westybrook Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 If working in LOS is too stressful and the money is no good for us, then where can a English man with a Thai wife go to outside of Thailand. What countrys are looking for teachers and what countrys are ok with Thai Citizens comming over too (She has a passport) but I assume would maybe need a visa, or not, im not sure? If you know please quote. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 If working in LOS is too stressful and the money is no good for us, then where can a English man with a Thai wife go to outside of Thailand.What countrys are looking for teachers and what countrys are ok with Thai Citizens comming over too (She has a passport) but I assume would maybe need a visa, or not, im not sure? If you know please quote. Thanks! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Japan or Korea. In JP you would get 2500US$ per month. 100K baht. On that money you can pay about 600-700US for a room. What you can afford to live at would be a bed-town, hacking the trains every morning and evening. If you are married, there would be little or no problems coming together, once you have the work sorted out. I would suggest you come first and face all the impossibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpole Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 You need a degree for Japan and Korea. Try China or Cambodia, although some provinces in China are also tightening up on the visa requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westybrook Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 So Japan and Korea are Degree only countrys? Can someone else confirm this please, not that I don't believe you Rumpole I need a country where you don't need a degree. I will be getting a TESOL when Im in Thailand. Thanks for the replys guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpole Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) Just to clarify, Korea requires a degree to get a teaching visa in order to work legally. I believe that they also now want a TEFL certificate. In Japan, if you are under 30 and hold a British, Australian (and I think US) passport, you can get a one year youth visa without a degree. This entitles you to work, including teaching, but there are restrictions (cannot work at the same place for more than three months?) and it cannot be extended. Thais are not entitled to this visa, so am not sure how your wife would fare. A simple Google search will give you more information and confirm what I have said. Edited September 4, 2005 by Rumpole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenkannif Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 ^ Yep Rumpole is spot on, although I have heard of a fair few people errr getting in through the back door....if you get my drift! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westybrook Posted September 4, 2005 Author Share Posted September 4, 2005 Thanks guys, do you know how much Japan schools pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpole Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) Bottom end "conversation school" salaries (which is basically what you're looking at without a degree and/or experience) have actually been going DOWN recently. Used to be about Y250,000 a month, but some places are now paying Y170,000. Air fares and accommodation are rarely provided. Japan can be a fairly expensive place, and I've heard people suggest that it is wise to bring about US$5000 to set yourself up and tide you over until your first pay day. Edited September 4, 2005 by Rumpole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ijustwannateach Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 One of my friends confirms that salaries are being reduced in Japan. Prices are also theoretically undergoing deflation there (especially the outrageous rents), but I would doubt things had changed enough to justify any decrease in salary. Sounds like Japan's beginning to experience more serious effects from their state of denial about their declining economy. "Steven" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyree D. Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 I don't understand the OP. First he had questions about getting paid. Then he said if he had a degree he wouldn't be a teacher in Thailand. Now he has a Thai wife and wants to teach in Laos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ijustwannateach Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 ^I agree. WB, why don't you just spell out exactly what you're trying to do, rather than asking one single question per thread at a time? You're not going to get too far in Japan without a degree, IMHO. Korea would be better, but not exactly stress-free. "Steven" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Westy hasn't as yet done a quick spelling course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 VIETNAM is by far your best bet. Your Thai will love it there, unlike Korea and you can save more in Vietnam than the Koreas/Taiwans etc and have a rgeat relaxing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpole Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Doesn't Vietnam also require a degree? I do know that they have recently tightened up on the paperwork and are now requiring a work permit. It is no longer possible to teach on just a business visa. I also understand that they are demanding reams of documentation to get the permit - including a police clearance certificate from your home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I think Vietnam would be great...but I heard the pay is horrible. I met a guy a few years ago in Dalat that was making around $100 per month. Doing it mostly for fun, but he was teaching at the university. Hard to live on that...have you heard about folks making more than that? Sure, Tokyo pays a lot, but it is outrageously expensive. I agree that Korea might be better Cruise www.eslcafe.com. Great info on that site for teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legaleagle Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 In my opinion, Viet Nam is a bit of a hidden jewel. The people are very friendly and seriously intelligent. It is totally safe, except for the occassional gold or cellphone snatch. The expat community isn't very big here, but it is pretty high-quality. It is certainly great to get to the bustle of Bangkok with all of the shopping etc. but it is also nice to ride your motorbike five minutes to work, while only having to dodge about 10 tanker trucks that don't stop at red lights! If you are able to secure proper work, you can really save though. I bank nearly a 100K baht a month and I live in a brand-new 2BR condo. With regard to a thai wife, my wife is Thai, she enters on her passport visa and hassle-free and then she gets a six-month business visa in-country for $100 US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamt Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 In my opinion, Viet Nam is a bit of a hidden jewel. The people are very friendly and seriously intelligent. It is totally safe, except for the occassional gold or cellphone snatch. The expat community isn't very big here, but it is pretty high-quality. It is certainly great to get to the bustle of Bangkok with all of the shopping etc. but it is also nice to ride your motorbike five minutes to work, while only having to dodge about 10 tanker trucks that don't stop at red lights! If you are able to secure proper work, you can really save though. I bank nearly a 100K baht a month and I live in a brand-new 2BR condo. With regard to a thai wife, my wife is Thai, she enters on her passport visa and hassle-free and then she gets a six-month business visa in-country for $100 US. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 In my opinion, Viet Nam is a bit of a hidden jewel. The people are very friendly and seriously intelligent. It is totally safe, except for the occassional gold or cellphone snatch. The expat community isn't very big here, but it is pretty high-quality. It is certainly great to get to the bustle of Bangkok with all of the shopping etc. but it is also nice to ride your motorbike five minutes to work, while only having to dodge about 10 tanker trucks that don't stop at red lights! If you are able to secure proper work, you can really save though. I bank nearly a 100K baht a month and I live in a brand-new 2BR condo. With regard to a thai wife, my wife is Thai, she enters on her passport visa and hassle-free and then she gets a six-month business visa in-country for $100 US. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WOW! That is awesome! My wife has been to Vietnam one time and she loved it. Not too crazy about the food, but loved the country. I hear ya on the traffic. One of the few places in the world (Cambo is the other) where I have seen people merge onto streets without even looking. It was amazing how many wrecks I saw in my one month there...many were people on bikes being taken out by crazy truck/bus drivers. But, what a great country from a cultural point of view. Just amazing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Thanks guys, do you know how much Japan schools pay? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> See post #2, there is one more after that. Anyway, some ppl (teachers) I know say they are having a ball here, that money is great (to them). Mostly younger folks learning Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westybrook Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 Hi I've been to my brothers wedding in England, lovely it was, he’s only 19 as well but very mature and was a great day. Guys listen to me, I’m so very thankful for any reply I get to any post I make, I'm not in it to boost my post count or anything like that, but raising individual questions I find gets a lot more exposure and so gets better results for me. Yeah I’m asking all kinds of questions I know, some are helping others too, but while I’m in the UK I want to know the best location for me to teach, people have said Vietnam, a place I was unsure about and have never given a second thought, but now its been mentioned I will and if I can get more info about this then great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Hi I've been to my brothers wedding in England, lovely it was, he’s only 19 as well but very mature and was a great day.Guys listen to me, I’m so very thankful for any reply I get to any post I make, I'm not in it to boost my post count or anything like that, but raising individual questions I find gets a lot more exposure and so gets better results for me. Yeah I’m asking all kinds of questions I know, some are helping others too, but while I’m in the UK I want to know the best location for me to teach, people have said Vietnam, a place I was unsure about and have never given a second thought, but now its been mentioned I will and if I can get more info about this then great <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Check out www.eslcafe.com. I did and it was interesting reading regarding teaching in Vietnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legaleagle Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Here are a few more sites for y'all (spoken for all my cajun brothers in Nawlins). TEACHING http://www.rmit.edu.vn/ (My School) www.mekongesl.com INDUSTRY JOBS http://www.vietnamworks.com/ BUSINESS OPPS http://www.vietnamonline.com/tradeops/commodities.asp http://www.vietnamtrade.org/ PUBLICATIONS http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/ http://news.vnanet.vn/vietnamlaw/index1.asp http://www.vneconomy.com.vn/eng/index.php?...gory&catid=0611 http://thanhniennews.com/ CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE http://www.amchamvietnam.com/ http://www.canchamvietnam.org/ http://www.abgvn.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyree D. Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Hi I've been to my brothers wedding in England, lovely it was, he’s only 19 as well but very mature and was a great day.Guys listen to me, I’m so very thankful for any reply I get to any post I make, I'm not in it to boost my post count or anything like that, but raising individual questions I find gets a lot more exposure and so gets better results for me. Yeah I’m asking all kinds of questions I know, some are helping others too, but while I’m in the UK I want to know the best location for me to teach, people have said Vietnam, a place I was unsure about and have never given a second thought, but now its been mentioned I will and if I can get more info about this then great <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you're still a troll. I'm glad I didn't know about the board when I was still at home. It would have discouraged me from even coming to Thailand, especially teaching. Only you know what is best for you. Personally, I don't like Vietnam. I'll save reasons for another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpole Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Each to his own. Personally, I didn't like working in Thailand either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo_uk Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 You shouldn't be teaching at all if you can't spell countries properly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 You shouldn't be teaching at all if you can't spell countries properly!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm impressed; it has taken over 2 pages of postings to break the bad news, that must be a TV record of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I did pull his coat ... perhaps too gently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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