You may want to check this post (and others by johpa) who has recent personal experience and his son was caught and not allowed to exit on Thai passport.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=482470&view=findpost&p=4650039

Maybe I have not made it clear the post is saying what I said you have to get the immigration to up date the computers before you leave. If an Australian leaves Australia on another passport and the returns on his/her Aust passport they will be stopped, as the holder of the Australian passport has not left the country. If you could enter a country on a passport that has not left, then you could post it to some one who looks like you and they could enter on your passport. Jim

you got thai citizenship when illegal in thailand, they can simply revoke your thai nationality.

if you were in the USA, they would take your US passport if they dicover an illegal alien apply for US citizen inside the country.

usually, you must be legal in the country to apply for citizenship.

it s the fault of thailand, so you may be not fined.

Jim - to be honest, you are now just being paranoid. I've explained to you how Thailand fundamentally views the immigration 'accounting'. To compare it to Australia, which doesn't even let its citizens travel in and out on non-Australian passports is just misleading and an incorrect analogy to boot.

I think someone kinda referred to this. the amount of time you overstayed depends on the date you received your Thai passport. The day you got your thai passport is the day you were no longer staying on your foreign passport. But you need to resolve it at immigration prior to trying to leave.

If you arrived on a foreign passport and your permitted stay has expired you are overstay until you leave on that passport and you will be fined; Thai or not. It is extremely easy to obtain a one year extension of stay if Thai but without doing that you will be treated as any other overstay.

I think someone kinda referred to this. the amount of time you overstayed depends on the date you received your Thai passport. The day you got your thai passport is the day you were no longer staying on your foreign passport. But you need to resolve it at immigration prior to trying to leave.

I think you are mistaken. As far as immigration is concerend, when entered on a foreign passport you need to leave on that foreign passport and during your stay you will need a valid permission to stay, regardless if you also have a Thai passport or not. If you also have a Thai passport, you simply show this to immigration and get an extension of stay every year, till you leave on your foreign passport and re-enter on the Thai passport.

Jim - to be honest, you are now just being paranoid. I've explained to you how Thailand fundamentally views the immigration 'accounting'. To compare it to Australia, which doesn't even let its citizens travel in and out on non-Australian passports is just misleading and an incorrect analogy to boot.

I'm afraid you lost me there, which countries allow feign passport holders to travel in and out without some form of visa. Thailand certainly doesn't, if you are a Thai national and arrive on another passport you need a visa, or visa on arrival.

They wouldn't just wave you through. Jim

Jim - I never said anything which you've just mentioned in your post. Where did I say Thailand would just wave you through?

Jim - I never said anything which you've just mentioned in your post. Where did I say Thailand would just wave you through?

Think we can put and end to this fairly easy. You say you can return to Thailand with a passport issued in Thailand that has no exit visa without a problem, as the owner was technically never in the country.

Has any member here with a Thai passport, wife or children on a Thai passport entered Thailand without the arrival paper, which is stapled in the passport on departure and just filled out a new one and has not been stopped so, as immigration can do a computer search to find the departure number. Jim

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Yes Jim - myself, my mother, my sisters and a bunch of spouses and children of board members.

you got thai citizenship when illegal in thailand, they can simply revoke your thai nationality.

if you were in the USA, they would take your US passport if they dicover an illegal alien apply for US citizen inside the country.

usually, you must be legal in the country to apply for citizenship.

it s the fault of thailand, so you may be not fined.

i did not get the thai citizenship when i whas illegal,i entered whit a non immigrant 0 visa whit multi entries.

they can not revoke my thai nationality ,as i have an original birthcertificate registered in Thailand.

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Yes Jim - myself, my mother, my sisters and a bunch of spouses and children of board members.

Ok samran will let this go now as it is going now where and I think you have a lot of things mixed up. I take it you and your friends are refugees and did not arrive in Australia on valid Thai passports. If not everyone of them will have a valid departure stamp etc on an old passport. Jim

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Yes Jim - myself, my mother, my sisters and a bunch of spouses and children of board members.

Ok samran will let this go now as it is going now where and I think you have a lot of things mixed up. I take it you and your friends are refugees and did not arrive in Australia on valid Thai passports. If not everyone of them will have a valid departure stamp etc on an old passport. Jim

I actually know what I am talking about here. I'm not a 'refugee'. Born in Australia in the 70's to a Thai mother and an Australian father.

I'm exactly the same as your daughter.

Have lived in Thailand full time since 2001.

Two children born in Thailand.

you got thai citizenship when illegal in thailand, they can simply revoke your thai nationality.

if you were in the USA, they would take your US passport if they dicover an illegal alien apply for US citizen inside the country.

usually, you must be legal in the country to apply for citizenship.

it s the fault of thailand, so you may be not fined.

another person who has no clue what they are talking about.

The OP is a Thai national by birth. He has always been a Thai citizen, and unless he chooses to formally renounce it, he shall always be a Thai citizen.

By quirk of circumstances and systems, he entered on a foreign passport, which as so far as Thai immigration is concerned, makes him subject of Thai immigration rules.

OP I will go over this one more time and try and keep it simple.

This year my youngest daughter arrived in Thailand on an Australian passport. We went to Ubon and got a Thai passport. When I had to do my 3 monthly border run she was on overstay.

Went to Chong Mek [Lao land border ] Head of immigration police fixed up the computer records and wrote on the passport. That the holder of this passport is departing Thailand on an Australian passport and returning on the Thai passport. we crossed in to Lao, entered and departed. At the Thai passport control, the Thai passport was handed over, the officer on duty took the passport to his boss to confirm, then came back and stamped her return.

Simple as that. Jim

OP I will go over this one more time and try and keep it simple.

This year my youngest daughter arrived in Thailand on an Australian passport. We went to Ubon and got a Thai passport. When I had to do my 3 monthly border run she was on overstay.

Went to Chong Mek [Lao land border ] Head of immigration police fixed up the computer records and wrote on the passport. That the holder of this passport is departing Thailand on an Australian passport and returning on the Thai passport. we crossed in to Lao, entered and departed. At the Thai passport control, the Thai passport was handed over, the officer on duty took the passport to his boss to confirm, then came back and stamped her return.

Simple as that. Jim

You should have mentioned this at the beginning.

Crossing land borders generally requires you to have the 'exit' stamp in your Thai passport for you to re-enter. So yes, you are right.

However, for whatever reasons, immigration at the airports, especially Bangkok, don't require this.

Doing the passport swap at a land border, like your daughter did, doesn't work for most. I dare say you were lucky to get a good immigration officer and it often becomes a bit of a drama for all involved. (for the record, the first time I entered Thailand on my Thai passport- without an exit stamp, was at the Malaysia-Thai border. It took much explaining, and they eventually relented. Many, many posters at Thai Visa trying to do a passport swap at a land border haven't been as lucky as your daughter or myself)

At airports, none of that is required. They just swipe you though with no pissing about.

Glad we cleared that one up!

Edited September 22, 201114 yr by samran

nb too James,

the point I have been trying to make is that if a Thai citizen is born overseas, on their first return to Thailand using a Thai passport, there is no way that they can have an exit stamp from Thailand given that they've never been there!