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Bhum Jai Thai Boss Warned of Assassination

BANGKOK: -- A People's Alliance for Democracy leader claims Bhum Jai Thai Party de facto leader Newin Chidchob may be targeted for assassination due to squabbles with ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

He assumes that recent violent incidents may have been coordinated.

People's Alliance for Democracy, or PAD, chief Sondhi Limthongkul observed that the grenade attack at the NBT TV station as well as sabotage warned by the Pheu Thai Party may all be within the knowledge of the nation's security officials and politicians.

He noted that such incidents have bearing on the soon-to-be decided matters of the government budget and army reshuffle. Sondhi insists that these issues could even lead to a House dissolution.

Sondhi continued with his speculation, saying the Bhum Jai Thai Party's reshuffle of Interior Ministry officials is indicative of preparations for a new general election.

The PAD leader warned that de facto Bhum Jai Thai head Newin Chidchob may be targeted for assassination due to his offenses against fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Sonthi later assured that he will seek legal action against investigators who charged PAD members with terrorism for their protests at Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang airports, but declined to give any further detail.

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-- Tan Network 2010-09-02

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And this is news????

Of course there are those that would removed Newin if the could.

He effectively holds the keys to the treasury and that's the unholy grail sought by most.

Thaksin shouldn't have made him lose so much face in Hong Kong those long long years ago.

He's been paying the price ever since. And consequently lost more face than he took from Newin.

And at this height in the game that's a blood offense in many circles.

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Banned from politics! What's a poor lad to do in spare time?

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Reading the OP I only wonder why K. Sondhi felt a need to talk and say all these non-issues. Nothing new here, some speculation. Doesn't he have anything else to do since he more-or-less resigned from the PAD?

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Newin only has one alliance - a bank book - and he will follow the money trail and has no allegiance to any party - ever! ohmy.gif

So a typical Thai politician.

But I venture, he's quite a bit smarter than most.

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In light of the Bhum Jai Thai Party headquarters bombing and the shootings of Bhum Jai Thai Party politicians in Sisaket, it's not much of a stretch to see the boss of Bhum Jai Thai Party being targeted next.

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In light of the Bhum Jai Thai Party headquarters bombing and the shootings of Bhum Jai Thai Party politicians in Sisaket, it's not much of a stretch to see the boss of Bhum Jai Thai Party being targeted next.

Time honored Thai tradition of solving a business conflict, you mean ?

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Reading the OP I only wonder why K. Sondhi felt a need to talk and say all these non-issues. Nothing new here, some speculation. Doesn't he have anything else to do since he more-or-less resigned from the PAD?

Sondhi, a convicted slanderer and liar, why talk at all? but Newin is traitor to Thaksin and also he steam rolled a PAD leaning Party out of minister seats and finances.

If he gets killed, as previous attempt, not so easy for Sondhi to blame the reds. Myabe it will be the black shirts, the red shirts, the yellow shirts, the cia, muslims cambodians.

BJT is getting too big for it's britches and got there from jumping back and forth across the crick. At least 4 other groups would do it who can profit from more conflict.

Sondhi's statement looks more like a plan than a warning.

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Is it not even a tad sad that we're in a country where possible assassinations of politicians (or others) is discussed as a commonly accepted possibility?

There's a very steep hill to climb ahead.

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Sondhi's statement looks more like a plan than a warning.

What about it looks like a "plan"? :blink:

In reading the OP, the review of the attacks on BJT reads like a level-headed warning, a not-unexpected warning given the all that has been happening to BJT like bombings and shootings.

In many ways, it's a serial statement of the obvious.

It also highlights that historical perspective that people who have crossed Thaksin or threatened his position in the past, can end up not of this world.

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Reading the OP I only wonder why K. Sondhi felt a need to talk and say all these non-issues. Nothing new here, some speculation. Doesn't he have anything else to do since he more-or-less resigned from the PAD?

Sondhi, a convicted slanderer and liar, why talk at all? but Newin is traitor to Thaksin and also he steam rolled a PAD leaning Party out of minister seats and finances.

If he gets killed, as previous attempt, not so easy for Sondhi to blame the reds. Myabe it will be the black shirts, the red shirts, the yellow shirts, the cia, muslims cambodians.

BJT is getting too big for it's britches and got there from jumping back and forth across the crick. At least 4 other groups would do it who can profit from more conflict.

Sondhi's statement looks more like a plan than a warning.

The red shirts and black shirts are the same, aren't they?

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When the next election rolls around Peau Thai and Bum Jai Thai are going to fight bitterly for Isarn. It's going to be very messy, involving lots of bidding and enormous amounts of money. And if/when PT get a chance to form a government they are almost certainly going to need to talk to Newin. I'm quite sure Thaksin absolutely hates his guts for being disloyal but he's going to have to offer BJT the earth to get their co-operation. One way or another they absolutely will be in the next coalition, but if they join PT they are going to have to fight tooth and nail to keep Thaksin's influence under control, if he's allowed to make a comeback the first thing on his agenda will be to destroy Newin.

interesting times ahead, and it remains to be seen how much of Isarn turn their backs on BJT for dumping Thaksin/PT. For sure several of the present BJT seats will fall to PT, but the PT defectors we are seeing will run to BJT.

PT needs to get at least 200 seats in the next election otherwise they haven't a hope in hel_l of reversing the 2007 constitution to achieve their number 1 goal. They are hoping for 240 plus so they don't need to rely on coalition partners who can block them. My guess is PT will get less than 180 this time around.

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Thaksin and those allied with him were severely disadvantaged by Newins change of side, and their whole game plan has been repeatedly undermined by him. Now he is chipping away at the edges of their parliamentary machine, after having taken a large number out already, while their red shirt experiment is in tatters at the hands of a military close to his main men. And a huge number of local elected polticos in the Isaan are close to BJT stretching well intio Isaan Pattana and other territory. And most of the intitial red shirt movement was set up by Newin which means he knows more about its organization and abilities than even many of the current leaders.

No news but totally obvious. However, Im sure he is a hard man to get to. One of the most wily and clever polticians in Thailand today

The nexty election battle is not between Dems and PTP who have virtually non-overlapping areas of control but between BJT and PTP. If BJT holds what it has already PTP is in opposition. IF BJT makes gians and soem PTP MPs claim they will then it is even worse for PTP.

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I don't think the current Pumjaithai MPs are popular with the people.

Ageing,uninspiring and frankly unattractive, Chawarat and Porntiwa are hardly vote winners in spite of their war chest and clout in various ministries.

Newin has to persuade well established Pheua Thai MPs in Issan and the north to jump ship, and that won't be easy. He is seen as a betrayer and there is absolutely nothing to get excited about Pumjaithai.

Folks shouldn't think too much about the next election, it could well be over a year away.

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I don't think the current Pumjaithai MPs are popular with the people.

Ageing,uninspiring and frankly unattractive, Chawarat and Porntiwa are hardly vote winners in spite of their war chest and clout in various ministries.

Newin has to persuade well established Pheua Thai MPs in Issan and the north to jump ship, and that won't be easy. He is seen as a betrayer and there is absolutely nothing to get excited about Pumjaithai.

Folks shouldn't think too much about the next election, it could well be over a year away.

Betrayer of Thaksin maybe, but after Thaksin betrayed him and expected him to stay to heel anyway.Thaksin misjudged Newin's drive and intelligence. Or he saw it and tried to slap it back down.

Politically Newin is in the same party alliance bargaining position

as most of the MP's in PTP have as their origins. They came to TRT from somewhere else. Thaksin purchased their allegiances and even though he made such a large FACADE of a single party, TRT, it was really multiple parties, that he RENAMED 'Factions', no doubt for extra payments to the leaders to take a back seat.

Newin was a stand out in one of them. He expected a suitable reward and Thaksin didn't deliver, and it went to 'bull in a china shop', Chalerm instead. No doubt that was the turning point. Thaksin showed weakness, slighted him and Newin move on.

Same with Banharn, Sanoh and many others, aging regional godfathers bargaining their voting blocks to the best advantage.

When Thaksin stopped delivering their allegiance also ended, or back-burnered.

Now the much younger Newin has now moved up from local to national power broker, and in the same stroke is getting back at the man who dissed him so many years ago, same as Thaksin has done to so many others in his rise to prominence.

If there is a reason for Thaksin to hate Newin it is because

he plays the game as well at a much younger age.

Yes Newin is a threat to many entrenched interests just because he plays the game so well. And no doubt he knows he is a big league target and has taken appropriate precautions. This warning is for public consumption, Newin knows already that precaution is needed.

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I know they choose the job but its very scary.

Why do politians have to hold a degree? anyone know the answer to this?

Yes. They don't. Under the present constitution there is no requirement of a university degree for an a person to be an MP.

There is a requirement of a degree for a cabinet member (minster) or the PM.

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I know they choose the job but its very scary.

Why do politians have to hold a degree? anyone know the answer to this?

Yes. They don't. Under the present constitution there is no requirement of a university degree for an a person to be an MP.

There is a requirement of a degree for a cabinet member (minster) or the PM.

Oh, so that's ok then :blink: .

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I know they choose the job but its very scary.

Why do politians have to hold a degree? anyone know the answer to this?

Yes. They don't. Under the present constitution there is no requirement of a university degree for an a person to be an MP.

There is a requirement of a degree for a cabinet member (minster) or the PM.

Oh, so that's ok then :blink: .

Absolutely. A minister controls important aspects of the government and the country as a whole. Without an appropriate education he cannot hope to have the knowledge to govern properly. Degrees in economics, political science, finance, history, or other similar fields are reasonable expectations to have of a person controlling the government purse strings and forming national policy.

An MP is responsible to his constituency and is a legislator. An MP is the voice of the people in his constituency, and therefore a formal degree is not necessary. This is a very different role compared with that of a minister in my opinion.

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Without an appropriate education he cannot hope to have the knowledge to govern properly. Degrees in economics, political science, finance, history, or other similar fields are reasonable expectations to have of a person controlling the government purse strings and forming national policy.

President Truman and PM John Major disagree with you.

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President Truman and PM John Major disagree with you.

So will others. I'm okay with that. Many will also agree. Such is the nature of life.

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Degrees are often thought absolutely necessary to those whose entire early life was centred around achieving one and not much else and completely unnecessary by those who have managed to surpass themselves without one.

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Without an appropriate education he cannot hope to have the knowledge to govern properly. Degrees in economics, political science, finance, history, or other similar fields are reasonable expectations to have of a person controlling the government purse strings and forming national policy.

President Truman and PM John Major disagree with you.

Which part of Degrees are reasonable expectations to have of ... would they disagree with. They would probably say that whereas degrees in certain areas may raise expectations, real-life experience should not be ruled out either.

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Degrees are often thought absolutely necessary to those whose entire early life was centred around achieving one and not much else and completely unnecessary by those who have managed to surpass themselves without one.

I see your point. As a counterpoint though consider the following questions.

1) Do you think doctors should have a medical degree?

2) Do you believe civil engineers should have degrees in their field?

3) Would you hire a lawyer without a juris doctor?

If any of the answers to these questions are no then why would you want a person forming national policy who has no education and training in relevant areas?

As another point, the people you mention grew up in a time when a much lower percentage of the population attended university. Times have changed since then.

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A demand of a degree is just another way to keep some 'unwanted' individuals out. Hence why it is so fun that PT want the old constitution back where even a normal MP position demanded a degree - i.e. even harder for any poor to get into any position of influence. Fighting for the poor by making it harder for them to gain influence...alrighty then...

The need for a degree is as useful as demanding an IQ or EQ test before allowing anyone to enter their elected position. Actually, even less. The latter atleast might indicate something of value.

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1) Do you think doctors should have a medical degree?

You don't need to know how to operate on a patient to form a policy for how much money the government should allocate to help out hospitals. It isn't even remotely the same.

And frankly, most [legit] things the government deals with doesn't require a degree OR does infact require a PH.D. or more in economics if you expect the MPs to themselves formulate economical theories. But we don't, we just require them to listen and chose the most applicable one.

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