Released Red Shirt Leader Kwanchai To Contest Election As Pheu Thai Party-List Candidate

[scorecard]

The other paper quotes these goons as saying they want to fight for democracy inside of parliament.

Does that mean they are are now going to give structured, insightful fully detailed speeches with total focus on the specific factors which build and maintain quality democracy, and explain in detail the factors to beware of which can easily destroy democracy?

Not holding my breath. And just wondering whether they wil all become clones of jatuporn, just doing more and more damage to thailand, and doing nothing to take thailand forward in terms of political stability and a stronger democracy?

[Buchholz]

"We talked when we were in jail and agreed that we were mistreated by the authorities. It would be better if we had immunity. We want to run for party list seats," said Kwanchai Praipana, one of seven top Red Shirts freed Tuesday.

Immunity to do what? Fight for democracy and justice? What about the other red-shirts still awaiting their process? Same same, or different?

Well as it appears that the Judges have had a change of heart, because, god forbid, it cannot be that the judicial system could be interfered with in a political sense to set the Red Shirt Leaders free (on bail despite turning down request several times before). One can only assume that up and down the breadth of the country other Judges hearts will be filled with joy and love and in a real sense of reconciliation realise that the hundred or so red shirts still awaiting charges or facing ridiculously high bail conditions will also be set free, if only to remain on bail, but at home or so they can get back to earning an income again. Who knows even Tharit might overcome his personal vendetta, but in reality...................

ROFLMAO.... $200 bail on an aggravated arson charge for some of the Red Shirt Thugs that burned downed Udon Thani and Ubon Ratchathani Provincial Halls is now being deemed not only "high," but now it's being labeled "ridiculously high"....

great humor...

Especially in light of the Red Shirt Leaders having no difficulty showing up in court with 21 Million Baht IN CASH for their bail request.

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Edited February 25, 2011 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

Natthawut said he would continue fighting along side the red-shirt people for democracy.

Problem is, his idea of "fighting" is to instigate violence that has injured people in July 2007, April 2009, April/May 2010.

A three-time loser. Sounds perfect to be a Pheu Thai Party MP.

[Buchholz]

Kwanchai Praiphana, potential Member of Parliament from Udon Thani

Does Kwanchai have a university degree? I cannot seem to find much information about his education, but if I am not mistaken, MP's must have a degree.

I believe he completed a doctorate, with honors, in .... (insert possibility of your choice)

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Edited February 25, 2011 by Buchholz

[jayjay0]

July 25 2008 : Kwanchai Praiphana, leader of the Udon Thani Guard Group, admitted during an interview on Channel 3 that he let his supporters to beat up protesters led by the People's Alliance for Democracy. Kwanchai vowed to lead his supporters to beat PAD protesters again if they hold another rally in the northeastern province. On Thursday, Kwanchai led hundreds of protesters demolish PAD's stage and beat up PAD protesters, seriously injuring two of them. Kwanchai said he had warned local PAD supporters several times not to organise a rally in the province, because he regarded that anti-government rallies damaged the province's reputation. "Yes, I did it and I am not afraid of legal action because I will be charged only on public brawl charges," Kwanchai said. "I've warned them several times that they must not come here."

http://www.nationmul...s-30078978.html

Yay for Red Democracy

Why do some people support the red shirts?

This really pains me to say but they support them because they are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Education is not going to help these people. Not supporting the red shirts is not a question of intelligence its a question of Logic and that is not what they are trained to do they are trained to listen to any one who says he or she is going to get them a lot of goodies. The logical conclusion when they see no goodies just a lot of talk is to look for some one who can deliver.

It hurt me to post that. I am not a Thai basher and really have no use for Thai bashers. To me they are lower than what they are trying to make the Thai's out to be.

[jayjay0]

The other paper quotes these goons as saying they want to fight for democracy inside of parliament.

Does that mean they are are now going to give structured, insightful fully detailed speeches with total focus on the specific factors which build and maintain quality democracy, and explain in detail the factors to beware of which can easily destroy democracy?

Not holding my breath. And just wondering whether they wil all become clones of jatuporn, just doing more and more damage to thailand, and doing nothing to take thailand forward in terms of political stability and a stronger democracy?

If Thailand is not a democracy how do they figure on getting elected?

[AleG]

Kwanchai said the seven leaders wanted to have legal immunity after the election so that they will not be put in jail again.

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"Actually, I don't want to play politics but I have sacrificed myself so much that my life has been affected by several issues."

So, he doesn't want to actually do any of the political work involved in holding a MP position, he just wants to get the law out of his back.

I understand that sending other people to loot, arson, kill and be killed is a terrible, terrible sacrifice, the guy really deserves a break.

[Insight]

Please Abhisit, get your boys in gear and remove the right to immunity for prosecution for MP's.

Amen. It's not as if this "immunity" is a so-called democratic right which needs to preserved. Quite the contrary, in fact.

[TAWP]

Has anyone ever heard of such a bastardisation of the election process anywhere in the world?

Please Abhisit, get your boys in gear and remove the right to immunity for prosecution for MP's.

Immunity for MP's is a clear sign of an immature state.

[MikeOboe57]

It is time for a Thai version of "Spitting Images".

[animatic]

Has anyone ever heard of such a bastardisation of the election process anywhere in the world?

Please Abhisit, get your boys in gear and remove the right to immunity for prosecution for MP's.

Immunity for MP's is a clear sign of an immature state.

I always thought that when they wanted to try Jaques Chirac because of his immunity, except France isn't that young. You can't try American presidents and the like until AFTER impeachment by their legislative brethren, but it can be done.

See: Andrew Johnson, Clinton Nixon.

Edited February 26, 2011 by animatic

[Who, me ?]

Kwanchai said the seven leaders wanted to have legal immunity after the election so that they will not be put in jail again.

...

"Actually, I don't want to play politics but I have sacrificed myself so much that my life has been affected by several issues."

So, he doesn't want to actually do any of the political work involved in holding a MP position, he just wants to get the law out of his back.

I understand that sending other people to loot, arson, kill and be killed is a terrible, terrible sacrifice, the guy really deserves a break.

Another real hero!

[frodo]

The other online news source has reported that PT has welcomed the seven.

"Key members of the Puea Thai Party have agreed to welcome leaders of the red-shirt United front for Democracy against Dictatorship who want to run for MP seats in the upcoming election, spokesman of the opposition camp Jirayu Huangsap said on Saturday."

[animatic]

The other online news source has reported that PT has welcomed the seven.

"Key members of the Puea Thai Party have agreed to welcome leaders of the red-shirt United front for Democracy against Dictatorship who want to run for MP seats in the upcoming election, spokesman of the opposition camp Jirayu Huangsap said on Saturday."

Name recognition, a fan base

and ability to lie with a straight face, a plus,

moral stature and ability do the job, irrelevant.

Edited February 26, 2011 by animatic

[rubl]

The other online news source has reported that PT has welcomed the seven.

"Key members of the Puea Thai Party have agreed to welcome leaders of the red-shirt United front for Democracy against Dictatorship who want to run for MP seats in the upcoming election, spokesman of the opposition camp Jirayu Huangsap said on Saturday."

Name recognition, a fan base

and ability to lie with a straight face, a plus,

moral stature and ability do the job, irrelevant.

I assume that as usual in PTP the big boss has to approve. At least when k. Thaksin does give his stamp of approval he will know at least seven UDD leaders / red-shirts more than before

Edited February 26, 2011 by rubl

[AleG]

The other online news source has reported that PT has welcomed the seven.

"Key members of the Puea Thai Party have agreed to welcome leaders of the red-shirt United front for Democracy against Dictatorship who want to run for MP seats in the upcoming election, spokesman of the opposition camp Jirayu Huangsap said on Saturday."

Name recognition, a fan base

and ability to lie with a straight face, a plus,

moral stature and ability do the job, irrelevant.

I assume that as usual in PTP the big boss has to approve. At least when k. Thaksin does give his stamp of approval he will know at least seven UDD leaders / red-shirts more than before

Oh, they are doomed then; Thaksin said he doesn't know them...

[slapout]

If jail time is considered as a asset by the Thai voters there are a few more that could throw their hat in the ring. Now when the 5 year exiles are back in the running and any additional that get caught plus those with immunity, it will be business as usual. Of course they will have to make up for time/income lost but I have confidence that they are up to the task.

[janverbeem]

Has anyone ever heard of such a bastardisation of the election process anywhere in the world?

Please Abhisit, get your boys in gear and remove the right to immunity for prosecution for MP's.

Immunity for MP's is a clear sign of an immature state.

I always thought that when they wanted to try Jaques Chirac because of his immunity, except France isn't that young. You can't try American presidents and the like until AFTER impeachment by their legislative brethren, but it can be done.

See: Andrew Johnson, Clinton Nixon.

I may be wrong but I think they always can be tried for crimes commited before their presidency.

[philw]

Has anyone ever heard of such a bastardisation of the election process anywhere in the world?

Please Abhisit, get your boys in gear and remove the right to immunity for prosecution for MP's.

You are a guest in their country............

[SomTumTiger]

Loves watching people defend the Red Muppets.

[Buchholz]

The other online news source has reported that PT has welcomed the seven.

"Key members of the Puea Thai Party have agreed to welcome leaders of the red-shirt United front for Democracy against Dictatorship who want to run for MP seats in the upcoming election, spokesman of the opposition camp Jirayu Huangsap said on Saturday."

It'll be interesting to hear if the Red Shirt Leaders will contest for MP seats in their real home constituencies (where all may not win) OR if the Pheu Thai Party plans on slotting them into PTP-dominated districts where their winning is a fair certainty.

[473geo]

Don't understand all your flapping, guys.........surely the opposition can easily find a more suitable representative......well they will won't they?............then the guy just does not get elected.....

[Buchholz]

Don't understand all your flapping, guys.........surely the opposition can easily find a more suitable representative......well they will won't they?............then the guy just does not get elected.....

The Pheu Thai Party is the opposition and while one might think that they could easily find more suitable representatives than Red Shirt terrorist suspects out on bail to represent their Party, apparently they can't and so have decided to back their candidacies.

[473geo]

Don't understand all your flapping, guys.........surely the opposition can easily find a more suitable representative......well they will won't they?............then the guy just does not get elected.....

The Pheu Thai Party is the opposition and while one might think that they could easily find more suitable representatives than Red Shirt terrorist suspects out on bail to represent their Party, apparently they can't and so have decided to back their candidacies.

It would appear there is no opposition to the guy getting elected then......according to your interpretation of my post......... .....(deliberate or otherwise)

[Buchholz]

Don't understand all your flapping, guys.........surely the opposition can easily find a more suitable representative......well they will won't they?............then the guy just does not get elected.....

The Pheu Thai Party is the opposition and while one might think that they could easily find more suitable representatives than Red Shirt terrorist suspects out on bail to represent their Party, apparently they can't and so have decided to back their candidacies.

It would appear there is no opposition to the guy getting elected then......according to your interpretation of my post......... .....(deliberate or otherwise)

I was interpreting your use of "opposition" in it's common formal use to indicated the party/parties not in control of a current government, whereas it appears now you meant to use it in its informal use to reflect those opposing the Pheu Thai Party.

Unfortunately a more suitable candidate that can contest an election against these Red Shirt Leaders, while certainly easy to find, is not necessarily assured of a winning an election, especially if they contesting the bailed terrorist suspects in districts that are PTP-dominated constituencies.

That sort of domination is no easy task to overcome running against a PTP-decided-upon candidate, even if, for example, that PTP candidate was a soi dog or a mop.

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Edited February 27, 2011 by Buchholz

[473geo]

Don't understand all your flapping, guys.........surely the opposition can easily find a more suitable representative......well they will won't they?............then the guy just does not get elected.....

The Pheu Thai Party is the opposition and while one might think that they could easily find more suitable representatives than Red Shirt terrorist suspects out on bail to represent their Party, apparently they can't and so have decided to back their candidacies.

It would appear there is no opposition to the guy getting elected then......according to your interpretation of my post......... .....(deliberate or otherwise)

I was interpreting your use of "opposition" in it's common formal use to indicated the party/parties not in control of a current government, whereas it appears now you meant to use it in its informal use to reflect those opposing the Pheu Thai Party.

Unfortunately a more suitable candidate that can contest an election against these Red Shirt Leaders, while certainly easy to find, is not necessarily assured of a winning an election, especially if they contesting the bailed terrorist suspects in districts that are PTP-dominated constituencies.

That sort of domination is no easy task to overcome running against a PTP-decided-upon candidate, even if, for example, that PTP candidate was a soi dog or a mop.

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Perhaps the mop is expected to clean up the image of the government, and the soi dog to make a noise about the current predicament,......a little disturbing that people are so disillusioned with the government don't you think? Perhaps the government should increase the intensity of the information flow regarding the success of the road map to reform and reconcilliation? Why is the message below not getting across?

"Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has provided details of his government's outline on national reform, which will focus on improving people's well-being and equality of life and justice.

Speaking yesterday(01/01/2011) in a recorded television programme entitled "Thailand's national reform: for the equal and fair future of Thais", Abhisit said the focus of the reform was to bring equality to all Thais so that they enjoy a better quality of living. "The most important element that the reform focuses on is human, meaning every citizen. The ultimate goal is to improve their well-being. We will start from birth till they grow up to become workers and part of society,'' he said. - source TN

Edit: inserted date in quote for clarity

Edited February 27, 2011 by 473geo

[rubl]

I assume that as usual in PTP the big boss has to approve. At least when k. Thaksin does give his stamp of approval he will know at least seven UDD leaders / red-shirts more than before

Just read that "Natthawut said former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra phoned the seven leaders from abroad to congratulate them on their release."

So I guess k. Thaksin has at least heard about them, even though he may not know them

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2011/02/28/national/Top-red-shirts-to-run-for-pheu-thai-in-poll-30149700.html