Well-Known Australian Body Builder Dies In Thailand Sauna

[softgeorge]

Regarding the sauna/spa identification: would it not be nice to know if you're possibly visiting where a guy died? Not so much to ask is it?

Exactly; it's very relevant. Why has the sauna got nothing to do with it? Someone died in one. It could have had faulty probes/control panel, whatever. Then again, it's probably all good, but that's not the point. People die all the time and everything is revealed, so why the mawkishness.

Read the subsequent reports. He had a congenital heart defect. Nothing to do with faulty wiring at the sauna. Naming the spa is pointless as are subsequent discussions about his sexual preferences.

With all due respect, the claim that the deceased had a congenital heart defect was speculation. The autopsy did not state that. All it gave was the immediate cause of death: cardiopulmonary failure. The physical exam showed an enlarged heart. It was the newspapers that claimed a congenital heart defect. The deceased may have indeed had such a disorder, but that cannot be concluded from the one page document that was provided to the Australian embassy, which was in turn faxed to the deceased's brother. No thorough blood chemistry exams results were available at the time. The report that was issued was to allow the repatriation company to take possession of the body and to ship it back to Australia. A basic forensic post mortem exam was performed. If there is to be a complete clinical autopsy, t would have to be done in Australia.

The state Coroner will determin if it warrants an inquest or he may issue his findings from the evidence presented to him in chambers.

[Richard4849]

...but what the people really want to know, apparently, is whether he came and went at the same time.

[wiscoman]

I don't know if it shows up on your screens, but right underneath the article is a large ad with a massive muscular dude for a "revolutionary new muscle builder". That is a bit classless for this article.

[housepainter]

I read somewhere that the police said he had a personal or business conflict and that two men in balaclavas were seen inside the sauna shortly before the incident. They then rode away on motorcycle wearing black balaclavas and a towel round the waist.

Also, the towel was pink with flowers on. They were clearly being ascetic despite the flowers.

Maybe we can all be ascesis in nature but not so in the sauna.

If you can't stand The Heat - don't watch the movie.

Sauna or later it comes to us all.

Very sad. So very, very, very sad.

RIP.

Or should that be ripped?

[Gonsalviz]

Question? Which Sauna did he have his unfortunate did he meet his untimely death.

The reporter failed in his coverage of his story or the sauna is a well known sauna that seeks any negative advertising.

And why is it so important to you to know WHICH sauna he came to his end,as it is clear that the sauna was not the cause of his dead.

I would imagine everyone would have wanted to know the name of the hotels in Chiang Mai that so many died at? What about the deaths in Phi Phi?

[nurofiend]

I read somewhere that the police said he had a personal or business conflict and that two men in balaclavas were seen inside the sauna shortly before the incident. They then rode away on motorcycle wearing black balaclavas and a towel round the waist.

Also, the towel was pink with flowers on. They were clearly being ascetic despite the flowers.

Maybe we can all be ascesis in nature but not so in the sauna.

If you can't stand The Heat - don't watch the movie.

Sauna or later it comes to us all.

Very sad. So very, very, very sad.

RIP.

Or should that be ripped?

<deleted>?

[doggie888888]

Here is an extract of his facebook posting: 'Off to Thailand for a month this weekend, any traveller tips so I don't get raped by ladyboys are appreciated.'

'No homo' is another posting, despite his high camp, oiled-up pouting and posturing.

I don't know this guy nor have I heard of him before his death. His public postings re homos and ladyboys (and his vigorous self promotion via several online videos, pics) would make it relevant if he was found at a gay sauna. Ordinarily, who cares, and he has a right to privacy...but I am sorry, if you are making certain statements in public to the detriment of a certain group, you ought to be exposed if you are a hypocrite.

[nikster]

RIP, pretty boy!

I don't care who he was or whether he took steroids - though come on he def. did - or whether he liked boys or girls... he was too young to die.

[leo12345]

The name of the sauna should be revealed because certain saunas are known to be gathering places for gay people engaging in certain activities. Some of these saunas from what i hear are pitch black when you walk in. (im straight)

That has to be one of the funniest comments ever.

Are you being homophobic or are you secretly searching for a gay spa?

And how do you know so much about their operations?

[Jingthing]

Here is an extract of his facebook posting: 'Off to Thailand for a month this weekend, any traveller tips so I don't get raped by ladyboys are appreciated.'

'No homo' is another posting, despite his high camp, oiled-up pouting and posturing.

I don't know this guy nor have I heard of him before his death. His public postings re homos and ladyboys (and his vigorous self promotion via several online videos, pics) would make it relevant if he was found at a gay sauna. Ordinarily, who cares, and he has a right to privacy...but I am sorry, if you are making certain statements in public to the detriment of a certain group, you ought to be exposed if you are a hypocrite.

Well, he sounds like he had some issues, and wasn't being very pleasant, but he's dead now, and I think people should leave it alone and let his friends and family grieve. I could see the need to "expose" if he had been some kind of historical figure that called for studying.

[Chopperboy]

"is a warning for any of you boys coming to Thailand. Thailand is a country with it all.. girls, steroids, growth hormone, it's all here and it's all cheap."

Growth hormone is not cheap its very expensive, it only lasts in the body for seconds (too short to even measure - its measured as I-GF1 instead). It declines with age, for anyone over 40 to little is the problem, not too much!

Edited August 12, 2011 by Chopperboy

[tropo]

"is a warning for any of you boys coming to Thailand. Thailand is a country with it all.. girls, steroids, growth hormone, it's all here and it's all cheap."

Growth hormone is not cheap its very expensive, i

It's cheap in Thailand but very expensive in Australia.

[janverbeem]

Question? Which Sauna did he have his unfortunate did he meet his untimely death.

The reporter failed in his coverage of his story or the sauna is a well known sauna that seeks any negative advertising.

And why is it so important to you to know WHICH sauna he came to his end,as it is clear that the sauna was not the cause of his dead.

I would imagine everyone would have wanted to know the name of the hotels in Chiang Mai that so many died at? What about the deaths in Phi Phi?

We are talking here about an occasional death,not several mysterious deaths at the same location.People don't have the abillity to choose where they will pass away.

[tropo]

We are talking here about an occasional death,not several mysterious deaths at the same location.People don't have the abillity to choose where they will pass away.

There's always a drama story to make when a bodybuilder dies, especially a young one. Of course the first word which comes up is: "steroids". In actual fact this guy was not big at all. His low body fat gives the illusion of size to people who don't know the difference. Holding such low bodyfat levels can be very unhealthy and even dangerous with or without steroids.

Here's the facts:

1. He is not a competitive bodybuilder. He doesn't have the physique to win contests. He's scarcely more than an underwear model.

2. He is not well known. Only by young kids on Facebook.

3. He's not Australian. He travels on a Russian passport.

Edited August 12, 2011 by tropo

[KRS1]

I still stand by my statement that the name of the spa should be revealed. The gay community has a very large predisposition for drug use, including viagra, panagra, meth, ecstasy, k and heroin which are used as sexual enhancers. Entering into a pitch black spa, there is a very good chance that he took some type of drug that was 'cut' with a substance which could not be identified do to the darkness of the spa, causing an adverse reaction with the steroids that he had presumably taken.

Snorting heroin when you think its cocaine, will literally knock people out and have them crawling on the floor waiting for the world to stop spinning and in some cases even put them in a comatose state. Ecstacy is also known to be cut with heroin especially the shit that is sold in Bangkok, which is a cocktail of meth, heroin and other euphorics trying to mimic real x.

So as you can see its an obvious and a very relevant concern, im not gay bashing. I have a few gay friends which i trust even more than my straight friends, so some of you fools better step off and get your head straight and open your eyes. Before the next victim is yourself.

[tropo]

I still stand by my statement that the name of the spa should be revealed. The gay community has a very large predisposition for drug use, including viagra, panagra, meth, ecstasy, k and heroin which are used as sexual enhancers. Entering into a pitch black spa, there is a very good chance that he took some type of drug that was 'cut' with a substance which could not be identified do to the darkness of the spa, causing an adverse reaction with the steroids that he had presumably taken.

Snorting heroin when you think its cocaine, will literally knock people out and have them crawling on the floor waiting for the world to stop spinning and in some cases even put them in a comatose state. Ecstacy is also known to be cut with heroin especially the shit that is sold in Bangkok, which is a cocktail of meth, heroin and other euphorics trying to mimic real x.

So as you can see its an obvious and a very relevant concern, im not gay bashing. I have a few gay friends which i trust even more than my straight friends, so some of you fools better step off and get your head straight and open your eyes. Before the next victim is yourself.

Talk about wild speculation at its worst.

[sbk]

I still stand by my statement that the name of the spa should be revealed. The gay community has a very large predisposition for drug use, including viagra, panagra, meth, ecstasy, k and heroin which are used as sexual enhancers. Entering into a pitch black spa, there is a very good chance that he took some type of drug that was 'cut' with a substance which could not be identified do to the darkness of the spa, causing an adverse reaction with the steroids that he had presumably taken.

Snorting heroin when you think its cocaine, will literally knock people out and have them crawling on the floor waiting for the world to stop spinning and in some cases even put them in a comatose state. Ecstacy is also known to be cut with heroin especially the shit that is sold in Bangkok, which is a cocktail of meth, heroin and other euphorics trying to mimic real x.

So as you can see its an obvious and a very relevant concern, im not gay bashing. I have a few gay friends which i trust even more than my straight friends, so some of you fools better step off and get your head straight and open your eyes. Before the next victim is yourself.

Did you miss my post? Or are you choosing to wilfully ignore it?

You guys are absolutely amazing. Really. There is NO EVIDENCE of your wild speculation whatsoever. Drop it.

It is false, defamatory and if his family were to read this, very painful simply by the nature if its falsity.

Have some human consideration. And if you can't then refrain from posting.

[DLock]

We are talking here about an occasional death,not several mysterious deaths at the same location.People don't have the abillity to choose where they will pass away.

There's always a drama story to make when a bodybuilder dies, especially a young one. Of course the first word which comes up is: "steroids". In actual fact this guy was not big at all. His low body fat gives the illusion of size to people who don't know the difference. Holding such low bodyfat levels can be very unhealthy and even dangerous with or without steroids.

Here's the facts:

1. He is not a competitive bodybuilder. He doesn't have the physique to win contests. He's scarcely more than an underwear model.

2. He is not well known. Only by young kids on Facebook.

3. He's not Australian. He travels on a Russian passport.

I agree with Tropo.

To use the word "bodybuilder" in the context of Zyzz is an overstatement. He has a swimmers physique rather than that of a bodybuilder. Not knocking that. He has an aesthetic build and one that obviously attracts the girls.

But looking at his videos, the kid had charisma and made the most of what he had. Great self promoter and internet personality. He was on his way somewhere.

Condolences to his friends and family. It must be heartbreaking to lose someone that had it all ahead of him.

RIP Zyzz...

[DLock]

I still stand by my statement that the name of the spa should be revealed. The gay community has a very large predisposition for drug use, including viagra, panagra, meth, ecstasy, k and heroin which are used as sexual enhancers. Entering into a pitch black spa, there is a very good chance that he took some type of drug that was 'cut' with a substance which could not be identified do to the darkness of the spa, causing an adverse reaction with the steroids that he had presumably taken.

Snorting heroin when you think its cocaine, will literally knock people out and have them crawling on the floor waiting for the world to stop spinning and in some cases even put them in a comatose state. Ecstacy is also known to be cut with heroin especially the shit that is sold in Bangkok, which is a cocktail of meth, heroin and other euphorics trying to mimic real x.

So as you can see its an obvious and a very relevant concern, im not gay bashing. I have a few gay friends which i trust even more than my straight friends, so some of you fools better step off and get your head straight and open your eyes. Before the next victim is yourself.

Ok, we get it.

You have a paranoia of snorting unknown drug substances in a blacked out gay sauna.

But don't try and project your fears onto a kid that just happened to expire in a sauna in Bangkok.

Have some respect.

[tropo]

From the OP:

"The young personal trainer's shocking death has prompted a friend to warn the bodybuilding community of the dangers of taking body supplements and performance enhancers in Thailand.

While Mr Shavershian's cause of death has not been confirmed, New Zealand man Tim Sharky wrote on his Facebook page that he had told his friend to "slow down" in the weeks leading up to his death.

"R.I.P Zyzz… This is a warning for any of you boys coming to Thailand. Thailand is a country with it all.. girls, steroids, growth hormone, it's all here and it's all cheap. I spoke to him the other day and he looked like a kid in a candy shop," Mr Sharky said."

It is interesting that Mr Tim Sharky is coming across as a friend of the deceased who was warning him to slow down. Just for reference, anyone who lives in Pattaya may have seen this guy walking along the beach with his shirt off. You can't miss him because he weighs around 135kg and looks like he just strayed of a Mad Max movie set. If Tim Sharky is his mentor, then it's looking very likely he was experimenting with HGH because there is no doubt Mr Sharky is full of it.

Edited August 13, 2011 by tropo

[softgeorge]

I read somewhere that the police said he had a personal or business conflict and that two men in balaclavas were seen inside the sauna shortly before the incident. They then rode away on motorcycle wearing black balaclavas and a towel round the waist.

Also, the towel was pink with flowers on. They were clearly being ascetic despite the flowers.

Maybe we can all be ascesis in nature but not so in the sauna.

If you can't stand The Heat - don't watch the movie.

Sauna or later it comes to us all.

Very sad. So very, very, very sad.

RIP.

Or should that be ripped?

<deleted>?

My thoughts exactly.

[softgeorge]

I still stand by my statement that the name of the spa should be revealed. The gay community has a very large predisposition for drug use, including viagra, panagra, meth, ecstasy, k and heroin which are used as sexual enhancers. Entering into a pitch black spa, there is a very good chance that he took some type of drug that was 'cut' with a substance which could not be identified do to the darkness of the spa, causing an adverse reaction with the steroids that he had presumably taken.

Snorting heroin when you think its cocaine, will literally knock people out and have them crawling on the floor waiting for the world to stop spinning and in some cases even put them in a comatose state. Ecstacy is also known to be cut with heroin especially the shit that is sold in Bangkok, which is a cocktail of meth, heroin and other euphorics trying to mimic real x.

So as you can see its an obvious and a very relevant concern, im not gay bashing. I have a few gay friends which i trust even more than my straight friends, so some of you fools better step off and get your head straight and open your eyes. Before the next victim is yourself.

Talk about wild speculation at its worst.

Where on earth does it say he was gay. I just love they way some people can grab a few lines and distort the whole story totaly.

[pedro01]

This is the guy.

His own comments at about 1:13 - "Yeah I'm going out now Man, I'm fuc_king coked to shit".

Coke + steroids is a lethal combo long term. Coke reduces the capillary size and steroids increase your blood pressure. Add in a dodgy ticker and there you go... Even with no dodgy ticker it can take you out.

It is a shame. As for the name of the sauna... I don't see how it's relevant. Do you really think the man in this video didn't just crash and burn?

We can probably end all the amateur detective stuff now...

Edited August 13, 2011 by pedro01

[tropo]

This is the guy.

His own comments at about 1:13 - "Yeah I'm going out now Man, I'm fuc_king coked to shit".

Coke + steroids is a lethal combo long term. Coke reduces the capillary size and steroids increase your blood pressure. Add in a dodgy ticker and there you go... Even with no dodgy ticker it can take you out.

It is a shame. As for the name of the sauna... I don't see how it's relevant. Do you really think the man in this video didn't just crash and burn?

We can probably end all the amateur detective stuff now...

Maybe you should go back and do some more amateur detective stuff because I don't think the case is closed just yet.

Here's some comments I extracted from the YouTube video you posted:

maoooo this guys funny. he's just messing around guys he's not actually like that.

kardona91 9 months ago

@ModernWin I know he probably does coke but I doubt he was on it in this vid. this vid shows that he was just sick /watch?v=dguQ7h3S1OU(add youtube.com)

efosaej 10 months ago

There is another video of him on Battelcam inhaling one of those vapor sticks. He also had some medication. Go on battlecam's website and search Zyzz if you don't believe me.

for people saying that he's on coke , he's actually just got a cold. he said on another battlecam vid. looks like his trolling is working lol

Edited August 13, 2011 by tropo

[pauljones]

Lots of info on the guy:

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=zyzz+steroids&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[softgeorge]

Sydney bodybuilder robbed after death

09:00 AEST Sun Aug 14 2011 Sydney Morning Herald

An amateur Sydney bodybuilder had his personal belongings stolen after he died from a heart attack in sauna in Thailand a week ago.

His laptop, wallet and clothes, were stolen from his hotel room after his death, the Sydney Morning Herald reports.Records show Mr Shavershian had spent $20,000 in Thailand according to a friend who did not want to be identified.

The bodybuilding community has planned a memorial next Saturday, with Mr Shavershian's fans urged to post photographs of themselves in "Zyzz poses" while the Shavershian family is trying to raise money for his funeral.

Mr Shavershian's 25-year-old brother Said, who is also an amateur bodybuilder, was fined after pleading guilty to steroid possession earlier this month.

[pedro01]

This is the guy.

His own comments at about 1:13 - "Yeah I'm going out now Man, I'm fuc_king coked to shit".

Coke + steroids is a lethal combo long term. Coke reduces the capillary size and steroids increase your blood pressure. Add in a dodgy ticker and there you go... Even with no dodgy ticker it can take you out.

It is a shame. As for the name of the sauna... I don't see how it's relevant. Do you really think the man in this video didn't just crash and burn?

We can probably end all the amateur detective stuff now...

Maybe you should go back and do some more amateur detective stuff because I don't think the case is closed just yet.

Here's some comments I extracted from the YouTube video you posted:

maoooo this guys funny. he's just messing around guys he's not actually like that.

kardona91 9 months ago

@ModernWin I know he probably does coke but I doubt he was on it in this vid. this vid shows that he was just sick /watch?v=dguQ7h3S1OU(add youtube.com)

efosaej 10 months ago

There is another video of him on Battelcam inhaling one of those vapor sticks. He also had some medication. Go on battlecam's website and search Zyzz if you don't believe me.

for people saying that he's on coke , he's actually just got a cold. he said on another battlecam vid. looks like his trolling is working lol

LMAO!

That guy is CLEARLY coked out of his head on that video.

"He's just got a cold" lol!

[chooka]

Sydney bodybuilder robbed after death

09:00 AEST Sun Aug 14 2011 Sydney Morning Herald

An amateur Sydney bodybuilder had his personal belongings stolen after he died from a heart attack in sauna in Thailand a week ago.

His laptop, wallet and clothes, were stolen from his hotel room after his death, the Sydney Morning Herald reports.Records show Mr Shavershian had spent $20,000 in Thailand according to a friend who did not want to be identified.

The bodybuilding community has planned a memorial next Saturday, with Mr Shavershian's fans urged to post photographs of themselves in "Zyzz poses" while the Shavershian family is trying to raise money for his funeral.

Mr Shavershian's 25-year-old brother Said, who is also an amateur bodybuilder, was fined after pleading guilty to steroid possession earlier this month.

I am sure the BIB would not have anything to do with his personal property going missing. They would have attended his room as part of thier inquiries into his death, located all property, itemised and logged it into a property register then conveyed it all back to the station where it would have been secured before handing it over to the embassy for forwarding to family. I guess it must have been the butler who has taken it.

[tropo]

LMAO!

That guy is CLEARLY coked out of his head on that video.

"He's just got a cold" lol!

Whatever you say Sherlock.

My opinion differs and I believe he was acting. Do you really think he would have left a video on YouTube (since September last year) on which he openly admits to "coking".

Acting coked like that is actually quite easy.

Edited August 14, 2011 by tropo

[Jingthing]

Anyone see the new Australian series Angry Boys? The late Zyzz kind of suggests one of the brilliant Chris Lilley parody "legends" in the series. He was a bit of a surreal character. Anyway, I am sure he will be missed by many. RIP again. I don't see how it matters now what drugs he did or didn't do, or whether he was a closet gay or not.

Edited August 14, 2011 by Jingthing