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Quotes To Remember

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25 "interesting" quotes about Katrina:

1) "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." –President Bush, on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina

2) "What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them." –Former First Lady Barbara Bush, on the Hurricane flood evacuees in the Houston Astrodome, Sept. 5, 2005

3) "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that place could be bulldozed." –House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), Aug.31, 2005

4) "We've got a lot of rebuilding to do ... The good news is — and it's hard for some to see it now — that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house — he's lost his entire house — there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) —President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005

5) "Considering the dire circumstances that we have in New Orleans, virtually a city that has been destroyed, things are going relatively well." —FEMA Director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005

6) "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." –President Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown, while touring Hurricane-ravaged Mississippi, Sept. 2, 2005

7) "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who don't have food and water." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Sept. 1, 2005

8) "Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable damage but nothing worse." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, blaming media coverage for his failings, "Meet the Press," Sept. 4, 2005

9) "I mean, you have people who don't heed those warnings and then put people at risk as a result of not heeding those warnings. There may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not leaving.” –Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sept. 6, 2005

10) "You simply get chills every time you see these poor individuals...many of these people, almost all of them that we see are so poor and they are so black, and this is going to raise lots of questions for people who are watching this story unfold." —CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane evacuees, Sept. 1, 2005

11) "What didn't go right?'" –President George W. Bush, as quoted by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), after she urged him to fire FEMA Director Michael Brown "because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right" in the Hurricane Katrina relief effort

12) "Now tell me the truth boys, is this kind of fun?" –House Majority Leader Tom Delay (R-TX), to three young hurricane evacuees from New Orleans at the Astrodome in Houston

13) "We finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans. We couldn't do it, but God did." –Rep. Richard Baker (R-LA) to lobbyists, as quoted in the Wall Street Journal

14) "Louisiana is a city that is largely under water." —Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, news conference, Sept. 3, 2005

15) "I also want to encourage anybody who was affected by Hurricane Corina to make sure their children are in school." –First Lady Laura Bush, twice referring to a "Hurricane Corina" while speaking to children and parents in South Haven, Mississippi, Sept. 8, 2005

16) "It's totally wiped out. ... It's devastating, it's got to be doubly devastating on the ground." –President George W. Bush, turning to his aides while surveying Hurricane Katrina flood damage from Air Force One, Aug. 31, 2005

17) "I believe the town where I used to come – from Houston, Texas, to enjoy myself, occasionally too much – will be that very same town, that it will be a better place to come to." –President George W. Bush, on the tarmac at the New Orleans airport, Sept. 2, 2005

18) "Last night, we showed you the full force of a superpower government going to the rescue." –MSNBC's Chris Matthews, Sept. 1, 2005

19) "You know I talked to Haley Barbour, the governor of Mississippi yesterday because some people were saying, 'Well, if you hadn't sent your National Guard to Iraq, we here in Mississippi would be better off.' He told me 'I've been out in the field every single day, hour, for four days and no one, not one single mention of the word Iraq.' Now where does that come from? Where does that story come from if the governor is not picking up one word about it? I don't know. I can use my imagination.” –Former President George Bush, who can give his imagination a rest, interview with CNN’s Larry King, Sept. 5, 2005

20) "We just learned of the convention center – we being the federal government – today." –FEMA Director Michael Brown, to ABC's Ted Koppel, Sept. 1, 2005, to which Koppel responded " Don't you guys watch television? Don't you guys listen to the radio? Our reporters have been reporting on it for more than just today."

21) "I don't want to alarm everybody that, you know, New Orleans is filling up like a bowl. That's just not happening." -Bill Lokey, FEMA's New Orleans coordinator, in a press briefing from Baton Rouge, Aug. 30, 2005

22) "FEMA is not going to hesitate at all in this storm. We are not going to sit back and make this a bureaucratic process. We are going to move fast, we are going to move quick, and we are going to do whatever it takes to help disaster victims." --FEMA Director Michael Brown, Aug. 28, 2005

23) "I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans." –FEMA Director Michael Brown, arguing that the victims bear some responsibility, CNN interview, Sept. 1, 2005

24) "I understand there are 10,000 people dead. It's terrible. It's tragic. But in a democracy of 300 million people, over years and years and years, these things happen." --GOP strategist Jack Burkman, on MSNBC's "Connected," Sept. 7, 2005

25) "Thank President Clinton and former President Bush for their strong statements of support and comfort today. I thank all the leaders that are coming to Louisiana, and Mississippi and Alabama to our help and rescue. We are grateful for the military assets that are being brought to bear. I want to thank Senator Frist and Senator Reid for their extraordinary efforts. Anderson, tonight, I don't know if you've heard – maybe you all have announced it -- but Congress is going to an unprecedented session to pass a $10 billion supplemental bill tonight to keep FEMA and the Red Cross up and operating." –Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA), to CNN's Anderson Cooper, Aug. 31, 2005, to which Cooper responded:

"I haven't heard that, because, for the last four days, I've been seeing dead bodies in the streets here in Mississippi. And to listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, you know, I got to tell you, there are a lot of people here who are very upset, and very angry, and very frustrated. And when they hear politicians slap – you know, thanking one another, it just, you know, it kind of cuts them the wrong way right now, because literally there was a body on the streets of this town yesterday being eaten by rats because this woman had been laying in the street for 48 hours. And there's not enough facilities to take her up. Do you get the anger that is out here?"

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From correspondents in Washington

September 10, 2005

ONE million evacuees, and up to 350,000 left homeless: that would be the results of a hurricane hitting New Orleans, according to a year-old document from the US Federal Emergency Management Agency made public overnight.

The Government document appears to contradict claims by top US officials that nobody had anticipated the outcome of a powerful hurricane hitting Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina did last week.

The 2004 FEMA document was made public by opposition Democrats in the US House of Representatives.

It explains that a hurricane of between category three and five in strength (on the Saffir-Simspon scale) hitting the southern state of Louisiana would create "a catastrophe with which the state would not be able to cope without massive help from neighbouring states and the Federal Government."

State and federal emergency management officials "believe that the gravity of the situation calls for an extraordinary level of advance planning to improve government readiness to respond effectively to such an event."

In the event of a hurricane hit "over one million people would evacuate from New Orleans. Evacuees would crowd shelters throughout Louisiana and adjacent states."

The hurricane water surge "would block highways and trap 300,000 to 350,000 persons in flooded areas. Storm surge combined with heavy rain could leave much of New Orleans under six metres of water. More than 518 square kilometres of urban areas would be flooded."

The document also warned that it would take weeks to drain the water out of New Orleans because "inundated pumping stations and damaged pump motors would be inoperable" and because the flood protection levees "would prevent drainage of floodwater."

It also noted that rescue operations "would be difficult because much of the area would be reachable only by helicopters and boats," and that hospitals "would be overcrowded with special-needs patients," noting that "backup generators would run out of fuel or fail before patients could be moved elsewhere.

"The New Orleans area would be without electric power, food, potable water, medicine, or transportation for an extended time period," the document read, and warned that "damaged chemical plants and industries could spill hazardous materials."

It added that "standing water and diseases could threaten public health," and that there "would be severe economic repercussions for the state and region."

- The Australian

:o

Move along, nothing to see here :o

Everything is fine, mission accomplished

Be a patriot, support our President in those difficult times. We need to look forward, forget the past. Everything is great.

why do you hate America :D

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Against the rules to double-post here, B-Fly.

But then, you ain't into 'rules' too much anyhow are ya! :o

On Topic: "Shit Happens" out of Forrest Gump refering to Hurricane Camile.

Miscellaneous quotes from:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/ap_on_...rricane_katrina

"I'm not sure I'm going to get out of here alive," said tourist Larry Mitzel of Saskatoon, Canada, who handed a reporter his business card in case he goes missing. "I'm scared of riots. I'm scared of the locals. We might get caught in the crossfire."

"We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten," Compass said. "Tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon."

Tourist Debbie Durso of Washington, Mich., said she asked a police officer for assistance and his response was, "'Go to ###### — it's every man for himself.'"

New Orleans Tourist/Recreation Industry RIP !!

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New Orleans Tourist/Recreation Industry RIP !!

But I am sure Hollywoods going to have a lot of fun:

Top Ten Movies September 2-5 2005

1 Transporter 3 with GWB (complete with a built in 5-day delay)

2. The 40-Year-Old-Virgin - (Michael Brown dreams of horses and crisis management)

3. The Constant Gardener - (landscape around those dead bodies in the New New Orleans)

4. Red Eye (How drinking too much on holiday can affect your judgement))

5. The Brothers Grimm (GWB and bro doing what they can - which is no good at all)

6. Four Brothers (A tale of woe starring GWB, Dick Cheney, Michael Brown and Condeleza Rice)

7. Wedding Crashers 2 (Laugh as Katrina tries unsuccessfully to “crash” a holiday)

8. March of the Penguins (the true story behind Federal relief)

9. The Skeleton Key (what GWB believes is the absolute truth about that evil city New Orleans)

10. The Cave (A story of the housing project for the displaced of New Orleans)

From:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/7/235423.shtml

Gov. Kathleen Blanco's Bureaucrats Blocked Food and Water

The Red Cross was reportedly ready to deliver food, water and other supplies to flood-ravaged refugees who were sweltering inside New Orleans' Superdome last week - but the relief was blocked by bureaucrats who worked for Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco.

Fox News Channel's Major Garrett reported Wednesday that the Red Cross had "trucks with water, food, hygiene equipment, all sorts of things ready to go ... to the Superdome and Convention Center."

But the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, Garrett said, "told them they could not go."

"The Red Cross tells me that Louisiana's Department of Homeland Security said, 'Look, we do not want to create a magnet for more people to come to the Superdome or Convention Center, we want to get them out,'" he explained.

"So at the same time local officials were screaming where is the food, where is the water, the Red Cross was standing by ready [and] the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security said you can't go."

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Yet, the bush-bashers were all over the place stating that this problem was created solely by lack of response from him and his cronies.

Where are the bush-bashers now that the truth is out?

Yeah .... I know .... the truth hurts, doesn't it?

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Excellent, Spee.

By the time this Katrina disaster is over and the truth is out - the B-Flys, TM's etc on this forum will be wearing the egg face and eating the crow! :o

" ... Fox News Channel's Major Garrett reported Wednesday that the Red Cross had "trucks with water, food, hygiene equipment, all sorts of things ready to go ... to the Superdome and Convention Center."

But the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, Garrett said, "told them they could not go."

uhm, let me see, you are quoting a right-wing journal, that is quoting a story by Fox News :D This is hardly unbiased "factual" information.

The news item is interesting. If it is indeed fact, it is an important aspect to the whole unfolding debacle. However, you make assumptions that LA bureaucrats working for the Dept. Of Homeland Security fall under the command of Blanco. It's a federal chain of command, and I doubt they are under the juridsdictional demands of the governor any more than CIA or FBI offices are under the local juridsdiction of their outposts.

But I don't know, it's merely a question. In addition to the structure and chain of command (for a federal agency outpost), I would also need to know when this command occured before passing judgement based on a single article in a conservative journal, which uses Fox News as a single source :o

From multiple news outlets, when asked about the ultimate death toll from the storm, hizzoner the mayor of NO responded by saying:

"It wouldn't be unreasonable to have 10,000."

Not so famous last words? One would hope so given his recent demonstration of obvious incompetency.

While it is a tragedy for anyone to die in this way, I believe the official count has yet to exceed several hundred, and that is for the entire affected region, not just NO. As of Saturday, there were more reported deaths in Mississippi than in Louisiana, much less NO.

Nagin and Blanco should be impeached and removed from office for demonstrated incompetence and lack of planning in the face of a well-known, simulated and predicted disaster scenario.

IMHO, it's not too far-fetched that Nagin should be prosecuted for inciting public unrest and disorder by these and other well publicized "Chicken Little" rants.

uhm, let me see, you are quoting a right-wing journal, that is quoting a story by Fox News  :o  This is hardly unbiased "factual" information.

Oh I get it.

The NY Times, LA Times and The Socialist Worker are the only papers in America that publish the truth.

However, you make assumptions that LA bureaucrats working for the Dept. Of Homeland Security fall under the command of Blanco.

Well, ummm, actually, the group quoted in the article was the "Louisiana" Dept. of Homeland Security, which does report to the Governor.

Perhaps you should read more carefully before you slap one in the chamber and pull the trigger.

Incredible.

You think Blanco and Nagin should be impeached for revising a death toll in the wake of a disaster, but George Bush should remain intact for lying - ahem - overstating WMD's with fake intelligence and wasting thousands of American and Iraqi lives? Let's forgo the billions and billions of dollars for a minute, in what was supposed to be a war that lasted "a couple of weeks". As I said, boggles the mind.

For your information, death tolls are almost ALWAYS revised shortly after the immediate impact of disasters. This is common and is often used as a strategy to offset the shock of a higher-than-expected death toll. You can substantiate this yourself by googling early accounts of the other disaster that occured under this Adminstration: 9/11.

It is rather unremarkable to revise a death toll, and there was no undue incitment, except to finally gain the attention of federal authorities that were preoccupied by a birthday party :o

uhm, let me see, you are quoting a right-wing journal, that is quoting a story by Fox News  :D  This is hardly unbiased "factual" information.

Oh I get it.

The NY Times, LA Times and The Socialist Worker are the only papers in America that publish the truth.

However, you make assumptions that LA bureaucrats working for the Dept. Of Homeland Security fall under the command of Blanco.

Well, ummm, actually, the group quoted in the article was the "Louisiana" Dept. of Homeland Security, which does report to the Governor.

Perhaps you should read more carefully before you slap one in the chamber and pull the trigger.

:o Well, um, I would never slap one in the chamber to shoot someone because I believe in gun control, unlike the political pundits you defend.

And, um, as I said, I need more information from different sources before I can conclude that the bureaucrats in question were following the Governor's command. They are obviously a federal office, so that is usually more complicated than merely following local jurisdiction, as is the case with other federal offices.

I'm simply saying that I need more information, because this article doesn't specifically prove that it's BLANCO as you allege.

And actually, I do believe that the NY Times and the LA Times are better examples of journalism than Fox News, which by self-admission is not a news channel. But there are plenty of other sources, and I never reach conclusions based on just a few news sources, nor should anyone.

:o Well, um, I would never slap one in the chamber to shoot someone because I believe in gun control ...

Well, umm, no, your's are the words of a "gun-grabber," not someone who believes in legal ownership through effective legislation.

Incredible. 

You think Blanco and Nagin should be impeached for revising a death toll in the wake of a disaster,

Well, ummm, there you go, loading one in the chamber and going off half-cocked.

What I said was they should be impeached for demonstrating gross incompetence in the face of an emergency life or death situation for their constituencies.

And yes, I did say Nagin ought to be prosecuted for his inflammatory and exaggerated public statements.

He should have been the calm and composed presence to give people hope and show them leadership and control.

Instead, he was the gasoline on the fire of an already chaotic situation. He contributed to the unrest, rather than trying to keep it to a minimum.

Let me see: your characterizing my words as "gun-grabbing", because I need more proof that the unnamed bureaucrats in question of the LA Dept. of Homeland Security, as reported by NewsMax and Fox News, were actually following the command of Blanco?

:o You blow me away!

Desperately seeking an argument :D

Let me see:  your characterizing my words as "gun-grabbing", because I need more proof that the unnamed bureaucrats in question of the LA Dept. of Homeland Security, as reported by NewsMax and Fox News, were actually following the command of Blanco?

:o You blow me away!

Desperately seeking an argument  :D

So let me see if I have this correct ....

If I had pulled that quote from the NY Times, then you wouldn't have pitched a fit?

"Nagin and Blanco should be impeached and removed from office for demonstrated incompetence and lack of planning in the face of a well-known, simulated and predicted disaster scenario.

IMHO, it's not too far-fetched that Nagin should be prosecuted for inciting public unrest and disorder by these and other well publicized "Chicken Little" rants."

ok, so here are the semantics of what you did say. If I am "loading one in the chamber" as you say, then your arguments actually point the gun at innocent people and pull the trigger.

My quotes were off, but your entire argument is half-cocked: irresponsible, hypocritical, and totally devoid of ethical and intellectual honesty. You want Blanco and Nagin impeached, but not the President, who has now raised serious doubts about not 1 but 2 unprecedented disasters in American History. Unf*ckinbelievable.

And by the way, let me assure you, I have perfect aim, and if I ever needed to use a gun, it would be fully-loaded and cocked :o

Doubts? Matter of conjecture dear Kat! :D

Mayor/Gov - no need to impeach them. I think they are pretty much politically done - the voters will take care of them! :o

As for your president - well no re-election possible so he's done too!!! :D

Let me see:  your characterizing my words as "gun-grabbing", because I need more proof that the unnamed bureaucrats in question of the LA Dept. of Homeland Security, as reported by NewsMax and Fox News, were actually following the command of Blanco?

:o You blow me away!

Desperately seeking an argument  :D

So let me see if I have this correct ....

If I had pulled that quote from the NY Times, then you wouldn't have pitched a fit?

The New York Times relies on more than 1 news channel source for their stories :D They have their lapses and occasional freaks like everyone, but they are not a rag.

Also, if the story which you allege about Blanco is true, it will be picked up by a wider variety of news sources. Then it can be debated openly, with different angles quoted or presented. Your news reference hasn't done that as of yet.

Doubts? Matter of conjecture dear Kat! :D

Mayor/Gov - no need to impeach them. I think they are pretty much politically done - the voters will take care of them! :D

As for your president - well no re-election possible so he's done too!!! :D

Doubts was putting it mildly. You think that is conjecture? Well, I guess you live on another planet :o

We can't even debate the obvious here, so I'm going to bed.

Doubts? Matter of conjecture dear Kat! :D

Mayor/Gov - no need to impeach them. I think they are pretty much politically done - the voters will take care of them! :D

As for your president - well no re-election possible so he's done too!!! :D

Doubts was putting it mildly. You think that is conjecture? Well, I guess you live on another planet :o

We can't even debate the obvious here, so I'm going to bed.

Sweet Warm and Fuzzy Dreams Kat!!! :D

Thanks Brit :o

The New York Times relies on more than 1 news channel source for their stories  :o  They have their lapses and occasional freaks like everyone, but they are not a rag.

The NY Times having the occasional lapse and freak, is like former president Hill-Billy getting the occasional oval office bj.

Do the names Jayson Blair and Timothy O'Brien ring a bell? If not, they should as they are prime examples of the unethical practices (e.g., plagiarism, fabricated stories, etc.) which seem to be so commonplace in the NY Times. See:

http://www.russianlaw.org/nytimes-main.htm

And these two chumps were RISING STARS within the NY Times organization!

I find it hard to believe that anyone spends a nickel on this RAG!

Sorry, a consulting outfit like Authur Andersen gets caught cooking the books. They deserve to get put out of business and they were.

A "newspaper" which clearly makes common practice of violating journalistic ethics deserves no less. The problem is the NY Times has built such a huge folowing from the loyal leftists of Manhattan that this will never happen. In other words, the loyal left will continue to buy and believe in the NY Times, despite the fact that it is a RAG!

You want Blanco and Nagin impeached, but not the President, who has now raised serious doubts about not 1 but 2 unprecedented disasters in American History.  Unf*ckinbelievable.

Blanco and Nagin should be impeached because they were grossly negligent in their sworn duties. Do you deny this fact? If yes, why? What did they do that demonstrated preparation and competency?

As far as your bush-bashing goes, exactly how did the President raise doubts about 911 and Katrina?

- 911 happened and Bush started kickin' a*s and takin' names. There was hardly a single Congress-person (male or female, elephant or donkey) to be found with an opposing view of his post-911 strategy (at least until just before the last election). So how does that raise doubts? Face facts, Kat, it didn't and it doesn't. When practically all of Congress backs the President's play, then by default he is doing the right thing for the country.

- How did Bush's action raise doubts about the hurricane disaster. He had people on the ground and mobilized in less than 5 days. For the record, that's a full 1 week FASTER than people got mobilized under Clinton for Hurricane Andrew, and under BushSr for Hurricane Hugo. So how does that raise doubts?

Why don't you just face it Kat? You can't stand Bush and there is nothing that will stand in your way for taking a cheap shot at him.

Then when people like me stand up with a counter-point, not to defend Bush but to point out the realities and facts of the situation, you just call people Bush-lovers and neo-cons. Sometimes the truth hurts doesn't it?

From multiple news outlets, when asked about the ultimate death toll from the storm, hizzoner the mayor of NO responded by saying:

"It wouldn't be unreasonable to have 10,000."

Not so famous last words? One would hope so given his recent demonstration of obvious incompetency.

While it is a tragedy for anyone to die in this way, I believe the official count has yet to exceed several hundred, and that is for the entire affected region, not just NO. As of Saturday, there were more reported deaths in Mississippi than in Louisiana, much less NO.

Nagin and Blanco should be impeached and removed from office for demonstrated incompetence and lack of planning in the face of a well-known, simulated and predicted disaster scenario.

IMHO, it's not too far-fetched that Nagin should be prosecuted for inciting public unrest and disorder by these and other well publicized "Chicken Little" rants.

The entire death toll for ALL of Louisiana has hardly reached 200. Nagin only exaggerated and over-reacted by a factor of 50. But hey, that's not gross incompetence.

I used to think it was just the editorial page of the NYT that was out-of-step.

No longer...the entire paper (rag) sucks - to wit:

Kurtz Backs Geraldo in 'NYT' Dispute Over Katrina Incident

By E&P Staff

Published: September 12, 2005 12:07 PM ET

NEW YORK At the time, it seemed like a minor, one-day story -- amid the tragedy of the hurricane catastrophe -- but is The New York Times, normally quick to run a correction or clarification, making it much more than that by stonewalling?

Read the whole thing...

Link

Keep fighting it, Boon. Keep fighting...

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