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I would leave richard 7 to his own devises , he has told us he is a well travelled man and VERY conversant in the ways of women , struth , he has spent time with the notorious ladies of Amsterdam , he is obviously so well versed I wonder why he is even on TV , the working ladies of Thailand will enjoy a newbee such as this to get thier avid teeth in , scoff at helpfull members EH . We shall remember him , with the going down of the sun__________

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The comment about the largest number of English speakers are bar girls is typical of the nonsense people actually believe, yes it would help to speak Thai, but the largest group of people who speak English are college graduates not bar girls. Where people come up with this kind of nonsense is beyond me.

I would disagree, the largest group of Thais who speak understandable English are the wives and step-children of English speaking men.

College/University graduates can usually read and write a little but speak none (well none that any English speaker could understand)

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Dude your crazy man ! I was not recomending any of that ...LOL ...... Once again the VERY low class thinking gets in your way. And NO not all or even most middle classed girls are not allowed to date farang ! LOL Just more defeatist nonsense. He was asking about finding a girlfriend and your best advice is to send him to experienced hookers ! ROFL ...... Once again Richard, don't pay any attention to this kind of nonsense. My personal belief is that it comes from people who have such low self confidence that they settled for a bar girl type and now have a lot of explanations and excuses as to why it's impossible to find a girlfriend in Thailand that's not a hooker ! LOL Or why hookers in Thailand are quazi hookers not really hookers so that makes it "different".

Once again just stay away from the sleaze ..... and Ian if you had read my post I did tell him to find a bar girl if all he wanted was a shag, so your comments are not only without basis but clearly opposite to what I posted.

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Speaks no Thai... never been to Thailand before, knows nothing about the culture or society or customs..... Coming for a vacation (short-time) visit.... Uh huh......

Just remember these rules to live by: When she says she wants to go shopping at a gold jewelry shop, tell her you've got to go meet a friend. When she starts talking about sending money back home for her sick mother/father/brother/aunt/cousin, tell her all your money is tied up in the British stock market....

BTW, did anybody tell him to be on the lookout for katoeys???:rolleyes:

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Speaks no Thai... never been to Thailand before, knows nothing about the culture or society or customs..... Coming for a vacation (short-time) visit.... Uh huh......

Just remember these rules to live by: When she says she wants to go shopping at a gold jewelry shop, tell her you've got to go meet a friend. When she starts talking about sending money back home for her sick mother/father/brother/aunt/cousin, tell her all your money is tied up in the British stock market....

BTW, did anybody tell him to be on the lookout for katoeys???:rolleyes:

Think its best to let him find out by himself .whistling.gif

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I suggest the OP makes his Diploma @ walking street first...then he is either broke or back home with a "broken heart" if not screwed up mind... :whistling: but well, yes and there are those who believe in those exceptions! :lol: At "bed supper Club" or similar venues it's only a couple of shelves further up, unless you come herewith a working contract and work for a foreign company, there are very, very few options, and really no choices!

take care ....!

take GOOD care of yourself!

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If you want to have fun with girls, why are you even asking questions on TV. God i dont understand you kind of people, just come here for sex like most tourist and thats all. No questions asked

If you are looking for a real relation, forget about it before you know the asian culture first and have an income here. Otherwise why would a normal girl with a job fall in love with a foreigner without a job and whos probably going to return to his country a couple month later.

Stop dreaming

and please dont call a thaigurl you pick up in a bar your girlfriend:lol: :lol: :lol: .

i never did understand the concept of a tourist going 4 office girlsor good girls. a girl has fun for a week , then what is she supposed to do????????/

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Dude your crazy man ! I was not recomending any of that ...LOL ...... Once again the VERY low class thinking gets in your way. And NO not all or even most middle classed girls are not allowed to date farang ! LOL Just more defeatist nonsense. He was asking about finding a girlfriend and your best advice is to send him to experienced hookers ! ROFL ...... Once again Richard, don't pay any attention to this kind of nonsense. My personal belief is that it comes from people who have such low self confidence that they settled for a bar girl type and now have a lot of explanations and excuses as to why it's impossible to find a girlfriend in Thailand that's not a hooker ! LOL Or why hookers in Thailand are quazi hookers not really hookers so that makes it "different".

Once again just stay away from the sleaze ..... and Ian if you had read my post I did tell him to find a bar girl if all he wanted was a shag, so your comments are not only without basis but clearly opposite to what I posted.

No, it is you that just doesn't understand the OP's topic. He is coming to Koh Samui which is a known tourist center where 80% of the women working or living there are involved in the bar scene in some capacity or another. I'm sure sbk can back me up on that. I believe she lives down that way on a neighbouring island. He is NOT going to be working or living near a university where there are lots of young women from middle income (or better) families. If the OP is looking for a little romance with a nice Thai girl then he is unlikely to find it on Koh Samui without staying there for more than just the usual tourist visit.

Believe it or not, most nice Thai girls do not date farang tourists unless they've known them for several months. Yes, there is the occasional pretty girl working as domestic help in one of the better hotels, but they are few and far between. Most don't speak English. And, believe it or not, there are a FEW that work in Pattaya hotels that are also nice, innocent girls. But again, they are hard to find and seldom date tourists. They don't want to get the bad name for doing so. Any young Thai woman who is dating a farang man in a city known for its sex trade will be automatically deemed a hooker... whether it's true or not. There was a whole topic on that subject.

I've got 3 friends with grown daughters going to university in Chiang Mai. I can assure you that none of them go out with farang tourists. Nor would they be allowed to without supervision.

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Once again all I hear is a bunch of defeatist excuses as to why he should just give up on finding a normal girl and date hookers ! LOL ........ It's just more nonsense .... let's say your correct, that leaves 20% of the population left to date. How do people get to know each other for 3 months ...... they hang out and chat ! ........ It's just silly nonsense to say that a tourist can't possibly find a girl to hang out with unless she is a hooker. I actually feel quite sorry for you and anyone else that really believes that hookers are the only option, and the reason is because they believe that because it was the only option for THEM. I know I know not you ! LOL ...... Anyhow Richard don't worry just go about your vacation and have fun ....... I guess I wonder why most everyone talks about their non hooker wives while at the same time saying how impossible it is to find a non hooker wife ! Either their wives were in fact hookers or it's not as hard as all that ! LOL ...... Ian the funniest thing was he was asking about finding a girlfriend and somehow you jumped to lying to get in her pants ! ........ I don't think a one night stand and a girlfriend are the same thing even though it might end up that way. .............. Anyhow you seem very adamant that hookers are a tourists only option and I'm not so sorry to tell you that that is just nonsense.

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I came hear 2 years ago, 24, reasonably attractive, and with no income. You can find good girls just fine. I've done it, as have many of my friends. Don't look in gogo bars. Make friends with Thai guys as well as Thai women. Everyone I know who has found a good girl has done it because they tried to be friends with Thai people instead of walking around hunting down their women.

Just keep your wits about as there are lots of women who are just looking for a pay check. Theres also lots of girls who have their paychecks who are looking for a young guy to have fun with. Not exactly a good girl by my definition, but good fun and won't be trying to rob or scam you. Good luck.

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whats in it for a good girl to date a guy on vacation???????????

i just dont understad it. a good girl prolly has responsibilities like going to a job, helping the family,etc. where would she even have the time and energy to invest in a guy visiting here short time?

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I came hear 2 years ago, 24, reasonably attractive, and with no income. You can find good girls just fine. I've done it, as have many of my friends. Don't look in gogo bars. Make friends with Thai guys as well as Thai women. Everyone I know who has found a good girl has done it because they tried to be friends with Thai people instead of walking around hunting down their women.

Just keep your wits about as there are lots of women who are just looking for a pay check. Theres also lots of girls who have their paychecks who are looking for a young guy to have fun with. Not exactly a good girl by my definition, but good fun and won't be trying to rob or scam you. Good luck.

post like this smell to high heaven!

if you no income how do you live.all your friends are reasonably attractive?:lol: :lol: :lol: boys anywhere with no income are a hot commodity i hear.................lol.:blink: :blink:

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I came hear 2 years ago, 24, reasonably attractive, and with no income. You can find good girls just fine. I've done it, as have many of my friends. Don't look in gogo bars. Make friends with Thai guys as well as Thai women. Everyone I know who has found a good girl has done it because they tried to be friends with Thai people instead of walking around hunting down their women.

Just keep your wits about as there are lots of women who are just looking for a pay check. Theres also lots of girls who have their paychecks who are looking for a young guy to have fun with. Not exactly a good girl by my definition, but good fun and won't be trying to rob or scam you. Good luck.

post like this smell to high heaven!

if you no income how do you live.all your friends are reasonably attractive?:lol: :lol: :lol: boys anywhere with no income are a hot commodity i hear.................lol.:blink: :blink:

Had no income mate. I had money I brought with me, but not much. I then got a job and have income now. And yes, all of my friends are young and reasonably attractive. Not super stars, just reasonably attractive. I.e. Young, not fat, well groomed, dress appropriately.

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whats in it for a good girl to date a guy on vacation???????????

i just dont understad it. a good girl prolly has responsibilities like going to a job, helping the family,etc. where would she even have the time and energy to invest in a guy visiting here short time?

My O My ....... She has the same time and energy to date weather it's a tourist or local ...... and what's in it for her is to go out and have a nice time with the possibility that things could become romantic in the future with someone she finds attractive and interesting the same as most all dates ....... Did you people EVER get a date or just buy hookers ? ROFL

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I came hear 2 years ago, 24, reasonably attractive, and with no income. You can find good girls just fine. I've done it, as have many of my friends. Don't look in gogo bars. Make friends with Thai guys as well as Thai women. Everyone I know who has found a good girl has done it because they tried to be friends with Thai people instead of walking around hunting down their women.

Just keep your wits about as there are lots of women who are just looking for a pay check. Theres also lots of girls who have their paychecks who are looking for a young guy to have fun with. Not exactly a good girl by my definition, but good fun and won't be trying to rob or scam you. Good luck.

post like this smell to high heaven!

if you no income how do you live.all your friends are reasonably attractive?:lol: :lol: :lol: boys anywhere with no income are a hot commodity i hear.................lol.:blink: :blink:

Had no income mate. I had money I brought with me, but not much. I then got a job and have income now. And yes, all of my friends are young and reasonably attractive. Not super stars, just reasonably attractive. I.e. Young, not fat, well groomed, dress appropriately.

What's astonishing dude is that he, and others as well, find it so impossible to believe that a young man could come to Thailand and form a relationship with someone who is not a hooker ! It's funny in a way and sad in another

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we dont believe its impossible..............but for a tourist to think he gonna pick up a nice office girl for free is ludicrious! only way i see it is if man lie thru his teeth promising this and that.

if im a hot thai good girl, no way am i thinking of going out w a tourist in the hopes it turn into long time relationship.

ps i hear govt is thinking about putting iodine or something in water to raise iq level of its people............so maybe the stupidity of thai girls is possible:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Op says "I like partying.. drinking etc"

and later mentions 'keeping his wits about him'

I've seen many that have failed miserably and consistently to make that perfect combination!! on occasion me included!!!:D

No problem refusing an attractive lady sitting in front of a keyboard, big difference when she is sitting next to you, encouraging and available, sun, sea, holiday mode, plus a few constantly topped up beers on board.

Also I agree, the window shopping in Amsterdam is no comparrison or preparation for Thailand at all.

As I said way back in the thread Op.....have your holiday...do it your way....because you will anyway.....enjoy

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we dont believe its impossible..............but for a tourist to think he gonna pick up a nice office girl for free is ludicrious! only way i see it is if man lie thru his teeth promising this and that.

if im a hot thai good girl, no way am i thinking of going out w a tourist in the hopes it turn into long time relationship.

ps i hear govt is thinking about putting iodine or something in water to raise iq level of its people............so maybe the stupidity of thai girls is possible:lol: :lol: :lol:

I guess I just have to ask you why do you think it's so crazy ? And why do you think lying would be mandatory ? If your a "Hot" Thai girl and a "hot" tourist came along that interested you why wouldn't you go have a cup of coffee ? I don't mean to be disrespectful but is it because of your lack of sucsess? Do you think this applys in all countries or is it just Thai girls ? Do you have a Thai girl ? Was she a hooker? Sorry to get personal but I am curious as to how you developed this line of thinking. Which is completely contrairy to mine and my experiences.

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Any young Thai woman who is dating a farang man in a city known for its sex trade will be automatically deemed a hooker... whether it's true or not. There was a whole topic on that subject.

I've got 3 friends with grown daughters going to university in Chiang Mai. I can assure you that none of them go out with farang tourists. Nor would they be allowed to without supervision.

I usually agree with you Ian, but not in this case.

1) Anyone that has ever worked in Bangkok gets labeled as "that hooker from Bangkok" in the village my wife comes from. I have to assume her village is Typical. I'm pretty sure they know what happens in Pattaya as well, so if they date a white man or not, doesn't really matter, just the geographic area they worked.

2) My friends (very bad men) specialise in picking up university girls around the Santhitham area of ChiangMai, they speak some Thai and are very good at doing what they do. It's not that hard, and the girls "parents and parents friends" are not informed about any goings on. Of course my friends are not tourists and play a longer game.

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we dont believe its impossible..............but for a tourist to think he gonna pick up a nice office girl for free is ludicrious! only way i see it is if man lie thru his teeth promising this and that.

if im a hot thai good girl, no way am i thinking of going out w a tourist in the hopes it turn into long time relationship.

ps i hear govt is thinking about putting iodine or something in water to raise iq level of its people............so maybe the stupidity of thai girls is possible:lol: :lol: :lol:

And how does going out on a date with a tourist relate to stupidity ? And girls go out on dates for fun mostly not with great hopes for the future until it gets a little more serious ........ It's just strange that you think a girl has to be stupid to go on a date or even mentioned stupidity at all.

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we dont believe its impossible..............but for a tourist to think he gonna pick up a nice office girl for free is ludicrious! only way i see it is if man lie thru his teeth promising this and that.

if im a hot thai good girl, no way am i thinking of going out w a tourist in the hopes it turn into long time relationship.

ps i hear govt is thinking about putting iodine or something in water to raise iq level of its people............so maybe the stupidity of thai girls is possible:lol: :lol: :lol:

And how does going out on a date with a tourist relate to stupidity ? And girls go out on dates for fun mostly not with great hopes for the future until it gets a little more serious ........ It's just strange that you think a girl has to be stupid to go on a date or even mentioned stupidity at all.

think it thru.

if you a smart good hot thai girl, you know what single men cum to thailand for. are you going to have coffee with a tourist you meet off the streets?

actually i dont go for good girls, i go for the hookers..............lol. im only there for fun, not looking for some hot issarn babe to marry.

BUT INTELLECTUALLY, THAI GIRLS WANTING JUST TO HAVE FUN WITH A TOURIST just dont make sense. give examples of your relationships you have w good girls,those that know you there for only a vacation.

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we dont believe its impossible..............but for a tourist to think he gonna pick up a nice office girl for free is ludicrious! only way i see it is if man lie thru his teeth promising this and that.

if im a hot thai good girl, no way am i thinking of going out w a tourist in the hopes it turn into long time relationship.

ps i hear govt is thinking about putting iodine or something in water to raise iq level of its people............so maybe the stupidity of thai girls is possible:lol: :lol: :lol:

And how does going out on a date with a tourist relate to stupidity ? And girls go out on dates for fun mostly not with great hopes for the future until it gets a little more serious ........ It's just strange that you think a girl has to be stupid to go on a date or even mentioned stupidity at all.

think it thru.

if you a smart good hot thai girl, you know what single men cum to thailand for. are you going to have coffee with a tourist you meet off the streets?

actually i dont go for good girls, i go for the hookers..............lol. im only there for fun, not looking for some hot issarn babe to marry.

BUT INTELLECTUALLY, THAI GIRLS WANTING JUST TO HAVE FUN WITH A TOURIST just dont make sense. give examples of your relationships you have w good girls,those that know you there for only a vacation.

Well that pretty much explains it then Thankx ........ My relationships are pretty typical of dates in the us, asking a girl at the mall for coffee, ect. I have been married for a while but I never had a problem getting a coffee or dinner date before I was. Why do you think thai girls wanting to have fun with a tourist doesn't make sense ? My guess is and you sort of said it ...... is that you think that everyone looks at all tourists like they would look at you, and that's just not the case. You have those beliefs because they apply to you and you think they apply to everyone else. I am not saying it's a bad thing it's just your perspective based on your behavior, others with different behavior have a different perspective. A do gooder xian missionary for example would not have the same outlook at how impossible it would be to find a date. My guess is you can't even imagine a date without at least asking for sex ! .... and in that case your correct it would be very hard for a person like that as a tourist to find a date !

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2009 say you have a hot smokin thai daughter.

im assume you know what single guys up to in thailand. you would bless every fun farang man who ask your daughter for a date...............lol.

theres parents who warn their daughters to stay away from tourists, ya know! i just cant believe thais are stioopid!

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I remember talking to a german guy in Chang Mai who was sitting next to a young girl at a bar , about thai women bar girls etc , who then told me that i should forget about ever pulling a real Thai girl , youve got no chance he said they never give us falangs a second look , he said trust me ive been here for 22 years and ive tried many times, i then told him i have gf and she isnt a bar girl , no way he said i dont believe it i have much experience it never happens, i then said think what you want but as long as im happy i dont care what you think, so i said to him but dont you think if you tried for someone nearer your own age you might have some success and you wont have to go with bar girls , no chance he said i dont like anything over 30 , and even for me thats quite old i prefer 18 to 21 less kilometers on the clock he then laughed and gulped down his beer and took a huge drag of his fowl smelling cigarette , mmmm i silently thought to myself but theres a slight difference between me and you youre 63 years old ! and the best part of 20 stone ! and im 30 and average weight , now ive nothing against fat people or old people , but what normal girl in thier right mind would be interested in this guy unless there was a financial incentive in it for them ? , Then the waitress or bar tender said your food ready now and handed over a large cooked breakfast , and the guy started munching his way threw it , sweat pouring down his face , poor little girl next to him looked bored to death and just sat there waiting for her next order from herr goering !, my girlfriend and her pal then came to pick me up so i finished my beer , paid up and said farewell. Just as the three of us were getting on the bike outside i said to my gf that man in bar thinks only lady bar go with falang man , she glanced over and said to me yes but who is want to go with that man are you crazy ? He old and fat ! , she then spoke to her pal who only speaks thai and they both started laughing , at big hermann as we departed !

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2009 say you have a hot smokin thai daughter.

im assume you know what single guys up to in thailand. you would bless every fun farang man who ask your daughter for a date...............lol.

theres parents who warn their daughters to stay away from tourists, ya know! i just cant believe thais are stioopid!

Nope sorry no kids ...... I would like to think I would allow my daughter to do as she pleased but who knows.

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It is an interesting discussion but we are not focusing on the original topic. Yes, there are lots of nice women in Thailand who MIGHT be willing to date a farang. I'm 70 years old and I STILL have dates with nice Thai women in their 30s and 40s (not hookers). There is no sex involved because I don't want any with those women. But that's because I'm not interested in having a relationship, I don't spend much of my time in places like Koh Samui and other noted tourist centers because it's too commercial. If the OP just wants to have a coffee or light meal with some nice, young Thai women In a city like Chiang Mai , then I'm sure he will find them. But it's not so easy in Koh Samui, Patong beach in Phuket, Pattaya or the sleazy sections of Bangkok. Chiang Mai has a broader range of activities than most other Thai cities (other than Bangkok) and yet is small enough to get around easily. It is much easier to get away from the bar scene,and yet still close enough to sample it from time to time. What Chiang Mai lacks is an ocean beach and the full moon parties in Koh Pha Ngan. Actually, I prefer Krabi to either Koh Samui or Phuket for the beach scene. Although I did enjoy my stay in Koh Samui, I think it is over rated, and from what I've heard recently, over priced as well.

If I was coming to Thailand for the first time I would stay the first few days in Bangkok to get a feel for the country and visit the few touristy things such as the King's palace, the temple of Dawn (Wat Arun) and possibly a day trip to Ayutthaya. Then I'd take the three hour bus ride to Kanchanaburi and see the mountains and waterfalls, From there I'd head down to the Krabi area and the beach scene. Depending on the time and my pocketbook I'd head over to Pattaya for no other reason than to see what everyone is talking about. There is a great, off shore island (KoH Larn) near Pattaya if you haven't gotten tired of beaches. The ferry to Koh Larn only cost a few dollars and leaves every hour or so. The beach in front of Pattaya is rather dirty.

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