Rinrada Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 When I showed this to my lot the only question was ... When does it open? :huh: At least according to the map it appears to be just before the highway on the way to San KP and Mae-On....so at least its a straight line. Diff topic but just heard that we have a new baby calf born this morning so wee Jimmi ..(3 weeks old ) has a sister ...wee Jenni..see you etc........Moooooooooooo Might start renting out the Bull...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsjourney Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 We had a hotel bubble (casino hopes) a few years ago which seems to have ended with several changing hands, then during the last few years we have had the supermarket bubble with one built every 6 months until Carrefour decided to hand over to Big C, and now we have the shopping mall bubble. I say bring it on, it's great for consumers although probably not my cashflow. I shall find the new ones easier to drive to, so long as they are also easier to park at, but whether they make money in the long run is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 In short where are they going to get a customer base large enough to support a Mall with out a little support from the non driving residents and in the tourist season tourist's. I know for a fact that the tourist's go to the airport mall. I meet many of them on the free shuttle. From the people who live out of town. Have you tried to drive near Airport plaza or KSK around peak shopping times? Who cares about tourist arriving by shuttlebus? They'll get their customers from the majority of residents who visit malls, BY CAR. Location on east side of city is great for me. My only concern is the outdoor stage for entertainment. 6.7km straight line across the rice fields, I think the neighbourhood has taken a downturn...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 In short where are they going to get a customer base large enough to support a Mall with out a little support from the non driving residents and in the tourist season tourist's. I know for a fact that the tourist's go to the airport mall. I meet many of them on the free shuttle. From the people who live out of town. Have you tried to drive near Airport plaza or KSK around peak shopping times? Who cares about tourist arriving by shuttlebus? They'll get their customers from the majority of residents who visit malls, BY CAR. Location on east side of city is great for me. My only concern is the outdoor stage for entertainment. 6.7km straight line across the rice fields, I think the neighbourhood has taken a downturn...... Well that is what I tried to say is there enough people in the outlying areas to support it. I really don't give two figs what any one tells me. I frequent the air port Mall and prior to November it was not all that busy. I am not trying to rain on your parade but I am sure tourist's get to the airport mall by other means than a free shuttle. I know that and you know it and for that matter all the posters here know it. The number is what no one knows. I am not that sure of my geography. But if it is on the east side out of town how do you figure people from the west side will find it easier than the aairport or for that matter the south side. Yes for the North and East it will work well. Does any one even know the square footage compared to the airport or KSG. All I am doing is trying to be reasonable yes it is convenient for some people but is there enough of them. Perhaps the parking will be adequate but for how long? Sounds like good eating but it takes more than restarants to make it. In the other two big malls they have a large department store and fairly good grocery store for Farongs. Maybe I was being nice to the one in KSG. How many movie theaters will it have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I find it hard to believe that people will drive all over the country side to shop when they can do it in one place.In short where are they going to get a customer base large enough to support a Mall with out a little support from the non driving residents and in the tourist season tourist's. The new mall is on a major thruway and you'll probably find that the kind of people going there will be en-route to the plaza anyway (including me and thousands of others out that way), so it'll save them going all the way there and getting bogged down. AP is always busy, it's a huge place and even when it looks a little empty in the week, there will literally be oodles in there. Customer base is primarily drivers... as a walk-in, guess you never get to see the car park and motorbike parks, which are generally always busy in the afternoon, while weekends are chockablock. At the end of the day, the owners are probably not too concerned with walk-ins, they prefer those who have the means to buy loads and pack the car full of goodies. From a Thai perspective, if you haven't got wheels, you haven't got any money to blow anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansai Sam Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 The Promenada is scheduled to open April 2012 and it's goal is to provide new and unique tenants not already available in Chiang Mai. Alot of effort is being made to draw business from Bangkok so we don't have to fly there to buy things we need or want. The lifestyle setting is much more in line with what I think a shopping center in Chiang Mai should be and the location provides easy access and plenty of parking and room for expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippydedodah Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 and to quote wikipedia: Population (2008) - City148,477 - Density3,687/km2 (9,549.3/sq mi) - Metro960,906 - Metro density315.42/km2 (816.9/sq mi) 1M population in Chiang Mai City??? You been reading to much propaganda. Everything else I agree. It depends where you stop counting. 'City' may refer to Muang district, which is likely FAR under 1 million. (300K perhaps?) But then there's a lot of people if you include the metropolitan area which may (depending on how you choose to count) include (parts of) surrounding districts. From ThaiVisa Weather. Out Leader only tells the truth.. City is 200952 Weather and city info about Chiang Mai, Chiang Mai Info about Chiang Mai Category: Regional capital Region: Chiang Mai Time Zone: Asia/Bangkok GMT+7 Population: 200952 Geonames-ID: 1153671 See it on: Map Latitude: 18°47′25″N Longitude: 98°58′54″E Decimal coordinates: 18.7903 98.9817 Altitude: 312 m. What do you want to do now? Book a hotel room in Chiang Mai Rent a car in Chiang Mai Dating someone in Chiang Mai Send flowers to someone in Chiang Mai Read or post a classified ad in Chiang Mai Chiang Mai forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheGuava Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 For Metro I think they inlcude Lamphun as well. Which, in the context of this topic, would be reasonable; if you live in Lamphun it's not unlikely to go shop at Airport Plaza on the weekend, or indeed Promenada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 The Promenada is scheduled to open April 2012. It will be a lifestyle mall with a lake and trees like a park. It will feature an outdoor stage for entertainment and the plan is to maintain a high standard. Major Cineplex and Rimping are in the works as well as Wine Connection and a number of other upscale tenants. None of the buildings will be more than three stories. The location is great. Building in the city would not be a good idea. There are already plans to expand the parking if needed which would be hard to do in the city. There will be trams to take customers from the parking area to the main buildings. I think it will be a great addition. The mall at Nimmanheiman and Huey Khaew has been stopped at least for now but Central has resumed construction on their new center on the super highway. I had a lot of problems getting any details. Thank you for your post. Sounds like it is going to be a a bit pricey. The following is what i found. Dutch property conglomerate, the ECC Group, has officially announced the launch of a new landmark shopping and entertainment destination in Northern Thailand: "Promenada Chiang Mai" with Bt3.1 billion in investment. Expected to open in the second half of 2011, Promenada Chiang Mai will be located along Ban Sahakorn Road. It has 75,000 sqm of retail and entertainment space, Promenada Chiang Mai will offer residents and tourists alike an innovative mix of international and local brands in fashion, food and beverage, as well as leisure and entertainment. Not sure of how much that will leave over for parking what with a park and all. Hard to say but they obviously figure parking will not be that convenient so they are putting in trams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaideeguy Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 the San Kapheng road will need at least a couple of extra lanes to acomodate the additional traffic. It's already congested and I hate to imagine the bottleneck if they don't think ahead [for a change]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 sansa sam re ... new center (mush like Central World I think) caddy corner to the municipal court building on the Super Highway i wodered what this huge building site opposite arcade bus station was going to be in october ... now i know : ) dave2 ps ... had to be 2 pics coz its so wide pps ... the highest red roof on the left is the court building It is not Central so much for the rumors. Its a condo and strip mall complex. http://www.star-avenue.com/project2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 getlost. re ... Its a condo and strip mall complex. im assuming its the orange number 2 in the location and landmark map but i dont speak or read thai so im not sure appologies if i sent anyone up the wrong creek without a paddle : ( dave2 pic of the day ... cute dog : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 getlost. re ... Its a condo and strip mall complex. im assuming its the orange number 2 in the location and landmark map but i dont speak or read thai so im not sure appologies if i sent anyone up the wrong creek without a paddle : ( dave2 pic of the day ... cute dog : ) Yes it is number 2 on their site. They also have a very large billboard on the highway advertising it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 1M population in Chiang Mai City??? You been reading to much propaganda. Everything else I agree. It depends where you stop counting. 'City' may refer to Muang district, which is likely FAR under 1 million. (300K perhaps?) But then there's a lot of people if you include the metropolitan area which may (depending on how you choose to count) include (parts of) surrounding districts. I'm with Winnie on this, I'd include out as far as Mae-Rim & Mae-Jo, Doi-Saket & San-Kampaeng, Lampun & Hang-Dong as being part of Greater-Chiang-Mai. I'd also add that 7 (or more ?) universities gives us a large floating-population too ! Chiang-Mai, the City that feels like a Town ! ... except in the rush-hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaShadow Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 (edited) 1M population in Chiang Mai City??? You been reading to much propaganda. Everything else I agree. It depends where you stop counting. 'City' may refer to Muang district, which is likely FAR under 1 million. (300K perhaps?) But then there's a lot of people if you include the metropolitan area which may (depending on how you choose to count) include (parts of) surrounding districts. Pretty sure its over a million, with all the out of province Thais and foreigners: http://en.wikipedia....tropolitan_Area Mueang Chiang Mai 240,466 Mueang Lamphun, 142,881 San Sai 112,921 Mae Rim 85,968 San Kam Phaeng 76,424 Saraphi 76,138 Hang Dong 76,059 San Pa Tong 75,907 Doi Saket 66,101 Ban Thi, Lamphun Province 17,614 Total 970,479 Edited January 29, 2011 by PlaShadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Thai Visa would never fib or print an un truth. From their weather page. Weather and city info about Chiang Mai, Chiang Mai Info about Chiang Mai Category: Regional capital Region: Chiang Mai Time Zone: Asia/Bangkok GMT+7 Population: 200952 Geonames-ID: 1153671 See it on: Map Latitude: 18°47′25″N Longitude: 98°58′54″E Decimal coordinates: 18.7903 98.9817 Altitude: 312 m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paagai Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Pagaii...The center I mentioned on Nimmanheiman and Huey Khaew is on land owned by Oishi Company and it is on hold...the one you mention appears to be very close to that one. I think the location you are talking about is at "A" on the attached? Next to Kad Rinkham? The location I'm talking about is at "B" and the new conference centre at "C". The site may be even bigger if they demolish a couple of very run down condos that are in one corner. I know there are other "New Mall" threads running but since my interest is specific to this one thought I'd give it a bump. So above I mentioned the run down condos on this site........ Guess what they've just started demolishing Anyone heard anymore about plans for this site? Last I heard was new Mall, but then it all went quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I think it should be a mall. That Rincome intersection is far too quiet and low in traffic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paagai Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think it should be a mall. That Rincome intersection is far too quiet and low in traffic. Absolutely! Since there's so little traffic, they'll probably build right to the edge of the street, then rent out the inside lanes of Huay Kaew and Nimmanheminda to food carts Actually, I heard the opposite: work is allegedly due to start soon widening the western side of the superhighway from Rincome. They've already closed down the small restaurants that were near the intersection in preparation. However, the site I was referring to is on the Santitham side, across from the Jet Yod intersection, not Rincome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think it should be a mall. That Rincome intersection is far too quiet and low in traffic. Absolutely! Since there's so little traffic, they'll probably build right to the edge of the street, then rent out the inside lanes of Huay Kaew and Nimmanheminda to food carts Actually, I heard the opposite: work is allegedly due to start soon widening the western side of the superhighway from Rincome. They've already closed down the small restaurants that were near the intersection in preparation. However, the site I was referring to is on the Santitham side, across from the Jet Yod intersection, not Rincome. Oh I see. But something ginormous is also going up on the North-West corner of the Rincome intersection. Anyone know what that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paagai Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) I think it should be a mall. That Rincome intersection is far too quiet and low in traffic. Absolutely! Since there's so little traffic, they'll probably build right to the edge of the street, then rent out the inside lanes of Huay Kaew and Nimmanheminda to food carts Actually, I heard the opposite: work is allegedly due to start soon widening the western side of the superhighway from Rincome. They've already closed down the small restaurants that were near the intersection in preparation. However, the site I was referring to is on the Santitham side, across from the Jet Yod intersection, not Rincome. Oh I see. But something ginormous is also going up on the North-West corner of the Rincome intersection. Anyone know what that is? Yep! SFX Cinema and S One Mall; opening next year Plenty more graphics of other developments too on this post on postjung Edited May 9, 2012 by Paagai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franco767 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I think it should be a mall. That Rincome intersection is far too quiet and low in traffic. Absolutely! Since there's so little traffic, they'll probably build right to the edge of the street, then rent out the inside lanes of Huay Kaew and Nimmanheminda to food carts Actually, I heard the opposite: work is allegedly due to start soon widening the western side of the superhighway from Rincome. They've already closed down the small restaurants that were near the intersection in preparation. However, the site I was referring to is on the Santitham side, across from the Jet Yod intersection, not Rincome. Oh I see. But something ginormous is also going up on the North-West corner of the Rincome intersection. Anyone know what that is? Yep! SFX Cinema and S One Mall; opening next year Plenty more graphics of other developments too on this post on postjung NICE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 There are at least 3 new malls plus probably 3 smaller community malls planned for Chiang Mai. Robinsons have acquired 40 rai next to the Night Safari. I think the mall referred to above near Kad Suan is one of the new breed of community malls, as is the new one called Chill Park near Big C on the Hang Dong Road. I am interested in the fate of the Central Mall in Kad Suan K because it will come under serious threat, I think, from all this development. It looks grubby and dated and is seriously in need of a massive facelift. Having said that it has a wonderful (under publicised) theatre upstairs with very good acoustics. But the place, as a whole, is drab and dreary. Any views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 This is an interesting summary of all the new malls.. .and it doesn't even list S-one! http://www.chiangmaicitynews.com/news.php?id=382 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Too fast. Too much. Are these going to be the legacy of the next South East Asian financial crash? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) There are at least 3 new malls plus probably 3 smaller community malls planned for Chiang Mai. Robinsons have acquired 40 rai next to the Night Safari. I think the mall referred to above near Kad Suan is one of the new breed of community malls, as is the new one called Chill Park near Big C on the Hang Dong Road. I am interested in the fate of the Central Mall in Kad Suan K because it will come under serious threat, I think, from all this development. It looks grubby and dated and is seriously in need of a massive facelift. Having said that it has a wonderful (under publicised) theatre upstairs with very good acoustics. But the place, as a whole, is drab and dreary. Any views? You said it all "But the place, as a whole, is drab and dreary. Any views?" I think any views should read any hope. Edited May 30, 2012 by Tywais Removed links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaptainrob Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 There are at least 3 new malls plus probably 3 smaller community malls planned for Chiang Mai. Robinsons have acquired 40 rai next to the Night Safari. I think the mall referred to above near Kad Suan is one of the new breed of community malls, as is the new one called Chill Park near Big C on the Hang Dong Road. I am interested in the fate of the Central Mall in Kad Suan K because it will come under serious threat, I think, from all this development. It looks grubby and dated and is seriously in need of a massive facelift. Having said that it has a wonderful (under publicised) theatre upstairs with very good acoustics. But the place, as a whole, is drab and dreary. Any views? You said it all "But the place, as a whole, is drab and dreary. Any views?" I think any views should read any hope. Eye-candy makes up for drab interior After 3 months here I still get lost in KSK ... but found a Post Office by mistake! KSK is a massive property, with attached Hotel. Owners must be getting a fantastic ROI so I think it will be around for a while yet. Interesting to note Star Avenue is nearing completion and a Rimping Supermarket is going in there as well as Promenada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 This is an interesting summary of all the new malls.. .and it doesn't even list S-one! http://www.chiangmai...news.php?id=382 I find the whole thing very sad. I mean come on, how many B2S, Wawee, Chi Chang and Sports World do they need? Is it worth creating more traffic, pollution, etc. in an environment already bursting at the seams? I mean 1 or 2 B2S shops in a city this size is plenty! There are dozens of other stationers everywhere. Another Wawee?? I can think of at least 3 from the same chain that are practically empty all day long. Does anyone ever actually buy anything in Chi Chang or Sports World? I was shopping for 3 items in Sports World last week; a backpack, some fitness pants for the g/f, and a swimming suit for me. The prices were stupid. We walked over to Central's sport division they call "Super Sports" and got the exact same fitness pants selling at Sports World for 1500 THB for 400 THB on promotion; the exact same swimming suit although in a different color selling for 1450 THB at Sports World for 895 at Super Sports. We went to the Night Bazaar last night and got a MUCH nicer backpack than the one at Sports World (790 THB) for 300 THB! The Star Avenue chain is destined to fail in my opinion. 1 or 2 of them have been completed for about a year now and they appear to be about 10-20% occupied. There is another development near me that is advertised as a "business park". It was completed 2 years ago. Out of 10 units, only 3 are occupied. The other 7 have been vacant since it was completed. They are asking 4.5 million to buy a unit (reduced from 6 million) or 25,000 THB per month rent. Like naboo said "Too fast. Too much. Are these going to be the legacy of the next South East Asian financial crash?" It is highly possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el jefe Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 This is an interesting summary of all the new malls.. .and it doesn't even list S-one! http://www.chiangmai...news.php?id=382 I find the whole thing very sad. I mean come on, how many B2S, Wawee, Chi Chang and Sports World do they need? Is it worth creating more traffic, pollution, etc. in an environment already bursting at the seams? I mean 1 or 2 B2S shops in a city this size is plenty! There are dozens of other stationers everywhere. Another Wawee?? I can think of at least 3 from the same chain that are practically empty all day long. Does anyone ever actually buy anything in Chi Chang or Sports World? I was shopping for 3 items in Sports World last week; a backpack, some fitness pants for the g/f, and a swimming suit for me. The prices were stupid. We walked over to Central's sport division they call "Super Sports" and got the exact same fitness pants selling at Sports World for 1500 THB for 400 THB on promotion; the exact same swimming suit although in a different color selling for 1450 THB at Sports World for 895 at Super Sports. We went to the Night Bazaar last night and got a MUCH nicer backpack than the one at Sports World (790 THB) for 300 THB! The Star Avenue chain is destined to fail in my opinion. 1 or 2 of them have been completed for about a year now and they appear to be about 10-20% occupied. There is another development near me that is advertised as a "business park". It was completed 2 years ago. Out of 10 units, only 3 are occupied. The other 7 have been vacant since it was completed. They are asking 4.5 million to buy a unit (reduced from 6 million) or 25,000 THB per month rent. Like naboo said "Too fast. Too much. Are these going to be the legacy of the next South East Asian financial crash?" It is highly possible. You know why they can build so many malls with the same stores? Free enterprise. If the developer can find the land at a price he thinks is fair, he can build. If a retailer thinks that the lease terms are such that he can turn a profit, he'll rent. I don't like all the development either and hate the traffic it brings, but the alternative is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 This is an interesting summary of all the new malls.. .and it doesn't even list S-one! http://www.chiangmai...news.php?id=382 I find the whole thing very sad. I mean come on, how many B2S, Wawee, Chi Chang and Sports World do they need? Is it worth creating more traffic, pollution, etc. in an environment already bursting at the seams? I mean 1 or 2 B2S shops in a city this size is plenty! There are dozens of other stationers everywhere. Another Wawee?? I can think of at least 3 from the same chain that are practically empty all day long. Does anyone ever actually buy anything in Chi Chang or Sports World? I was shopping for 3 items in Sports World last week; a backpack, some fitness pants for the g/f, and a swimming suit for me. The prices were stupid. We walked over to Central's sport division they call "Super Sports" and got the exact same fitness pants selling at Sports World for 1500 THB for 400 THB on promotion; the exact same swimming suit although in a different color selling for 1450 THB at Sports World for 895 at Super Sports. We went to the Night Bazaar last night and got a MUCH nicer backpack than the one at Sports World (790 THB) for 300 THB! The Star Avenue chain is destined to fail in my opinion. 1 or 2 of them have been completed for about a year now and they appear to be about 10-20% occupied. There is another development near me that is advertised as a "business park". It was completed 2 years ago. Out of 10 units, only 3 are occupied. The other 7 have been vacant since it was completed. They are asking 4.5 million to buy a unit (reduced from 6 million) or 25,000 THB per month rent. Like naboo said "Too fast. Too much. Are these going to be the legacy of the next South East Asian financial crash?" It is highly possible. You know why they can build so many malls with the same stores? Free enterprise. If the developer can find the land at a price he thinks is fair, he can build. If a retailer thinks that the lease terms are such that he can turn a profit, he'll rent. I don't like all the development either and hate the traffic it brings, but the alternative is worse. I know...you are right. It is just saddening that such a nice mountain community is being developed to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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