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Hey all,

I have a doubt about getting the work permit with the Non-Imm ED visa and I couldn't solve the problem browsing the forum.

My (non-Thai) wife has been offered a teaching position in a University in Bangkok and the Thailand Embassy in our home country granted her with the ED visa.

We are in Thailand now and the University says they can't provide the work permit with this ED visa, so it would be necessary for her to leave the country, get a new visa outside Thailand (probably "B" visa?) and return here.

I was wondering if it would be really necessary for her to leave the country for this or if this situation could be solved in the immigration bureau, applying for a change in the visa type, based on a letter written by the University.

What would be the easiest way to solve this?

If she really has to leave and reenter the country, I'll probably go with her and that raises a second doubt.

I have the Non-Imm O visa, single entry. If I leave, I'll have to apply for a new one to come back, since I'm afraid there will be no time to extend my visa to the 12-month multiple entries one (the University asked her to solve this issue this week!).

Since I have 2 passports (different nationalities), one possibility would be to leave with the one I haven't used to enter Thailand and reenter with the same one as a tourist (no visa needed), so I would have the original visa still valid in the first passport.

What could be the implications of this procedure, considering I don't have the entry stamp in the 2nd passport?

Thank you for your help!

Best regards,

Gazzola

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She's got the wrong Visa...but it can be changed without leaving the kingdom, I changed from non-ed to non-b without leaving the kingdom, using Order of the royal thai Police no. 777/2551 section 2.6. and if its a private institution then section 2.7. be that as it may, it is still subject to the immigration officer knowing this order exist. as for the hobby, get a re-entry permit and your Visa remains valid. no much hassles.

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There is a change from visa exempt entry or tourist visa entry but not from one non immigrant entry to another.

You can not leave on a passport you did not enter Thailand on. But you can obtain a re-entry permit for 1,000 baht to keep your current permitted to stay period alive. Visit Immigration prior to departure to obtain or arrive at airport Bangkok with extra time to get there. You don't mention how you qualify for multi entry non immigrant O visa issue so not sure how you expect to get that. If wife obtains one year extension of stay you can get matching extension of stay however (and non immigrant visa entry required).

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There is a change from visa exempt entry or tourist visa entry but not from one non immigrant entry to another.

You can not leave on a passport you did not enter Thailand on. But you can obtain a re-entry permit for 1,000 baht to keep your current permitted to stay period alive. Visit Immigration prior to departure to obtain or arrive at airport Bangkok with extra time to get there. You don't mention how you qualify for multi entry non immigrant O visa issue so not sure how you expect to get that. If wife obtains one year extension of stay you can get matching extension of stay however (and non immigrant visa entry required).

Please read police order 777/2551 section 2.6 and 2.7. it is somewhere on TV.

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talk2sam, thanks for the hint. I've found it here.

I see it can be used to extend the visa, but I couldn't find any information about changing from one visa to another. Does the document mention this situation?

lopbury3, I got my visa with the same letter the University provided to my wife, because they included my name as an accompanying person. I hope I can use this letter to apply for the extension, even if my wife is going to do it later...

Regarding leaving with another passport, I know it's not accepted, but this situation can eventually happen sometimes (for example, when someone loses his passport or don't get the stamp on entry by some mistake. At least I've seen it happen in other places). When it happens, they have to deal with it in some way and I guess probably the solution would be to apply some fine to the passport holder. Or could it be worse?

Thanks again.

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They do not leave until it is proven and previous passport information is entered into current passport. Lost passports require police reports as well as transfer of information into the new passport.

You can only obtain extension of stay after spouse obtains and will require a non immigrant visa entry to do so (new visa could be obtained with copy of her passport/extension and marriage paperwork if not ready before your current stay ends).

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She's got the wrong Visa...but it can be changed without leaving the kingdom, I changed from non-ed to non-b without leaving the kingdom, using Order of the royal thai Police no. 777/2551 section 2.6. and if its a private institution then section 2.7. be that as it may, it is still subject to the immigration officer knowing this order exist. as for the hobby, get a re-entry permit and your Visa remains valid. no much hassles.

The OP's Partner is having a problem getting a Work Permit (Dealt with by the Labour Dept not Immigration) so 777/51 2.6/2.7 are of no help, as a Work Permit is required to get such an extension.

There are a number of such Catch 22 scenarios here.

What you refer to is changing the basis for Extension of Permission to Stay, which is not the same as changing the visa itself.

Labour Departments in the regions often have different readings of the regulations, but most will not accept a WP2 Work Permit application with a Non Immigrant ED Visa.

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<br />They do not leave until it is proven and previous passport information is entered into current passport.  Lost passports require police reports as well as transfer of information into the new passport.<br /><br />You can only obtain extension of stay after spouse obtains and will require a non immigrant visa entry to do so (new visa could be obtained with copy of her passport/extension and marriage paperwork if not ready before your current stay ends).<br />
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lopburi,

do you know if I can request a reentry permit for myself keeping the 3 months they gave me and apply for the 12-month extension later when my wife does so?

If it's possible, when getting the 12-month extension do I keep the reentry permit (if multiple entries) or would I have to apply for it again?

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You can obtain re-entry permit to keep your current stay alive (the date on the re-entry permit will be your current permitted to stay date) - so no you can not use for a new extension of stay so only a single entry would be what you want.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Thanks for the info!

I've just got back from Vientiane and my wife's visa problem is solved now. I kept my visa using the single re-entry permit (1000 baht at Chang Wattana).

I'll post a report about the Thai Consulate in Vientiane soon, for reference. The procedure now seems a bit different from what I have read in previous reports in this forum.

Now I have a new doubt regarding the next steps to request the 12-month extension and I would like to ask for advice from you.

My wife's work permit is on its way now (with her new Non-Imm "B" visa). After the permit is granted, should we apply together for the 12-month extension or does she have to ask first before I can do the same? How long does it take to finish everything?

Since I'm using my original visa, now I have only 40 days remaining, while she has almost 90 days. Will it be enough for me to get the extension?

If not, I'll have to start planning another trip for a new visa request in a neighboring country.

Thanks again.

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Believe you should plan another visa trip as you can not obtain extension until she has one in her passport (and remember you require proof of marriage also). And she may not be allowed to apply for extension until less than 30 days remain on her current stay.

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Believe you should plan another visa trip as you can not obtain extension until she has one in her passport (and remember you require proof of marriage also). And she may not be allowed to apply for extension until less than 30 days remain on her current stay.

Thanks again, lopburi.

In this case, I think my plan will be to forget about this Non-Imm "O" visa, which is only turning things more complicated for me.

I have 2 passports. One of them allows me to get the regular 30-days tourist stamp on arrival, but the main one, the same I'm using now for the "O" visa, would give me 90-days as tourist, no visa required. Since I do plan to travel at least once every 3 months in the near future, I guess skipping the visa and using only the tourist stamps will be the simplest and cheapest way to solve the problem.

I've read in this forum few reports of people having trouble to reenter the country as tourists after they had used Non-Imm visa in the past. Well, by now I have only 1 stamp as tourist (before the visa) and 2 stamps using the visa, which will not be extended, so it will be used only for 90 days. I hope I won't have any problem if I get the tourist stamps not too many times (maybe 4 times in a year).

If anyone thinks different, I would love to hear the comments.

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[EDIT: Vientiane visa report posted at http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/489042-vientiane-report-non-imm-b/]

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