Removal Of Don Muang Airport Big Bag Barriers Draws Condemnation

[TAWP]

The rights and wrongs are not for me but opening the sandbags has an impact on other people

But keeping that has an impact to others (who already got too much, ans still getting daily)

who should have.a chance to prepare.

4 months passed now for the whole soap water opera.

1 month for those on the wet side. Include me.

If they not prepared YET - then they deserve this. Im sorry, but ANYTHING to move this wet shit from my house!!!

They are STILL not prepared...how pathetic. Im going to cry to the cameras.

FYI, those on dry areas not preparing at all - they are playing LoiKratong for example. They simply don't care this all.

Take a glass, start drinking the water away.

If you have no compassion for others, you deserve none yourself.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I've been following pretty much all of the pertinent Twitter news on the floods... Looking over the past hour so far, I just see mention about part of the Big Bag barrier being dismantled, one section... and posts about the PM supposedly saying it wasn't done under FROC's orders...

Nothing about any big kind of water release suddenly threatening new areas...at least not that I'm seeing as yet.

And also about the arrest of the guy who punched Karun, with the former saying he acted out of anger after waves from Karun's jetski capsized his boat.

And other:

@Diaw_NBC: MP Karun has allegedly told protesters he would lead move to dismantle big bags himself if nothing's done tmrrw. #ch3

tulsathit Govt has denied it agreed to remove Don Muang big bags. (MP Karun Hosakul had said he represented FROC in reaching deal with protesters)

From what I'm reading, FROC this evening came out to publicly deny earlier reports that it had agreed to remove some of the bags by 6pm today to make a 30 meter opening. That followed protests by residents from more than 20 communities in Don Muang district.

@Neaw_NBC: 5.25 pm. FROC confident Victory Monument won't b flooded. All roads in Bkk to b usable in 7-10 days. #smsMCOT

Edited November 13, 2011 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[robblok]

The rights and wrongs are not for me but opening the sandbags has an impact on other people

But keeping that has an impact to others (who already got too much, ans still getting daily)

who should have.a chance to prepare.

4 months passed now for the whole soap water opera.

1 month for those on the wet side. Include me.

If they not prepared YET - then they deserve this. Im sorry, but ANYTHING to move this wet shit from my house!!!

They are STILL not prepared...how pathetic. Im going to cry to the cameras.

FYI, those on dry areas not preparing at all - they are playing LoiKratong for example. They simply don't care this all.

Take a glass, start drinking the water away.

If you have no compassion for others, you deserve none yourself.

I can understand him, he has been flooded for a month. Much deeper as i am no electricity nothing. So cut the guy some slack. Thing is everyone knows water is coming and if you still did not prepare then something is wrong.

Its not like opening this barrier is going to flood other area's instantly it will go slow like it has always gone.

Its easy for people who are high and dry make comments on others who are wet and stressed out. I know that i had it pretty bad a few weeks ago with water rising flooding my house not knowing when it would stop. Only to hear we should take it for BKK. While i was saying BKK should take as much water as they can.

How opinions change as more people get affected all the time. I can understand people wanting to stay dry but 20cm of water in the streets wont stop bkk it will still go on just like it does here. But once you get more then a meter things stop.

[Skywalker69]

When you look and see how much the Govt is going to compensate the factories etc, it really appears that they care little about the people.

No-no, no any double standarts here. We have The True, The Reddest possible democracy here, haven't we?? Everyone will get rich soon!

And....this won't affect tourism after all - shopping centers still open. Just be patient, try to keep your Burberies dry, avoid crocodiles and queue your stand for FREE 5000 (if you lucky to be among "qualified")....

So very true and so very sad!

[alexakap]

Take a glass, start drinking the water away.

If you have no compassion for others, you deserve none yourself.

Will a million of my compassions move the water out of the area which is flooded? No.

Then I prefer not to waste my time to that. Im sorry, but I am sick with those high words daily - and the water is still here.

I have no temper, no compassions and no trusts to any words left. I just want this all over, regardless the price.

Are you not prepared yet? I am sorry for you and that's all I have to say.Please cry to those in charge, but not to me - Im helpless here.

Now, let's start to move water out.

[hellodolly]

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<br />When you look and see how much the Govt is going to compensate the factories etc, it really appears that they care little about the people.  <br />

<br />No-no, no any double standarts here. We have The True, The Reddest possible democracy here, haven't we?? Everyone will get rich soon!<br />And....this won't affect tourism after all - shopping centers still open. Just be patient, try to keep your Burberies dry, avoid crocodiles and queue your stand for FREE 5000 (if you lucky to be among "qualified").... <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br />

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You forgot the green mambas.

[alexakap]

FYI, those on dry areas not preparing at all - they are playing LoiKratong for example. They simply don't care this all.

I love this one:

[alexakap]

You forgot the green mambas.

Nope - see the pic in my prev. post.

They are there. And Burberries too.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

See if you can follow this account of what supposedly was happening out there:

The protests from local residents first led authorities to allow a two meter gap in the barrier to release water. The gap was later widened to six meters.

But yesterday the gap was sealed. Then later, local residents returned and tried to open the gap back to six meters again as police and soldiers looked on.

[Skywalker69]

Take a glass, start drinking the water away.

If you have no compassion for others, you deserve none yourself.

Will a million of my compassions move the water out of the area which is flooded? No.

Then I prefer not to waste my time to that. Im sorry, but I am sick with those high words daily - and the water is still here.

I have no temper, no compassions and no trusts to any words left. I just want this all over, regardless the price.

Are you not prepared yet? I am sorry for you and that's all I have to say.Please cry to those in charge, but not to me - Im helpless here.

Now, let's start to move water out.

I have my house in Min Buri and it´s not flooded(yet) I would gladly take some water to ease your burdon, you have my sympati.

Hang in there.

[TAWP]

Take a glass, start drinking the water away.

If you have no compassion for others, you deserve none yourself.

Will a million of my compassions move the water out of the area which is flooded? No.

Then I prefer not to waste my time to that. Im sorry, but I am sick with those high words daily - and the water is still here.

I have no temper, no compassions and no trusts to any words left. I just want this all over, regardless the price.

Are you not prepared yet? I am sorry for you and that's all I have to say.Please cry to those in charge, but not to me - Im helpless here.

Now, let's start to move water out.

If you think flooding out the non hi-so areas south of DM will make it better for you guys up there, then you are delusional. It will however make sure a lot more people have no ability to make a living. And some of the help-work we now do far north will be done closer to the center of the city.

[dru2]

I live far to the north away from the floods, but I have the greatest sympathy with the flooded people of Nonthaburi and around.

Those who object to the tearing down of the Big Bag barrier should ask themselves whether it is Inner Bangkok or the flooded industrial estates of Ayutthaya, Lopburi and elsewhere that really support the Thai economy. Silom produces little but banking and bonuses, much like Wall Street and The City.

If I were in Nonthaburi I would not be prepared to spend a month in dirty, stagnant water up to my waist or higher for the business elite of Silom and Inner Bangkok. And don't tell me the authorities are saving Inner Bangkok for the slum dwellers and impoverished masses that live on the edges of Fat Cat City.

If I were a Nonthaburi Thai, I would be tearing down the Big Bag barrier too. Good luck to them. At least we know that when push comes to shove PTT is just as "amart" as the Democrats!

[hellodolly]

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<br />The rights and wrongs are not for me but opening the sandbags has an impact on other people <br />

<br />But keeping that has an impact to others (who already got too much, ans still getting daily)<br /><br />

<br />who should have.a chance to prepare.

<br />4 months passed now for the whole <strike>soap</strike> water opera.<br />1 month for those on the wet side. Include me.<br />If they not prepared YET - then they deserve this. Im sorry, but ANYTHING to move this wet shit from my house!!! <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/annoyed.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <br />They are STILL not prepared...how pathetic. Im going to cry to the cameras.<br /><br />FYI, those on dry areas not preparing at all - they are playing LoiKratong for example. They simply don't care this all.<br />

<br /><br />Take a glass, start drinking the water away.<br /><br />If you have no compassion for others, you deserve none yourself.<br />

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And you have compassion for people who stand a chance of getting flooded out and refuse to do any thing to prepare for it.

You expect people who have all ready been flooded out with no relief in sight from the government to feel compassion for the idiots who don't prepare as best they can.

In my opinion your compassion is misplaced.

[alexakap]

See if you can follow this account of what supposedly was happening out there:

The protests from local residents first led authorities to allow a two meter gap in the barrier to release water. The gap was later widened to six meters.

But yesterday the gap was sealed. Then later, local residents returned and tried to open the gap back to six meters again as police and soldiers looked on.

It is just a smart plan of those wise guys from FROC. We all are well protected now - right as promised.

Just be patient - within 1 month everything will be over...See attached.

Autthaya: No FROC there, no bigbagbarrier there. 1 month, water gone by itself.

BanBuaThong: No FROC there, no bigbagbarrier there. 1 month, water gone by itself.

Pathumthani: No FROC there, no bigbagbarrier there. 1 month already, water receding by itself.

Bkk: FROC here, bigbarrier here,orean pumps here. Will be dry before New Year, as promised...

The question is: what is the purpose of having FROCs, barriers, pumps and a whole bunch of those incompetent clowns?

[alexakap]

I have my house in Min Buri and it´s not flooded(yet) I would gladly take some water to ease your burdon, you have my sympati.

Hang in there.

Some?

Emmm...let me think......how about 1.5m? I'll still have some for others...

[Scott]

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[robblok]

Alexakap,

Bang Bua Thong, that is where i am (Bang yai) all close together. The water is gone from my house but there is still a lot of water. Thank god i never got it so bad as you.

You don't have power, you have to swim to get supplies. Your house is much more damaged as mine. I really understand your frustration.

Then a dam that protects others but keeps the water at your and other places is build. I would not like that either. Every area is making progress but those areas flooded in front of the wall are not.

[alexakap]

If you think flooding out the non hi-so areas south of DM will make it better for you guys up there, then you are delusional. It will however make sure a lot more people have no ability to make a living. And some of the help-work we now do far north will be done closer to the center of the city.

I didn't say "FLOOD THOSE HI-SO!"

I said "Move water outta here".

Feel the difference.

If those in charge decide to flood hi-so's - so be it.

If they decide just to pump out the small waterchannels here (pumps still here, but noone to operate them) - then so be it.

I pay my taxes to let them manage the things, and make right decisions. But...the thing is that NOONE doing ANYTHING. Water just stays on its own. Is it a wise plan to keep it until it "patiently" evaporated? Of course it will....sooner or later.....

[givenall]

Have they done this already? Anything to get the water out of my area, great!

Yeah Lets share the Pain, and destroy more lives and properties

[petedk]

Posted Today, 13:48

The deputy Bangkok governor strongly objects the removal of Big Bag barriers at Don Muang Airport, fearing drastic impacts could follow./TAN_Network

TPBS: Govt has caved in to protest by people demanding removal of big bag barriers on outbound Vibhavadi Rd in Don Muang./via@tulsathit

2:12pm FROC let DonMueng locals dissemble big bag barrier on Vipawadee outbound rd, to let water flow into PremPraChakorn canal.~@Neaw_NBC/via@Tulip_Oum

L.B

2.20pm:FROC to remove more big bags on Vibhavadi outbound near Don Mueang within 6pm tomorrow following demanding of DM residents #ThaiPBS/via@tukky_nt

L.B

PM affirms that there will be no removal of the Big Bag barricade at Don Muang Airport/TAN_Network

Whether FROC to remove the big bags at DM or not residents already removing them.3.56pm http://t.co/8gpKZXkj via @TayaTeepsuwan/via@tukky_nt

Posted Today, 15:55

Head of DonMueng Community told @news1005fm that PT MP,Keng Karun told them FROC allow them to dissemble the barrier.~@LyNGinG/via@Tulip_Oum

Posted Today, 16:18

Twenty Don Muang representatives gather to pressure the government to remove the big bag barricades, else they'd close the tollway./TAN_Network

Posted Today, 16:51

PM Yingluck rejects FROC order to dismantle Big Bag barrier at Don Mueang, says centre to speed up draining water instead, to rehabilitate residents outside barrier/MCOT

L.B

Posted Today, 17:06

Govt has denied it agreed to remove Don Muang big bags. (MP Karun Hosakul had said he represented FROC in reaching deal with protesters)/via@tulsathit

L.B

Posted Today, 17:19

TR @Diaw_NBC: MP Karun has allegedly told protesters he would lead move to dismantle big bags himself if nothing's done tmrrw. #ch3/via@tulsathit

TR @Kang_NT: Anon says opening big bag barriers at Don Muang could cause floods as far south as Silom area /via@tulsathit

Dr Seri also says a 6-meter gap at big bag barrier at Don Muang won't affect inner Bkk much./via@tulsathit

Taken from the Thailand Live Sunday.

No wonder we are confused. It seems there are so many contradictions to everything that is reported.

Have the bags been removed? Who has (will)? order the removal?

Will the removal affect inner Bangkok as far as Silom or won't inner Bangkok be affected much?

[alexakap]

Have they done this already? Anything to get the water out of my area, great!

Yeah Lets share the Pain, and destroy more lives and properties

Noooo. Let's someone keep getting your fate just to keep your arse comfortable dry - and without the chance of ANY compensation...this is what you saying.

Ok, I;ll hold your part of water. Will you come after, and repair my house from your own pocket money? What? No?

The chat is over then.

Edited November 13, 2011 by alexakap

[robblok]

Posted Today, 13:48

The deputy Bangkok governor strongly objects the removal of Big Bag barriers at Don Muang Airport, fearing drastic impacts could follow./TAN_Network

TPBS: Govt has caved in to protest by people demanding removal of big bag barriers on outbound Vibhavadi Rd in Don Muang./via@tulsathit

2:12pm FROC let DonMueng locals dissemble big bag barrier on Vipawadee outbound rd, to let water flow into PremPraChakorn canal.~@Neaw_NBC/via@Tulip_Oum

L.B

2.20pm:FROC to remove more big bags on Vibhavadi outbound near Don Mueang within 6pm tomorrow following demanding of DM residents #ThaiPBS/via@tukky_nt

L.B

PM affirms that there will be no removal of the Big Bag barricade at Don Muang Airport/TAN_Network

Whether FROC to remove the big bags at DM or not residents already removing them.3.56pm http://t.co/8gpKZXkj via @TayaTeepsuwan/via@tukky_nt

Posted Today, 15:55

Head of DonMueng Community told @news1005fm that PT MP,Keng Karun told them FROC allow them to dissemble the barrier.~@LyNGinG/via@Tulip_Oum

Posted Today, 16:18

Twenty Don Muang representatives gather to pressure the government to remove the big bag barricades, else they'd close the tollway./TAN_Network

Posted Today, 16:51

PM Yingluck rejects FROC order to dismantle Big Bag barrier at Don Mueang, says centre to speed up draining water instead, to rehabilitate residents outside barrier/MCOT

L.B

Posted Today, 17:06

Govt has denied it agreed to remove Don Muang big bags. (MP Karun Hosakul had said he represented FROC in reaching deal with protesters)/via@tulsathit

L.B

Posted Today, 17:19

TR @Diaw_NBC: MP Karun has allegedly told protesters he would lead move to dismantle big bags himself if nothing's done tmrrw. #ch3/via@tulsathit

TR @Kang_NT: Anon says opening big bag barriers at Don Muang could cause floods as far south as Silom area /via@tulsathit

Dr Seri also says a 6-meter gap at big bag barrier at Don Muang won't affect inner Bkk much./via@tulsathit

Taken from the Thailand Live Sunday.

No wonder we are confused. It seems there are so many contradictions to everything that is reported.

Have the bags been removed? Who has (will)? order the removal?

Will the removal affect inner Bangkok as far as Silom or won't inner Bangkok be affected much?

I am 100% Silom wont notice this until a few weeks has passed. Water travels here real slow. So you got plenty of time to prepare (if it even hits Silom)

[alexakap]

So you got plenty of time to prepare (if it even hits Silom)

Based on this, it will:

(Netherlands Chamber of Commerce Flooding Document)

Those guys know their task well...

[Skywalker69]

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<br />When you look and see how much the Govt is going to compensate the factories etc, it really appears that they care little about the people. <br />

<br />No-no, no any double standarts here. We have The True, The Reddest possible democracy here, haven't we?? Everyone will get rich soon!<br />And....this won't affect tourism after all - shopping centers still open. Just be patient, try to keep your Burberies dry, avoid crocodiles and queue your stand for FREE 5000 (if you lucky to be among "qualified").... <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br />

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You forgot the green mambas.

The green mambas was a hoax.

[alexakap]

I also love this:

To those who can't read thai:

Left: Then: Why is heaven bullying me by refusing to let me become PM for another term?

Right: Now: Thanks to heaven for refusing to let me becoming PM at this time.

[Skywalker69]

I have my house in Min Buri and it´s not flooded(yet) I would gladly take some water to ease your burdon, you have my sympati.

Hang in there.

Some?

Emmm...let me think......how about 1.5m? I'll still have some for others...

I have three steps before entering the house, can you make it 60-70 cm?

[alexakap]

I have my house in Min Buri and it´s not flooded(yet) I would gladly take some water to ease your burdon, you have my sympati.

Hang in there.

Some?

Emmm...let me think......how about 1.5m? I'll still have some for others...

I have three steps before entering the house, can you make it 60-70 cm?

I have one step (now it is lost somewhere in the deeps).

So take it or leave it. The offer is limited - soon this all will evaporate, and you'll lose your chance for the next 50 years (or till the next rainy season - who knows those idiots in charge...)!

[Skywalker69]

I have my house in Min Buri and it´s not flooded(yet) I would gladly take some water to ease your burdon, you have my sympati.

Hang in there.

Some?

Emmm...let me think......how about 1.5m? I'll still have some for others...

I have three steps before entering the house, can you make it 60-70 cm?

I have one step (now it is lost somewhere in the deeps).

So take it or leave it. The offer is limited - soon this all will evaporate, and you'll lose your chance for the next 50 years (or till the next rainy season - who knows those idiots in charge...)!

Bring it on and good luck to you!

[alexakap]

R @Kang_NT: Dr Anon of FROC's drainage team urges Don Muang residents to be patient

Arrrggghhh.........Same s_hit, another day...."be patient"......

[alexakap]

Dr Seri: If Bang Chan and Lad Krabang industrial estates hold on for 1 more week, they'll be safe./via@tulsathit

I have deja vu....I've read this last week!!!