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Hello,

I would like to conduct business in thailand. However I am not ready to create my company yet and I haven't found thai associated partners/companies either. I would like to do a serious marketing field research before that, so would require a year long multiple entry business visa.

Therefore I am a bit restrained by the business visa requirements, which requires either a company sending me to thailand or a thai company inviting me to thailand.

What are my options? How can I find a thai company who could provide me necessary invitation letters?

If I didn't find a suitable business opportunity after one year, can I repeat the process and ask for another business visa even if I haven't applied to a work permit in the meantime?

Posted

After re-reading your post in a similar topic that was closed, do you think anyone will believe this story?

It looks like you're just trying to 'work' the system.

Contact one of the law offices that advertise they'll get you a visa.

Posted

After re-reading your post in a similar topic that was closed, do you think anyone will believe this story?

It looks like you're just trying to 'work' the system.

Contact one of the law offices that advertise they'll get you a visa.

I don't care if anyone will believe my story.

It is not illegal to go to thailand to search for business opportunities, the non-imm visa B is done for that purpose.

Wether or not I really search for business opportunities is my problem only. Actually, I am always kind of looking for business ideas. But I am on a ED visa so I should probably keep it for myself.

I would just like to have feedback from other people who got similar problems and managed to solve them. This is what forums are made for.

Hope my thread will not be closed. Posting in thai visa is a stressfull experience!

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First of all, there isn't really an "easy way" as you are beginning to find out.

However what you're asking is not impossible. Just google "thailand business visa".

When you ask the question "I am under 50 and/or don't want to retire, and I'm not going to get married just for a visa" you'll often get responses on tv of "You can't. Go away".

Truth is, there is no visa for you - so yes, you have to make the most of what's available. Many of the guys here on marriage and retirement visas will go out of their way to discourage you outright. Some of them will grudgingly point you towards a 1 year ed visa (although they'll be sure to take a potshot at you with a hint, subtle or otherwise, that you're gaming the system and not actually studying).

Ironically a business visa - especially if you're not brain dead and genuinely believe you could find business opportunities here - is probably the most "honest" of all the options. I've only been here for a few months, but it's amazing what you can learn hanging around a few bars especially when people have had a few and their tongues loosen up. So far I've met 4 so-called "retirees" who are working illegally (3 of them as teachers) and frankly, I despise them.

Finally, you kind of shot yourself in the foot with your last sentence - you haven't even got your 1st year sorted out and you're already worried about the 2nd so yeah - you just sound like one of those guys looking for a painless way to stay here for a year or more. No shame in admitting that, many of the more reasonable posters would hold you in higher esteem than some of the other self-righteous holier-than-thou twits who will undoubtedly join in the fray...

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You CANNOT get a Non-B to look for work. You only have 1 option and that is Tourist or Ed visas.

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First of all, there isn't really an "easy way" as you are beginning to find out.

However what you're asking is not impossible. Just google "thailand business visa".

Actually, I googled thailand business visa and found some information that would lead me to believe it's quite an easy process.

http://www.tilalegal.com/thai-nonimmigrant-visa.php

This company for example offers a Business visa for 8453 thb (much cheaper than a ED visa). They even offer to send the passport themselves to a thai consulate.

http://uk.siam-legal.com/ seems to offer the same service too.

I would like any feedback on those kind of companies. Scam probability is not null and maybe european consulates have tightened their requirements, that's why I would like some user experience.

Gone> I do not want to work or look for work in thailand. Thank you for your interest anyway.

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Actually, I googled thailand business visa and found some information that would lead me to believe it's quite an easy process.

http://www.tilalegal...igrant-visa.php

This company for example offers a Business visa for 8453 thb (much cheaper than a ED visa). They even offer to send the passport themselves to a thai consulate.

http://uk.siam-legal.com/ seems to offer the same service too.

Yes, that's roughly where I was pointing you. Not having done this myself, though, I can't endorse any of these guys which is why I didn't just send you a url...

I think you have misread or misunderstood though. It would be highly illegal and ill-advised for you or them to try to send your passport themselves. What they're saying is that they'll send the necessary documents to you or to the consulate you're going to use - you still have to pitch up there yourself with your passport to get the visa (unless e.g. you're in UK, you can apply by mail from within the UK).

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Yes, that's roughly where I was pointing you. Not having done this myself, though, I can't endorse any of these guys which is why I didn't just send you a url...

I think you have misread or misunderstood though. It would be highly illegal and ill-advised for you or them to try to send your passport themselves. What they're saying is that they'll send the necessary documents to you or to the consulate you're going to use - you still have to pitch up there yourself with your passport to get the visa (unless e.g. you're in UK, you can apply by mail from within the UK).

Yeah I will never send my passport by mail. But it seemed quite simple anyway, actually I'm surprised ED visa is so popular if it is that easy and cheap to get a business visa.

But maybe those companies are shady and consulate staff will laugh at my face when I show them the 10K bahts documents...

You don't have a business so how are you going to do business?

just go to school and learn Thai.

I don't want to do business (yet). Business visa allows you to do business, but doesn't force you to :)

I'm already going to school and trying to learn thai. This is a big fail (I don't make any progress, i start to dislike the language, and I lost any motivation to study at home...) so I might as well find a more convenient and cheaper option.

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I don't want to do business (yet). Business visa allows you to do business, but doesn't force you to smile.png

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So what is your problem? Could it be that you erroneously believe that a multiple-entry non-B visa is for the purpose of allowing you to live permanently in Thailand, with a day trip across the border to a neighbouring country every 90 days?

Any visa is for the purpose of travelling to Thailand, in the case of the non-B visa, among other options, to travel to Thailand to conduct business, in other words travel on behalf of a company or other business entity located outside Thailand. See this web page of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for details.

You don't have to convince anybody on this forum of your belief of what the non-B visa allows you to do. All you need to do is meet the requirements of the Thai consulate where you submit your application. It's that simple, really.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place. — George Bernard Shaw

 

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I erroneously believed for a year and a half that I could live in thailand with back to back tourist visas.

Then I erroneously believed that I could live in thailand for a year and a half with an education visa.

So let me please erroneously believe again that I could live in thailand another year with a business visa! Who knows, maybe my erroneous belief will end up true.

About the requierements for thai consulates, that's precisely the point of this thread. Established law offices are providing a business visa service. I would like user feedback about this service. Are the documents good enough for europeean consulates? What would be a good price for those documents?

More queries about what I will do with my business visa will not be answered... it is not your business (haha).

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I can understand that some people just want to come and live in Thailand for an extended time but do not satisfy the conditions to qualify for a long term visa. The ed-visa seems to be the current fallback, but of course some people want to get a visa for free.

Also staying in Thailand with a visa and not fulfilling the conditions of that visa would be illegal.

There is a way to stay for 2, 3 or 4 years with a one off payment of 20,000 baht, but I will not talk about that.!!

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I am quite sure that the procedures employed by the two law firms for which snoother gave links are perfectly legal and that there are people who have satisfactorily used their services, but I cannot remember any post in this forum of a member confirming the obtention of a multiple-entry non-B visa via this channel and giving full details of the costs and the procedure.

Snoother, if you go this route perhaps you will be so kind as to post a blow-by-blow account of the entire process, with details of your costs.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place. — George Bernard Shaw

 

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I don't know why, but every time I see a request for a PM to get information I have the funny feeling that something about the service being offered may not be quite kosher.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place. — George Bernard Shaw

 

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