webfact Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Urgent: Criminal Court issues warrant for Jatuporn's arrest The Criminal Court Thursday issued an arrest warrant against Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Promphan after he did not turn up for the first hearing in the trial of defamation lawsuit filed against him by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva. Jatuporn sent his lawyer to inform the court that he wanted the first hearing to be postponed because he was awaiting the Supreme Court president's decision about his request for the change of the panel of judges in the case. The court ruled that Jatuporn intended to avoid the trial so the court revoked his bail and issued an arrest warrant against him. The court ordered police to take Jatuporn to court for the next hearing on December 14. -- The Nation 2010-12-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 good news, there is obviously more than one way to skin a cat............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 Criminal Court revokes bail, issue arrest warrant for Red Shirt leader Jatuporn Criminal Court revokes bail, issue arrest warrant for Red Shirt leader Jatuporn for failing to appear at court in defamation case filed by PM against him -- TNA 2010-12-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest Warrant Issued for Jatuporn Prompan The Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for red shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan. Jatuporn failed to make an appearance at the court in a defamation suit against him with Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva as the plaintiff. Latest reports indicate that Jatuporn is on his way to the Criminal Court. -- Tan Network 2010-12-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 Red shirt Jatuporn has arrived at Criminal Court after court revoked bail,issued arrest warrant for failing to appear at court /via@tukky_nt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Does that mean that they will need to re-apply for bail after he has attended the court hearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 He, and the Reds, were offered a disolution of Parliment in November 2011 with new elections to be held. If the offer was legitimate, in writing, with a public signing of the agreement, I thought that would have been a fair deal at the time. Especially given the "Thai face" that was on show by both sides. The Prime Minister would have held power for another 6 months and Jutuporn would have acheived his goal by ousting the Government with new elections to be held, all be it, at a later date. In any case, it would have taken months, if not years, under military control, to organise another election. The irony is, he would probably be in power now, with some help from Mr. T who would have splashed some more cash around if he/they took the deal. When the next election is eventually held, and Mr. T splashes his cash again, the Reds will have the numbers again and the country will go back to the Yellows protesting. This will continue until the real issues that divide this country are finally addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 A bench warrant for Failure to appear! .... fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 He, and the Reds, were offered a disolution of Parliment in November 2011 with new elections to be held. If the offer was legitimate, in writing, with a public signing of the agreement, I thought that would have been a fair deal at the time. Especially given the "Thai face" that was on show by both sides. The Prime Minister would have held power for another 6 months and Jutuporn would have acheived his goal by ousting the Government with new elections to be held, all be it, at a later date. In any case, it would have taken months, if not years, under military control, to organise another election. The irony is, he would probably be in power now, with some help from Mr. T who would have splashed some more cash around if he/they took the deal. When the next election is eventually held, and Mr. T splashes his cash again, the Reds will have the numbers again and the country will go back to the Yellows protesting. This will continue until the real issues that divide this country are finally addressed. that's never gonna happen, Abhisit and Korn will win with a landslide next time around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 He, and the Reds, were offered a disolution of Parliment in November 2011 with new elections to be held. If the offer was legitimate, in writing, with a public signing of the agreement, I thought that would have been a fair deal at the time. Especially given the "Thai face" that was on show by both sides. The Prime Minister would have held power for another 6 months and Jutuporn would have acheived his goal by ousting the Government with new elections to be held, all be it, at a later date. In any case, it would have taken months, if not years, under military control, to organise another election. The irony is, he would probably be in power now, with some help from Mr. T who would have splashed some more cash around if he/they took the deal. When the next election is eventually held, and Mr. T splashes his cash again, the Reds will have the numbers again and the country will go back to the Yellows protesting. This will continue until the real issues that divide this country are finally addressed. You might want to go back to look at the 2007 election results, address the fact that Newin etc have dropped out of the PPP/PTP/TRT alliance etc. Then remember that after the arson etc that reds have lost some significant support from anyone that considers themselves moderates AND that their new "leader", Thida, Weng's wife isn't the most well liked woman due to her communist links. The next elections look like something similar to what we have now. A Dem led coalition government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 The 258 million PTI case has just been tossed out of court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) He, and the Reds, were offered a disolution of Parliment in November 2011 with new elections to be held. If the offer was legitimate, in writing, with a public signing of the agreement, I thought that would have been a fair deal at the time. Especially given the "Thai face" that was on show by both sides. The Prime Minister would have held power for another 6 months and Jutuporn would have acheived his goal by ousting the Government with new elections to be held, all be it, at a later date. In any case, it would have taken months, if not years, under military control, to organise another election. The irony is, he would probably be in power now, with some help from Mr. T who would have splashed some more cash around if he/they took the deal. When the next election is eventually held, and Mr. T splashes his cash again, the Reds will have the numbers again and the country will go back to the Yellows protesting. This will continue until the real issues that divide this country are finally addressed. that's never gonna happen, Abhisit and Korn will win with a landslide next time around Like they did in two other elections???????? People in the north were being paid money to vote for Mr. T. People were being paid to protest in Bangkok. They will be paid to vote again at the next election. Edited December 9, 2010 by NamKangMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamritT Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Good. Must sure he die in jail before his release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 He, and the Reds, were offered a disolution of Parliment in November 2011 with new elections to be held. If the offer was legitimate, in writing, with a public signing of the agreement, I thought that would have been a fair deal at the time. Especially given the "Thai face" that was on show by both sides. The Prime Minister would have held power for another 6 months and Jutuporn would have acheived his goal by ousting the Government with new elections to be held, all be it, at a later date. In any case, it would have taken months, if not years, under military control, to organise another election. The irony is, he would probably be in power now, with some help from Mr. T who would have splashed some more cash around if he/they took the deal. When the next election is eventually held, and Mr. T splashes his cash again, the Reds will have the numbers again and the country will go back to the Yellows protesting. This will continue until the real issues that divide this country are finally addressed. You might want to go back to look at the 2007 election results, address the fact that Newin etc have dropped out of the PPP/PTP/TRT alliance etc. Then remember that after the arson etc that reds have lost some significant support from anyone that considers themselves moderates AND that their new "leader", Thida, Weng's wife isn't the most well liked woman due to her communist links. The next elections look like something similar to what we have now. A Dem led coalition government. See post above. People in the north being paid 200 baht to turn up and vote. People being paid 500 baht a day to protest in Bangkok. (If you look at the footage, most were women. Men stayed up north to work the farm and the women went to Bangkok and collected the 500 baht) Average daily wage in Thailand is 250 - 300 baht a day. REMEBER: that's the average wage. What do you think most from the north will do when offered 200 baht just to "tick a box?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamritT Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 So, it is best to increase the daily wage to 2,000 to stop the vote buying problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? ohh these lovely defamation lawsuits. The PM can be proud how he turns the law into a useful tool to deal with his enemies. Which one of the many defamation lawsuits Abhisit filed against Jatuporn was it exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamritT Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? No. Arrest for being a bad wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTumTiger Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Amazing day for the Democrats - 1) Thaksin chickens out of going to the US 2) Jatuporn arrested and going to jail (finally) 3) 2nd Case thrown out for procedural errors. Democrats FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 He, and the Reds, were offered a disolution of Parliment in November 2011 with new elections to be held. If the offer was legitimate, in writing, with a public signing of the agreement, I thought that would have been a fair deal at the time. Especially given the "Thai face" that was on show by both sides. The Prime Minister would have held power for another 6 months and Jutuporn would have acheived his goal by ousting the Government with new elections to be held, all be it, at a later date. In any case, it would have taken months, if not years, under military control, to organise another election. The irony is, he would probably be in power now, with some help from Mr. T who would have splashed some more cash around if he/they took the deal. When the next election is eventually held, and Mr. T splashes his cash again, the Reds will have the numbers again and the country will go back to the Yellows protesting. This will continue until the real issues that divide this country are finally addressed. You might want to go back to look at the 2007 election results, address the fact that Newin etc have dropped out of the PPP/PTP/TRT alliance etc. Then remember that after the arson etc that reds have lost some significant support from anyone that considers themselves moderates AND that their new "leader", Thida, Weng's wife isn't the most well liked woman due to her communist links. The next elections look like something similar to what we have now. A Dem led coalition government. See post above. People in the north being paid 200 baht to turn up and vote. People being paid 500 baht a day to protest in Bangkok. (If you look at the footage, most were women. Men stayed up north to work the farm and the women went to Bangkok and collected the 500 baht) Average daily wage in Thailand is 250 - 300 baht a day. REMEBER: that's the average wage. What do you think most from the north will do when offered 200 baht just to "tick a box?" Again ---- look at 2007. Then remember that defections of Buriram etc will affect these numbers (BJT party). It doesn't ALL break down to illegal vote buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTumTiger Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Today's court ruling assures that Abhisit will be PM minister until 2015. imo Which is the best thing for Thailand, imo. Certainly not perfect - but a damned sight better than the a$$hats on the other side of the aisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? ohh these lovely defamation lawsuits. The PM can be proud how he turns the law into a useful tool to deal with his enemies. Which one of the many defamation lawsuits Abhisit filed against Jatuporn was it exactly? Your point is? Is OK to skip hearings because you don't like the judges. I really don't know a lot about the judges but I take it that these judges are not in the pay of Thaksin. Does it really mater which one it is still breaking the law. Jatuprn is not above the law he is on Thaksins pay roll. His boss is the one who thinks he is above the law. He should be found guilty on all charges against him and given the strictest penalties. That might be hard on him but it would send the message that Thaksin can not protect you. And as has been shown will not. Do you disagree with that message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? ohh these lovely defamation lawsuits. The PM can be proud how he turns the law into a useful tool to deal with his enemies. Which one of the many defamation lawsuits Abhisit filed against Jatuporn was it exactly? Your point is? Is OK to skip hearings because you don't like the judges. I really don't know a lot about the judges but I take it that these judges are not in the pay of Thaksin. Does it really mater which one it is still breaking the law. Jatuprn is not above the law he is on Thaksins pay roll. His boss is the one who thinks he is above the law. He should be found guilty on all charges against him and given the strictest penalties. That might be hard on him but it would send the message that Thaksin can not protect you. And as has been shown will not. Do you disagree with that message? I think our friend Serge would like to see these battles never enter the legal realm (where the truth is the issue) and would prefer them to be fought on a public stage. Thankfully, rule of law is being reestablished in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pi Sek Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 So 2 hours ago he showed up at court. Is he is in the nick yet? He's not going to get re-bailed is he? Jatuporn is the biggest obstacle for reconciliation in this country, because of his bullish refusal to tell the truth - he's even worse than Suthep. I'm very glad they are trying to lock him up and I'm even gladder they are doing it in the correct way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 He, and the Reds, were offered a disolution of Parliment in November 2011 with new elections to be held. If the offer was legitimate, in writing, with a public signing of the agreement, I thought that would have been a fair deal at the time. Especially given the "Thai face" that was on show by both sides. The Prime Minister would have held power for another 6 months and Jutuporn would have acheived his goal by ousting the Government with new elections to be held, all be it, at a later date. In any case, it would have taken months, if not years, under military control, to organise another election. The irony is, he would probably be in power now, with some help from Mr. T who would have splashed some more cash around if he/they took the deal. When the next election is eventually held, and Mr. T splashes his cash again, the Reds will have the numbers again and the country will go back to the Yellows protesting. This will continue until the real issues that divide this country are finally addressed. that's never gonna happen, Abhisit and Korn will win with a landslide next time around Like they did in two other elections???????? People in the north were being paid money to vote for Mr. T. People were being paid to protest in Bangkok. They will be paid to vote again at the next election. i said ''next time around'' iceman Thailand's growing up slowly politically i believe many will dare to vote with their social consience next time and not just take the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Like they did in two other elections???????? People in the north were being paid money to vote for Mr. T. People were being paid to protest in Bangkok. They will be paid to vote again at the next election. The difference now is the smaller parties. The PPP didn't WIN the 2007 election. They were just able to get the smaller parties to support them. Even if the PTP get the same number of seats (which is unlikely given the number of PPP/PTP MPs that have defected since the last election) they would STILL need to get the support of the smaller parties. They don't have their support now. How do they get it for the next election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? ohh these lovely defamation lawsuits. The PM can be proud how he turns the law into a useful tool to deal with his enemies. Which one of the many defamation lawsuits Abhisit filed against Jatuporn was it exactly? No. Just his bail revoked for missing the hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? ohh these lovely defamation lawsuits. The PM can be proud how he turns the law into a useful tool to deal with his enemies. Which one of the many defamation lawsuits Abhisit filed against Jatuporn was it exactly? No. Just his bail revoked for missing the hearing. Well, all the news report using the words "arrest warrant". Guess they failed to hire you as the editor who can put the records straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? ohh these lovely defamation lawsuits. The PM can be proud how he turns the law into a useful tool to deal with his enemies. Which one of the many defamation lawsuits Abhisit filed against Jatuporn was it exactly? Amazing really amazing..not a single yellow shirt protester being issued a arrest warrant....some are the very same ministers in the democrat government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? ohh these lovely defamation lawsuits. The PM can be proud how he turns the law into a useful tool to deal with his enemies. Which one of the many defamation lawsuits Abhisit filed against Jatuporn was it exactly? No. Just his bail revoked for missing the hearing. Well, all the news report using the words "arrest warrant". Guess they failed to hire you as the editor who can put the records straight. An arrest warrant wasn't issued for missing the hearing. His bail was revoked for missing the hearing. Given that his bail has been revoked, he needs to be arrested again. Or do you think they revoke his bail and he's allowed to stay free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Arrest warrant for missing the hearing??? ohh these lovely defamation lawsuits. The PM can be proud how he turns the law into a useful tool to deal with his enemies. Which one of the many defamation lawsuits Abhisit filed against Jatuporn was it exactly? No. Just his bail revoked for missing the hearing. Well, all the news report using the words "arrest warrant". Guess they failed to hire you as the editor who can put the records straight. In other countries it would be described as a "bench warrant" and is 100% in the purview of the court when a defendant fails to appear. Translation issues arise when you try to use exact language from one system into another but in this case it seems to be clearly a warrant. The good thing is that rule of law is returning to Thailand and due process is being followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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