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I'm looking for a particular kind of gold fish that is supposedly bred at fish farms in Thailand but for export to acquarium market overseas (Japan, Singapore, etc). This particular gold fish has distinctive scale as you can see in the picture below (called "pearl scale") and very round in its shape. Thais would call it "Kred Keaw" (or glass scale) though most Thais don't know this fish. I have bought and brought 3 of them from Japan last year but they all died out in less than a year. Now I hate to have to fly and go through all the security checks, immigration and customs with live gold fish again and I now have an uncomfirmed info that they are bred in fish farms in China, Thailand and Singapore, so contemplating getting one in Thailand.

I have already found a farm in Ayutthaya a few years ago but this pearl scale from Ayutthaya farm has come from "Oranda" strain (bottom pic) and I'm now looking for pearl scale of "Ryukin" breed/strain (upper two photos). Does anyone know of a gold fish farm in LOS that breeds this particular strain (Ryukin) of pearl scale? I've already looked up at JJ market, Sunday Plaza, etc but to no avail. I would assume they are to be located in central provinces not far from BKK (Ratchaburi, Ayutthaya, Samut Prakarn, Samut Sakhorn, etc).

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I'm looking for a particular kind of gold fish that is supposedly bred at fish farms in Thailand but for export to acquarium market overseas (Japan, Singapore, etc).  This particular gold fish has distinctive scale as you can see in the picture below (called "pearl scale") and very round in its shape.  Thais would call it "Kred Keaw" (or glass scale) though most Thais don't know this fish.  I have bought and brought 3 of them from Japan last year but they all died out in less than a year.  Now I hate to have to fly and go through all the security checks, immigration and customs with live gold fish again and I now have an uncomfirmed info that they are bred in fish farms in China, Thailand and Singapore, so contemplating getting one in Thailand. 

I have already found a farm in Ayutthaya a few years ago but this pearl scale from Ayutthaya farm has come from "Oranda" strain (bottom pic) and I'm now looking for pearl scale of "Ryukin" breed/strain (upper two photos).  Does anyone know of a gold fish farm in LOS that breeds this particular strain (Ryukin) of pearl scale?  I've already looked up at JJ market, Sunday Plaza, etc but to no avail.  I would assume they are to be located in central provinces not far from BKK (Ratchaburi, Ayutthaya, Samut Prakarn, Samut Sakhorn, etc). 

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How do you prepare them - stirfried with garlic and pepper? :D

Sorry - couldn't resist. Have you tried looking around Chatuchak market in Bangkok? They have a whole section dedicated to fish - aquarium type fish, that is.... :o

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[How do you prepare them - stirfried with garlic and pepper?  :D

Sashimi! :o (kidding)

Sorry - couldn't resist.  Have you tried looking around Chatuchak market in Bangkok? They have a whole section dedicated to fish - aquarium type fish, that is.... :D

Yes, I did. I think you're referring to Sunday Plaza next to Chatuchak market and most shops there don't even know of pearl scale... The only one that knew turned out to be the farm owner in Ayutthaya but as I wrote in the previous post, they only have Oranda strain. :D

BTW the pearl scale I'm looking for (Ryukin strain) has much shorter tail fin than the Oranda , and doesn't have the wart-like growth on its head.

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I'm looking for a particular kind of gold fish that is supposedly bred at fish farms in Thailand but for export to acquarium market overseas (Japan, Singapore, etc).  This particular gold fish has distinctive scale as you can see in the picture below (called "pearl scale") and very round in its shape.  Thais would call it "Kred Keaw" (or glass scale) though most Thais don't know this fish.  I have bought and brought 3 of them from Japan last year but they all died out in less than a year.  Now I hate to have to fly and go through all the security checks, immigration and customs with live gold fish again and I now have an uncomfirmed info that they are bred in fish farms in China, Thailand and Singapore, so contemplating getting one in Thailand. 

I have already found a farm in Ayutthaya a few years ago but this pearl scale from Ayutthaya farm has come from "Oranda" strain (bottom pic) and I'm now looking for pearl scale of "Ryukin" breed/strain (upper two photos).  Does anyone know of a gold fish farm in LOS that breeds this particular strain (Ryukin) of pearl scale?  I've already looked up at JJ market, Sunday Plaza, etc but to no avail.  I would assume they are to be located in central provinces not far from BKK (Ratchaburi, Ayutthaya, Samut Prakarn, Samut Sakhorn, etc). 

Try this place they maybe able to help or put you in contact with somebdy that can http://www.ppaquarium.com/

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Personally I couldn't think of a more horrible type of fish to keep. I used to sell them actually, and the horribly deformed bodies were always grotesque to me, and often meant the fish had health problems.

Still, each to his own, found a few sites for you here. Got Ryukins listed and Ranchus and the like, I expect they could probably source you some pearlscales too.

http://www2.thaisecondhand.com/world2/boar...T&CAT1Name=Pets

The above links to a website entirely in Thai but I'm sure you can find a phone number on there somewhere.

http://www.geocities.com/nongjog1/

and this one looks quite good for the Thai Ranchu farm

http://www.bensfish.wanadoo.co.uk/thairanchucentre.htm

If you visit any of these farms, be sure to PM me and let me know what they were like for other kinds of fish to, I would be interested in checking them out myself sometime.

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Thanks for the links, Thaicoon and bkkmadness. :D

Wow, some of those farms in the links look so big!! I can't believe they're in Bangkok! One of them (Siam Goldfish International) is so close to where I live, walking distance from my condo (is it possible to have fish farm in central BKK?)!

Have you two actually visited any of those farms? I wonder if their fish is as good as how they appear in those pics. Either way I will check them out myself. Always love to go visit fish farms.

If I can't find pearl scales I might just settle with Ranchu, Ryukin or Tosakin if they have good ones. I heard Tosakin is very difficult to keep though.

Personally I couldn't think of a more horrible type of fish to keep.  I used to sell them actually, and the horribly deformed bodies were always grotesque to me, and often meant the fish had health problems.

Just because they look like how they appear in those photos doesn't mean they are sick. They have been in those shapes for decades (though bred by humans into that shape). It's in their gene that they look so round and not necessarily the result of over-feeding. But as to pearl scales and Ryukins, better the shape it is (shorter and rounder), higher the chance at some point in its life it flips upside down (almost always irreversible when it happens) and have short life span. :o

bkkmadness, did you sell gold fish in the UK? Ever seen pearl scales like in the pictures I posted above in Europe?

Thanks again for the links. I'll let you what I'll find at those farms.

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I haven't visited any of those farms, and some may be for export and wholesale only so you might do well to give them a call first.

The flipping upside down is precisely what I mean (swimbladder disorder), often a problem with these fish due to the weird way their bodies have been shaped by man. Apart from some colour variations in some species whichare not harmful to the fish, I like fish to be as natural as possible.

Yep, we sold a lot of pearlscales, Ryukins etc, it was a big shop and we had a coldwater section precisely for pond and coldwater aquarium fish. Many of which were imported from Chinese suppliers.

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The flipping upside down is precisely what I mean (swimbladder disorder), often a problem with these fish due to the weird way their bodies have been shaped by man.  Apart from some colour variations in some species whichare not harmful to the fish, I like fish to be as natural as possible. 

It's very disappointing when it happens. I had this problem with almost all of my best fish. :o One of my Ryukin is no longer swimming and lying at the bottom of the tank for almost a year now after developing this disorder and the other one just died this week 3 weeks after it started to flip over. :D

Do you know any way to reverse this condition? A shop in JJ market told me to isolate the fish and cut feeding for a while but my experience is when it happens it's always irreversible.

And thanks I didn't know there was a name for this disorder.

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The flipping upside down is precisely what I mean (swimbladder disorder), often a problem with these fish due to the weird way their bodies have been shaped by man.  Apart from some colour variations in some species whichare not harmful to the fish, I like fish to be as natural as possible. 

It's very disappointing when it happens. I had this problem with almost all of my best fish. :o One of my Ryukin is no longer swimming and lying at the bottom of the tank for almost a year now after developing this disorder and the other one just died this week 3 weeks after it started to flip over. :D

Do you know any way to reverse this condition? A shop in JJ market told me to isolate the fish and cut feeding for a while but my experience is when it happens it's always irreversible.

And thanks I didn't know there was a name for this disorder.

Swim Bladder disorder is a very common ailment in fancy goldfish, though its found in every type of fish at some time. The Bettas (Thai fighting fish) they breed over here for fighting are prone to it to as well so the links to the sites I have gave you are about bettas, but its all the same disorder and you should look at trying to treat your fish in the same ways.

fish junkies

healthy bettas

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In your case with a fancy goldfish its a probably a case of constipation. They eat far too much food, the stomach swells up,and pushes unaturally against the swim bladder. The swim bladder keeps the fish balanced, so when it's affected, the fish's balance is completely off.

The reason it happens so often to fancy goldfish is not only the fish's odd body shape, but the diet they recieve as well, it's usually not varied enough and consists of just dry foods like flakes and pellets. The problem wih dry food is that it is eaten so fast that it enters the fish's stomach pretty dry still, and then swells up as it gets wetter, causing swim bladder disorder.

There is not any medical treatments that seem to help this problem is my experience. What we always advised was to first starve the fish for a few days, no food at all in this time, and see if the blockage clears itself.

Once feeding again, vary the fish's diet to include live foods and frozen foods as well as pellets and flakes. Keep the amounts of food very low, so there is no future constipation.

People often overfeed their fish, just because they come to the top of your tank when you are near doesn't mean they need food, just keep it at a small amount once a day for a while, even skip a day occasionally, it will not hurt the fish and help keep your tank cleaner and water quality better.

Others treatments people tend to try is the old fashioned salt bath, lowering the water line of the fish tank but nobody knows what really seems to work best. It does just vary on how big the problem is inside the fish, so you need a bit of luck really to help the fish recover, but its worth a try and I know a quite a few of our customers sorted out swim bladder disorder this way.

Let me know if it works out, good luck

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Thanks so much for all that info and tips. True, I've only been feeding on dry pellets once they grow big enough to be able to eat it, and that could well be part of the cause, though some start flipping over even when they were fry (about 1cm big) and thus before I started feeding on dry foods. Salt bath, however, did not seem to work in my past experiences. I think I have to try those tips you mentioned at very early stages of the onset of the symptom. Anyway the only gold fish that I have left with swimbladder disorder now is no longer swimming and at the bottom of the tank for over a year (yet it refuses to die!) and there's probably not any chance I can reverse its condition so I don't think I'm going to do anything about it. :o Interesting how constipation could cause swimbladder disorder.

BTW I have had a lot of Bettas too. They are known to be easy fish to keep in Thailand (supposedly easier than gold fish), however, in almost 50% of the time I could never maintain the health of the fish the way they were when they were at the shops (fin color stars fading, no longer bright and vivid, fins often start to tear) due to stress in the change of environment (water quality), so I gave up on raising Bettas. Always checked ph., removed chlorine, slowly adjust the water temp, etc, but for some fish the stress seemed just too much. :D I didn't, however, had many problems with swimbladder disorder with Bettas though. Often it could be healed easily with salt and chemical bath ("yaa kiaw" from Japan they sell at every shops seem to work well) when Bettas flips upside down.

Thanks again for all the tips.

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A used to have the same problem keeping bettas, and could never keep them in the same conditions as the shop displayed them.

I actually got a top tip one day about using Almond Tree leaves in the water. You'll notice it in many of the betta display tanks, just a brownish leaf lying at the bottom of the tank.

It's meant to help repair frayed fins and give the fish exactly what he needs to stay in top health.

I cant remember all of the benfits of them now, but they certainly have kept the bettas I have had in the past in good condition.

Anyone, for anyone that might be remotely interested, amd I'm sure most of you aren't heres a good link for you.

Indian Almond Leaves

If your problem goldfish is still feeding, then I would try to starve it for a few days to move the blockage and vary the diet, though as you say, at this late stage it might be uncurable. Constant problem with fancy goldfish, if I was you, I'd go back to Bettas, beautiful fish and a wide variety out here compared to the types that you see in the UK. :o

Anybody else here keep Bettas, or do I hold out too much hope for you lot? :D

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Sorry guys, no input from me. I would have suggested Chatuchak as well, but it seems that you have been down this track already.

However, it appears yet again that there is a need for a "pets and Vets"section within the forum, so what about it George?

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maybe the almond tea leaf makes the water more naturally acidic?? dont bettas and other gourami types need acidic i.e. swampy type water?= saw from site that this is indeed the case: swampy or still (rice paddy type water etc) = acidic and soft, we used to use bog peat for the same effect...since our water here is terribly hard and highly chemicalled

actually going to fill my large bowl aquarium that i bought last year... was thinking some of the fancy goldfish: but health problems seem to abound with them.... out of curiousity, i also assumed the all the goldfish types suffer from water that gets too warm, even if there is good circulation... so for those of us in semi tropic areas w/o a.c., how do they deal or do i just need less fish per liter?

and i really like the fantail types but need an 'easy to keep' type and hate the types with 'growths'.... any recommendations

also, i saw in thailand many people had standing fish bowls from ceramics (like bird fountains), outdoors, w/ fish in them.... how do they maintain them w/o aeraters, etc, cats....

and last, the bettas in thailand , are they the same as the ones sold in shops in, lets say, the states (in israel they are small and unimpressive, and sold rather like cheap goldfish, as a quick pet for children, that rapidly dies)

edit: checked out site; ours have long fins and tail, etc, definately different... now i know why the thai were disappointed in them.......

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if I was you, I'd go back to Bettas, beautiful fish and a wide variety out here compared to the types that you see in the UK. :D

Anybody else here keep Bettas, or do I hold out too much hope for you lot? :D

Thanks for that link. Good to see all these photos in the gallery. Makes me want to keep Betta again. :D I had one purple short tail just like the one in the photo gallery.

And yes, always had Indian almond leaves. Never ran out of it when I kept Bettas.

Boy, I had all kinds of Bettas, at one time I must have had close to twenty, my dining table was full of jars I hardly had a space to eat. I had show bettas (half moons), double tails, short tails, crown tails, wild bettas (Smaragdina from Isaan, Imbellis from south, Mahachai from Mahachai near BKK) etc etc.... in colors like turquoise blue, steel blue, royal blue, cambodian red, butterfly, two-tone, copper, melano, opaque, etc etc... I used to like long tail half moons but my preference shifted to short tails later.

The most amazing Betta I had was Smaragdina (wild Betta from Isaan). When the fish is in the best of its health condition, you can see its fins in satin metallic color (as if it's made out of metal), amazingly beautiful. You can't always see that and you have to have the Indian almond leaf in the water to be able to see it. Otherwise with it's snake-like scales there's nothing fancy about this fish, dull color and rather lame looking at most of the times. But every once in a long while you get this shiny, colorful metallic appearance on its scales and fins which was an absolute breathtaking beauty (and it cost me only B80!).

Ever bred Betta bkkmadness? I've never seen the famous "embracing" yet but seen the tendering of hatched fry by the male Betta. Amazing how a little fish like Betta is capable of caring for its fry with so much dedication. And it can go non-stop without a single moment for rest for 3 - 4 days as hatched fry and unhatched eggs keeps falling off from the bubble nest every five seconds and it often keeps going to the point a male dies from exhaustion a week after eggs hatched. Wonder of life in a fish tank (and heartwarming to look at).

BTW I found the only Ryukin left with swimbladder disorder dead on the bottom of the tank just this morning and had it buried in my condo balcony garden. I was slow to notice that as it's been always lying in the bottom of the tank, its guts were eaten by the other fish. :o But amazing it stayed alive like that for more than a year (more than half the fish's life).

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maybe the indian almond leaf makes the water more naturally acidic?? dont bettas and other gourami types need acidic i.e. swampy type water?= saw from site that this is indeed the case: swampy or still (rice paddy type water etc) = acidic and soft, we used to use bog peat for the same effect...since our water here is terribly hard and highly chemicalled

Yes, I've also heard indian almond leaf makes the water acidic, and yes Bettas need to be kept in slightly acidic water (ph. value of around 6 - 6.5), especially the wild ones, I've heard. But believe there's more to the leaf than that as I can't always get the Betta to make foam nest with ph. lowering chemical but indian almond leaf would almost always do that. And yes wild Bettas live in puddy fields and in swampy water. In the south, heard Betta Imbellis can survive the drought waiting for the rain to come in crab holes. Also, I've once met a Thai man who said he caught wild Bettas in Khlong (canal) in BKK on Wtthayu Rd. (mistaken for Khlong behind US embassy in Soi Tonson?) in old days when he was a kid.

actually going to fill my large bowl aquarium that i bought last year... was thinking some of the fancy goldfish: but health problems seem to abound with them.... out of curiousity, i also assumed the all the goldfish types suffer from water that gets too warm, even if there is good circulation... so for those of us in semi tropic areas w/o a.c., how do they deal or do i just need less fish per liter? 

General rule of thumb is one gold fish for every 10L of water, but from my own experience can be more crammed than that, though it can make the fish more prone to sickness. How warm does it get in your fish tank? I actually keep my gold fish in a big 180L tub I place on the floor of my condo balcony where it gets direct sun light in the morning and can get as warm as 33C at times in March - April but that doesn't seem to cause any health problem to the fish. Heard they can bear up to 35C. However, the more water there is, less rapid the change in temperature (which the fish is vulnerable to) and as for my fish environment the shine fades away by noon before the water temperature gets any higher than 33C (could get warmer if less water).

Also heard higher the water temperature, lower the point of saturation oxygen dissolved in the water and when it reached saturation, oxygen in the fish vein (in blood) starts vaporizing which can cause health problems. I have actually had this problem before when the morning shine into the fish tank caused overgrowth of phytoplankton and the water turned so green.

and i really like the fantail types but need an 'easy to keep' type and hate the types with 'growths'.... any recommendations

Avoid species like Ranchu and Oranda that develop head growth. Heard the head growth develops in other gold fish too if you keep feeding them on high-protein foods.

also, i saw in thailand many people had standing fish bowls from ceramics (like bird fountains), outdoors, w/ fish in them.... how do they maintain them w/o aeraters, etc, cats....

I guess you simply have to minimize the number of fish kept in the ceramics.... and you'll need water plants that can provide eco-system in the ceramic as well supplying the oxygen to the fish (and provides a shelter against cats?).

and last, the bettas in thailand , are they the same as the ones sold in shops in, lets say, the states (in israel they are small and unimpressive, and sold rather like cheap goldfish, as a quick pet for children, that rapidly dies)

As you know they are indigenous to Thailand, Laos and Indonesia (and perhaps Malaysia?), but heard some of the best show-quality bettas are bred in farangland. A Thai employee of mine has once imported a breeding pair of show bettas in opaque color (white) from Germany for 30,000 Baht. He made more than B100K selling its offsprings to an importer in Singapore. Actually it's not easy finding good quality Bettas in JJ market and adjacent Sunday Plaza. Heard the best quality Bettas are exported to US, Europe, Japan and Singapore where they can be sold for better money than in Thailand.

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maybe the almond tea leaf makes the water more naturally acidic?? dont bettas and other gourami types need acidic i.e. swampy type water?= saw from site that this is indeed the case: swampy or still (rice paddy type water etc) = acidic and soft, we used to use bog peat for the same effect...since our water here is terribly hard and highly chemicalled
I think as Nordlys said the Indian Almod leaf also has some unique herbal properties that help the fish so it is not there just for lowering the ph of the water. I'm not sure what the herbal properties are, but I doubt you could smoke them. :o
also, i saw in thailand many people had standing fish bowls from ceramics (like bird fountains), outdoors, w/ fish in them.... how do they maintain them w/o aeraters, etc, cats....

Either the fish is used to bad conditions as I have seen in many cases or in most cases the body of water has achieved a natural balance, ie. not too many fish, plenty of water and plants.

and last, the bettas in thailand , are they the same as the ones sold in shops in, lets say, the states (in israel they are small and unimpressive, and sold rather like cheap goldfish, as a quick pet for children, that rapidly dies)

Many in the UK are equally unimpressive in the normal shops. Here you can get loads of different types that would I'm sure sell for a good price in the UK, golds, platinums, reds, blues, yellows, half moons, full moons, short tailed etc.

My last supplier told me he would be getting purple metallic bettas in soon but I have not seen them yet.

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if I was you, I'd go back to Bettas, beautiful fish and a wide variety out here compared to the types that you see in the UK. :D

Anybody else here keep Bettas, or do I hold out too much hope for you lot? :D

Thanks for that link. Good to see all these photos in the gallery. Makes me want to keep Betta again. :D I had one purple short tail just like the one in the photo gallery.

And yes, always had Indian almond leaves. Never ran out of it when I kept Bettas.

Boy, I had all kinds of Bettas, at one time I must have had close to twenty, my dining table was full of jars I hardly had a space to eat. I had show bettas (half moons), double tails, short tails, crown tails, wild bettas (Smaragdina from Isaan, Imbellis from south, Mahachai from Mahachai near BKK) etc etc.... in colors like turquoise blue, steel blue, royal blue, cambodian red, butterfly, two-tone, copper, melano, opaque, etc etc... I used to like long tail half moons but my preference shifted to short tails later.

The most amazing Betta I had was Smaragdina (wild Betta from Isaan). When the fish is in the best of its health condition, you can see its fins in satin metallic color (as if it's made out of metal), amazingly beautiful. You can't always see that and you have to have the Indian almond leaf in the water to be able to see it. Otherwise with it's snake-like scales there's nothing fancy about this fish, dull color and rather lame looking at most of the times. But every once in a long while you get this shiny, colorful metallic appearance on its scales and fins which was an absolute breathtaking beauty (and it cost me only B80!).

Ever bred Betta bkkmadness? I've never seen the famous "embracing" yet but seen the tendering of hatched fry by the male Betta. Amazing how a little fish like Betta is capable of caring for its fry with so much dedication. And it can go non-stop without a single moment for rest for 3 - 4 days as hatched fry and unhatched eggs keeps falling off from the bubble nest every five seconds and it often keeps going to the point a male dies from exhaustion a week after eggs hatched. Wonder of life in a fish tank (and heartwarming to look at).

BTW I found the only Ryukin left with swimbladder disorder dead on the bottom of the tank just this morning and had it buried in my condo balcony garden. I was slow to notice that as it's been always lying in the bottom of the tank, its guts were eaten by the other fish. :D But amazing it stayed alive like that for more than a year (more than half the fish's life).

Your've certainly kept some nice Bettas Nordlys. I am an amateur when it comes to Bettas over here, as many of the types of splendens you have mentioned simply are not availble over there, and you rarely see Imbellis around.

I've bred bettas, some short finned reds, but never saw the embrace. They were in a container out on the balcony in amongst a ton of plants and one day just noticed some fry in there.

I have seen Gouramis breed though, and they use the bubble nest / embracing technique also. Actaully on my last 'fish hunt' when I was up in Tak I noticed some 3 spot gouramis in the streams, its tempting me to go catching some fish and making a natural Asian style aquarium, but for now, time is not on my side so only running one African cichlid tank at the moment.

I've been tempted to keep some other Bettas too, I have seen some Smaragdina, Imbellis, Coccinas and even the most precious of them all, Betta Macrostoma for sale at Chatachuk recently. I'd never even seen Macrostomas before in 15 yrs of fish keeping, but at 2000 baht each they deserve a nice tank set up for them so will give it some time to do it properly one day soon I hope.

George, dont you think its time we had a fishkeeping forum section, we have at least 3 interested forums members here. :o

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George, dont you think its time we had a fishkeeping forum section, we have at least 3 interested forums members here. :D

i reckon we should have a new forum for suggesting forums... :o

totster :D

Ah Totster man, you got me dissapointed, I see you posted on here and thought you was a fellow fish man too. :D

I used to have a 4ft x 2ft tropical tank - pride and joy

totster :D

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Yeah I had a lot of Bettas and quite a few nice ones (and perhaps spent more than B20,000 on them). But was also an amateur myself as I could never figure out why I could not keep many of them in the same health and condition they were when in the shops (I even asked for the entire water in the shop's fish tank or jar to be brought home with the fish) and never been successful breeding them (all fry died).

They have Macrostoma in JJ market?? And for only B2,000??? :o

Back when I was keeping Bettas (3 - 4 years ago) you could only import them yourself if you want and it would normally cost at least B10,000 a piece. When did you see macrostoma at JJ market?

George, dont you think its time we had a fishkeeping forum section, we have at least 3 interested forums members here. :D

Perhaps just a pet forum?

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I used to have a 4ft x 2ft tropical tank - pride and joy
I knew you was one of us Totster. :o

Seriously, I think a lot of people in the UK keep fish, but a lot of people come here and forget the hobby. Mad really when you can go so many good cheap set ups over in LOS.

They have Macrostoma in JJ market?? And for only B2,000??? shock1.gif

Back when I was keeping Bettas (3 - 4 years ago) you could only import them yourself if you want and it would normally cost at least B10,000 a piece. When did you see macrostoma at JJ market?

Only a true fishkeeper can respect the sighting of Betta Macrostomas, I'm glad there's another fish geek on the forum.

I saw the Macrostomas about 6 months ago, and I couldn't get them at the time because had no tabk set up for them and if you're gonna keep macrostomas, gotta do it right, too much of a nice fish to lose regardless of the cost. The guy told me he could get them in in the future for me though.

Its quite a small little shop in JJ actually, but he has Coccinas and other oddballs small fish there that you don't often see in the other shops.

If you really want some, let me know, and I will get the guys phone number next time I am down there so you can check the availabilty for yourself.

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If you really want some, let me know, and I will get the guys phone number next time I am down there so you can check the availabilty for yourself.

Thanks, but I'm not so keen on keeping those rare, imported species. If anything I think they should be in the water of Brunei or Sumatra jungle wherever they came from. But I've never seen either Coccina or Macrostoma for real so let me know if you ever get one. :D Coccina is one of those mouth-breeder types, right? I'm quite surprised those species are now distributed at JJ market. Perhaps someone had a luck breeding those wild bettas in Thailand.

I think I prefer Bettas indigenous to Thailand like Imbellis which is quite strong, easy-to-keep yet beautiful and charming, which I might get next month. :o

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