homeseeker Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I get the impression jack bristol is an attention seeker and probably failed to get into the special constabulary. Nothing wrong with stopping someone stealing from you but no need to broadcast it in this unfair way. Shows poor judgment and if what is alleged is true, that shows even worse judgment in employing the thief in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 So, is the "maid" in the jail now? If not, what was the point in planting the money so she could get caught on the camera? Guess he received his 15 minutes. Next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I sympathise with your predicament but In many other countries you would risk being prosecuted for accusing someone of stealing and identifying them publicly like this without a proper conviction through the proper channels. I have no reason to doubt what you say but in the absence of a proper conviction, I only have your word as to what's really going on. For all I know, she could be an ex girlfriend/mother of ex girlfriend who you've fallen out with and you could have fabricated the video to make her look like a thief as some kind of public revenge. You would have obtained the same reactions from the video if you'd have blurred or pixelated her face. Personally I would never employ a maid. Perhaps I have very low faith in humanity, but I wouldn't trust a complete stranger to be alone surrounded by all my personal and private possessions. And I'd certainly never leave large sums of money lying around. My understanding is that truth is not sufficient defence in defamation cases in Thailand. I would have thought that any Thai lawyer worth his salt could probably sting the OP for another ten thousand with a defamation case on behalf of the alleged maid. SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I get the impression jack bristol is an attention seeker and probably failed to get into the special constabulary. Nothing wrong with stopping someone stealing from you but no need to broadcast it in this unfair way. Shows poor judgment and if what is alleged is true, that shows even worse judgment in employing the thief in the first place. Most long-term Westerners have had problems with their maids thieving. But once they realise, they sack the staff - why on earth plant hidden cameras?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I actually found it funny, thai media including thaivisa, is regular basis publishing photos together with passport copies of suspected criminals and posters here hang them high without second thought. Now when someone posts a vid of his maid stealing they are out in force to rescue the poor innocent lady... Edited January 8, 2012 by MJo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 You got her. She admitted it. But I agree with others on the U Tube video in that you should not have posted it, especially as it does not show her actually stealing, even though she went to the drawer fist. I do wonder how many other people she stole from. Why? Because she gave you the 20,000 back in a couple of hours. You do not expect a maid to have that amount of money to spare. I would not employ a maid to clean for me. How much mess and dirt can one person make? Can you not wield a mop, a brush, wash your own pots or make a bed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I get the impression jack bristol is an attention seeker and probably failed to get into the special constabulary. Nothing wrong with stopping someone stealing from you but no need to broadcast it in this unfair way. Shows poor judgment and if what is alleged is true, that shows even worse judgment in employing the thief in the first place. Most long-term Westerners have had problems with their maids thieving. But once they realise, they sack the staff - why on earth plant hidden cameras?? got his money back, instead of just sacking the maid who would have kept the money taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandreu Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I actually found it funny, thai media including thaivisa, is regular basis publishing photos together with passport copies of suspected criminals and posters here hang them high without second thought. Now when someone posts a vid of his maid stealing they are out in force to rescue the poor innocent lady... "Suspected" is the operative word here. When Thai media, and any media around the world for that matter show suspected criminals, they always make it clear that they are "suspects" who are "alleged" to have committed the crime in question. The OP has acted as judge, jury and executioner in this case, and there are good reasons why that is illegal. Edited January 8, 2012 by xandreu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 How much mess and dirt can one person make? You'd be surprised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) To put it terms that you will understand, "your video is a crock of shit". no where does it show that she took,the money, She didn't put it in her shirt, or anywhere else. Maybe the drawer was open an she was just curious. If your post is not just a bunch of BS that you staged and you actually think that tjis is evidence of her stealing money from you, you should be be prepared for a rebuttal in the form of a lawsuit. A sting operation requires unrefutable evidence, in this case you got stung. If you had thought that she was stealing from you, just let her go, why all the drama and BS? Edited January 8, 2012 by wayned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermute Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yeah posting a youtube of this was unwise. She might even have grounds to sue you for slander because it doesn't show her clearly stealing anything. You're lucky she admitted guilt and coughed up the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 We caned ours when caught stealing...then tied her on top of a red ants nest. Covered in jam I hope?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) For a local who cleans other people's houses that is a lot of money, like 2 months salary. Myself, in such a position, probably would have done the same thing, then you'd never see me again, your word against mine, etc. Damned farang! Edited January 8, 2012 by bendejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 So, is the "maid" in the jail now? If not, what was the point in planting the money so she could get caught on the camera? duh....maybe proof to sack her...proof to use to get his money back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maiphedmaiaroi Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 why didnt u employ a pretty young maid??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maiphedmaiaroi Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I am quite disgusted Thai Visa allows this video. Does it mean anyone can post a picture of someone here and say in effect "this is a thief who stole from me" Because that is what is being allowed here. As another poster mentions the poor woman ain't been convicted of anything and is being publicly ridiculed and humiliated without any chance of a fair trial or rebuttal. we only have the anonymous rant of the poster giving his accusations as the video in itself is inconclusive. Some years ago a similar vigilanty activity was done by a major Us TV company called 'To catch a Predator' and at least in that instance the police were part of the sting; but the series was discontinued for legal reasons. Perhaps some enterprising business should secretly film some westerners in bars aiding and abetting prostitution and we can all see the films of it on this forum and have a laugh about it . What do you say moderators???? chill buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maprao Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 "could not stand a maid in my home, my place of privacy. I would end up cleaning up so the maid did not think I was dirty and that would defeat the whole purpose of having one. ' not is she is a live in maid... careful what she polishes also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) You just broke the law. It's illegal to record something like that without informing the person first, unless you are an official ie police She can actually take you to court too now Edited January 8, 2012 by skippybangkok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAYNEandAEI Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 She was caught with the marked bills. The video was for entertainment purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRed Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I would of rather cleaned myself than seen her ugly mug arriving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yeah posting a youtube of this was unwise. She might even have grounds to sue you for slander because it doesn't show her clearly stealing anything. You're lucky she admitted guilt and coughed up the cash. Right. The OP has openly and publicly named and shamed this lady of committing a criminal act without first having her been found guilty in a court of law. This is illegal pal, and this lady certainly has grounds to sue you for defamation of character and slander. If I were you, I would delete your UTube video and perhaps save yourself a load of hassle in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Trouble is same as cockroaches. If you catch the slowest ones, then they will evolve to be faster and faster until you cannot catch them anymore. We are creating a world of super thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandreu Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 You just broke the law. It's illegal to record something like that without informing the person first, unless you are an official ie police She can actually take you to court too now Apparently not. It seems that these days you can record people doing anything and broadcast it without their permission. If simply broadcasting video of someone without their permission was illegal, then a very high proportion of YouTube videos would be illegal. Personally, I'm surprised that people don't make more of a fuss about it. A lot more of a fuss.. but that's for another thread. But as for this particular video, it's accompanied by someone making very profound accusations, which is a whole different ball game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbristol Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Some of you may be pleased to hear that her lawyer has contacted me and she has started proceedings to sue me for defamation of character. Her team of lawyers is headed by a chap called Robert Amsterdam. After she'd taken the money I looked on here for similar stories and advice on how do deal with this situation. There wasn't much on here, just a couple of threads, so I thought this might serve as a bit of a 'how-to' guide. I placed 20,000, more than I usually have in there, because I wanted to make sure that this time she took the money so I'd catch her. Anyway, I'm not here for discussion on the matter. Take it as you will. I'm just happy that I could recover the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAYNEandAEI Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The video is not in anyway illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The video is not in anyway illegal Depends which country - if took it in Thailand, and you don't have a signed document at commencement of work that you have the right to surveil her - it sure is illegal. Check the constitution where it is enshrined. I know cause worked w layers in this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BngkkB Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Did anyone else notice the time stamp in the upper right hand corner. The laptop was closed for 15 minutes. just FYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 the New York Times calling it "the most well-planned operation since the killing of Osama Bin Laden". Seriously if she was a maid uniform cutie then the video would be more complete by including the punishment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Freaks defending a thief.....amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Well done. We've caught just about every maid we've ever had stealing. Makes me think the only reason they want to be a maid, is to be a thief. I hate to say this, but you can't trust them. None of them. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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