Court Revokes Jatuporn's Bail For Violating Bail Conditions

[geovalin]

So if I summarize, this guy deserves to go in jail but no one can tell why. I still don't know what was the speech of this guy = NO EVIDENCE. It looks like a little bit Stalinist.

Now, to tell the truth, I don't know this guy and I'll not lose my time to defend him.

The only interesting point is that we are at the very beginning of the edge or the dawn of the Thai coming problem. If you are so nervous now, what will happen when the REAL DEBATE will arise?

Thai people are not as dumb as you think, they deserve the FREE SPEECH stuff and they began to discuss the issue and they are far wiser than the farangs, fortunately.

[timekeeper]

็็Jatuporn caused so much trouble to the society. He never learn to compromise nor listen to other reasoning. He can have some times to review his past deed/ karma behind bars now.

Only your personal opinion. Not mine.

perhaps he had a difficult childhood, maybe he was abused or fell in with a bad crowd

we should try to look upon him as a troubled soul who deserves our sympathy rather than condemnation

or

less complicated, lets not bother to try understand him, just leave him where he is ...........

[jdinasia]

So if I summarize, this guy deserves to go in jail but no one can tell why. I still don't know what was the speech of this guy = NO EVIDENCE. It looks like a little bit Stalinist.

Now, to tell the truth, I don't know this guy and I'll not lose my time to defend him.

The only interesting point is that we are at the very beginning of the edge or the dawn of the Thai coming problem. If you are so nervous now, what will happen when the REAL DEBATE will arise?

Thai people are not as dumb as you think, they deserve the FREE SPEECH stuff and they began to discuss the issue and they are far wiser than the farangs, fortunately.

Just because you don't know what was said (and how) does not = "NO EVIDENCE". The speeches were broadcast live, they were recorded. Like stated earlier -- if you think "FREE SPEECH" exists anywhere, please feel free to follow my suggestions posted above.

Please also feel free to ignore the fact that people (important people) left PTP due to Jatuporn's illegal speech These are supposedly guys on his side and who led his political party. Feel free to call it whatever inflammatory words you want to such as "Stalinist" but that doesn't address the issues it just hides behind a false belief that free speech exists anywhere.

[ianbaggie]

Just another example of the lack of free speach in Thailand.

First - you can have bail as long as you don't say anything controversial.

Oops - We heard that, go back to jail.

It seems no one here likes him but crikey trying to lock him up for saying a few things

is just stupid and plays into the hands of those saying they are fighting for freedom.

He'll get more votes than ever now and rightly so. This fear of free speach says it all.

Jatuporn is a 41 year old loudmouth who thinks its smart to badmouth a hospitalized 83 year old man

any other issues aside, he is a morally bereft, disrespectful arsehol_e and he deserves to be exactly where he is

the longer the better

and to anyone who thinks that its OK to do that, in my opinion deserves to be in there with him..........

So if he was younger and in good health it would be ok then?

The principle of free speach is surely extended to those you disagree with or it is meaningless.

What you say about Jatuporn applies to most politicians. Would you put them all in jail?

Your intolerance implies you are not in favour of democracy unless it suits you which makes you irelevant to any meaningful discussion on the matter.

Rubbish!! read a tanscript of this oafs ramblings at Rachaprasong - by the way my Thai wife doesnt like red shirts/Thaksin or PTP and thinks Som Nam Na is a very apt comment for his jailing - so there - from the mouth of a Thai. She also thinks Thaksin will have him out in a jiffy!!

[timekeeper]

So if I summarize, this guy deserves to go in jail but no one can tell why. I still don't know what was the speech of this guy = NO EVIDENCE. It looks like a little bit Stalinist.

Now, to tell the truth, I don't know this guy and I'll not lose my time to defend him.

The only interesting point is that we are at the very beginning of the edge or the dawn of the Thai coming problem. If you are so nervous now, what will happen when the REAL DEBATE will arise?

Thai people are not as dumb as you think, they deserve the FREE SPEECH stuff and they began to discuss the issue and they are far wiser than the farangs, fortunately.

i think you need to backtrack and do some research

he committed LM at a rally, he was recorded doing it

the court heard the recording as evidence , agreed with the findings of DSI and revoked his bail

he broke the law whilst on bail and is now in jail

free speech has nothing to do with it

end of story........

[NoBrainer]

To Somo

Where did you ever get the idea that Thailand has Free Speech? I don't believe it is stated anywhere in law or the constitution.

Not every country in the world has Free Speech, and some for very good reasons.

Any country that makes Slander a criminal offense does not have Free Speech so I suggest you stop whining about it, or move

somewhere you can say whatever you want to (but have to abide by many other stupid laws that we are Free of in Thailand).

Just another example of the lack of free speach in Thailand.

First - you can have bail as long as you don't say anything controversial.

Oops - We heard that, go back to jail.

It seems no one here likes him but crikey trying to lock him up for saying a few things

is just stupid and plays into the hands of those saying they are fighting for freedom.

He'll get more votes than ever now and rightly so. This fear of free speach says it all.

Jatuporn is a 41 year old loudmouth who thinks its smart to badmouth a hospitalized 83 year old man

any other issues aside, he is a morally bereft, disrespectful arsehol_e and he deserves to be exactly where he is

the longer the better

and to anyone who thinks that its OK to do that, in my opinion deserves to be in there with him..........

So if he was younger and in good health it would be ok then?

The principle of free speach is surely extended to those you disagree with or it is meaningless.

What you say about Jatuporn applies to most politicians. Would you put them all in jail?

Your intolerance implies you are not in favour of democracy unless it suits you which makes you irelevant to any meaningful discussion on the matter.

[Insight]

Could some journalist out there please please please interview the woman wearing that "wikileaks" shirt one-on-one for opinions on Assange and his uneasy relationship with the media...?

Or is she wearing it because she was told to?

/edit to add - stupid tossers.

Hi Insight. Don't quite get the "stupid tossers" bit. Please explain.

Some Journalist out there should interview 'Insight' one-on-one for opinions on stupid tossers, Jatuporns bail and what the thai words on the T-shirt say.

Strange that Insight can call people he doesn't know 'stupid tossers' but if anyone - having had the dubious benefit of reading this individual's self-penned personal opinions first - calls Insight a 'stupid tosser' as a result, then that is not considered cricket.

Etiquette is a curious thing.

You guys seem upset. Bless.

[pomeloseed]

Hello, I'm the manager here at Dunkin Donuts near the jail. I just got a call from Dubai from a Thai man who sounded like he was disguising his voice. He asked if he could send a large box of jelly donuts to the head man at the jail. The caller said he'd have someone come over and put an envelope in the donut box, and that I should take payment for the dozen donuts and not tell anyone about...... wait, here's the courier now. So, my question to T.Visa members is: Should I put the donuts in a larger box, because the envelope I'm being handed is quite thick - filled with pieces of paper or something......

[Insight]

"Jatuporn will be the first man in the history of prison life that no other prisoner wants to have sex with": http://bit.ly/kWV97m

What about this fella?

[timekeeper]

Hello, I'm the manager here at Dunkin Donuts near the jail. I just got a call from Dubai from a Thai man who sounded like he was disguising his voice. He asked if he could send a large box of jelly donuts to the head man at the jail. The caller said he'd have someone come over and put an envelope in the donut box, and that I should take payment for the dozen donuts and not tell anyone about...... wait, here's the courier now. So, my question to T.Visa members is: Should I put the donuts in a larger box, because the envelope I'm being handed is quite thick - filled with pieces of paper or something......

nod, look enthusiastic, take the box and envelope, distribute donuts on the way to swampy.........

[csolgosz]

Well light the torches and rampage, the mouth is silenced.

Hard to believe, but then again he knew no sense of moderation and hung himself on his own petard. So one other, Nisit wit, goes with him, and so far other less vitreous voices are still free.

Will this be the good excuse for reds to go over the edge?

If so then most Thais will notice and vote accordingly.

This thread will no doubt fill up to the brim with New Members....

and all with similar lines of... ac cc chemmm, thought.

Where did you go to school?

Haha, I think he refers to... ac cc chemmm, vitreous humour... Mind you, I have seen worse on these forums - strong opinion seems often seems to be expressed with a weak vocabulary, absence of correct punctuation and poor spelling (despite the built-in spell check) and other superfluous traits of Old Members.

[lungmi]

In Germany we have teh

I'm sorry but I'll not shout with the wolves.

I dunno what this Jatu guy told, so it's difficult for all of us to have an opinion.

Anyway, we are speaking about FREE SPEECH. Am I right?

Do you consider that opposition should have a voice in your country (Australia, North America, Old Europe)?

If yes, why should Thais be deprived of FREE SPEECH? D

o you consider that they are not clever enough?

Do you consider that the situations are sooooooooooo different?

I don't think so.

In our western countries also, the FREE SPEECH was not obvious in the past. We fought for that. I respect Thais fighting for that. Now, it does not mean that I agree with their speech.

Even Aung San Suu Kyi is free now.

In Germany we have the right for FREE SPEECH. Excluded are Neo-Nazi speech, Bin Laden addicted propaganda, and speeches calling for BREACHING the PEACE. Where do you put Jatuporn?

Probably not in the same league as Neo-nazis or Osama bin Laden.

Btw. How the Germans call their participation in the war in Afghanistan?

We speak anout free speech.

[mitrapaap]

Without the jail story he wouldn't be allover the news on Thai TV today.

Nothing about Yingluck, but Jatuporn is in the news like seldom before.

Of course he's in the news allover for today. After all, having him where he belongs is probably the best news of this year so far. But I also think he will very fast disappear from the news.

[csolgosz]

Hello, I'm the manager here at Dunkin Donuts near the jail. I just got a call from Dubai from a Thai man who sounded like he was disguising his voice. He asked if he could send a large box of jelly donuts to the head man at the jail. The caller said he'd have someone come over and put an envelope in the donut box, and that I should take payment for the dozen donuts and not tell anyone about...... wait, here's the courier now. So, my question to T.Visa members is: Should I put the donuts in a larger box, because the envelope I'm being handed is quite thick - filled with pieces of paper or something......

nod, look enthusiastic, take the box and envelope, distribute donuts on the way to swampy.........

Hmmmmm... seems like an incredibly well-considered attempt by Sondhi to get bad spirits into the jail which will cause immense suffering to the dreadful red shirt leaders. I bet there are used tampons in there...!

[bangkokeddy]

Just another example of the lack of free speach in Thailand.

First - you can have bail as long as you don't say anything controversial.

Oops - We heard that, go back to jail.

It seems no one here likes him but crikey trying to lock him up for saying a few things

is just stupid and plays into the hands of those saying they are fighting for freedom.

He'll get more votes than ever now and rightly so. This fear of free speach says it all.

Jatuporn is a 41 year old loudmouth who thinks its smart to badmouth a hospitalized 83 year old man

any other issues aside, he is a morally bereft, disrespectful arsehol_e and he deserves to be exactly where he is

the longer the better

and to anyone who thinks that its OK to do that, in my opinion deserves to be in there with him..........

So if he was younger and in good health it would be ok then?

The principle of free speach is surely extended to those you disagree with or it is meaningless.

What you say about Jatuporn applies to most politicians. Would you put them all in jail?

Your intolerance implies you are not in favour of democracy unless it suits you which makes you irelevant to any meaningful discussion on the matter.

Exactly.

[mitrapaap]

To Somo

Where did you ever get the idea that Thailand has Free Speech? I don't believe it is stated anywhere in law or the constitution.

Not every country in the world has Free Speech, and some for very good reasons.

Any country that makes Slander a criminal offense does not have Free Speech so I suggest you stop whining about it, or move

somewhere you can say whatever you want to (but have to abide by many other stupid laws that we are Free of in Thailand).

Just another example of the lack of free speach in Thailand.

First - you can have bail as long as you don't say anything controversial.

Oops - We heard that, go back to jail.

It seems no one here likes him but crikey trying to lock him up for saying a few things

is just stupid and plays into the hands of those saying they are fighting for freedom.

He'll get more votes than ever now and rightly so. This fear of free speach says it all.

Jatuporn is a 41 year old loudmouth who thinks its smart to badmouth a hospitalized 83 year old man

any other issues aside, he is a morally bereft, disrespectful arsehol_e and he deserves to be exactly where he is

the longer the better

and to anyone who thinks that its OK to do that, in my opinion deserves to be in there with him..........

So if he was younger and in good health it would be ok then?

The principle of free speach is surely extended to those you disagree with or it is meaningless.

What you say about Jatuporn applies to most politicians. Would you put them all in jail?

Your intolerance implies you are not in favour of democracy unless it suits you which makes you irelevant to any meaningful discussion on the matter.

What problem do these free speech freaks have? You can say whatever you want in any country - as long as you are willing to take responsibility and accept the consequences. Can I go to US or the UK and tell somebody he is a dammed <deleted>.. assh.. and get away with it, or will I face a lawsuit? There are rules where free speech ends and violation of others basic rights begin. These rules are not everywhere the same, but Fatuporn is Thai and knows the rules perfectly. It's not by braking the law you change it.

[phiphidon]

A clever move by the reds/ PT. Timing is perfect to show up the govt. as not allowing the opposition a voice. Will certainly be good for a few 10's of thousands of votes.

Nothing to do with PTP or red-shirts, it's that British oppressor PM Abhisit who seems to be a closetted red-shirter! He sought Royal agreement to dissolve the House. Because of that k. Jatuporn lost his parliamentary immunity, k. Nisit is just a (minor) UDD leader who seems to have had a big mouth during the April 10th rally.

I feel a bit aggrieved that while others are out in the sticks campaigning, k. Jatuporn is on a government sponsored diet program

Oh come on Rubl, I expect better of you , now you're parroting Bucholzs' lines " government sponsored diet program " - it wasn't even funny the first time round. Next you'll be posting unflattering jpgs of all and sundry wrt the PTP......................

[lungmi]

So if I summarize, this guy deserves to go in jail but no one can tell why. I still don't know what was the speech of this guy = NO EVIDENCE. It looks like a little bit Stalinist.

Now, to tell the truth, I don't know this guy and I'll not lose my time to defend him.

The only interesting point is that we are at the very beginning of the edge or the dawn of the Thai coming problem. If you are so nervous now, what will happen when the REAL DEBATE will arise?

Thai people are not as dumb as you think, they deserve the FREE SPEECH stuff and they began to discuss the issue and they are far wiser than the farangs, fortunately.

Free speech Jatuporn had it too long time. to breach the peace, Now he has free speech in he jail. May be he can convince some inmates to fight for democracy.

[tigermonkey]

He maybe party list he maybe constituency, he maybe the easter bunny, but he surely is a hardcore recidivist, with no respect for the laws that don't benefit him, even by Thai standards

He is absolutely where he belongs. I am hoping they deny bail until his trial on the APril 10th 2011 charges (should be a fast and easy court case!) Then he can wait in jail until the AG is ready to push the terrorism charges through.

Please enlighten us all. To the best of my knowlege his bail was revoked /denied because of remarks he made on April 10 . This related to earlier charges of terrorism. Can you please tell us about these new " APril 10th 2011 charges" . Do you have insider information that he is now charged concerning those remarks on April 10 ?

Edited May 12, 2011 by tigermonkey

[somo]

Just another example of the lack of free speach in Thailand.

First - you can have bail as long as you don't say anything controversial.

Oops - We heard that, go back to jail.

It seems no one here likes him but crikey trying to lock him up for saying a few things

is just stupid and plays into the hands of those saying they are fighting for freedom.

He'll get more votes than ever now and rightly so. This fear of free speach says it all.

Jatuporn is a 41 year old loudmouth who thinks its smart to badmouth a hospitalized 83 year old man

any other issues aside, he is a morally bereft, disrespectful arsehol_e and he deserves to be exactly where he is

the longer the better

and to anyone who thinks that its OK to do that, in my opinion deserves to be in there with him..........

So if he was younger and in good health it would be ok then?

The principle of free speach is surely extended to those you disagree with or it is meaningless.

What you say about Jatuporn applies to most politicians. Would you put them all in jail?

Your intolerance implies you are not in favour of democracy unless it suits you which makes you irelevant to any meaningful discussion on the matter.

Rubbish!! read a tanscript of this oafs ramblings at Rachaprasong - by the way my Thai wife doesnt like red shirts/Thaksin or PTP and thinks Som Nam Na is a very apt comment for his jailing - so there - from the mouth of a Thai. She also thinks Thaksin will have him out in a jiffy!!

So your wife agrees with you, how fascinatinating.

[somo]

To Somo

Where did you ever get the idea that Thailand has Free Speech? I don't believe it is stated anywhere in law or the constitution.

Not every country in the world has Free Speech, and some for very good reasons.

Any country that makes Slander a criminal offense does not have Free Speech so I suggest you stop whining about it, or move

somewhere you can say whatever you want to (but have to abide by many other stupid laws that we are Free of in Thailand).

Just another example of the lack of free speach in Thailand.

First - you can have bail as long as you don't say anything controversial.

Oops - We heard that, go back to jail.

It seems no one here likes him but crikey trying to lock him up for saying a few things

is just stupid and plays into the hands of those saying they are fighting for freedom.

He'll get more votes than ever now and rightly so. This fear of free speach says it all.

Jatuporn is a 41 year old loudmouth who thinks its smart to badmouth a hospitalized 83 year old man

any other issues aside, he is a morally bereft, disrespectful arsehol_e and he deserves to be exactly where he is

the longer the better

and to anyone who thinks that its OK to do that, in my opinion deserves to be in there with him..........

So if he was younger and in good health it would be ok then?

The principle of free speach is surely extended to those you disagree with or it is meaningless.

What you say about Jatuporn applies to most politicians. Would you put them all in jail?

Your intolerance implies you are not in favour of democracy unless it suits you which makes you irelevant to any meaningful discussion on the matter.

Where did I say there was free speach here. Please read again:-

"Just another example of the lack of free speach in Thailand"

[rreddin]

= bias

Welcome to the anti-Thaksin/UDD pro-PAD part of the forum. As you may already have noticed, some people here are suspicious new members - unless of course they have the same views bias. You will get used to that.

[phiphidon]

I'm sorry but I'll not shout with the wolves.

I dunno what this Jatu guy told, so it's difficult for all of us to have an opinion.

Anyway, we are speaking about FREE SPEECH. Am I right?

Do you consider that opposition should have a voice in your country (Australia, North America, Old Europe)?

If yes, why should Thais be deprived of FREE SPEECH? D

o you consider that they are not clever enough?

Do you consider that the situations are sooooooooooo different?

I don't think so.

In our western countries also, the FREE SPEECH was not obvious in the past. We fought for that. I respect Thais fighting for that. Now, it does not mean that I agree with their speech.

Even Aung San Suu Kyi is free now.

In most countries, there are still lines you don't cross with FREE SPEECH.

Incitement to riot, incitement to commit murder will land you in jail in many western countries.

far less than that in UK

simply shouting insults in certain situations will see you in the hands of the boys in blue

Is that meant to be an argument for or against free speech?

[Pawpcorn]

JESUS, I feel like my life has gone full circle... like I've SEEN and HEARD EVERYTHING now!!!

Unbelievable!!!

Now all we need are pictures of this bozo, in prison garb, for that sense of final closure...

[MAJIC]

Looks like Jatuporns abuse of his Parliamentary Immunity has just run out.

Tough Luck!

[phiphidon]

expected to campaign from his cell.

Just thinking of him blabbering and making faces and arm gestures behind bars makes me laugh. I was hoping that he would be Thaksin's chosen candidate for PM, it would have been two months of good entertainment.

preview of his campaigning.......

The standard of debate on here just keeps going up and up.......................

[lungmi]

Rubbish!! read a tanscript of this oafs ramblings at Rachaprasong - by the way my Thai wife doesnt like red shirts/Thaksin or PTP and thinks Som Nam Na is a very apt comment for his jailing - so there - from the mouth of a Thai. She also thinks Thaksin will have him out in a jiffy!!

So your wife agrees with you, how fascinatinating.

Accept that women in Thailand have their brain, even more then posters here.

[Arkady]

Jatuporn, a Pheu Thai Party list candidate seeking reelection bid, is expected to campaign from his cell.

This raises the opportunity to ask at least a dozen commissions and courts if and how a jailed person can or may campaign. Like when k. Kokaew was made to stand for PTP last year. Only this time taking things a bit more serious

Jatuporn will be on the PT party list. So he can get a seat without campaigning. Maybe PT paid under the table to have his bail revoked, so he won't torpedo their chances with his big mouth. He won't be able to vote in the house, if he is still in jail when it convenes again.

[phiphidon]

Anyone have a transcript of what he actually said during the rally, i'm curious to see it

+I believe it was something along the lines of "go - burn it down tell them I sent you - tell them to come for me" Now they have - tell him to keep a bed warm for Thaksin

You believe wrong. Wrong Rally, wrong person, but don't let that get in the way of your beliefs.

[jdinasia]

The standard of debate on here just keeps going up and up.......................

When people post one-liners like this and your last one, you certainly can't be accused of raising the bar any ....

Jatuporn is in jail. The fact that he was given so much slack for so long, and the fact that he wasn't impeached speaks volumes about just how far "free speech" is tolerated in Thailand. He crossed the line so many times that with the sentencing/imprisonment of many PAD folks over the last 4 months, that it may be Jatuporn's turn in the barrel. I expect he'll get a lot longer than most others to think about his various crimes.