Israel tries to stop new Gaza-bound flotilla

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Israel tries to stop new Gaza-bound flotilla

2011-04-14 00:18:29 GMT+7 (ICT)

JERUSALEM (BNO NEWS) -- Israel has asked Turkey to prevent the sailing of another Gaza-bound flotilla in mid-June, the Jerusalem Post reported Wednesday.

Israel's envoy in Turkey, Gabi Levy, told Halit Cevik, deputy undersecretary of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, that Israel had no problem with the transportation of humanitarian aid into Gaza through the legal channels.

"The passages to Gaza are open. There is a greater flexibility on the Israeli side. The quota for 220 trucks cannot even be filled as there is no need for more aid. Under these conditions, such an aid campaign could only be seen as provocation," Levy was quoted as saying.

He also warned that "international law permits countries to intervene with ships that could pose a threat to their national security."

According to local media, a Turkish diplomat said Israel's request was "still being evaluated."

On Tuesday, the Free Gaza Movement, one of the chief organizers of the upcoming "Freedom Flotilla", released a press statement from Athens saying participants from more than 50 countries will be on board.

The flotilla was originally expected to depart on May 31, exactly a year after Israeli troops stormed the lead ship and killed nine civilians on the Turkish Mavi Marmara. New reports, however, say the convoy is set to depart in mid-June in consideration of the upcoming Turkish general elections slated for June 12 .

On Monday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pleaded with European ambassadors to prevent the pro-Palestinain Freedom Flotilla from reaching Gaza.

The Israeli government is preparing different options for ways to deal with the flotilla. One possibility under discussion is having the Israel Navy board the ships, inspect them and allow them to sail to the Gaza Strip if they are clear of weaponry. Another possibility is having the ships dock at a foreign port – such as Cyprus – where they would be inspected and, if found clear of weapons, be allowed to sail to the Gaza Strip.

"We want to avoid a confrontation with the ships since it is obvious that the organizers want a provocation and media attention," one senior IDF officer said.

The deadly May 2010 raid on the Gaza flotilla killed nine Turkish activists, causing global outrage for what some said was unnecessary violence. A United Nations Human Rights Council mission ruled in September that Israel used "totally unnecessary violence" and an "unacceptable level of brutality."

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[geriatrickid]

Prior to this becoming one of the usual hate filled threads that necessitates parental intervention I hope people take into consideration the intelligent solutions suggested by Israel;

1. The transportation of humanitarian aid into Gaza through the legal channels. (even though the quota for 220 trucks apparently cannot even be filled as there is no need for more aid.) or;

2. Agreeing to allow the Israel Navy to board the ships, inspect them and then sail to the Gaza Strip if they are clear of weaponry or;

3. Having the ships dock at a foreign port such as Cyprus where they would be inspected and, if found clear of weapons, then sail to the Gaza Strip.

This would avoid violence and confrontation. If the intent is to deliver aid, then surely one of the three options will be acceptable.

[Jingthing]

The intention is to deliver anti-Israeli propaganda.

[flying]

Prior to this becoming one of the usual hate filled threads that necessitates parental intervention I hope people take into consideration the intelligent solutions suggested by Israel;

With all due respect...You are assuming two things....

1) That Israel has a legal right to the blockade

2) That anyone who disagrees with Israel's assumed legality automatically is a hater of some kind? The world is not so black & white.

The Gaza Freedom Flotilla and International Law

Andrew Sanger

University of Cambridge

Yearbook of International Humanitarian Law, Vol. 13, June 2011

Abstract:

This paper examines the interception of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla from the perspective of international law, and in doing so, considers three pivotal sets of questions: (1) Does Israel have a prima facie right to blockade Gaza? What is the legal basis for this right? What affect, if any, does the characterisation of the Israeli-Hamas conflict have? (2) If Israel does have a prima facie right to blockade Gaza, is the blockade legally constituted and maintained? What factors are taken into consideration? And finally, (3) can Israel lawfully intercept vessels on the high seas without permission of the flag-state? In what circumstances, and under what conditions, can Israel undertake such an operation? Did Israel act lawfully when it intercepted the Flotilla vessels?

Number of Pages in PDF File: 36

Download available here

Edited April 14, 2011 by flying

[Ulysses G.]

Common sense about the flotilla:

[kuffki]

Prior to this becoming one of the usual hate filled threads that necessitates parental intervention I hope people take into consideration the intelligent solutions suggested by Israel;

With all due respect...You are assuming two things....

1) That Israel has a legal right to the blockade

2) That anyone who disagrees with Israel's assumed legality automatically is a hater of some kind? The world is not so black & white.

The Gaza Freedom Flotilla and International Law

Andrew Sanger

University of Cambridge

Yearbook of International Humanitarian Law, Vol. 13, June 2011

Abstract:

This paper examines the interception of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla from the perspective of international law, and in doing so, considers three pivotal sets of questions: (1) Does Israel have a prima facie right to blockade Gaza? What is the legal basis for this right? What affect, if any, does the characterisation of the Israeli-Hamas conflict have? (2) If Israel does have a prima facie right to blockade Gaza, is the blockade legally constituted and maintained? What factors are taken into consideration? And finally, (3) can Israel lawfully intercept vessels on the high seas without permission of the flag-state? In what circumstances, and under what conditions, can Israel undertake such an operation? Did Israel act lawfully when it intercepted the Flotilla vessels?

Number of Pages in PDF File: 36

Download available here

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By the way who is Andrew Sanger?

[flying]

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Sorry link does not seem to allow linking

I will attach it since it is small

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PS: Sorry you also asked who is Andrew Sanger

http://www.law.cam.ac.uk/people/research-students/andrew-sanger/123

Edited April 14, 2011 by flying

[Steely Dan]

Gaza has about the highest per capita total of foreign aid on earth, what could they possibly be lacking, slimming pills?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_Palestinians

[flying]

Gaza has about the highest per capita total of foreign aid on earth, what could they possibly be lacking, slimming pills?

For some reason the lyrics...Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage

If you were caged & I gave you tons of aid.... all the while keeping you in said cage would you be satisfied? Or would you feel you were lacking....something?

[Steely Dan]

Hmmm Crew representing over fifty Countries! I wonder how many other ships can boast such an (ahem) international mixture. This more than anything gives the game away that this is nothing but a propaganda exercise; I'm sure the organizers would dream of a scenario involving corpses representinng said nations bobbing up and down in the med.

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[Pakboong]

Attempting to run this blockade is stupid and beyond dangerous. A death wish comes to mind.

But, with that said, forced occupation of another tribe's, historical homeland is also inherently dangerous. The right or wrong of it is irrelevant, it is dangerous and will remain dangerous for quite some time. Long after the weaker tribe submits.

Edited April 14, 2011 by Pakboong

[midas]

Gaza has about the highest per capita total of foreign aid on earth, what could they possibly be lacking, slimming pills?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_Palestinians

but even with foreign aid they still cant get so many things like corriander........oh and chocolate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8654337.stm

[Ulysses G.]

Gaza has about the highest per capita total of foreign aid on earth, what could they possibly be lacking, slimming pills?

http://en.wikipedia....to_Palestinians

but even with foreign aid they still cant get so many things like corriander........oh and chocolate

That is an old report and the list has been loosened considerably since then and chocolates are freely available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL3PlJxhIuk&feature=related

Edited April 14, 2011 by Ulysses G.

[bonobo]

Once again, keep the post on the topic at hand and not on other posters.

[midas]

talking about being disingenuous i laughed when i read this

" Speaking at a lunch with EU heads of mission in Jerusalem, Netanyahu said stopping the flotilla from heading to the coastal territory was a “common interest” for Israel and Europe."

oh sure just look at the number of European countries that will be participating :-

http://gazafreedommarch.org/cms/en/appeals/flotilla/endorse-flotilla.aspx

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[Jingthing]

1300 people from 43 countries. Nothing about European GOVERNMENTS there. Please refrain from blatant distortions, OK? I could get 1300 people from 43 countries to endorse making strawberries illegal. Wonders of the internet.

[midas]

1300 people from 43 countries. Nothing about European GOVERNMENTS there. Please refrain from blatant distortions, OK? I could get 1300 people from 43 countries to endorse making strawberries illegal. Wonders of the internet.

ok if it is only a question of numbers no problem !

Lets put it to the vote! We can have an international or EU referendum on this matter !

entitled " Who supports the flotilla " ?

Israel wouldn't dare

Edited April 14, 2011 by midas

[Scott]

The bickering and off-topic remarks will cease or holidays will be issued.

Please re-read the OP and stick to the topic.

[Scott]

This topic is closed for cleaning.

[Scott]

A lot of posts have been deleted. We'll give it one more try. Please stay on topic.

[Steely Dan]

Gaza has about the highest per capita total of foreign aid on earth, what could they possibly be lacking, slimming pills?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_Palestinians

but even with foreign aid they still cant get so many things like corriander........oh and chocolate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8654337.stm

Funny you should mention the Beeb, but did you know they commissioned an independent report investigating whether they had an anti-Israel bias. The findings of the report they refused to then reveal and have spent an estimated 200,000 pounds to keep the contents of the report buried.

Here is more on Fat Gaza, let them eat cake, fallafel, kebabs, etc etc.

[midas]

Gaza has about the highest per capita total of foreign aid on earth, what could they possibly be lacking, slimming pills?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_Palestinians

but even with foreign aid they still cant get so many things like corriander........oh and chocolate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8654337.stm

Funny you should mention the Beeb, but did you know they commissioned an independent report investigating whether they had an anti-Israel bias. The findings of the report they refused to then reveal and have spent an estimated 200,000 pounds to keep the contents of the report buried.

Here is more on Fat Gaza, let them eat cake, fallafel, kebabs, etc etc.

This video clip proves nothing ? it is pure and simple propaganda by Israel ?

It was released by " Fuel for Truth " ( http://www.fuelfortruth.org/ )

which describes itself as :-

" Fuel For Truth equips young Americans with the basic skills and facts necessary to advocate on behalf of Israel and the United States. Americans, Israelis, and citizens of all democratic nations must work together to combat the threats to our beloved societies, in whatever form they take."

and

Fuel For Truth was born in the days following September 11, 2001 by a group of young, secular Jewish men under the age of 30.

NEXT !

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[kuffki]

Gaza has about the highest per capita total of foreign aid on earth, what could they possibly be lacking, slimming pills?

http://en.wikipedia....to_Palestinians

but even with foreign aid they still cant get so many things like corriander........oh and chocolate

http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/8654337.stm

Funny you should mention the Beeb, but did you know they commissioned an independent report investigating whether they had an anti-Israel bias. The findings of the report they refused to then reveal and have spent an estimated 200,000 pounds to keep the contents of the report buried.

Here is more on Fat Gaza, let them eat cake, fallafel, kebabs, etc etc.

This video clip proves nothing ? it is pure and simple propaganda by Israel ?

It was released by " Fuel for Truth " ( http://www.fuelfortruth.org/ )

which describes itself as :-

" Fuel For Truth equips young Americans with the basic skills and facts necessary to advocate on behalf of Israel and the United States. Americans, Israelis, and citizens of all democratic nations must work together to combat the threats to our beloved societies, in whatever form they take."

and

Fuel For Truth was born in the days following September 11, 2001 by a group of young, secular Jewish men under the age of 30.

NEXT !

Please provide proof of otherwise?

[midas]

[

Here is more on Fat Gaza, let them eat cake, fallafel, kebabs, etc etc.

This video clip proves nothing ? it is pure and simple propaganda by Israel ?

It was released by " Fuel for Truth " ( http://www.fuelfortruth.org/ )

which describes itself as :-

" Fuel For Truth equips young Americans with the basic skills and facts necessary to advocate on behalf of Israel and the United States. Americans, Israelis, and citizens of all democratic nations must work together to combat the threats to our beloved societies, in whatever form they take."

and

Fuel For Truth was born in the days following September 11, 2001 by a group of young, secular Jewish men under the age of 30.

NEXT !

Please provide proof of otherwise?

surely you can't be that slow ? It is at the end of the clip

[kuffki]

[

Here is more on Fat Gaza, let them eat cake, fallafel, kebabs, etc etc.

This video clip proves nothing ? it is pure and simple propaganda by Israel ?

It was released by " Fuel for Truth " ( http://www.fuelfortruth.org/ )

which describes itself as :-

" Fuel For Truth equips young Americans with the basic skills and facts necessary to advocate on behalf of Israel and the United States. Americans, Israelis, and citizens of all democratic nations must work together to combat the threats to our beloved societies, in whatever form they take."

and

Fuel For Truth was born in the days following September 11, 2001 by a group of young, secular Jewish men under the age of 30.

NEXT !

Please provide proof of otherwise?

surely you can't be that slow ? It is at the end of the clip

You just posted that the video is nothing but propaganda and nothing in it is true, so please provide evidence to support your claim and show us another video of life in Gaza

Simple question that requires simple answer, NOT an answer with another question

[Scott]

This is the last reminder before some people get a posting holiday. The topic is about the flotilla. It is NOT about anything else.

[midas]

Here is more on Fat Gaza, let them eat cake, fallafel, kebabs, etc etc.

This video clip proves nothing ? it is pure and simple propaganda by Israel ?

It was released by " Fuel for Truth " ( http://www.fuelfortruth.org/ )

which describes itself as :-

" Fuel For Truth equips young Americans with the basic skills and facts necessary to advocate on behalf of Israel and the United States. Americans, Israelis, and citizens of all democratic nations must work together to combat the threats to our beloved societies, in whatever form they take."

and

Fuel For Truth was born in the days following September 11, 2001 by a group of young, secular Jewish men under the age of 30.

NEXT !

surely you can't be that slow ? It is at the end of the clip

You just posted that the video is nothing but propaganda and nothing in it is true, so please provide evidence to support your claim and show us another video of life in Gaza

Simple question that requires simple answer, NOT an answer with another question

Oh i think people are grown up enough to form their own opinions

[Credo]

What type of humanitarian aid will be on the flotilla?

[Steely Dan]

This video clip proves nothing ? it is pure and simple propaganda by Israel ?

It was released by " Fuel for Truth " ( http://www.fuelfortruth.org/ )

which describes itself as :-

" Fuel For Truth equips young Americans with the basic skills and facts necessary to advocate on behalf of Israel and the United States. Americans, Israelis, and citizens of all democratic nations must work together to combat the threats to our beloved societies, in whatever form they take."

and

Fuel For Truth was born in the days following September 11, 2001 by a group of young, secular Jewish men under the age of 30.

NEXT !

Please provide proof of otherwise?

He can't seeing as the World Health Organization that famous Zionist propaganda body was the source for the obesity stats.

I'm surprised the Israelis aren't being accused of fattening up the Gazans to be eaten... though watch this space as no doubt some middle eastern media will think of this angle.

[Ulysses G.]

There are about a million "propaganda" videos and photos on the Internet from a variety of sources showing plenty of food in Gaza without any flotilla. Facts are facts.