Illegal To Teach Without Licence?

[NotEinstein]

I met a guy yesterday at an inter-school event who is a salaried teacher with a contract, B-visa and work-permit, but no TCT licence or waiver. The attempt to obtain a waiver was rejected on the grounds that he does not have a degree (he does have a TEFL cert.)

Is he teaching illegally and subject to the consequences?

[aidenai]

The regulations set by The Teachers' Council of Thailand don't apply to ALL educational institutions in Thailand. In general one could say that the TCT regulations apply to K12 private or government schools.

The TCT describes the teaching profession as a licensed one. At this very moment the TCT has Immigration and Labour to enforce its rules.

Having said this, I think that when a teacher has a work permit and a legal and appropriate permission of stay in The Kingdom, the teacher is not teaching illegally and wouldn't be subjected to heavy fines or deportation.

[djbarry]

i agree..the person has been granted permission to work on the basis of the paperwork that he/she has produced...

David

Nonthaburi

[thaicbr]

he probably has a teachers licence waiver. they are good for 2 years.

[puchooay]

he probably has a teachers licence waiver. they are good for 2 years.

The OP stated that the waiver was refused. Barring a mistake at Labour and Immigration, unlikely, it is possible that his work permit and extension were obtained illegally.

[thaicbr]

he probably has a teachers licence waiver. they are good for 2 years.

The OP stated that the waiver was refused. Barring a mistake at Labour and Immigration, unlikely, it is possible that his work permit and extension were obtained illegally.

Or more likely that his local immigration and labour dept know the teachers licence is a crock of <deleted> and dont bother with it any more... At least it would be nice for them to show some common sense....

[KKvampire]

All this Teachers licence, Culture test etc is for what ? To get a higher standard of foreign teachers(on the salaries they pay here) To improve the standard of Thai students education. Does it fairycakes...It;s about more of what the Thais are good at, bureacracy/paperwork

[Scott]

Not that it couldn't happen, but I have never heard of the police or anyone asking you to produce a Teacher's License.

My suggestion to the guy would be to not leave his current employment. His next go around attempt may be less to his liking.

I know a guy who is in his late 50's. He worked for a number of years with a non-immigrant visa and work permit for a language school. He decided to 'upgrade' to a better, more stable job. Unfortunately, he was denied a TL, he can't get a WP and is relegated to border runs on Tourist visas.

[Mario2008]

Immigration will for example only ask for a teaching license when you apply for an extension based on your teaching job. If you apply for an extension of stay based on marriage, they tell you they don't care about the teaching license if you use your income from teaching for the marriage extension. (Of course experiences may vary per immigration office)

[puchooay]

Immigration will for example only ask for a teaching license when you apply for an extension based on your teaching job. If you apply for an extension of stay based on marriage, they tell you they don't care about the teaching license if you use your income from teaching for the marriage extension. (Of course experiences may vary per immigration office)

I agree Mario but the major player where I am with regards to "must have a licence or waiver" is the Labour Department. Cannot get a Work Permit for being married.!!!!

[Scott]

You should be able to get a work permit for being married. For some people it's damned hard work!

At any rate, there are some teaching jobs that don't require a Teacher's License, such as teaching in Universities. There may be others as well. For the vast majority of people teaching in public and private schools under the MOE curriculum, you are technically required to have a TL or waiver to get the Work Permit.