norrona Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 in the words of Michael Jackson....he's starting with the man in the mirror.... bloomin' hypocrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think Chuwit is a subject matter expert and Thailand should consider hiring him as an expert. Also, I think, since this is Thailand, Mr. Chuwit has a pretty good chance of being prime minister. From massage parlor king to prime minister. If Ying Luck can win with promises of raising minimum wage and giving every student in Thailand a tablet computer (Plus being Thaskins younger sister), then Chuwit has a chance too. I wonder what kind of promises he will make. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z12 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) You can tell from my Signature where I stand on Chuwit. Sure he had a bad past, but because he faced several death threats from the police I seem to recall, he has decided to front it out. He is the only politician who is not a hypocrite here because he is not hiding his past. All of the other men in power have contracts closed in these places; it is ingrained in the culture. He is not pretending the problems do not exist though; or faking big surprise. So I say good for him. I would also guess that the information he has on all the properly powerful people in this country with evidence as well, means he is fairly safe. After all, why kill him if the whole system will collapse straight after wards? I do have a feeling though that the casino's, dodgy contracts, sex trade, drugs et al is all run by all the big old school families and if they were all exposed, there would be a collective shrug of their shoulders saying "yeah, we did it all, and will keep doing it. So what can you do about it? Call the cops? the army? they're in it with us so go tell someone who cares". This is the most sad part of it all. In the mean time, Chuwit is the best person in Thai politics. They will use the "do you know who I am defense". Edited February 13, 2012 by z12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisico Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 He is nuts. What he wants will drive Isaan unemployment higher and bankrupt the police force of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silsburyhill Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 This has to be a hoax post. Chuwit is the biggest player or was anyway , in Bangkok's massage business. no prostitution in that ??? End prostitution and the Japs,Koreans and Chinese will take their factories somewhere else....golf isnt enough. Farangs are nothing here but it would wipe out Pattaya overnight. There goes isan....bang. This has to be a hoax post. Chuwit is the biggest player or was anyway , in Bangkok's massage business. no prostitution in that ??? End prostitution and the Japs,Koreans and Chinese will take their factories somewhere else....golf isnt enough. Farangs are nothing here but it would wipe out Pattaya overnight. There goes isan....bang. Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true blue Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The only reason there is Prostitution in thailand is because foreigners keep going there, No foreigners NO prostitution......Simple really. i read some were, that over 80/90% of the sex trade in los was utilised by thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthAi76s Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think Chuwit is a subject matter expert and Thailand should consider hiring him as an expert. Also, I think, since this is Thailand, Mr. Chuwit has a pretty good chance of being prime minister. From massage parlor king to prime minister. If Ying Luck can win with promises of raising minimum wage and giving every student in Thailand a tablet computer (Plus being Thaskins younger sister), then Chuwit has a chance too. I wonder what kind of promises he will make. Free monthly handj0bs from very young women with any business investment of BT 100,000 or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudolus Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 You can tell from my Signature where I stand on Chuwit. Sure he had a bad past, but because he faced several death threats from the police I seem to recall, he has decided to front it out. He is the only politician who is not a hypocrite here because he is not hiding his past. All of the other men in power have contracts closed in these places; it is ingrained in the culture. He is not pretending the problems do not exist though; or faking big surprise. So I say good for him. I would also guess that the information he has on all the properly powerful people in this country with evidence as well, means he is fairly safe. After all, why kill him if the whole system will collapse straight after wards? I do have a feeling though that the casino's, dodgy contracts, sex trade, drugs et al is all run by all the big old school families and if they were all exposed, there would be a collective shrug of their shoulders saying "yeah, we did it all, and will keep doing it. So what can you do about it? Call the cops? the army? they're in it with us so go tell someone who cares". This is the most sad part of it all. In the mean time, Chuwit is the best person in Thai politics. They will use the "do you know who I am defense". They would need a defence because there would be no one to prosecute them. The Judiciary, the police, the law makers, the leaders of business will all be in the dock with them. The whole whack. So I think they would release a statement from Hui Hin and Chiang Mai simply stating "Yep, and?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silsburyhill Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think Chuwit is a subject matter expert and Thailand should consider hiring him as an expert. Also, I think, since this is Thailand, Mr. Chuwit has a pretty good chance of being prime minister. From massage parlor king to prime minister. If Ying Luck can win with promises of raising minimum wage and giving every student in Thailand a tablet computer (Plus being Thaskins younger sister), then Chuwit has a chance too. I wonder what kind of promises he will make. I think Chuwit is a subject matter expert and Thailand should consider hiring him as an expert. Also, I think, since this is Thailand, Mr. Chuwit has a pretty good chance of being prime minister. From massage parlor king to prime minister. If Ying Luck can win with promises of raising minimum wage and giving every student in Thailand a tablet computer (Plus being Thaskins younger sister), then Chuwit has a chance too. I wonder what kind of promises he will make. I agree Chuwit should be given a go at PM. Who else this silly little country got? The least that would happen is that he would be a catalyst for change, good or bad. Instead of the moribund system been in place for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z12 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) The only reason there is Prostitution in thailand is because foreigners keep going there, No foreigners NO prostitution......Simple really. i read some were, that over 80/90% of the sex trade in los was utilised by thais Yes, that is correct, that guy has been drinking too much evian water, naive. Edited February 13, 2012 by z12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMANOBA Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If prostitution forms 10 percent of thai national product, it should be encouraged and legalized! This 10 percent does not take in account all business related to prostitution: tourism, hotels,taxi,transportation, and so on.If we take in account everything I suspect we could double that 10 percent.So we get 20 percent, take off at once this 20 percent and Thailand would collapse on the spot!!! Furthermore prostitution is part of thai culture since thousands of years, it is engrained in daily life,habits,way of thinking, so the damage would not only be economical but cultural! Bye bye thai identity where they are so proud of! This is not a joke, thailand is good in servicing and all related business, and prostitution is on top of the ' sevicing' concept. Furthermore 99 percent of thai male desperately need prostitution and use it, in a society where communication between sexes is so terribly poor.So : WAR TO DRUGS WAR TO PROSTITUTION WAR TO ALCOHOL Whalt will be over to attract tourists?....The 7 eleven?Polluted beaches?Traffic jams?Unliveable and ugly cities?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Posts with references to previous Kings of Thailand have been removed. 2) Not to express disrespect of the King of Thailand or anyone else in the Thai royal family, whether living or deceased, nor to criticize the monarchy as an institution. Speculation, comments and discussion of either a political or personal nature are not allowed when discussing HM The King or the Royal family. Discussion of the lese majeste law or lese majeste cases is permitted on the forum, providing no comment or speculation is made referencing the royal family. To breach this rule will result in immediate ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Now many people will not like to hear this, but I am going to say it anyway. For the most part, these girls do have choices. The bottom line is that they can have jobs in restaurants and hotels earning a decent living and enough to get by. The salary for your average unskilled worker is anywhere from $100-300USD per month. Now when you compare that to a western salary it may sound like very little. The reality is that many people in Thailand live happily on these low salaries, and some of them even send half of that salary to help their family. The average bar girl can make more in 1 day than most people do in 1 month, so it is not surprising that some find it tempting. Another thing to consider is that in rural Thai society, this is not looked at in the same way you might view it. A girl going back to her village telling stories of sleeping with middle aged men for large sums of money, does not get ostracized and ridiculed. In contrast she might be treated like a hero, a pioneer. May all very well be. But that "have a choice"- picture with the "easy money" gets pretty shattered, when you know, that most of the "girls" are straight on their way into alcoholism (or other, even worse addictions) just to do this job. I know some bars and some girls: none of them is even halfway sober, even when they start their evening. I have seen the nice "thai boyfriend" accompanying his "GF" to a "job interview' in a GoGo bar...1 week later he was back with another "GF". What about the girls from Laos or Cambodia- you know, the ones that always have to hide somewhere, when the police makes one of their announced raids... Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopperboy Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Isn't this the mother of all ironies! One of the biggest sex peddler calling for a crackdown on prostitution. This is like Bill Gates asking everyone to stop using Microsoft because it is bad for society. He used to complain about the police using the "services" at his clubs and not paying for them. The US banned him because he was involved in the sex trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silsburyhill Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Now many people will not like to hear this, but I am going to say it anyway. For the most part, these girls do have choices. The bottom line is that they can have jobs in restaurants and hotels earning a decent living and enough to get by. The salary for your average unskilled worker is anywhere from $100-300USD per month. Now when you compare that to a western salary it may sound like very little. The reality is that many people in Thailand live happily on these low salaries, and some of them even send half of that salary to help their family. The average bar girl can make more in 1 day than most people do in 1 month, so it is not surprising that some find it tempting. Another thing to consider is that in rural Thai society, this is not looked at in the same way you might view it. A girl going back to her village telling stories of sleeping with middle aged men for large sums of money, does not get ostracized and ridiculed. In contrast she might be treated like a hero, a pioneer. May all very well be. But that "have a choice"- picture with the "easy money" gets pretty shattered, when you know, that most of the "girls" are straight on their way into alcoholism (or other, even worse addictions) just to do this job. I know some bars and some girls: none of them is even halfway sober, even when they start their evening. I have seen the nice "thai boyfriend" accompanying his "GF" to a "job interview' in a GoGo bar...1 week later he was back with another "GF". What about the girls from Laos or Cambodia- you know, the ones that always have to hide somewhere, when the police makes one of their announced raids... Just saying Now many people will not like to hear this, but I am going to say it anyway. For the most part, these girls do have choices. The bottom line is that they can have jobs in restaurants and hotels earning a decent living and enough to get by. The salary for your average unskilled worker is anywhere from $100-300USD per month. Now when you compare that to a western salary it may sound like very little. The reality is that many people in Thailand live happily on these low salaries, and some of them even send half of that salary to help their family. The average bar girl can make more in 1 day than most people do in 1 month, so it is not surprising that some find it tempting. Another thing to consider is that in rural Thai society, this is not looked at in the same way you might view it. A girl going back to her village telling stories of sleeping with middle aged men for large sums of money, does not get ostracized and ridiculed. In contrast she might be treated like a hero, a pioneer. May all very well be. But that "have a choice"- picture with the "easy money" gets pretty shattered, when you know, that most of the "girls" are straight on their way into alcoholism (or other, even worse addictions) just to do this job. I know some bars and some girls: none of them is even halfway sober, even when they start their evening. I have seen the nice "thai boyfriend" accompanying his "GF" to a "job interview' in a GoGo bar...1 week later he was back with another "GF". What about the girls from Laos or Cambodia- you know, the ones that always have to hide somewhere, when the police makes one of their announced raids... Just saying And what about the constant whining/complaining 'It's never the Thais' fault'. Just sayin' ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 DocN, on 17 minutes ago, said: nicky1982, on 52 minutes ago, said: Now many people will not like to hear this, but I am going to say it anyway. For the most part, these girls do have choices. The bottom line is that they can have jobs in restaurants and hotels earning a decent living and enough to get by. The salary for your average unskilled worker is anywhere from $100-300USD per month. Now when you compare that to a western salary it may sound like very little. The reality is that many people in Thailand live happily on these low salaries, and some of them even send half of that salary to help their family. The average bar girl can make more in 1 day than most people do in 1 month, so it is not surprising that some find it tempting. Another thing to consider is that in rural Thai society, this is not looked at in the same way you might view it. A girl going back to her village telling stories of sleeping with middle aged men for large sums of money, does not get ostracized and ridiculed. In contrast she might be treated like a hero, a pioneer. May all very well be. But that "have a choice"- picture with the "easy money" gets pretty shattered, when you know, that most of the "girls" are straight on their way into alcoholism (or other, even worse addictions) just to do this job. I know some bars and some girls: none of them is even halfway sober, even when they start their evening. I have seen the nice "thai boyfriend" accompanying his "GF" to a "job interview' in a GoGo bar...1 week later he was back with another "GF". What about the girls from Laos or Cambodia- you know, the ones that always have to hide somewhere, when the police makes one of their announced raids... Just saying And what about the constant whining/complaining 'It's never the Thais' fault'. Just sayin' ... Who is??? Me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z12 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) DocN, on 17 minutes ago, said: nicky1982, on 52 minutes ago, said: Now many people will not like to hear this, but I am going to say it anyway. For the most part, these girls do have choices. The bottom line is that they can have jobs in restaurants and hotels earning a decent living and enough to get by. The salary for your average unskilled worker is anywhere from $100-300USD per month. Now when you compare that to a western salary it may sound like very little. The reality is that many people in Thailand live happily on these low salaries, and some of them even send half of that salary to help their family. The average bar girl can make more in 1 day than most people do in 1 month, so it is not surprising that some find it tempting. Another thing to consider is that in rural Thai society, this is not looked at in the same way you might view it. A girl going back to her village telling stories of sleeping with middle aged men for large sums of money, does not get ostracized and ridiculed. In contrast she might be treated like a hero, a pioneer. May all very well be. But that "have a choice"- picture with the "easy money" gets pretty shattered, when you know, that most of the "girls" are straight on their way into alcoholism (or other, even worse addictions) just to do this job. I know some bars and some girls: none of them is even halfway sober, even when they start their evening. I have seen the nice "thai boyfriend" accompanying his "GF" to a "job interview' in a GoGo bar...1 week later he was back with another "GF". What about the girls from Laos or Cambodia- you know, the ones that always have to hide somewhere, when the police makes one of their announced raids... Just saying And what about the constant whining/complaining 'It's never the Thais' fault'. Just sayin' ... Who is??? Me??? I don't think he means you, I think he is talking about the thais. Edited February 13, 2012 by z12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 "Why go out for hamburger when you got steak at home", with that being said I believe that prostitution helps people release and play out their perversions ( Local and Foreign ) nothing wrong with consensual adults doing their thing for money. A complete mutual understanding. It is a huge industry so why not legalize sex, medically regulate and screen all outlets for the underaged and collect the tax. Just think what will happen when all the millions of perverts that visit Thailand and millions of the Thais will do when they cannot have their release. I feel sorry for the neighboring countries which is where all these people will flock to full fill themselves. By driving this industry further underground more STD's and the spread of HIV/Aids grows along with exploiting the underaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 DocN, on 17 minutes ago, said: nicky1982, on 52 minutes ago, said: Now many people will not like to hear this, but I am going to say it anyway. For the most part, these girls do have choices. The bottom line is that they can have jobs in restaurants and hotels earning a decent living and enough to get by. The salary for your average unskilled worker is anywhere from $100-300USD per month. Now when you compare that to a western salary it may sound like very little. The reality is that many people in Thailand live happily on these low salaries, and some of them even send half of that salary to help their family. The average bar girl can make more in 1 day than most people do in 1 month, so it is not surprising that some find it tempting. Another thing to consider is that in rural Thai society, this is not looked at in the same way you might view it. A girl going back to her village telling stories of sleeping with middle aged men for large sums of money, does not get ostracized and ridiculed. In contrast she might be treated like a hero, a pioneer. May all very well be. But that "have a choice"- picture with the "easy money" gets pretty shattered, when you know, that most of the "girls" are straight on their way into alcoholism (or other, even worse addictions) just to do this job. I know some bars and some girls: none of them is even halfway sober, even when they start their evening. I have seen the nice "thai boyfriend" accompanying his "GF" to a "job interview' in a GoGo bar...1 week later he was back with another "GF". What about the girls from Laos or Cambodia- you know, the ones that always have to hide somewhere, when the police makes one of their announced raids... Just saying And what about the constant whining/complaining 'It's never the Thais' fault'. Just sayin' ... Who is??? Me??? I don't think he means you, I think he is talking about the thais. Oh...that was in general! Yeah...it's NEVER the thais fault...no matter what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnikaIII Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) "the colourful politician said he would go to the US Embassy today to provide information on human trafficking." Why go to the U.S Embassy what has it got to do with the U.S, They aren't the worlds police or have authority in Thailand. The guys intentions are probably good but I get the feeling that he may have signed his own death warrant. I lot of powerful and currupt people in Thailand will not like what he plans to do. The streets do need to be cleaned up a lot with prostitution in your face 24/7 and the image doesn't really fit that of a family holiday destination. "Why go to the U.S Embassy what has it got to do with the U.S," ... ? .... because there are some high flighing Americans involved? .. high flighing Thais rubbing shoulders with influencial diplomats? Actually the media is always the best shot, with all networks contacted simultaneously, TV, Radio and the press. .. then take cover in a well stocked bunker, or better still, post the packages on the way to the airport. Edited February 13, 2012 by TechnikaIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'm surprised he's still alive. He was the pimp king of Thailand and now he's acting like the holy ghost himself. It's unbelievable!!! Anyone who supports this guy must be mentally handicapped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The only reason there is Prostitution in thailand is because foreigners keep going there, No foreigners NO prostitution......Simple really. Sorry you are wrong, foreigners being with prostitutes are only a small percentage, Thai are the are major players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Good luck with that, Khun Chuwit. Perhaps you could also get the government to stamp out gambling too. Edited February 13, 2012 by bigbamboo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Chuwit submits information of prostitution to US embassy BANGKOK: -- Rak Prathet Thai Party leader Chuwit Kamolvisit, formerly known of king of massage parlours, Monday submitted his information about sex trade in Thailand to the US embassy. Chuwit said there are several brothels in disguise in Bangkok, including those in shop houses near Imperial Samrong and a big resort in Ram-indra area as well as massage parlours along Phetchaburi Road. He told reporters that he submitted statistics of human trafficking in Thailand to the embassy along with his thesis made in 2003. -- The Nation 2012-02-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 "Why go out for hamburger when you got steak at home", with that being said I believe that prostitution helps people release and play out their perversions ( Local and Foreign ) nothing wrong with consensual adults doing their thing for money. A complete mutual understanding. It is a huge industry so why not legalize sex, medically regulate and screen all outlets for the underaged and collect the tax. Just think what will happen when all the millions of perverts that visit Thailand and millions of the Thais will do when they cannot have their release. I feel sorry for the neighboring countries which is where all these people will flock to full fill themselves. By driving this industry further underground more STD's and the spread of HIV/Aids grows along with exploiting the underaged. Why not legalise? Because the people in power are there because they either are, or are supported by, the people that earn fantastic amounts of untaxed, untraceble, cash. Only a fool digs a hole in the boat they are standing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The only reason there is Prostitution in thailand is because foreigners keep going there, No foreigners NO prostitution......Simple really. Sorry you are wrong, foreigners being with prostitutes are only a small percentage, Thai are the are major players. Foreigner's didn't create prostitution here in Thailand. It was a war next door that put the sex industry in Thailand on the map. Not to mention that having a relationship with more than one person was common and not looked at as prostitution back in the day. Pa Lease not everyone that comes to Thailand is looking for sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I don't get that "US Embassy"- bit...well...and all the other bits, as well..... Is that related to the "Alcohol Conference"...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaps Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Well that's it then, it's out of the bag, now everyone knows Stupid man . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I don't get that "US Embassy"- bit...well...and all the other bits, as well..... Is that related to the "Alcohol Conference"...??? No, more likely to the USA position on anti-trafficking....and on the Thai poulations ideas that the USA is a world police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthAi76s Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 In Thailand, prostitution was mentioned during [the past]. There was taxation of prostitutes and brothels called "tax for the road." When slavery was abolished, some females slaves were turned over to men who started brothels. Prostitution was legalized in 1934. Expressed was a concern about prostitutes who worked in gangs with men as their supervisors. The situation was prone to violence , and the threat if spreading venereal disease was great. Because of these dangers, prostitutes were allowed to be registered so that they could receive regular medical care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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