Liv 52 - Liver Protection Medicine

[Aquarius83]

Hi guys,

does anyone know that does any Pharmacy or Sport supplement store in Bangkok sell this product?

It should look something like this:

[geriatrickid]

Go to an Indian neighborhood or where there is a large concentration of Indians. The shops that service Indians are most likely to have some stock. As this is not a classified as a drug, but is registered as a "natural" food supplement, it falls outside the standard pharmacovigilance framework.

Now that I have helped you throw away your money, I do wish to offer my opinion that the product is all but useless. The reduction of alcohol, high fat intake and redmeat will achieve the desired results. Although the Indian manufacturers make claims of efficacy, I have yet to read any clinical studies that support the claims made in some jurisdictions. Note too that the product is marketed as "Livercare" in some markets and the claims made are not the same as those found on Indian based websites.

[lopburi3]

Suspect it is probably as useful as below; but that is just a guess.

[Aquarius83]

Go to an Indian neighborhood or where there is a large concentration of Indians. The shops that service Indians are most likely to have some stock. As this is not a classified as a drug, but is registered as a "natural" food supplement, it falls outside the standard pharmacovigilance framework.

Now that I have helped you throw away your money, I do wish to offer my opinion that the product is all but useless. The reduction of alcohol, high fat intake and redmeat will achieve the desired results. Although the Indian manufacturers make claims of efficacy, I have yet to read any clinical studies that support the claims made in some jurisdictions. Note too that the product is marketed as "Livercare" in some markets and the claims made are not the same as those found on Indian based websites.

Hmm. thanks for the tip. Maybe i go to walk around in Pratunam.

I know a lots of bodybuilders who say that Liv 52 has really work for them when they have a high stress on their liver. And they have took liver tests with and without it, otherwise under same circumstances.

Should be more helpful than Milk Thistle (Silymarin).

[bunnaag]

I was told Vitamin B is helpful.B6-B12.

[dotx]

You can buy also milk thistle. It's very, very good.

[seedy]

I have taken milk thistle for the last few years, and it has worked well for me.

Maybe some of the health care Pro's which frequent the Forum can weigh in with an opinion.

[Aquarius83]

You can buy also milk thistle. It's very, very good.

Many people say that Liv 52 would be better.

But anyway, where can i buy Milk thistle?

What i found in some Pharmacy the Silymarin dosage was so low that should eat the tablets with spoon like cereals and it would cost like hell.

Edit: Could you please put the price and dosage what you have?

Edited October 5, 2011 by Aquarius83

[Aquarius83]

You can buy also milk thistle. It's very, very good.

Many people say that Liv 52 would be better.

But anyway, where can i buy Milk thistle?

What i found in some Pharmacy the Silymarin dosage was so low that should eat the tablets with spoon like cereals and it would cost like hell.

Edit: Could you please put the price and dosage what you have?

Actually the local Pharmacist said he haves Silymarin (Samarin 140mg) and the price is 45b for 10tabs. He usually gives very good prices.

[septeen]

Liv 52 is actually a herb called picroriza kurroa. . Contrary to another respondent's criticism, this herb has been well-tested and is effective. I have used it and also, milk thistle. Blood tests before and after showed that it worked. I am currently looking for Liv 52 in E. Europe. if you know someone in America you can get it from Swansons in a formula called Liver Essentials. -S.

[Wrong Turn]

I was told Vitamin B is helpful.B6-B12.

A retired Nurse I know told me B-1 Thiamen is very healthy for the liver. It's included in the Vitamin B-complex vitamins.

[alexth]

What about Hepacap?

[poanoi]

Beer supposedly contain vitimine B, which is supposedly good for the liver

[tropo]

I know a lots of bodybuilders who say that Liv 52 has really work for them when they have a high stress on their liver. And they have took liver tests with and without it, otherwise under same circumstances.

Should be more helpful than Milk Thistle (Silymarin).

The way you've worded this one could be misled to believe that bodybuilding causes stress on the liver. The only time a bodybuilder will "have a high stress on their liver" is through the consumption of oral anabolic steroids or other oral supporting drugs and some injectable drugs.

Only fools take these to gain muscle. Once they are discontinued the muscle will soon disappear. It's a heavy price to pay - trading liver health for temporary muscle gain.

[robblok]

I know a lots of bodybuilders who say that Liv 52 has really work for them when they have a high stress on their liver. And they have took liver tests with and without it, otherwise under same circumstances.

Should be more helpful than Milk Thistle (Silymarin).

The way you've worded this one could be misled to believe that bodybuilding causes stress on the liver. The only time a bodybuilder will "have a high stress on their liver" is through the consumption of oral anabolic steroids or other oral supporting drugs and some injectable drugs.

Only fools take these to gain muscle. Once they are discontinued the muscle will soon disappear. It's a heavy price to pay - trading liver health for temporary muscle gain.

I have to disagree, the muscle does not disappear. I dont say its a smart thing to do. I have done it twice in my life and i must say the muscle did not go away. Its not something you should do often that is for sure.

[tropo]

I have to disagree, the muscle does not disappear. I dont say its a smart thing to do. I have done it twice in my life and i must say the muscle did not go away. Its not something you should do often that is for sure.

It does worse than disappear - the steroid user will more often than not end up with a messed up hormonal system with lower natural production of testosterone. Most users will end up with less muscle and more fat. Perhaps bodyweight could stay the same, but percentages of fat and muscle will be different due to lower natural test production.

Obviously this will depend on the level of steroid use i.e. How much you used, what you used, how long you used them, how much you relied on them and whether or not you undertook aggressive PCT after you stopped (most steroid users don't).

Please be aware that in the context of this thread I'm mainly referring to oral anabolic steroids which put heavy stress on the liver.

Edited March 3, 2012 by tropo

[robblok]

I have to disagree, the muscle does not disappear. I dont say its a smart thing to do. I have done it twice in my life and i must say the muscle did not go away. Its not something you should do often that is for sure.

It does worse than disappear - the steroid user will more often than not end up with a messed up hormonal system with lower natural production of testosterone. Most users will end up with less muscle and more fat. Perhaps bodyweight could stay the same, but percentages of fat and muscle will be different due to lower natural test production.

Obviously this will depend on the level of steroid use i.e. How much you used, what you used, how long you used them, how much you relied on them and whether or not you undertook aggressive PCT after you stopped (most steroid users don't).

Please be aware that in the context of this thread I'm mainly referring to oral anabolic steroids which put heavy stress the liver.

I have to agree here most of the time orals are not a good idea. There are some exceptions but that is too much to go into.