Thaksin: Successful Reconciliation Will Bring Thailand More Prosperity

[Buchholz]

Thaksin also gave a blessing to his supporters on the occasion of New Year and told them to be patient as they will become wealthier soon.

Soon? How soon? The six months is due now.

Only his supporters becomong wealthy or all Thais?

Apparently it's all-inclusive of all 68 million Thais.

"I promise that I will make all Thai people rich within six months." - Thaksin Shinawatra

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[nurofiend]

Not as flawed as assuming MOST Thais think that he is NOT a criminal. IMHO ALL Thais KNOW that he is a criminal, but 48% are prepared to vote for him anyway.

well i disagree with that statement, i'm sure enough thai's think he was wronged due to political reasons.

the number of people with these views... i wouldn't even hazard a guess.

[TAWP]

Thaksin: Sucessful Cronyism Will Bring me More Prosperity

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[welbymd]

"Reconciliation is what I say it is", oh wait, that's what Chalerm is saying, not Thaksin.

[taff33]

Do you belive that Thaksin is any more corrupt than Bush Snr,Bush Jnr,Blair or Brown,because I don't.Who ever is in power in any country is there to line thier own pockets.

[scorecard]

Not as flawed as assuming MOST Thais think that he is NOT a criminal. IMHO ALL Thais KNOW that he is a criminal, but 48% are prepared to vote for him anyway.

well i disagree with that statement, i'm sure enough thai's think he was wronged due to political reasons.

the number of people with these views... i wouldn't even hazard a guess.

1. There is no doubt whatever that jatuporn and lots more red leaders at a national level and the local leaders e.g. Udon, Ubon, Chiang Mai, and more have well convinced their naive followers that thaksin is totally innocent, thaksin has been wronged, thaksin is a victim, thaksin loves and is the saviour of the poor, thaksin is the champion of democracy, etc etc etc. My Thai adult son has collected a lot of the paper handouts, local magazine handouts and CD ROMS (including several speeches by abhisit which had been doctored) which have been distributed to the red followers and he says it is all full of blatant lies, totally and deliberately wrong interpratations of the law, one handout explains that the English language word 'Democarcy' means 'saviour' in Thai language. (In fact these items were easy to collect because there are many strongly red food vendors in our soi who were/are distributors of all of the mentioned materials.)

2. There is no doubt whatever that there is a sizeable proportion of the Thai electorate who decide which party to vote for by the immediate handouts offered and nothing more. Most of these people are not familiar at all with the concept of long-term policies. I've mentioned before, my adult Thai son talks often to his neighbors in his urban village. The neighbors, husband and wife, are both doctors of medicine at a government hospital, both middle aged, both have never been outside of Thailand, both are totally naive about the rest of the world, both speak zero English (not the most important point of course). Just before the last election my son asked them how they would decide which party to vote for. Very simple answer,'the party which promises to control pork and egg prices'. Son has tried to engage them in other conversations about long-term policy, they both respond by saying that' it's not possible to have long-term policies,

[scorecard]

Do you belive that Thaksin is any more corrupt than Bush Snr,Bush Jnr,Blair or Brown,because I don't.Who ever is in power in any country is there to line thier own pockets.

Don't agree at all.

[MILT]

In so many words, the bottom line is that he is saying he wants to weasel out of the conviction, along with all other cases against him. Reconciliation begins when he respects justice. But he can't escape being the cunning, greedy weasel he is. God forbid he ever returns or it'll be back to the same old, same old.

It is pretty much the same old, same old now. Wait until May of this year when the 111 Ban corrupters re-enter the fray. Folks we haven't seen nothing yet. The calm before the storm perhaps?

[MILT]

Do you belive that Thaksin is any more corrupt than Bush Snr,Bush Jnr,Blair or Brown,because I don't.Who ever is in power in any country is there to line thier own pockets.

Don't agree at all.

You absolutely right. There is one difference. The policies of those two countries benefit more than the people in Government. There is way more voice and transparency compared to this growing democracy. Thaskin is a bottom feeder at best!

[animatic]

Not as flawed as assuming MOST Thais think that he is NOT a criminal. IMHO ALL Thais KNOW that he is a criminal, but 48% are prepared to vote for him anyway.

well i disagree with that statement, i'm sure enough thai's think he was wronged due to political reasons.

the number of people with these views... i wouldn't even hazard a guess.

1. There is no doubt whatever that jatuporn and lots more red leaders at a national level and the local leaders e.g. Udon, Ubon, Chiang Mai, and more have well convinced their naive followers that thaksin is totally innocent, thaksin has been wronged, thaksin is a victim, thaksin loves and is the saviour of the poor, thaksin is the champion of democracy, etc etc etc. My Thai adult son has collected a lot of the paper handouts, local magazine handouts and CD ROMS (including several speeches by abhisit which had been doctored) which have been distributed to the red followers and he says it is all full of blatant lies, totally and deliberately wrong interpratations of the law, one handout explains that the English language word 'Democarcy' means 'saviour' in Thai language. (In fact these items were easy to collect because there are many strongly red food vendors in our soi who were/are distributors of all of the mentioned materials.)

2. There is no doubt whatever that there is a sizeable proportion of the Thai electorate who decide which party to vote for by the immediate handouts offered and nothing more. Most of these people are not familiar at all with the concept of long-term policies. I've mentioned before, my adult Thai son talks often to his neighbors in his urban village. The neighbors, husband and wife, are both doctors of medicine at a government hospital, both middle aged, both have never been outside of Thailand, both are totally naive about the rest of the world, both speak zero English (not the most important point of course). Just before the last election my son asked them how they would decide which party to vote for. Very simple answer,'the party which promises to control pork and egg prices'. Son has tried to engage them in other conversations about long-term policy, they both respond by saying that' it's not possible to have long-term policies,

The Party that controls Pork....

What and increadibly ironic statement.

Since boon-doogle wastes of money

and sops to local constituencies to keep work there and of course their votes coming

is called 'Pork' short for Pork Barrel Politics.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Pork_barrel

" The term pork barrel politics usually refers to spending that is intended to benefit constituents of a politician in return for their political support, either in the form of campaign contributions or votes. In the popular 1863 story "The Children of the Public",Edward Everett Hale used the term pork barrel as a homely metaphor for any form of public spending to the citizenry.^[3] After theAmerican Civil War, however, the term came to be used in a derogatory sense. The Oxford English Dictionary dates the modern sense of the term from 1873.^[4] By the 1870s, references to "pork" were common in Congress, and the term was further popularized by a 1919 article by Chester Collins Maxey in the National Municipal Review, which reported on certain legislative acts known to members of Congress as "pork barrel bills". He claimed that the phrase originated in a pre-Civil War practice of giving slaves a barrel of salt pork as a reward and requiring them to compete among themselves to get their share of the handout.^[5] More generally, a barrel of salt pork was a common larder item in 19th century households, and could be used as a measure of the family's financial well-being. For example, in his 1845 novel The Chainbearer, James Fenimore Cooper wrote, "I hold a family to be in a desperate way, when the mother can see the bottom of the pork barrel. "

We certainly know which party lacking any scruples,

strives the hardest to take control of 'pork distribution' in Thailand.

Watch for some of those 111 jumping from political purgatory right into the cabinet.

Edited February 1, 2012 by animatic