Building Permit

[GiantFan]

I have been living in my house in Patong for 6 years. While it was under construction, my builder confirmed that he rec'd the building permit in his company name. My lawyer has advised me to get a copy of the permit from my builder, but it has been lost over the years. Can I go down to the Land Department and get a copy of the building permit?

[paahlman]

Yes.. you can..

[katabeachbum]

at least you can go to the Land Deprtament or local Tessabaan to find out who owns the building today. If buildingermit has been issued to your builder, he may be the registered owner of the building

[phuketlen]

at least you can go to the Land Deprtament or local Tessabaan to find out who owns the building today. If buildingermit has been issued to your builder, he may be the registered owner of the building

Completely inocorrect. The person on the building permit is NOT the legal owner of the building.

[katabeachbum]

at least you can go to the Land Deprtament or local Tessabaan to find out who owns the building today. If buildingermit has been issued to your builder, he may be the registered owner of the building

Completely inocorrect. The person on the building permit is NOT the legal owner of the building.

having your name on a buildingpermit is an opportunity to become the legal owner of the building, thus my suggestion to check who is the registered owner of the building in question. It does not need to be the land owner, as buildingpermit has been issued to someone else as authorised by land owner. Just need to pop the question and show Tabien Baan at land office or tessabaan

[phuketlen]

at least you can go to the Land Deprtament or local Tessabaan to find out who owns the building today. If buildingermit has been issued to your builder, he may be the registered owner of the building

Completely inocorrect. The person on the building permit is NOT the legal owner of the building.

having your name on a buildingpermit is an opportunity to become the legal owner of the building, thus my suggestion to check who is the registered owner of the building in question. It does not need to be the land owner, as buildingpermit has been issued to someone else as authorised by land owner. Just need to pop the question and show Tabien Baan at land office or tessabaan

Also totally incorrect. The building permit has nothing to do whatsoever with the legal ownership of the building.

[LivinLOS]

at least you can go to the Land Deprtament or local Tessabaan to find out who owns the building today. If buildingermit has been issued to your builder, he may be the registered owner of the building

Completely inocorrect. The person on the building permit is NOT the legal owner of the building.

having your name on a buildingpermit is an opportunity to become the legal owner of the building, thus my suggestion to check who is the registered owner of the building in question. It does not need to be the land owner, as buildingpermit has been issued to someone else as authorised by land owner. Just need to pop the question and show Tabien Baan at land office or tessabaan

Also totally incorrect. The building permit has nothing to do whatsoever with the legal ownership of the building.

Strange as my lawyer clearly stated that having the building permit in my name was desirable for exactly this reason.. That building permit, and proof of source of funds that pays for the building, were 2 powerful parts leading to the establishment of ownership of the structure as separate and distinct from the land.

[phuketlen]

having your name on a buildingpermit is an opportunity to become the legal owner of the building, thus my suggestion to check who is the registered owner of the building in question. It does not need to be the land owner, as buildingpermit has been issued to someone else as authorised by land owner. Just need to pop the question and show Tabien Baan at land office or tessabaan

Also totally incorrect. The building permit has nothing to do whatsoever with the legal ownership of the building.

Strange as my lawyer clearly stated that having the building permit in my name was desirable for exactly this reason.. That building permit, and proof of source of funds that pays for the building, were 2 powerful parts leading to the establishment of ownership of the structure as separate and distinct from the land.

As they say, sometimes fact is stranger than fiction. And what may sound even more strange to most is that surprisingly few lawyers here know Thai law very well [including BTW the Thai lawyers]. But if that does indeed sound too strange to believe, then I would take this opportunity to illustrate my point to you by suggesting that you simply ask your lawyer to show you the law that provides that a building permit establishes legal ownership of a building in any way. And then when he cannot provide that, ask him what laws do establish legal ownership of a building, because there are such specific laws, just not laws that has anything to do with a buiding permit.

[steelepulse]

>>ask him what laws do establish legal ownership of a building, because there are such specific laws,

I'll bite . What laws do establish legal ownership of a building?

[cdmtdm]

having your name on a buildingpermit is an opportunity to become the legal owner of the building, thus my suggestion to check who is the registered owner of the building in question. It does not need to be the land owner, as buildingpermit has been issued to someone else as authorised by land owner. Just need to pop the question and show Tabien Baan at land office or tessabaan

Also totally incorrect. The building permit has nothing to do whatsoever with the legal ownership of the building.

Strange as my lawyer clearly stated that having the building permit in my name was desirable for exactly this reason.. That building permit, and proof of source of funds that pays for the building, were 2 powerful parts leading to the establishment of ownership of the structure as separate and distinct from the land.

As they say, sometimes fact is stranger than fiction. And what may sound even more strange to most is that surprisingly few lawyers here know Thai law very well [including BTW the Thai lawyers]. But if that does indeed sound too strange to believe, then I would take this opportunity to illustrate my point to you by suggesting that you simply ask your lawyer to show you the law that provides that a building permit establishes legal ownership of a building in any way. And then when he cannot provide that, ask him what laws do establish legal ownership of a building, because there are such specific laws, just not laws that has anything to do with a buiding permit.

very interesting post , can you please elaborate on those laws that do prove ownership cheers

[LivinLOS]

having your name on a buildingpermit is an opportunity to become the legal owner of the building, thus my suggestion to check who is the registered owner of the building in question. It does not need to be the land owner, as buildingpermit has been issued to someone else as authorised by land owner. Just need to pop the question and show Tabien Baan at land office or tessabaan

Also totally incorrect. The building permit has nothing to do whatsoever with the legal ownership of the building.

Strange as my lawyer clearly stated that having the building permit in my name was desirable for exactly this reason.. That building permit, and proof of source of funds that pays for the building, were 2 powerful parts leading to the establishment of ownership of the structure as separate and distinct from the land.

As they say, sometimes fact is stranger than fiction. And what may sound even more strange to most is that surprisingly few lawyers here know Thai law very well [including BTW the Thai lawyers]. But if that does indeed sound too strange to believe, then I would take this opportunity to illustrate my point to you by suggesting that you simply ask your lawyer to show you the law that provides that a building permit establishes legal ownership of a building in any way. And then when he cannot provide that, ask him what laws do establish legal ownership of a building, because there are such specific laws, just not laws that has anything to do with a buiding permit.

My lawyer (who I feel is very competent) addressed that while explaining how the house tabien baan was not an indicator of ownership.

Now I am paraphrasing and going from memory of a few months back, and I am not at the build stage yet so this was not vital info I had to be sure on, just a discussion. But she explained that the ownership of the structure, as separate and distinct from the ownership of the land, was achieved via a collection of facts not one single point. Effectively by showing that I was the person who commissioned the building (obtained the building permit) and I was the person who paid for the structure to be built (via payments to the builder and any and all materials) that it was this collection of evidence (I ordered it, I paid for it, I paid for the materials that it was created from) which established ownership.

Now as I say, this was just a discussion and I am not at the stage where this is important to me, so it wasnt being quizzed from all angles, more mentioned in passing. But that was the impression I had from the conversation.

Whats wrong about that, as it will become important in the next year or so.

[phuketlen]

As they say, sometimes fact is stranger than fiction. And what may sound even more strange to most is that surprisingly few lawyers here know Thai law very well [including BTW the Thai lawyers]. But if that does indeed sound too strange to believe, then I would take this opportunity to illustrate my point to you by suggesting that you simply ask your lawyer to show you the law that provides that a building permit establishes legal ownership of a building in any way. And then when he cannot provide that, ask him what laws do establish legal ownership of a building, because there are such specific laws, just not laws that has anything to do with a buiding permit.

My lawyer (who I feel is very competent) addressed that while explaining how the house tabien baan was not an indicator of ownership.

Now I am paraphrasing and going from memory of a few months back, and I am not at the build stage yet so this was not vital info I had to be sure on, just a discussion. But she explained that the ownership of the structure, as separate and distinct from the ownership of the land, was achieved via a collection of facts not one single point. Effectively by showing that I was the person who commissioned the building (obtained the building permit) and I was the person who paid for the structure to be built (via payments to the builder and any and all materials) that it was this collection of evidence (I ordered it, I paid for it, I paid for the materials that it was created from) which established ownership.

Now as I say, this was just a discussion and I am not at the stage where this is important to me, so it wasnt being quizzed from all angles, more mentioned in passing. But that was the impression I had from the conversation.

Whats wrong about that, as it will become important in the next year or so.

I can only basically repeat what I said. Your lawyer is not correct. Ask her to show you the law that says a building permit and tabian baan legally "acheives" ownership of the house...in any way, "collectively" or otherwise. But and again, there is a way of doing that, under Thai law, so ask her that. And I would reply to you, what is wrong about THAT? i.e. asking your lawyer to show the law that supports what they assert and what they advise you on? If she cannot tell you, I think you should perhaps re-evaluate your confidence in said competence and find a lawyer that is, not easy in Thailand.

[LivinLOS]

As they say, sometimes fact is stranger than fiction. And what may sound even more strange to most is that surprisingly few lawyers here know Thai law very well [including BTW the Thai lawyers]. But if that does indeed sound too strange to believe, then I would take this opportunity to illustrate my point to you by suggesting that you simply ask your lawyer to show you the law that provides that a building permit establishes legal ownership of a building in any way. And then when he cannot provide that, ask him what laws do establish legal ownership of a building, because there are such specific laws, just not laws that has anything to do with a buiding permit.

My lawyer (who I feel is very competent) addressed that while explaining how the house tabien baan was not an indicator of ownership.

Now I am paraphrasing and going from memory of a few months back, and I am not at the build stage yet so this was not vital info I had to be sure on, just a discussion. But she explained that the ownership of the structure, as separate and distinct from the ownership of the land, was achieved via a collection of facts not one single point. Effectively by showing that I was the person who commissioned the building (obtained the building permit) and I was the person who paid for the structure to be built (via payments to the builder and any and all materials) that it was this collection of evidence (I ordered it, I paid for it, I paid for the materials that it was created from) which established ownership.

Now as I say, this was just a discussion and I am not at the stage where this is important to me, so it wasnt being quizzed from all angles, more mentioned in passing. But that was the impression I had from the conversation.

Whats wrong about that, as it will become important in the next year or so.

I can only basically repeat what I said. Your lawyer is not correct. Ask her to show you the law that says a building permit and tabian baan legally "acheives" ownership of the house...in any way, "collectively" or otherwise. But and again, there is a way of doing that, under Thai law, so ask her that. And I would reply to you, what is wrong about THAT? i.e. asking your lawyer to show the law that supports what they assert and what they advise you on? If she cannot tell you, I think you should perhaps re-evaluate your confidence in said competence and find a lawyer that is, not easy in Thailand.

I dont think you read what I wrote as I clearly said the tabien baan did NOT indicate ownership..

But how about this.. I am asking YOU what the law is, as you clearly have a different opinion so why not explain it. So to paraphrase you.

But and again, there is a way of doing that, under Thai law, so I am asking you that. And I would reply to you, what is wrong about THAT? i.e. asking the poster to show the law that supports what they assert and what they advise you on? If they cannot tell you, I think you should perhaps re-evaluate your confidence in said competence in that poster

Whats the big mystery here ?? Your stating something so why make it all a big hush hush / cant say it out loud mystery.. If you know what it is just say so.

[phuketlen]

You are correct. I do, apparently, have a different opinion on this. But why can't you just ask your lawyer what I laid out above? I think that is pretty simple is it not? Ask your lawyer to show you the law(s) that support what your lawyer told you...why would you ask me for that?

I am also sorry a bit to say it, but we need to evolve a bit and quit thinking that someone I met on the barstool who has been here for some x years or someone who I have met who is Thai and even a Thai "lawyer" so the must know Thai law...if I just tell you what you want to know, no one gains

[katabeachbum]

You are correct. I do, apparently, have a different opinion on this. But why can't you just ask your lawyer what I laid out above? I think that is pretty simple is it not? Ask your lawyer to show you the law(s) that support what your lawyer told you...why would you ask me for that?

I am also sorry a bit to say it, but we need to evolve a bit and quit thinking that someone I met on the barstool who has been here for some x years or someone who I have met who is Thai and even a Thai "lawyer" so the must know Thai law...if I just tell you what you want to know, no one gains

well in reality you can become the owner of a structure without owning the land its build on by applying for a buildingpermit in your name, have it build for your funds, have tabien baan issued and register your ownership at land office, and the registration duplicets in tessabaans files. one owner for land, one for structure

want law codes, post in property forum, cause I dont recall them all, but have done above a few times, without involvement of any lawyer.

it all starts with land owner accepting buildinpermit issued in your name, or existing buildingpermit transferred to you before completion/tabien baan

[LivinLOS]

You are correct. I do, apparently, have a different opinion on this. But why can't you just ask your lawyer what I laid out above? I think that is pretty simple is it not? Ask your lawyer to show you the law(s) that support what your lawyer told you...why would you ask me for that?

I am also sorry a bit to say it, but we need to evolve a bit and quit thinking that someone I met on the barstool who has been here for some x years or someone who I have met who is Thai and even a Thai "lawyer" so the must know Thai law...if I just tell you what you want to know, no one gains

well in reality you can become the owner of a structure without owning the land its build on by applying for a buildingpermit in your name, have it build for your funds, have tabien baan issued and register your ownership at land office, and the registration duplicets in tessabaans files. one owner for land, one for structure

want law codes, post in property forum, cause I dont recall them all, but have done above a few times, without involvement of any lawyer.

it all starts with land owner accepting buildinpermit issued in your name, or existing buildingpermit transferred to you before completion/tabien baan

Exactly the outline my lawyer explained on how to separate the two.. Thanks..

Poster seems to have a different view, but refuses to say why, or what backs up his view.. Kind of hard to have a discussion when its all too secret and hush hush to mention.

[phuketlen]

You are correct. I do, apparently, have a different opinion on this. But why can't you just ask your lawyer what I laid out above? I think that is pretty simple is it not? Ask your lawyer to show you the law(s) that support what your lawyer told you...why would you ask me for that?

I am also sorry a bit to say it, but we need to evolve a bit and quit thinking that someone I met on the barstool who has been here for some x years or someone who I have met who is Thai and even a Thai "lawyer" so the must know Thai law...if I just tell you what you want to know, no one gains

well in reality you can become the owner of a structure without owning the land its build on by applying for a buildingpermit in your name, have it build for your funds, have tabien baan issued and register your ownership at land office, and the registration duplicets in tessabaans files. one owner for land, one for structure

want law codes, post in property forum, cause I dont recall them all, but have done above a few times, without involvement of any lawyer.

it all starts with land owner accepting buildinpermit issued in your name, or existing buildingpermit transferred to you before completion/tabien baan

No offense, but no doubt you have not "done that" without competent legal advice becuause legally, in reality, you are completely incorrect.

[phuketlen]

You are correct. I do, apparently, have a different opinion on this. But why can't you just ask your lawyer what I laid out above? I think that is pretty simple is it not? Ask your lawyer to show you the law(s) that support what your lawyer told you...why would you ask me for that?

I am also sorry a bit to say it, but we need to evolve a bit and quit thinking that someone I met on the barstool who has been here for some x years or someone who I have met who is Thai and even a Thai "lawyer" so the must know Thai law...if I just tell you what you want to know, no one gains

well in reality you can become the owner of a structure without owning the land its build on by applying for a buildingpermit in your name, have it build for your funds, have tabien baan issued and register your ownership at land office, and the registration duplicets in tessabaans files. one owner for land, one for structure

want law codes, post in property forum, cause I dont recall them all, but have done above a few times, without involvement of any lawyer.

it all starts with land owner accepting buildinpermit issued in your name, or existing buildingpermit transferred to you before completion/tabien baan

Exactly the outline my lawyer explained on how to separate the two.. Thanks..

Poster seems to have a different view, but refuses to say why, or what backs up his view.. Kind of hard to have a discussion when its all too secret and hush hush to mention.

Yet you are unwilliing to ask your "lawyer" to show you the law that supports said "outline"? Sorry but I am not going to spoon feed you on this and besides my main point has not been to educate you on how to own the building letgally but to show you and anyone else reading who cares just how poor your legal "advice" has been on this issue and likely in many other cases. I can successfully only make that point, if you go ask you lawyer to show the laws they say supports their claim and also what law actually does provide for legal ownership of a building. In my humble opinion, if I am correct in my main point and you (and any others reading this) come to realize that, I have done you a fairly good turn. If on the other hand you chose to keep your eyes closed and simply trust your lawyer's advice without making them show you the law they are advisign you on, they I guess there really is nothing to discuss and I can only say, "good luck with that."

[LivinLOS]

Yet you are unwilliing to ask your "lawyer" to show you the law that supports said "outline"? Sorry but I am not going to spoon feed you on this and besides my main point has not been to educate you on how to own the building letgally but to show you and anyone else reading who cares just how poor your legal "advice" has been on this issue and likely in many other cases. I can successfully only make that point, if you go ask you lawyer to show the laws they say supports their claim and also what law actually does provide for legal ownership of a building. In my humble opinion, if I am correct in my main point and you (and any others reading this) come to realize that, I have done you a fairly good turn. If on the other hand you chose to keep your eyes closed and simply trust your lawyer's advice without making them show you the law they are advisign you on, they I guess there really is nothing to discuss and I can only say, "good luck with that."

I will ask (multiple) lawyers when it comes time to do this process.. As I said I am a fair way out from building yet and have only been given an outline while checking other aspects. Right now its not important for me.

But legal ownership for a physical something proven by the ordering of that something, and proof of paying for that something.

But I ask this (again) why your rabid determination to not say what this (in your opinion) proof is ?? I fail to understand your need to keep repeating it, but keep from saying it. Are forums not about sharing information as understood ? Why the "I know it but I wont say it.. Ner ne ner ne ner ner" schoolyard style posting. If your so sure of your facts, say what they are. Refusing to make a point makes it very hard to discuss.

[katabeachbum]

well in reality you can become the owner of a structure without owning the land its build on by applying for a buildingpermit in your name, have it build for your funds, have tabien baan issued and register your ownership at land office, and the registration duplicets in tessabaans files. one owner for land, one for structure

want law codes, post in property forum, cause I dont recall them all, but have done above a few times, without involvement of any lawyer.

it all starts with land owner accepting buildinpermit issued in your name, or existing buildingpermit transferred to you before completion/tabien baan

No offense, but no doubt you have not "done that" without competent legal advice becuause legally, in reality, you are completely incorrect.

hehehe

according to karon tessabaan I was the first one to do it, and it took an advicing letter from central bkk government for them to accept it

end of disussion for me, advice given, up to anyone to take advantage of it if desired to be owner of a structure on land owned by someone else like co ltd or thai national

[phuketlen]

No offense, but no doubt you have not "done that" without competent legal advice becuause legally, in reality, you are completely incorrect.

hehehe

according to karon tessabaan I was the first one to do it, and it took an advicing letter from central bkk government for them to accept it

end of disussion for me, advice given, up to anyone to take advantage of it if desired to be owner of a structure on land owned by someone else like co ltd or thai national

I am sorry, but what law did they tell you that? They are wrong, so are you, unfortunately...and I am correct. Sorry, it may just be that those lawyers and tessaban officials really do not understand the law...possible???

[katabeachbum]

hehehe

according to karon tessabaan I was the first one to do it, and it took an advicing letter from central bkk government for them to accept it

end of disussion for me, advice given, up to anyone to take advantage of it if desired to be owner of a structure on land owned by someone else like co ltd or thai national

I am sorry, but what law did they tell you that? They are wrong, so are you, unfortunately...and I am correct. Sorry, it may just be that those lawyers and tessaban officials really do not understand the law...possible???

Tessabaan has never told me any law, I have presented to them what laws they must follow, and as said to lazy to look them up and easily available in ThaiVisa Real Estate Forum

your posts in this topic are most confusing, as you still have not presented any experience, facts, laws or court rulings, so its hard to get what you are "correct" about

fact is that I am registered owner in tessabaan and land office of structures in several provinces in this country, and land belongs to thai co ltd or thai national, and this is a solution easily available for any ThaiVisa reader by a simple readup in Real Estate Forum

[LivinLOS]

Also others in the real estate forum saying the above is how it works too.

[steelepulse]

Obviously they're all wrong and phuketlen is right. I can't wait for the ebook to come out which delves into "Proper ownership structure and the law in Thailand for dummies".

[phuketlen]

Obviously they're all wrong and phuketlen is right. I can't wait for the ebook to come out which delves into "Proper ownership structure and the law in Thailand for dummies".

No, I guess I must admit I am wrong. My apologies. After all, if a bunch a people say it, especially if a bunch of people who post a lot on a web forum, and more especially that post on web forum who's "legal" thread says it...it must be true. What was I thinking asking for the actual law??? We are humans and I should have just realized that if a bunch of people say something then that is the truth., obviously. Okay there was the "world is flat" thing...emmmm

It's a strange thing about facts and law in our world, we can evade them, unintentionally or intentionally...until they matter, then bascially no one can.

Anyway nevermind, I am sure that if katabeachbum or Livinginlos or those of you who believe "that is how it works" are ever in a Thai court over your legal rights to your home, you will have a lawyer who understands what a bunch of people believe and they can tell the judge that the judge should agree with that because a bunch of people believe that. A

And if they do not please just remember to show your lawyer the said forum's legal page comments on that...I am sure the judge will be duly impressed.

[LivinginKata]

No, I guess I must admit I am wrong. My apologies. After all, if a bunch a people say it, especially if a bunch of people who post a lot on a web forum, and more especially that post on web forum who's "legal" thread says it...it must be true. What was I thinking asking for the actual law??? We are humans and I should have just realized that if a bunch of people say something then that is the truth., obviously. Okay there was the "world is flat" thing...emmmm

It's a strange thing about facts and law in our world, we can evade them, unintentionally or intentionally...until they matter, then bascially no one can.

Anyway nevermind, I am sure that if katabeachbum or Livinginlos or those of you who believe "that is how it works" are ever in a Thai court over your legal rights to your home, you will have a lawyer who understands what a bunch of people believe and they can tell the judge that the judge should agree with that because a bunch of people believe that. A

And if they do not please just remember to show your lawyer the said forum's legal page comments on that...I am sure the judge will be duly impressed.

Impressive response phuketlen. I especially like "show your lawyer the said forum's legal page comments on that...I am sure the judge will be duly impressed"

[phuketlen]

hehehe

according to karon tessabaan I was the first one to do it, and it took an advicing letter from central bkk government for them to accept it

end of disussion for me, advice given, up to anyone to take advantage of it if desired to be owner of a structure on land owned by someone else like co ltd or thai national

I am sorry, but what law did they tell you that? They are wrong, so are you, unfortunately...and I am correct. Sorry, it may just be that those lawyers and tessaban officials really do not understand the law...possible???

Tessabaan has never told me any law, I have presented to them what laws they must follow, and as said to lazy to look them up and easily available in ThaiVisa Real Estate Forum

your posts in this topic are most confusing, as you still have not presented any experience, facts, laws or court rulings, so its hard to get what you are "correct" about

fact is that I am registered owner in tessabaan and land office of structures in several provinces in this country, and land belongs to thai co ltd or thai national, and this is a solution easily available for any ThaiVisa reader by a simple readup in Real Estate Forum

Excellent, you presented them what laws? Please tell us, I mean the law that make you the owner of a building. You did it all over Thailand and you say its easy to look up.

If you are so certain that you actually legally own a structure in Thailand, then clearly you can tell us what law proves that, right?

IF you are a legal owner, it MUST be based on and come directly from a law(s)...what law(s), YOU are so certain, so WHAT law(s)? Very simple question.

[katabeachbum]

hehehe

according to karon tessabaan I was the first one to do it, and it took an advicing letter from central bkk government for them to accept it

end of disussion for me, advice given, up to anyone to take advantage of it if desired to be owner of a structure on land owned by someone else like co ltd or thai national

I am sorry, but what law did they tell you that? They are wrong, so are you, unfortunately...and I am correct. Sorry, it may just be that those lawyers and tessaban officials really do not understand the law...possible???

Tessabaan has never told me any law, I have presented to them what laws they must follow, and as said to lazy to look them up and easily available in ThaiVisa Real Estate Forum

your posts in this topic are most confusing, as you still have not presented any experience, facts, laws or court rulings, so its hard to get what you are "correct" about

fact is that I am registered owner in tessabaan and land office of structures in several provinces in this country, and land belongs to thai co ltd or thai national, and this is a solution easily available for any ThaiVisa reader by a simple readup in Real Estate Forum

Excellent, you presented them what laws? Please tell us, I mean the law that make you the owner of a building. You did it all over Thailand and you say its easy to look up.

If you are so certain that you actually legally own a structure in Thailand, then clearly you can tell us what law proves that, right?

IF you are a legal owner, it MUST be based on and come directly from a law(s)...what law(s), YOU are so certain, so WHAT law(s)? Very simple question.

If YOU are to lazy to follow advice in this topic to look it up here in ThaiVisa Real Estate Forum, I am sure just as lazy to look it up for you.

Edit. ok,ok, ok always at your service, this time with a tea spoon

one single click in above Forum found: Section 1410 in chapter III, book VI

still to lazy to look up my own dusty files tho

if I build again, it will be apartments/highrise on small land. Registering rights of use on land belonging to co ltd or thai national is inexpensive and bulletproof.

making sure I become the registered owner of building, reduces taxes/costs on securing ownership/control, reduces taxes on income from building, and directs later sales income from building directly to me

Now you might want to tell us why you consider it illegal and what makes you "correct"?

Edited September 11, 2011 by katabeachbum
additional info

[phuketlen]

according to karon tessabaan I was the first one to do it, and it took an advicing letter from central bkk government for them to accept it

end of disussion for me, advice given, up to anyone to take advantage of it if desired to be owner of a structure on land owned by someone else like co ltd or thai national

I am sorry, but what law did they tell you that? They are wrong, so are you, unfortunately...and I am correct. Sorry, it may just be that those lawyers and tessaban officials really do not understand the law...possible???

Tessabaan has never told me any law, I have presented to them what laws they must follow, and as said to lazy to look them up and easily available in ThaiVisa Real Estate Forum

your posts in this topic are most confusing, as you still have not presented any experience, facts, laws or court rulings, so its hard to get what you are "correct" about

fact is that I am registered owner in tessabaan and land office of structures in several provinces in this country, and land belongs to thai co ltd or thai national, and this is a solution easily available for any ThaiVisa reader by a simple readup in Real Estate Forum

Excellent, you presented them what laws? Please tell us, I mean the law that make you the owner of a building. You did it all over Thailand and you say its easy to look up.

If you are so certain that you actually legally own a structure in Thailand, then clearly you can tell us what law proves that, right?

IF you are a legal owner, it MUST be based on and come directly from a law(s)...what law(s), YOU are so certain, so WHAT law(s)? Very simple question.

If YOU are to lazy to follow advice in this topic to look it up here in ThaiVisa Real Estate Forum, I am sure just as lazy to look it up for you.

Edit. ok,ok, ok always at your service, this time with a tea spoon

one single click in above Forum found: Section 1410 in chapter III, book VI

still to lazy to look up my own dusty files tho

if I build again, it will be apartments/highrise on small land. Registering rights of use on land belonging to co ltd or thai national is inexpensive and bulletproof.

making sure I become the registered owner of building, reduces taxes/costs on securing ownership/control, reduces taxes on income from building, and directs later sales income from building directly to me

Now you might want to tell us why you consider it illegal and what makes you "correct"?

Excellent, now, finally, we are talking about law.

I do not believe I ever said a thing about "illegal".

I am not lazy, I just do not need your "realestate/law" forum...I just go to the law, thanks.

Now, back to the main point, you have referred us all to section 1410 of the Thai civil and commercial code. First of all, can you tell us how that supports the idea that the building permit makes you legal owner of your building?

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Excellent, now, finally, we are talking about law.

I do not believe I ever said a thing about "illegal".

I am not lazy, I just do not need your "realestate/law" forum...I just go to the law, thanks.

Now, back to the main point, you have referred us all to section 1410 of the Thai civil and commercial code. First of all, can you tell us how that supports the idea that the building permit makes you legal owner of your building?

It does not

Section 1410 in chapter III, book IV allows building and land to have separate owners. How to get there, to have land office register buildings ownership separate from land ownership and have this registration duplicated to tessabaans files, is previously described in this topic.

If you "just go to the law", you miss a lot. The practical way to obtain what law grants you, is not described in laws