katabeachbum Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 How much are those 'security guards' paid? Who in their right mind would trust them to actually stop (or be aware of) criminals. Burglaries in L&H Park are in general in empty homes, and there are in low season perhaps +70% empty homes. Not a typical community. Guards do indeed prevent and stop burglaries, for one thing its hard to leave the estate with a pickup full of stolen goods It seems in Rawai there are more reports of burglaries while people are asleep, a much more scary scenario. In addition the road robbers by bike is scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 How much are those 'security guards' paid? Who in their right mind would trust them to actually stop (or be aware of) criminals. Burglaries in L&H Park are in general in empty homes, and there are in low season perhaps +70% empty homes. Not a typical community. Guards do indeed prevent and stop burglaries, for one thing its hard to leave the estate with a pickup full of stolen goods It seems in Rawai there are more reports of burglaries while people are asleep, a much more scary scenario. In addition the road robbers by bike is scary But, as I posted before, I have heard about far fewer acquaintances being robbed in the last couple of years. There was also a 'gang' involved in bike robberies around the Sai Yuan area (again, a couple of years back). I haven't heard any recent reports though, so assume the police have 'cracked down' and found them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Statistics is not a big part of policing, trying to reduce them is It might surprise you how many english speaking Thais follow this forum yep 7 members and 28 guests reading this topic right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamos Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Statistics is not a big part of policing, trying to reduce them is It might surprise you how many english speaking Thais follow this forum Yes I always look forward to the top cop of Chalong Boonlert Onglkan's weekly wrap up on Thaivisa. Police not having statistics is kinda like not counting runs in cricket, It seems kinda weird that there is no measure of the performance of both volunteer and regular police. How do the authorities know where to deploy their resources? Do they read last weeks PG and then hit that part of town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 But, as I posted before, I have heard about far fewer acquaintances being robbed in the last couple of years. There was also a 'gang' involved in bike robberies around the Sai Yuan area (again, a couple of years back). I haven't heard any recent reports though, so assume the police have 'cracked down' and found them. there have been some recent road robbers here in Kata Karon. Patak road between the banks in Karon and Karon temple. Seems like they hang around bars to find victims, as they rob girls loaded with gold by kicking their bikes over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barka Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Statistics is not a big part of policing, trying to reduce them is It might surprise you how many english speaking Thais follow this forum Yes I always look forward to the top cop of Chalong Boonlert Onglkan's weekly wrap up on Thaivisa. Police not having statistics is kinda like not counting runs in cricket, It seems kinda weird that there is no measure of the performance of both volunteer and regular police. How do the authorities know where to deploy their resources? Do they read last weeks PG and then hit that part of town? Snamos,youve got no chance of finding these stats ...the cops dont know either,forget it,its like the lottery, pick some numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Snamos,youve got no chance of finding these stats ...the cops dont know either,forget it,its like the lottery, pick some numbers with 1000 paid cops in Phuket and +1million actual residents pluss the tourists, they simply dont read stats, just have time to put out fires. and issue traffic fines up their monthly max commision on fines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiIand Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) i left for a week in phuket town. when i came back my bike was outside my gate. At least our bike thiefs are incompetant compared to rawai. No security on my bike. Thais are amazing. a 12yo kid from a rich family with no friend and no knowledge outside magic the gathering could steal a scooter in the west. Edited December 8, 2011 by thaiIand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamos Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 i left for a week in phuket town. when i came back my bike was outside my gate. At least our bike thiefs are incompetant compared to rawai. No security on my bike. Thais are amazing. a 12yo kid from a rich family with no friend and no knowledge outside magic the gathering could steal a scooter in the west. perhaps they werent interested in a 1977 honda dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 i left for a week in phuket town. when i came back my bike was outside my gate. At least our bike thiefs are incompetant compared to rawai. No security on my bike. Thais are amazing. a 12yo kid from a rich family with no friend and no knowledge outside magic the gathering could steal a scooter in the west. perhaps they werent interested in a 1977 honda dream memory light? hes got a fino we frequently forget key in bike here in Kata, and nothings happend for 9 years. While at a friends house they climbed over the 2 meter perimeterwall to steel his bike locked with chain, lifting it over the wall. we v got the same nouvos, so it wasnt the bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 It seems to me that there's a hint of jealousy from the posters that constantly slag off Rawai. (you know who you are) Maybe they've noticed that there's a real community feel about the place, and that there are many up-market places opening up (as well as our very own Supercheap!). I think they look at the socially desolate places that they have chosen to live and realise that they made a wrong move. Rawai has no more crime than anywhere else on the island, probably less than a lot of places. Good post, i agree and we both live in Rawai so should know No crime where we live and we are only 500 metres from the beach front No, what it means is that you both live in Rawai and are therefore biased. What has distance from the beach front got to do with crime? From the reporting on TV and PG (see links I supplied), I would have to somewhat agree with KBB. Phuket Town first, then Kathu, Patong and Rawai roughly the same. I don't follow your logic there...we live in Rawai and are therefore biased? We live in Rawai because we took a good look round the island before settling in what is obviously the best place to live. As I said before, there's lots of other places on the island with more crime than Rawai. Quoting ancient PG articles to support your argument is a bit pathetic, sounds like you're desperate to put Rawai down any way you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsaw Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 It seems to me that there's a hint of jealousy from the posters that constantly slag off Rawai. (you know who you are) Maybe they've noticed that there's a real community feel about the place, and that there are many up-market places opening up (as well as our very own Supercheap!). I think they look at the socially desolate places that they have chosen to live and realise that they made a wrong move. Rawai has no more crime than anywhere else on the island, probably less than a lot of places. Yeah but this works the other way round too You live in Rawai and slag off other areas saying they are socially desolate. My opinion of Rawai is that it does attract more crime than other areas of the island (per capita).....maybe I am wrong but I wouldn't want to live there anyhow. I'm not slagging off other areas, just pointing out that other places don't have the same community atmosphere that we enjoy here - i.e. socially desolate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamos Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I've lived in kata, Rawaii and chalong. chalong is the best so far, kata second and Rawaii 3rd. I will be moving to Phuket town in the next couple of years though. Each to their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 It seems to me that there's a hint of jealousy from the posters that constantly slag off Rawai. (you know who you are) Maybe they've noticed that there's a real community feel about the place, and that there are many up-market places opening up (as well as our very own Supercheap!). I think they look at the socially desolate places that they have chosen to live and realise that they made a wrong move. Rawai has no more crime than anywhere else on the island, probably less than a lot of places. Good post, i agree and we both live in Rawai so should know No crime where we live and we are only 500 metres from the beach front No, what it means is that you both live in Rawai and are therefore biased. What has distance from the beach front got to do with crime? From the reporting on TV and PG (see links I supplied), I would have to somewhat agree with KBB. Phuket Town first, then Kathu, Patong and Rawai roughly the same. I don't follow your logic there...we live in Rawai and are therefore biased? We live in Rawai because we took a good look round the island before settling in what is obviously the best place to live. As I said before, there's lots of other places on the island with more crime than Rawai. Quoting ancient PG articles to support your argument is a bit pathetic, sounds like you're desperate to put Rawai down any way you can! Of course you're biased. You claiming that you don't have "a dog in this race"? How did you arrive that Rawai has less crime before moving there? Look at PG articles? Talked to cops? Talked to the bar-stool experts? Sounds like you're desperate to convince people that Rawai is safer than other areas. Selling your house, are you? What has crime got to do with "community feeling". They aren't connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiIand Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 dont forget that rawai's chefs are actually only able to open a can of spam and frying it. There is 0 restaurant in that area outside mexicali and saigon that would ever make it in a western country. terrible cooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercallen Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 The usual bashers and people who talk codswallop are having a go just ignore them They have no idea about Rawai and probably cannot afford to live there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiIand Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) peter you really love to post a wrong answer in every single thread? Rawai is the CHEAPEST town on this island.You can get 4br 2 story house with pool(granted its cheap furniture and smelly house) for 20k baht.. in most towns you dont get much for 20k Edited December 8, 2011 by thaiIand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamos Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Isn't Rawaii the cheapest in Phuket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Isn't Rawaii the cheapest in Phuket? I don't know about house rental prices, but, land prices are nowhere near the cheapest on the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamos Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Where is the cheapest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I would hazard a guess at the NE, or central east (inland). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercallen Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) peter you really love to post a wrong answer in every single thread? Rawai is the CHEAPEST town on this island.You can get 4br 2 story house with pool(granted its cheap furniture and smelly house) for 20k baht.. in most towns you dont get much for 20k First of all Rawai is a municipality not a town Show me a house you can buy in Rawai for 20K actually show me a house you can buy anywhere in Phuket for 20K and i would be interested in buying it or ten Why instead of quoting of the top of you head don't you check Welltas web site there no cheap properties in Rawai or Nai Harn Edited December 8, 2011 by LivinginKata 2 inflammatory remarks removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I think he means RENTING a house for 20,000 Bt, not BUYING a house for 20,000 Bt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercallen Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Isn't Rawaii the cheapest in Phuket? No everyone thinks there land is worth the same anywhere in Phuket weather its on the top of a mountain or in a swamp, Rawai is not cheap we spent nearly 6 months looking for a house as genuine cash buyers and Rawai is one of the more expensive areas and the best if you are not interested in bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 But, as I posted before, I have heard about far fewer acquaintances being robbed in the last couple of years. There was also a 'gang' involved in bike robberies around the Sai Yuan area (again, a couple of years back). I haven't heard any recent reports though, so assume the police have 'cracked down' and found them. there have been some recent road robbers here in Kata Karon. Patak road between the banks in Karon and Karon temple. Seems like they hang around bars to find victims, as they rob girls loaded with gold by kicking their bikes over. And, to be fair, girls "loaded with gold" would be targeted in pretty much every country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercallen Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Isn't Rawaii the cheapest in Phuket? I don't know about house rental prices, but, land prices are nowhere near the cheapest on the island. That's right and you do not build a cheap house on expensive land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamos Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I would hazard a guess at the NE, or central east (inland). Right near club Yamu? Pretty expensive there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 It seems to me that there's a hint of jealousy from the posters that constantly slag off Rawai. (you know who you are) Maybe they've noticed that there's a real community feel about the place, and that there are many up-market places opening up (as well as our very own Supercheap!). I think they look at the socially desolate places that they have chosen to live and realise that they made a wrong move. Rawai has no more crime than anywhere else on the island, probably less than a lot of places. Good post, i agree and we both live in Rawai so should know No crime where we live and we are only 500 metres from the beach front No, what it means is that you both live in Rawai and are therefore biased. What has distance from the beach front got to do with crime? From the reporting on TV and PG (see links I supplied), I would have to somewhat agree with KBB. Phuket Town first, then Kathu, Patong and Rawai roughly the same. I don't follow your logic there...we live in Rawai and are therefore biased? We live in Rawai because we took a good look round the island before settling in what is obviously the best place to live. As I said before, there's lots of other places on the island with more crime than Rawai. Quoting ancient PG articles to support your argument is a bit pathetic, sounds like you're desperate to put Rawai down any way you can! Rawai has its problems but, is generally an agreeable place to live if you avoid the bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercallen Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I think he means RENTING a house for 20,000 Bt, not BUYING a house for 20,000 Bt. Show anyone on this forum a house for 20 K with a swimming pool and there would be a lot of people VERY interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercallen Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Goodnight all i have read enough rubbish on this forum for one day I will just settle down with a large Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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