Phuket Gang Rape Victim Now Safe

[george]

Rapists called mum during 2 hour attack on woman - Thailand

PATONG, PHUKET: -- British Embassy officials in Thailand have assisted in the ‘escape’ from Thailand of a 23-yr-old woman from Manchester who was reportedly involved in a horrific gang-rape on the resort island of Phuket.

The woman claimed she was gang raped for two hours by a group of Swedes and Thais in a hotel room in Patong Beach, Phuket, after agreeing to go back for a party there.

According to a friend: “She said she went back to the room with a Swede and once inside discovered there were five others there, including three Thais.

“A hood of some sort was placed over her head. She was raped and then afterwards somehow one of them got on the her phone to her mother. There was laughter as one of the gang members told her mother that unless she sent money, her daughter would be raped again.”

The friend added: “Afterwards she went to find the Embassy official, Honorary Consul Martin Carpenter. I don’t think she could even remember her attackers and I guess she was drunk.”

The woman, who claims to have been attacked in Patong Beach, was got back to England within 48 hours despite [more ...]

-- Andrew Drummond.com 2011-01-14

Link to Foreign Office resources for victims of rape overseas:

http://www.fco.gov.uk/resources/en/pdf/2855621/rape-and-sexual-assault-overseas

Edited January 14, 2011 by Crossy
fixed the link

[Moonrakers]

I ain't buying it!

[Chunky1]

I ain't buying it!

You must have serious issues with women if that is your initial reaction to this article

Edited January 13, 2011 by Chunky1

[siampolee]

With all due respect to the victim of the crime one is led to wonder what actually possessed her to go back to a hotel room with a group of four men.

I don’t think she could even remember her attackers and I guess she was drunk.”

A case of , ''beer in wits out?''

Along with the fact that the scribe concerned is one Andrew Drummond, who to my mind and many others minds too, does have a somewhat creative and selective mind when reporting on matters from Thailand.

[katasyd]

With all due respect to the victim of the crime one is led to wonder what actually possessed her to go back to a hotel room with a group of four men.

I don't think she could even remember her attackers and I guess she was drunk."

I think you should learn to read.

According to a friend: “She said she went back to the room with a Swede and once inside discovered there were five others there, including three Thais.

[beammeup]

In a case of rape the benefit of doubt should go to the victim.

[siampolee]

Katasyd.

I can read rather well in fact.

I did read the article and that was the conclusion I came to.

I, in the past was involved in the legal process of investigation and law keeping along with training of fellow police officers.

Human nature is a strange thing, especially when one reflects upon ones past actions and decides that the story needs to be changed.

The change being either due to not being financially reimbursed for actions, or as a result of the possible consequences of those actions that you entered into without a qualm or a feeling of self disgust for your actions.

Sackcloth and ashes syndrome comes into play when alcohol departs and what may pass for sanity returns.

[Guest]

The story is not on Andrew Drummonds website....

[Seelow]

I read the story here in Thursday's Daily Mail:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346760/Send-cash-rape-Thai-sex-attackers-mother-British-woman.html

and another article on the front page of The Telegraph:-

Phillip Schofield's holiday heaven and hell

Phillip Schofield, the television personality, on cockroach-ridden hotels, a perfect holiday in New York, and why Phuket is well past its best.

full article :-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hubs/heavenandhell/8252889/Phillip-Schofields-holiday-heaven-and-hell.html

[Beetlejuice]

In the UK press it refers that the girl was on visa overstay, working illegally, short on funds and she consented to going back to the Swedes hotel room.

After the rape the girl was too drunk to identify any of the men, so she said and the police had no leads to pursue the alleged rapists.

So we can draw or own conclusions, because I doubt if there will be any follow up reports on this case.

Edited January 14, 2011 by Beetlejuice

[jayjay0]

Katasyd.

I can read rather well in fact.

I did read the article and that was the conclusion I came to.

I, in the past was involved in the legal process of investigation and law keeping along with training of fellow police officers.

Human nature is a strange thing, especially when one reflects upon ones past actions and decides that the story needs to be changed.

The change being either due to not being financially reimbursed for actions, or as a result of the possible consequences of those actions that you entered into without a qualm or a feeling of self disgust for your actions.

Sackcloth and ashes syndrome comes into play when alcohol departs and what may pass for sanity returns.

I thought you were in academia? Now you are a police man.

I do not doubt that the rape happened. What I don't understand is how she got away and what the British embassy had to do with it. for all I have heard and seen they could care less about there citizens. I know personally of two cases where they refused to help and a church organization stepped in.

[Beetlejuice]

Katasyd.

I can read rather well in fact.

I did read the article and that was the conclusion I came to.

I, in the past was involved in the legal process of investigation and law keeping along with training of fellow police officers.

Human nature is a strange thing, especially when one reflects upon ones past actions and decides that the story needs to be changed.

The change being either due to not being financially reimbursed for actions, or as a result of the possible consequences of those actions that you entered into without a qualm or a feeling of self disgust for your actions.

Sackcloth and ashes syndrome comes into play when alcohol departs and what may pass for sanity returns.

I thought you were in academia? Now you are a police man.

I do not doubt that the rape happened. What I don't understand is how she got away and what the British embassy had to do with it. for all I have heard and seen they could care less about there citizens. I know personally of two cases where they refused to help and a church organization stepped in.

Possibly in this case the British Embassy helped because the girl`s family sent over funds to pay for her return to Britain and after claims of rape from a 23 year old girl it would have mean`t very bad publicity for the FCO if they had turned a blind eye in this matter.

[geriatrickid]

Is there any evidence to support the rape claim? All that is presented is a voyeuristic tabloid sheet article. Rape is a serious charge. Unfortunately, the warning bells should be going off, particularly in light of past attempts to obtain money when people get in trouble in Thailand. How many foreigners claim that they were robbed or had valuables stolen from their hotel rooms that are then shown to have fabricated the stories?

She had got a job on the island after answering an advertisement for 'Time-Share' sales staff but quickly became penniless after earning little commission

Right. forgive me, but considering the type of people that ride around on motorbikes trying to sell these crappy frctional andt time share rip offs, there is a credibility gap from the get go. Is it possible, that she ran out of money and had no way out except to come up with this story? Or maybe she owed money and this was either payback time or a scheme to come up with the money?

Sorry for the cynicism, but I've been around Patong too long to not have a suspicious mind. I have zero tolerance of rape or any form of sexual assault, but sometimes, people claim rape use it as a means to accomplish something else. I can't wait for the author to address that aspect of the story.

[Crossy]

The story is not on Andrew Drummonds website....

It is http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2011/01/13/rapists-called-mum-during-2-hours-attack-on-woman-thailanmd/

Note the incorrect spelling.

[random]

yes, change the title, this a gang rape and not an gang bang, in fact I was hoping it was a gang shooting when I came in the thread only to find it was something else completely.

While people are quick to accuse the girl (and yes, i do know false accusations are made) everyone seems to be forgetting the phone call, and of course she could be in on the whole thing, maybe there was no rape or even sex, maybe it was just an attempt to extort money from her parents. But we should respect this as it is reported, she went to a room with one guy and once there was gang raped, until evidence shows otherwise then we have to suspect that this is what actually happened. If true it must have been horrific for the girl. Remember she was taken for a medical so that must have shown something or I doubt all this fuss would be made. It also appears the consul acted correctly in this matter.

[waza]

Hmm a traumatic experience for the young lady, not only was she gang raped for 2 hours but she was also the victim of kidnap, I assume she didnt agree to stay with the men and attempted extotion, the phone call to the mum damanding money or rape. However, this story begs many questions, I guess this is what happens when your only source is third hand hearsay information. I guess the lesson here is dont party with Swedes and if a UK citizen cries rape then they get an express ticket home. In this case away from any legal hicups.

[cdnvic]

Topic error corrected. Our apologies.

In the future, please hit the report button as it gets a much faster response, but thank you for alerting us.

[coma]

In a case of rape the benefit of doubt should go to the victim.

That is all good unless you are the 'alleged' rapist and you are indeed innocent.

[coma]

Katasyd.

I can read rather well in fact.

I did read the article and that was the conclusion I came to.

I, in the past was involved in the legal process of investigation and law keeping along with training of fellow police officers.

Human nature is a strange thing, especially when one reflects upon ones past actions and decides that the story needs to be changed.

The change being either due to not being financially reimbursed for actions, or as a result of the possible consequences of those actions that you entered into without a qualm or a feeling of self disgust for your actions.

Sackcloth and ashes syndrome comes into play when alcohol departs and what may pass for sanity returns.

You can?? Well what part of " According to a friend: “She said she went back to the room with a Swede and once inside discovered there were five others there, including three Thais." are you struggling to understand?

[Wallaby]

Yeah have to agree. Any reasonable doubt goes in favour of the accused.

[coma]

More information required to form a opinion on what did occur here. I guess the travel insurance company will get to the bottom of it if/and or when she makes the claim for the ransom money.

[Credo]

I will have to give the young lady in question a bit more credibility than some posters.  My guess is that we have a young lady who has almost no money.  She runs into some European guys who spend the evening entertaining her with drinks.  She goes to a hotel room with one and gets caught up in a mess that is more than she bargained for.  

The situation happen to be her ticket out of hell, but it was a high price to pay for that ticket.  

The article says they took her for a medical examination, but it doesn't say whether one was done or not.  

[siampolee]

Jayjay0.

Indeed as you so rightly point out I am, ''academia." I had the delights of serving in a specialised section of the U.K. police force along with lecturing at the Police Staff College, Bramshill.

Strange as it may seem, in my younger days police officers were somewhat better educated and proud of the job.

I experienced the delights of policing in a specialised section, training fellow officers and also being involved in outreach schemes to the educationally disadvantaged of which there were many some twenty years back and there are still many in the U.K. mainly of non U.K. origin who need help.

I resigned early due to a number of factors. The long term plan of retiring to Thailand was brought forward a year or two and I still had my first love education to occupy my time.hence the academic tag.

Please feel free to comment on my life when you are aware of the full facts.

[coma]

Jayjay0.

Indeed as you so rightly point out I am, ''academia." I had the delights of serving in a specialised section of the U.K. police force along with lecturing at the Police Staff College, Bramshill.

Strange as it may seem, in my younger days police officers were somewhat better educated and proud of the job.

I experienced the delights of policing in a specialised section, training fellow officers and also being involved in outreach schemes to the educationally disadvantaged of which there were many some twenty years back and there are still many in the U.K. mainly of non U.K. origin who need help.

I resigned early due to a number of factors. The long term plan of retiring to Thailand was brought forward a year or two and I still had my first love education to occupy my time.hence the academic tag.

Please feel free to comment on my life when you are aware of the full facts.

[DP25]

I got a friend on overstay too, gotta show him this one

[Scott]

I think we will stay on this topic and refrain from commenting on other posters' lives.

[Moonrakers]

I ain't buying it!

You must have serious issues with women if that is your initial reaction to this article

I think you miss the point pal.

I think this person is lying, there is absolutely nothing to back up her claims. Nothing. The story is full of holes and highly sensationalist. I have no issues with women, yet I don't have issues with gullibility either.

Read between the lines and read the Embassy official's quotes again out of context of this article, I don't think they believed her either.

[asiawatcher]

With all due respect to the victim of the crime one is led to wonder what actually possessed her to go back to a hotel room with a group of four men.

I don't think she could even remember her attackers and I guess she was drunk."

A case of , ''beer in wits out?''

Along with the fact that the scribe concerned is one Andrew Drummond, who to my mind and many others minds too, does have a somewhat creative and selective mind when reporting on matters from Thailand.

Mr Drummond gets paid by the word. Stringers always do. But let not the truth stand in the way of a gutter story.

Edited January 14, 2011 by asiawatcher

[VictorOne]

I ain't buying it!

You must have serious issues with women if that is your initial reaction to this article

Probably does not have any sisters. "nor a mother"

[Forethat]

In a case of rape the benefit of doubt should go to the victim.

Well, let's hope you're by no means part of a juridical system anywhere or in a position where you could lobby these scary opinions of yours.