Thai Democrat Is Confident They Will Retain Membership Of Liberal International

[whybother]

"Whatever the reason, it appears that RA is only going after the Democrats with LI because they were in the news about the visit".

Well there is a bit of a problem there. Abhisit meeting the President of Liberal International wasn't in the news, at least not the english language thai news, I can't speak for the thai language news sources, I'm sure someone can help there. The only reason we got to hear of it was as the result of the response of the Democrat party spokesman to the Amsterdam open letter to the President of LI. Amsterdam was being proactive rather than reactive, as you and others say appears to be the case.

A result of this, as of other other publications by Amsterdam, has been the discussion by members of this forum of the content. I firmly believe that a certain number of English speaking Thais (who knows how many, or their demographic) have also discussed Mr Amsterdams publications. This in addition to their diet of other information sources, whatever they may be, can form or even sway opinion. In that case I would say that Amsterdams efforts have not "come to nothing" but have added to the ongoing debate, particularly in an election year.

(Edit) I'm not sure whether Amsterdams publications are translated to Thai, obviously a missed opportunity if they are not.

It was in the Liberal International newsletter, as posted by Buchholz above.

I am sure that RA has a few lackies keeping up with any news about Abhisit. (It's chargeable to Thaksin, after all.)

Unless you believe that it was pure chance that RA wrote to LI shortly after Abhisit had a meeting with them.

[stepenwolf1958]

To inform you about your beloved Democrats and beloved PM. Under HIS ruling and ruling of democrats, happened so"democratic"thing. It was discovered in Thailand. HUMAN TRAFFICKING and no one else but USA blame it and put Thailand on watching list about human trafficking. Democracy?

Don't make me laugh with your comments here anymore, please. Jolly man you are.

That still is going on, do you know?

Do you want i find for you some article, again?

I'd like to read anything that you may wish to post regarding the Liberal International issues that are the topic of the OP.

Read what Phiphidon posted here. Will be more clear to you then.

Human trafficking is a global problem affecting many countries, but I don't see how it fits in necessarily with the thread's topic, but then perhaps if you can further elucidate your connecting it, then please feel free to do so.

Yes, it is a global problem but if that is going on under ruling of one Democrat Party, full member of LI, for sure that will be a topic on meeting, as LI is concern about human rights where their full members are on power. Anywhere.

Thank you for calling me jolly as I prescribe to the notion that that is a favorable trait. It's certainly more desirable than being sour.

No hard feelings bud, i am trying to be humorous a bit, kidding you a bit. I apolpogy if i hurt you anyway.

Later, we can talk more about your blindness to adore Democrats.

[phiphidon]

It was in the Liberal International newsletter, as posted by Buchholz above.

I am sure that RA has a few lackies keeping up with any news about Abhisit. (It's chargeable to Thaksin, after all.)

Unless you believe that it was pure chance that RA wrote to LI shortly after Abhisit had a meeting with them.

Well curiouser and curiouser. Digging around a bit I find that the open letter to which the Democrat Party Spokesman has finally responded to was written on 30th August 2010.

http://robertamsterdam.com/thailand/?p=333

[whybother]

It was in the Liberal International newsletter, as posted by Buchholz above.

I am sure that RA has a few lackies keeping up with any news about Abhisit. (It's chargeable to Thaksin, after all.)

Unless you believe that it was pure chance that RA wrote to LI shortly after Abhisit had a meeting with them.

Well curiouser and curiouser. Digging around a bit I find that the open letter to which the Democrat Party Spokesman has finally responded to was written on 30th August 2010.

http://robertamsterd...thailand/?p=333

So it appears the LI visit was (probably) a result of the letter, rather than the other way around.

It's still unlikely that anything will come of it.

[stepenwolf1958]

It was in the Liberal International newsletter, as posted by Buchholz above.

I am sure that RA has a few lackies keeping up with any news about Abhisit. (It's chargeable to Thaksin, after all.)

Unless you believe that it was pure chance that RA wrote to LI shortly after Abhisit had a meeting with them.

Well curiouser and curiouser. Digging around a bit I find that the open letter to which the Democrat Party Spokesman has finally responded to was written on 30th August 2010.

http://robertamsterd...thailand/?p=333

So it appears the LI visit was (probably) a result of the letter, rather than the other way around.

It's still unlikely that anything will come of it.

Perhaps here is the clue why that visit happened at all.

Please read this carefully and know that LI is serious organisation and for sure it is worried about things when they are not going by the rules they claim as condition for full membership so they need closely watch all.

[whybother]

Perhaps here is the clue why that visit happened at all.

Please read this carefully and know that LI is serious organisation and for sure it is worried about things when they are not going by the rules they claim as condition for full membership so they need closely watch all.

http://www.thaivisa....der-settlement/

So you're suggesting that LI visited the Democrats because for a number of years they have been disputing the border area?

I wouldn't have thought that LI were interested in border disputes.

[stepenwolf1958]

Perhaps here is the clue why that visit happened at all.

Please read this carefully and know that LI is serious organisation and for sure it is worried about things when they are not going by the rules they claim as condition for full membership so they need closely watch all.

http://www.thaivisa....der-settlement/

So you're suggesting that LI visited the Democrats because for a number of years they have been disputing the border area?

I wouldn't have thought that LI were interested in border disputes.

Not about that only but also because of that. In that article you could see from the very first moment what Abhisit was trying to do. In that article is his trying to ignore and deny decision of UN body. That was good enough reason some one think what is going on with one full member of LI(it would be same with any other country).

As that must to lead to the conflict, ignoring orders of some body of UN, as he did it(tried)-normal reaction(plus all the rest) made IL worried. I hope you read all that article in link i sent you. So no more reasons to wonder why visit was at all. I hope you will understand.

[whybother]

Not about that only but also because of that. In that article you could see from the very first moment what Abhisit was trying to do. In that article is his trying to ignore and deny decision of UN body. That was good enough reason some one think what is going on with one full member of LI(it would be same with any other country).

As that must to lead to the conflict, ignoring orders of some body of UN, as he did it(tried)-normal reaction(plus all the rest) made IL worried. I hope you read all that article in link i sent you. So no more reasons to wonder why visit was at all. I hope you will understand.

Sorry, I'll have to disagree. I am not denying what you are saying about Abhisit (that's for a different discussion), but I don't see how it has anything to do with LI, or why LI would be interested.

Considering the visit was before this latest border skirmish (or whatever it was called), and apparently after a letter from RA, I doubt the border issue was even discussed. Particularly since it has nothing to do with "liberalism", which is what LI is all about.

[phiphidon]

Not about that only but also because of that. In that article you could see from the very first moment what Abhisit was trying to do. In that article is his trying to ignore and deny decision of UN body. That was good enough reason some one think what is going on with one full member of LI(it would be same with any other country).

As that must to lead to the conflict, ignoring orders of some body of UN, as he did it(tried)-normal reaction(plus all the rest) made IL worried. I hope you read all that article in link i sent you. So no more reasons to wonder why visit was at all. I hope you will understand.

Sorry, I'll have to disagree. I am not denying what you are saying about Abhisit (that's for a different discussion), but I don't see how it has anything to do with LI, or why LI would be interested.

Considering the visit was before this latest border skirmish (or whatever it was called), and apparently after a letter from RA, I doubt the border issue was even discussed. Particularly since it has nothing to do with "liberalism", which is what LI is all about.

Not dismissing your discussion but to get back to the Op, what I find interesting is that the Democrat Party Spokesman found it necessary to respond on the 13th February 2011 to a proposal made on the 30th August 2010 to throw the Democrats out of Liberal International. What has happened between those two dates to make a response necessary - or is the Party Spokesman just hopelessly behind on his correspondence?

[Buchholz]

It's all just another feeble action by Amsterdam that we'll be waiting until hell freezes over to see action on.

The Liberal International will expel the Democrat Party right after the ICC accepts the fantasy "crimes against humanity" case.

[stepenwolf1958]

Not about that only but also because of that. In that article you could see from the very first moment what Abhisit was trying to do. In that article is his trying to ignore and deny decision of UN body. That was good enough reason some one think what is going on with one full member of LI(it would be same with any other country).

As that must to lead to the conflict, ignoring orders of some body of UN, as he did it(tried)-normal reaction(plus all the rest) made IL worried. I hope you read all that article in link i sent you. So no more reasons to wonder why visit was at all. I hope you will understand.

Sorry, I'll have to disagree. I am not denying what you are saying about Abhisit (that's for a different discussion), but I don't see how it has anything to do with LI, or why LI would be interested.

Considering the visit was before this latest border skirmish (or whatever it was called), and apparently after a letter from RA, I doubt the border issue was even discussed. Particularly since it has nothing to do with "liberalism", which is what LI is all about.

Membership is an obligation to respect standards of that organisation. Manifest and all other signed documents of LI has to be followed and respected. If you don't, organisation has right to expel you. That is connection.

[stepenwolf1958]

It's all just another feeble action by Amsterdam that we'll be waiting until hell freezes over to see action on.

The Liberal International will expel the Democrat Party right after the ICC accepts the fantasy "crimes against humanity" case.

What is ICC in your post, tell me please.

I hope you are not sarcastic when you mentioned crimes against humanity? Because it is far from fantasy, in case of Democrats.

[Buchholz]

It's all just another feeble action by Amsterdam that we'll be waiting until hell freezes over to see action on.

The Liberal International will expel the Democrat Party right after the ICC accepts the fantasy "crimes against humanity" case.

What is ICC in your post, tell me please.

I hope you are not sarcastic when you mentioned crimes against humanity? Because it is far from fantasy, in case of Democrats.

ICC = International Criminal Court

as described in Amsterdam's other fantasy, besides Liberal International:

Reds To Get Robert Amsterdam To File Case Against Thai Govt

[whybother]

Membership is an obligation to respect standards of that organisation. Manifest and all other signed documents of LI has to be followed and respected. If you don't, organisation has right to expel you. That is connection.

Except that disagreements with international bodies to protect your territory isn't in the LI manifest.

Liberal International (LI) is the world federation of liberal and progressive democratic political parties. LI was founded in 1947 to strengthen liberal protection from totalitarianism, facism and communism. It has since become the pre-eminent network for promoting liberalism, individual freedom, human rights, the rule of law, tolerance, equality of opportunity, social justice, free trade and a market economy.

Liberalism, Human Rights, Free Trade and Development. http://www.liberal-international.org/editorial.asp?ia_id=508

[whybother]

Not dismissing your discussion but to get back to the Op, what I find interesting is that the Democrat Party Spokesman found it necessary to respond on the 13th February 2011 to a proposal made on the 30th August 2010 to throw the Democrats out of Liberal International. What has happened between those two dates to make a response necessary - or is the Party Spokesman just hopelessly behind on his correspondence?

I would expect, it was because that's when the reporter asked.