7by7]

From Lost or stolen passports

You will need to obtain a replacement visa from the head office of the Thai Immigration Bureau when you have collected your replacement passport. A map will be available on collection. We suggest you allow at least one whole afternoon for this.Thai Immigration Bureau requires:

• Replacement passport
• Original police report
• Embassy letter

Copies of all the above are required.

Has he done this?

[Badbanker]

The immigration computers are not infallible!

I have dealt with several cases of people who entered Thailand legally, overstayed, and lost their passports and when they went to immigration with all the correct documents* and their new passport and gave a photocopy of their old passport with entry stamp details and passport number, the system could not find them!  This is usually from remote land borders.

On one occasion the person was charged with illegal entry, on another occasion they accepted the photo copies and on another occasion It took embassy intervention to get the person sorted out.

Exercising caution with your passport is a given, but having copies of your passport along with your latest entry stamp on file is good planning and can save a lot of headaches. 

BB

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Photocopy of old passport and latest entry stamp

Police report

Letter from embassy explaining the issuance of your new passport and stating your last entry date 

New valid passport

[khondeehaakhaorouamdouei]

...I am also surprised that they don't get his first entry at Bangkok airport, but it's look like they just ask him where he did his last visa run, and as he didn't know the name they said to him that he must go there to sort it out...

With "...they don't get his first entry at Bangkok airport...", are you saying that the immigration office also has no record of your friend's arrival in Thailand in December? If this is the case, if the immigration computer shows no arrival at all for him, there may be a problem because in this case immigration could consider him to have entered Thailand illegally. If, on the other hand, immigration has a record of his December arrival, he can offer to pay an overstay fine calculated on the basis of the 90-day permission to stay he got on that entry, ie the maximum fine of 20,000 Baht, leave Thailand and come back with or without a visa, as he prefers.

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Maestro

[khondeehaakhaorouamdouei]

The immigration computers are not infallible!

I have dealt with several cases of people who entered Thailand legally, overstayed, and lost their passports and when they went to immigration with all the correct documents* and their new passport and gave a photocopy of their old passport with entry stamp details and passport number, the system could not find them! This is usually from remote land borders.

On one occasion the person was charged with illegal entry, on another occasion they accepted the photo copies and on another occasion It took embassy intervention to get the person sorted out.

Exercising caution with your passport is a given, but having copies of your passport along with your latest entry stamp on file is good planning and can save a lot of headaches.

BB

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Photocopy of old passport and latest entry stamp

Police report

Letter from embassy explaining the issuance of your new passport and stating your last entry date

New valid passport

Thanks to answer

[lopburi3]

Flame removed.

[khondeehaakhaorouamdouei]

So is somebody think that it is a good idear to go him self to the Kuan Don border to sort it out, or return to Bangkok, or just go to take his plane on 19th august with his new passport?

please any help welcome... only help and advise...Thanks

[macanello]

I have used Kuan Don border point six times in the last 3 years and to be really honest your friend doesn't stand a chance of sorting this out there.

As it is so small there they will probably send you back to Hat Yai immigration to sort it out. To be perfectly honest I have never ever seen another farang at this border post. It is really isolated there and no one speaks English. Please check with your friend that he actually crossed at this border himself, physically, and did not use a service to get his passport stamped.

The worst scenario I can imagine will be that he might have to come all the way to Bangkok and get it done at Chaeng Wattana Immigration services. Whatever happens Immigration will not waiver the over stay, so he better be prepared to have the cash ready for this little expense.

Macanello

[lopburi3]

It appears he has max (or close) overstay regardless so just leaving and paying the max 20,000 baht fine would appear to be the best option at this point. It could be his visa trip was not done properly (especially if others handled his passport stamps) and no record is available - but even if it were he would still be overstay from the June date.

[khondeehaakhaorouamdouei]

I have used Kuan Don border point six times in the last 3 years and to be really honest your friend doesn't stand a chance of sorting this out there.

As it is so small there they will probably send you back to Hat Yai immigration to sort it out. To be perfectly honest I have never ever seen another farang at this border post. It is really isolated there and no one speaks English. Please check with your friend that he actually crossed at this border himself, physically, and did not use a service to get his passport stamped.

The worst scenario I can imagine will be that he might have to come all the way to Bangkok and get it done at Chaeng Wattana Immigration services. Whatever happens Immigration will not waiver the over stay, so he better be prepared to have the cash ready for this little expense.

Macanello

Yes he was in person in Kuan Don, no passport service or this kind of deal.

I also think better for him to go BKK with the 20,000 cash to pay the fine...

Thanks