Crackdown On Internet Cafes And On-line Games

[leezer]

Addiction is a problem, i myself am a recovering addict and yes the frist thing i was addicted to was video games. I then discovered the joys of drugs and enjoyed them very much. Eventually it all went pear shaped and i went looking for help and thank god am ok today. But to say that it was video games that cause my problem is not true. I personaly believe i am an addict and ANYTHING i can escape into could cause a potenal problem for ME.

Does this mean that all the people who can take one drink, smoke a joint, play a game, ect....... should be prevented from doing this, because a very small number of people like me may develop a problem. Of course not, addiction is a complacted disease that affects many different people in many differnt ways. Prohabition DOES NOT WORK. IMHO The only thing that can be done is to insure there is help available for people when it all goes wrong.

TJ

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L'dOL until i peed my pants. tj, i can tell by your pic and text that you are 'okay today.' thank god.

[Martin]

At least the problem is being brought to public attention. After about 45 posts, somebody finally mentioned 'moderation'.

Moderation in all things, including moderation.

It was our needs to satisfy our addictions that brought my wife and me together.

(She is addicted to mothering, and I am addicted to being mothered.)

((Don't bother posting the obvious reply!!!!))

[TAWP]

Its pretty well known that TV does cause learning issues, keep in mind that programs on tv as well as video games are "designed" to hook poeple in.

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Since you claim that 'TV' (not a specific type of programs) are causing 'learning issues' and that this is 'pretty well known', I'm assuming you have linked any sources in your post.

Oh...you didn't. Why could that be?

[sriracha john]

It was our needs to satisfy our addictions that brought my wife and me together.

(She is addicted to mothering, and I am addicted to being mothered.)

((Don't bother posting the obvious reply!!!!))

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Fair enough, we'll just leave that to TV's resident "psychologist" van zam to sort out for you...

[sajal]

Its pretty well known that TV does cause learning issues, keep in mind that programs on tv as well as video games are "designed" to hook poeple in.

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its not well known but a fact that TV does help me learn. discovery/national geographic channel....

anyone watched the southpark episode "towlie" ;-)

[sriracha john]

Its pretty well known that TV does cause learning issues, keep in mind that programs on tv as well as video games are "designed" to hook poeple in.

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its not well known but a fact that TV does help me learn. discovery/national geographic channel....

The opposite side of that however is revealed after an exhaustive research project that was recently completed. The results were just published and is the collective work of a large team of world-recognized scientists from all the major fields of study. They categorically concluded that watching the Fox News channel unquestionably lowers someone's intelligence and increases illogical and irrational thinking.

[penzman]

They are addictive, and they play them into their thirties.

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Forties as well and I don't plan on quitting soon.

[sajal]

Its pretty well known that TV does cause learning issues, keep in mind that programs on tv as well as video games are "designed" to hook poeple in.

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its not well known but a fact that TV does help me learn. discovery/national geographic channel....

The opposite side of that however is revealed after an exhaustive research project that was recently completed. The results were just published and is the collective work of a large team of world-recognized scientists from all the major fields of study. They categorically concluded that watching the Fox News channel unquestionably lowers someone's intelligence and increases illogical and irrational thinking.

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totally agree....

fox news is really shit....

but the blaming TV is just not the answer....

fox news has all the right to show the bullshit they show.....its upto the viewers now to watch news 'unquestionably'

[johng]

The measures include registration of Internet cafes or on-line game shops, as that applied to clinics and drugstores

Does anyone happen to have a link to this news story in Thai ??

Internet cafes = clinics and drugstores...seems a bit extreme to me maybe a mis-translation ?

Though I have seen a drugstore that is also an internet cafe

[sajal]

The measures include registration of Internet cafes or on-line game shops, as that applied to clinics and drugstores

Does anyone happen to have a link to this news story in Thai ??

Internet cafes = clinics and drugstores...seems a bit extreme to me maybe a mis-translation ?

Though I have seen a drugstore that is also an internet cafe

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seen one on asoke road.....

it was a drug store + cyber cafe + parking lot (saw a car parked inside)../....

car park in a drug store....

[Gazza]

New ministerial regulation to control on-line games 

"Prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra told the cabinet that when he visited people in various areas he had heard lots of parents’ complaints about their kids' addiction to on-line games;

What a load of cockshite! Parents asking HIM....to do something about their own children? Don't make me laugh!

Thaksin used his very own kids to hide his assets away when investigated and can only teach his own son the procedures involved when getting caught cheating on exams.

And if Thaksy thinks games are addictive then he needs to have a Lightning spell cast on him quickly followed by a 7 hit-super combo to the chops. That'll not only bring his HP down but should knock some sense into him too.

[Wolfie]

And if Thaksy thinks games are addictive then he needs to have a Lightning spell cast on him quickly followed by a 7 hit-super combo to the chops. That'll not only bring his HP down but should knock some sense into him too. 

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P.S. Dont forget to loot him after for that Uber cheque book!

[RDN]

And if Thaksy thinks games are addictive then he needs to have a Lightning spell cast on him quickly followed by a 7 hit-super combo to the chops. That'll not only bring his HP down but should knock some sense into him too. 

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P.S. Dont forget to loot him after for that Uber cheque book!

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Are YOU addicted, Wolfie?

[tripperj]

Addiction is a problem, i myself am a recovering addict and yes the frist thing i was addicted to was video games. I then discovered the joys of drugs and enjoyed them very much. Eventually it all went pear shaped and i went looking for help and thank god am ok today. But to say that it was video games that cause my problem is not true. I personaly believe i am an addict and ANYTHING i can escape into could cause a potenal problem for ME.

Does this mean that all the people who can take one drink, smoke a joint, play a game, ect....... should be prevented from doing this, because a very small number of people like me may develop a problem. Of course not, addiction is a complacted disease that affects many different people in many differnt ways. Prohabition DOES NOT WORK. IMHO The only thing that can be done is to insure there is help available for people when it all goes wrong.

TJ

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Let me get this straight, you used to play alot of video games, an "adict even", and then you started a hardcore drug addiction?

And you are not sure which of these addictions screwed up your life?

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My point is that as a kid i was "addicted " to playing vidieo games, then as i got older i discovered drug's. Video games went out the window. My point was that I am an addict, it doesn't really matter what i use, if i'm using it to escape from reality, it becomes a problem. Addiction is not spasific to a substance or a behavour, it is an inability to deal with ur life. The problem is not the video game, drugs or anything else, they are the solution to the problem. When they stop working you move on to the next solution. So removing video games does not stop the addict being an addict they will just move on to something else. So the best way to deal with addiction problem is not pohibiting what they are addicted to but helping them learn to live life on lifes term with out trying to escape.

tj

[tripperj]

Addiction is a problem, i myself am a recovering addict and yes the frist thing i was addicted to was video games. I then discovered the joys of drugs and enjoyed them very much. Eventually it all went pear shaped and i went looking for help and thank god am ok today. But to say that it was video games that cause my problem is not true. I personaly believe i am an addict and ANYTHING i can escape into could cause a potenal problem for ME.

Does this mean that all the people who can take one drink, smoke a joint, play a game, ect....... should be prevented from doing this, because a very small number of people like me may develop a problem. Of course not, addiction is a complacted disease that affects many different people in many differnt ways. Prohabition DOES NOT WORK. IMHO The only thing that can be done is to insure there is help available for people when it all goes wrong.

TJ

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L'dOL until i peed my pants. tj, i can tell by your pic and text that you are 'okay today.' thank god.

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Yip, i'm fine today, no matter what the voices in my head try and tell me.

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Playing games is better than doing drugs

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yeah !

and doing drugs - better than .... killing people !

[leezer]

Addiction is a problem, i myself am a recovering addict and yes the frist thing i was addicted to was video games. I then discovered the joys of drugs and enjoyed them very much. Eventually it all went pear shaped and i went looking for help and thank god am ok today. But to say that it was video games that cause my problem is not true. I personaly believe i am an addict and ANYTHING i can escape into could cause a potenal problem for ME.

Does this mean that all the people who can take one drink, smoke a joint, play a game, ect....... should be prevented from doing this, because a very small number of people like me may develop a problem. Of course not, addiction is a complacted disease that affects many different people in many differnt ways. Prohabition DOES NOT WORK. IMHO The only thing that can be done is to insure there is help available for people when it all goes wrong.

TJ

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L'dOL until i peed my pants. tj, i can tell by your pic and text that you are 'okay today.' thank god.

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Yip, i'm fine today, no matter what the voices in my head try and tell me.

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belly laughing again and i'm not even out of bed. tj, i have to tell ya man, your photo is a trip; thanks for making my day!

leezer

xo

[thaibebop]

Playing games is better than doing drugs

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yeah !

and doing drugs - better than .... killing people !

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Who said anything about killing people? Where did you get that,a?

[silk123]

So anyone recommend any good games?

[silk123]

Really, the government is trying to take control from parents now about this.

Is this Chinavisa.com?

Battlefield 2 is great.

[tracer]

I thought they did this last year already? (at least as far as Internet Cafes and online gaming is concerned...)

Anyway - I'm sure there's a generational divide here..., where those under 40 (who grew up with Atari or Nintendo are wondering what the fuss is about - after all they turned out OK, and those over 40 don't think it's healthy for kids to be sitting inside all the time on a computer...

Personally - I think I'd prefer children to be addicted to games than anything else at their age...

However, some of the characters hanging around at some of the Internet Cafes may not make the best peer models..., I don't see a few hours a week as an issue - but  every day in that sort of company is probably not a good thing... (just don't blame it on the games...)

Blaming online gaming for the not particularly nice vibe you get from some internet cafes is like blaming snooker for the bad vibe you get at some snooker halls. The game itself is not the problem...

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Having a computer business my kids have obviously computers and yes they play on line via adsl. So do I but not on line with as main reason I more like to see the logic/programming of them and once thats satisfied, stuff the game.

I also made sure they have a PS emulator so can go and buy these cd's for playstation and to my surprise most of what they get are those little monsters gardening etc... See nothing wrong in that. However as many of my friends agree with, its a whole lot cheaper to have them play games then having them run amok in bars and other places..... Besides they can hardly play and be drunk/doped and fight at the same time! The great pity in my opinion is that the old cheap home computers donot exist anymore as they were marvelous training tools, cheap etc...

Remember Comodore, Sinclair, BBC home PC... Simple enough for a kid to get smart at it quick.

[expatinasia]

It's depressing to read the number of households that are controlled by children, and the number of parents that abrogated their parenting responsibilities onto teachers and the government. Why Thailand wants to emulate the worse of Western society is beyond me.

[yesduhh]

Let's see: parents don't want their kids to play video games. Why don't they act like parents and tell them "no, or else...!"

--"a real parent"

New ministerial regulation to control on-line games 

BANGKOK: --  The cabinet has approved an Interior Ministry proposal on drafting a new ministerial regulation to control computer on-line games, aiming to solve problems caused by children’s addiction to the electronic games.

Government Spokesman Surapong Suebwonglee said after Tuesday's cabinet weekly meeting that Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-Ngam, as a law expert, has been assigned by the cabinet to supervise the drafting of the regulation, which is to provide strict and integrated measures in solving the on-line games-related problems.

"The measures include registration of Internet cafes or on-line game shops, as that applied to clinics and drugstores; otherwise they cannot provide services," he told journalists here.

Dr. Suraponng said that the proposed ministerial regulation would be used as a legal tool to control a wide range of computer materials in various forms, including video games, laser discs, digital radio discs, CD– ROMs, hard discs, and similar others that are  easily accessible to children who tend to be addicted to.

Many studies suggest that playing much of video or on-line games causes adverse effects to children, especially on their physical, mental and emotional health.

For some cases, violence in the games  can lead  to children’s aggressive behaviors

The government spokesman said that Mr. Wissanu would soon call a meeting of

experts from agencies concerned, namely the Interior, Culture, and  Information and Communication Technology Ministries to brainstorm in drafting the regulation and then submit it to the Office of the Council of State for a quick revision.

"It is believed that the new regulation will be an effective measure that can solve the kids’ addiction to on-line games. It’s a serious problem in our society now," he told journalists.

"Prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra told the cabinet that when he visited people in various areas he had heard lots of parents’ complaints about their kids' addiction to on-line games; so the prime minister instructed the Interior  Ministry to find solutions to the problem’, said the government spokesman.

--TNA 2005-09-28

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[OZONE]

When I'd finished laughing, I realised that it's just another case of the underpriveleged getting the short end of the stick again. Naturally the minister's son will still have his "X Box" and be able to play on line with his super quick ADSL connection that daddy pays for

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Oh stop it. You know better than that ! . Daddy (prime minister) never pays for anything he demands it and it becomes his

[baht&sold]

Playing online games can lead to a psychological addiction in children under 15-16, this can seriously affect development and cause adverse social behaviour.

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Ok, my turn on the 'couch' Doc VZ, carry your argument fwd and transfer it to adult male first timers to Thailand... now watcha gonna do?

BTW, I still have the top donkey kong score of all time and i turned out ok

Seriously, as a professional, don't you think kids are just fine and this is simply another present day social interaction and mostly harmless norm? Every generation has had a similar vice of one sort or another afterall.

[Martin]

It is sensible of parents (who are seeing their kids being tempted, or propelled by peer pressure, into spending excessive time playing these games) to ask their government to regulate the availability of this provision.

All societies recognise, in some way or other, that the sins (or poverty) of the parents are visited upon the children, and it is part of the functions of those societies' governments to try to ameliorate this for unfortunate children.

Just as there is a happy medium between life at its rawest in the jungle and at its most artificial in the cities, so there is a happy medium between government being totally authoritarian and totally libertarian.

I don't think this is an example of a government being excessively authoritarian.

I find the Thailand government to be far less authoritarian than the British one---there, in direct taxes and indirect taxes, the government takes 60% of people's money away from them, and decides how it will be spent for them. I don't know the figure for Thailand, but with VAT at less than half the UK rate, little income tax and very low local-government charges, it must be much less.

[Heng]

I find the Thailand government to be far less authoritarian than the British one---there, in direct taxes and indirect taxes, the government takes 60% of people's money away from them, and decides how it will be spent for them. I don't know the figure for Thailand, but with VAT at less than half the UK rate, little income tax and very low local-government charges, it must be much less.

It's much less. The LOS is effectively a tax haven. Has anyone even heard of an individually being audited (IRS style like in the US)?

[johng]

The future of internet cafe's in Thailand ?