Ijustwannateach Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 This idea is as silly as it is repugnant. As soon as you block those 5 million, they create 5 million other names and you have to start over... or there's email... or proxies... or... Even China couldn't do it, and they're much more competent at repression. I don't think Thai youth are going to much appreciate their one main form of escapism being hassled in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billshot64 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 What is the Thai PM doing block the porn website but at every market you can buy porn CD’s. Why is he not working about the Muslim Separatist? In the south now thy fighting the next thy want married Thai girls so that thy can spread like a bird flu virus. What is he doing about HIV he can’t stop spreading HIV by blocking porn web site’s. What is he doing about illegal guns there are many Thai people that run around whit a gun and thy have already kill farangs. The men that wrote it is free for us to go but does he know what the Thai queen wrote That the Thai people must more take care off the farangs because we spend our money here. And many farangs take care off Thai families so if we go where is Thailand then thy need again money from the EMF. But it is Amazing Thailand. billshot64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaideeguy Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 thaivisa better watch out or they could be blocked by 'big brother' for just being the 'devil's advocate'. LOS is fast becomming a police/military state and we better watch out or they may next crackdown on the 'users' of certain websites. Maybe it's time for another revolt?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 to the posters who worry about porn being available...... get a life To the posters who worry about censorship..... thanks for being cool....... porn might be okay to certain people who have an inadequate sex life and need something else to stimulate them...... but mass censorship is NOT ON. By the way..... I feel sorry for the guys out there that can't get it up without porn ...... SAD very sad...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajarn_Jonesy Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 But it seems that M. PM doesn't know that any website will be forever available with a good proxy! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Until they block the proxy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That would take some real efffort, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 okay so semi ignorant female asking a question.... what is proxy in this context please?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajarn_Jonesy Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 you're all ning nongsthis is misdirection it is about control of the internet and freedom of speech you seem to be running off like chickens without heads as soon as a debatable subject comes up its not about rape of images of sexual nature its about controlling ALL content get it right then from this perspective look at what it will be like ni a few years time <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BlackJack Right on spot. More and More countries are adopting the chinese way of censorship.... Its about controlling people, invasion of privacy and so many other issues... Politicians are trying to censor the right of freedom of speech. And its going to come back to bite them in the *(&% !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 ajarn jonsey can you tell me what proxy means in this context please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 waiting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajarn_Jonesy Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 waiting...... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A proxy server is a kind of buffer between your computer and the Internet resources you are accessing. They accumulate and save files that are most often requested by thousands of Internet users in a special database, called “cache”. Therefore, proxy servers are able to increase the speed of your connection to the Internet. The cache of a proxy server may already contain information you need by the time of your request, making it possible for the proxy to deliver it immediately. The overall increase in performance may be very high. Also, proxy servers can help in cases when some owners of the Internet resources impose some restrictions on users from certain countries or geographical regions. In addition to that, among proxy servers there are so called anonymous proxy servers that hide your IP address thereby saving you from vulnerabilities concerned with it. Prox's CAN however be blocked as well Hope that helps.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seonai Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 thanks Ajarn, I am a bit naive when it comes to these techno things I will try to understand the whole thing.... Seonai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajarn_Jonesy Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 thanks Ajarn, I am a bit naive when it comes to these techno thingsI will try to understand the whole thing.... Seonai <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another way of looking at it.. Think of it like MAS Transit, You are on the freeway and there is road construction so you have to take a detour. The Proxy in essance provides a detour to get to the site that you are looking for. Therefore creating a new way to get to blocked sites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Porn isn't the only issue here. The real threat is the other offensive material they censor when a "clampdown" entitles them to hire load more "professional" net watchers who spend all day passing judgement on what is "appropriate". Having worked in newsrooms before, I can assure you that the keyboard crunchers know instinctively what to censor without any accountable person having to spell it out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Absolutely. Next, it's bbc news because they post some "government critical" news. News that could "cause alarm" or are "verifiably false". Taksin is already using these terms. Look at the newspapers in this country, they are already under the control of the almighty government, scared shitless of billion-baht lawsuits and corrupt courts and police. Once the news is truly censored things go to hel_l FAST. I couldn't care less about Pr0n and in any case I know ways to access any site I want even from within Thailand. Its not about that though - when the broad masses are cut off from real news, that's when trouble starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 you're all ning nongsthis is misdirection it is about control of the internet and freedom of speech you seem to be running off like chickens without heads as soon as a debatable subject comes up its not about rape of images of sexual nature its about controlling ALL content get it right then from this perspective look at what it will be like ni a few years time <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Phew, at least some people get it. Spot on. In Taksin's mind, the internet is like TV, only bigger. TV is already under control, thankyouverymuch. Print, we are working on even though we don't believe it's a mass medium. The internet hasn't yet caught on with the masses, but Taksin thinks ahead - and has a son(?) who runs an internet provider I think. Better get the control mechanisms in place before that thing gets out of hand. Blocking unwanted content is not hard to do technically, and the internet isn't nearly as decentralized as people believe. There is one line out of Thailand (one giant proxy behind it) and on that single point of access the government through CAT can do whatever they ###### well please. A porn crackdown is as good as any of the other weekly crackdowns, but it makes a perfect little excuse to get some serious censorship going. I believe that the entire reason Thailand has a crappy connectivity to the rest of the world is that the government wants to keep control and therefore they protect the CAT international line monopoly. Too bad it's to the detriment of the Thai economy. Oh, well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billshot64 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 The wors tink is That the Thai people not see wat is real happend. There is no freedom it is dictatorship to block porn site is a excuse too can block more in future the technik is in the house so he use it. I'm 65 for me is is not important to look the porn site's but freedom for everybody. billshot64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 For those interested in the Internet configuration in Thailand go here: http://iir.ngi.nectec.or.th/internet/map/current.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlRedEyes Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Ah Thailand my sweet friend, yet again you want the butter but you don't want to milk the cow. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How well said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 METROPOLITAN POLICE TO STRICTLY MONITOR ON INTERNET CAFÉS AND ENTERTAINMENT SPOTS The metropolitan police will strictly keep an eye on internet café and entertainment spots to prevent any illegal activities. Police Major General CHATCHAWAN SUKSOMJIT (ชัชวาลย์ สุขสมจิตร์), Deputy Commander of Metropolitan Police said that Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has assigned all the related officers to clean up and strictly monitor on internet cafes and entertainment venues as businessmen run their businesses without how it will create a negative impact on youths. As for the urban areas, there are campaigns to advise parents and education institutes on the dangers of entertainment venues. Provincial Police Officers have been assigned to strictly monitor on entertainment spots and cyber cafes especially those whose services include offensive or pornography games. He added that the all the measures related to the issue will be implemented. For example, 10 pm will be the time impose to close all cafes. They have to be registered as well. As for entertainment venues, they will be strictly monitored in the operating hours and will be regularly inspected so as to prevent the spread of drugs. Visitors into such places will have to be over the age of 20. Those who violate against the law will have their businesses shut down. Source: thaisnews.com ประจำวันพฤหัสบดีที่ 20 ตุลาคม 2548 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Just because there is an election the country isn't any less fascist then before. Just as long as one remembers that one will be alright. But for some reason to many people here [on this forum] tend to get 'suprised' whenever stuff like this happends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindsayBKK Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Next crackdown on music, dancing, TV, mobile phones... oh, wait... that'll never happen... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not with Taksin owning a piece of the mobile phone market, TV too. If you can't get it on the net just go to Punthip plaza 55555 150bht each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) METROPOLITAN POLICE TO STRICTLY MONITOR ON INTERNET CAFÉS AND ENTERTAINMENT SPOTSI ask again, does anyone have a link to... or can post here this story in Thai language please.and this one if possible Crackdown On Internet Cafes And On-line Games, Internet cafes and on-line game shops http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=46087 Edited October 21, 2005 by johng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h5n1 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Might I suggest everyone boycott 12 call (AIS)? I'm fairly happy w/ Happy on a prepaid. It's not the porno necc - It's the CONTROL. Who does he think he is - Bush? -let's hope he meets the same fate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSnrang Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 These filters force all computers in thailand through slow routers. Speed is at most half of the actual potential speed. Imagine if this goes through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajarn_Jonesy Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Might I suggest everyone boycott 12 call (AIS)?I'm fairly happy w/ Happy on a prepaid. It's not the porno necc - It's the CONTROL. Who does he think he is - Bush? -let's hope he meets the same fate! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And What Fate Would that Be? Its people who make coments like that, that makes me even PROUDER to be an AMERICAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 this crackdown does not bother me. Prolly a good thing at the end of the day. Those with children would likely agree - would you have your teenage boy or girl playing these games or looking at gratuitous rape scenes? They have not gotten to the level of serious statewide censorship. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The crackdown on "porn" is far less worrying than the more general crackdown on what the government deems to be offensive material. I met one of the fellows working for the Thai government (over a year ago - this isn't new) and they're also blocking sites that take shots (legitimate or otherwise) at Thaksin's policies, revealing scandals, etc. Beware of any government that takes it upon themselves to decide what you should read, and what you shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 On the subject of rape, the Bangkok Post recently ran a feature on child rape where it was clearly stated that most child rapes take place after the male rapist has watched pornograhic material. Therefore there is a clear connection between the viewing of pornographic material and rape.Back to the crackdown - isn't this another case of making easy headline news by targeting the internet rather than tackling the more immediate threat to public decency from the illegal display and sale of 100's of hardcore pornographic dvd/vcd discs available in local markets across the land? These on sale dvd/vcds have with the most graphic covers showing all sorts of sexual acts, are visible to passer-bys of all ages, and that includes young children. Surely the ready availability of this kind of material is more likely to be causing the widespread moral corruption the government is concerned about than the relatively low number of thais that have private access to the internet. Too much to expect the local police to pull themselves away from harrassing passing motorcyclists than stopping the sale of illegal pornographic material just meters away, or for the government to ask police officers to enforce the law... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> better read better scientific studies than the newspaper the average male thinks about sex every few minutes - hundreds of times a day - watching video or not even dreaming there is no clear link as the male thinks about sex all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mai_reuh Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 You know, I get a laugh everytime "the fearless leader" says or does anything. He is a born comedian without even trying. Where else in the world are politicians this funny, except, of course, for Gov. Arny. Thailand: hub of laughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 First post almost two years to the day from signing up. Belated welcome. cv this crackdown does not bother me. Prolly a good thing at the end of the day. Those with children would likely agree - would you have your teenage boy or girl playing these games or looking at gratuitous rape scenes? They have not gotten to the level of serious statewide censorship. The crackdown on "porn" is far less worrying than the more general crackdown on what the government deems to be offensive material. I met one of the fellows working for the Thai government (over a year ago - this isn't new) and they're also blocking sites that take shots (legitimate or otherwise) at Thaksin's policies, revealing scandals, etc. Beware of any government that takes it upon themselves to decide what you should read, and what you shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyi Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 C'mon guys, It's their country. They are allowed to govern it as they wish. Sometimes I think we (the collective we who do not hold Thai passports) forget we are guests here in Thailand. If things of this nature irritate you too much, perhaps it's time to return to your home countries. ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I finally decided to write something about posts like this, as I see similar posts on many boards. If I hold a Thai passport, do I get to complain? Why me, because I held a visa for a number of years and then took a stupid 15 minute test, which of course a passing grade can be bought. People should complain whether they have a Thai citizenship or not. Especially, foreigners that work over here, and pay taxes. I probably pay more in tax to the Thai government than a whole Ampur in Isaan. I feel that fact far outweighs my right to complain, than my Thai passport. Thaksin is not Thai, he's Chinese, so is he a guest also? Oh thats right, he's a citizen. So I guess you need to be born here with parents that already have Thai citizenship to complain is that the formula? Countries have no business censoring the internet. That is what makes the internet the wonderful tool it is, not because you can download songs for free, or flirt with some girl from Shanghai, but because it is an open exchange of knowledge and ideas. The key word being open. ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said! Human rights are global, you do not need a passport to have them. And censorship is affecting human rights, big time. If you live somewhere, you have not only the right but also the duty to open your mouth if something stinks. Shutting up because you are not born here - what a nonsense! It's just an excuse for cowardness Most countries in the western world today are having a citizenship of immigrants, former foreigners. Even the governor of California is a born Austrian. Do you want to say he cannot comment on U.S politics? When Hitler killed the Jews, was it also "his country. He is allowed to govern it as he wish." What was nonsense there, is nonsense here. Human rights are global, they do not stop at the frontier of another state / another country. (of course this is not meant to support a "we tourists know all better and have to teach the monkeys" attitude) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangsom Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Talking about morals. Yesterday I saw in half an hour TV men killing each other, black mail, a woman taken hostage to be used as a protection shield, women beaten up by men, etc. At an hour Thai children are still up. Then I realized I had seen this before, not the same but with other people just a day ago . . . What is more dangerous to effect moral standards? People making love on the Internet or brutal violence as entertainment on the TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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