Foreigner Assaulted At Bangkok BTS Station By Security Guard - Police Launch Investigation

[jackspratt]

................................................ The man is clearly non hostile and is trying to understand why he has become a victim of such unforgiviable agression..........................................

Can you give us a link to the video you watched, because it certainly wasn't the one at the beginning of the thread.

[NewlyMintedThai]

If the guard loses his job I'll take him on and double his current salary.

[sparebox2]

If people start carrying hydrogen ballon into BTS/MRT, it could be made into a big bomb.

Remember Zeppelin?

[NewlyMintedThai]

I feel for the child, to have to witness this type of display is unfortunate...

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I'm glad she was there to see it. She obviously wasn't going to learn anything decent from her thug of a dad.

[belg]

the one filming this has parkinson disease , right ? shaking more than a tennis ball

[Payboy]

the one filming this has parkinson disease , right ? shaking more than a tennis ball

Was probably having an orgasm watching a farang get beaten up.

[HeavyDrinker]

For all the speculation here, one has to assume that the authorities have (and have examined) CCTV footage of the entire incident.

From this, it seems fairly easy to deduce that seeing as the Company are willing to compensate the victim of the assault, that the fault would indeed lie with their employee as they are accepting liability.

BKKBrit, he is an Irish Gentleman and by all accounts a highly respected and qualified teacher; NOT a TEFL monkey.

If people could simply learn to utilise what little facts we have in such cases to draw what is a simple conclusion, there would be little need for all of this "you're a Thai Apologist or you're an Anti Thai Farang" dribble.

Edited March 22, 2012 by HeavyDrinker

[Foggy Bottom]

Ah..another 'I'm more important than you' farang'. Any takers for him being a Brit?

They looked more like a pair of American Churchy missionary types (or Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses) ... then again they could just be teachers

[DP25]

It's not about Thai or Foreigner, It's about Rules is Rules.

The "rules" are that someone on the BTS ticketing platform with too many balloons is to receive a brutal strike to the head with a metal detector? One strong enough to leave him with blood pouring down his face?

[whybother]

Be carful AsianAdvisor, the truth won't be tolerated around this place for long.

True, the guy was getting out of line, but this is clearly abuse. The rent-a-cop should not use his baton unless he, or someone else, is being attacked. He should lose is job and be fined and imprisoned. Sad that so many foreigners support this blatant abuse.

I have to agree entirely with 'chickin'.

Abuse by a foreigner is one thing, and the response to such abuse is to call the police and see if he wishes to continue with it in their presence, in which case he is likely to be hauled away.

It is, however, a completely different matter for a securiy guard to take matters into his own hands and use his baton under such circumstances. As I have said, abuse is one thing, but physicial assault is a completely different matter. He must be made to account for such assault.

As for the individual who makes the assumption that the person involved is a 'brit' ... have you nothing better to do with your life than to jump to such conclusions?

Look at the size of the farang and the way he just pushed through the guard. Should the guard let anyone through that just pushes through him?

Unfortunately, no one has seen how the farang got hit, and what happened before he was hit.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

AFAIK, BTS has their own fixed camera video surveillance system at all their stations, covering the ticket window area and the ticket turnstyles, as well as the platform areas upstairs... The BTS keeps digital versions of those recordings for at least several weeks, and longer if they need to because of any incident occurring.

That ought to provide a pretty clear record of what went on with this incident from beginning to end.

From watching the clip in the OP post here, there's not much to find supporting the farang guy involved. He does indeed come off at least appearing as an overly aggressive jerk.

I can't imagine how any kind of dispute over balloons ought to devolve into that kind of altercation. I didn't know BTS had that kind of rule, but I've also never tried to take balloons onboard. But if I ever did and BTS told me I couldn't and explained why, I think I could live with that without getting into a fight. How about taking a taxi instead...

BTW, I've known BTS staff (not the guards, but station staff) for some years, and never had any kind of impression that the BTS station guards are any kind of rogue bashers... They spend most of their shifts opening the disabled access gates and sometimes keeping squatters and dogs of the station access stairs. Usually far from menacing.

Edited March 22, 2012 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[NewlyMintedThai]

he is an Irish Gentleman and by all accounts a highly respected and qualified teacher

Lolz.

"Gentleman" indeed.

[Endorphin]

If he tried walking over security guard's orders at a train station in USA - he would have been in jail, his daughter in custody, needing a lawyer and bail money.

Edited March 22, 2012 by Endorphin

[Gone]

All I see is a loser trying to get away with not obeying the law and then complaining after he is hit. Why do these people think they are above the law? What if every passanger carried a shed load of baloons on the BTS? Think HE might complain about that? I sure would.

Just another idiot teaching his children how to grow up and disobey the laws and also how to become an intollerable moron.

These security guards are hired to sustain the laws governing the BTS rules and regulations and are issued batons for a reason, not just to have them hanging on there side. If they allowed EVERY person to break the rules the same way this muppet did then the BTS would be even more hell-ish then they already are don't you think?

Are baloons any different to a pipe bomb? No, not when you don't know what they are filled with. I for one am on the side of the poor security gaurd and thing the farang should be banned from using the system if he can't follow simple rules.

PS: I don't know why the BTS would give this loser 1 cetang !!!!!!

Edited March 22, 2012 by Gone

[NewlyMintedThai]

It's not about Thai or Foreigner, It's about Rules is Rules.

The "rules" are that someone on the BTS ticketing platform with too many balloons is to receive a brutal strike to the head with a metal detector? One strong enough to leave him with blood pouring down his face?

Absolutely, yes. If they ignore a direct order from security staff and barge through the turnstile.

Clearly.

[DP25]

from the uncoordinated movements of the "victim" looks, like he was drunk. As to "miscommunication" there seems to be thai lady (possibly wife), who was trying to mediate.

The clip might be staged, at the end the "cameraman" is signalled tumbs up by the foreigner on the escalator

He's uncoordinated...because he just got BASHED IN THE HEAD with a metal detector by the Thai security guard and there is blood streaming out of his head near his left eye.

Unbelievable some people are defending this, out of a misplaced need to defend Thailand from being bashed. This isn't about bashing on Thais, this about a violent individual who assaulted someone for carrying too many balloons in the BTS ticket area.

This about a violent individual (ie the farang) who doesn't want to follow the rules, and about a guard who is trying to do his job.

Has anyone seen any video about how the farang got the blow to the head? Given the aggressive way the farang was acting, and the way he was trying to push through the guards when they were just trying to tell him he wasn't allowed on with the balloons, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his fault that he got the blow to the head.

His job isn't to hit people in the head with a metal detector if they have too many balloons.

And yes the father is aggressive, because someone just clobbered him in the head with a metal detector because he had too many balloons and there is blooding streaming down his face. The response of a BTS rent a cop to someone having too many balloons isn't to start battering them on the head when they don't listen to you. The guy wasn't even past the turnstile yet when he was attacked.

[Dokman]

Cannot you see that the foreigner have had blooded head before going trough the gate. So, could it be that he was injured before he arrived there?

[Pseudolus]

It's not about Thai or Foreigner, It's about Rules is Rules.

The "rules" are that someone on the BTS ticketing platform with too many balloons is to receive a brutal strike to the head with a metal detector? One strong enough to leave him with blood pouring down his face?

Absolutely, yes. If they ignore a direct order from security staff and barge through the turnstile.

Clearly.

He did have a choice whether to allegedly kick over a bin and then push a female guard (the same one he lunges at later in the clip?) which is what he did according to another witness's account of the incident.

[newermonkey]

This whole incident ballooned right up and hits the point home that no one is safe in Thailand !

Edited March 22, 2012 by newermonkey

[Suradit69]

From what I saw of the video and read elsewhere, it's the guys own fault. He tried to do something that isn't allowed, got abusive, and got what was to be expected when you get abusive with security/police.

How convenient that someone was on hand to video the whole thing from start to finish.

Another Andrew Drummond spectacular.

This whole incident balooned right up and hits the point home that no one is safe in Thailand !

I guess if you are desperate "to hit a point," everything appears to be a hammer.

Edited March 22, 2012 by Suradit69

[Head Snake]

This stuff would not have happened if the man hadn't been drinking alcohol. I know its an assumption; but, after looking at the video, it appears the guy is loaded and in typical alcoholic form.

I wonder how this gentleman will get through Swampy immigration. They should open up a bar so people can pass the time while standing in line at immigration. Then we could see more of this type of behaviour on youtube.

[TackyToo]

Wrong headline!

In my humble opinion, the guy got what he deserves exept a serious kick in the crotch for acting like this in front of his kid!

[mauGR1]

All I see is a loser trying to get away with not obeying the law and then complaining after he is hit. Why do these people think they are above the law? What if every passanger carried a shed load of baloons on the BTS? Think HE might complain about that? I sure would.

Just another idiot teaching his children how to grow up and disobey the laws and also how to become an intollerable moron.

These security guards are hired to sustain the laws governing the BTS rules and regulations and are issued batons for a reason, not just to have them hanging on there side. If they allowed EVERY person to break the rules the same way this muppet did then the BTS would be even more hell-ish then they already are don't you think?

Are baloons any different to a pipe bomb? No, not when you don't know what they are filled with. I for one am on the side of the poor security gaurd and thing the farang should be banned from using the system if he can't follow simple rules.

PS: I don't know why the BTS would give this loser 1 cetang !!!!!!

Well said..And the job of this guy is "teacher" lol ..I feel sorry for the little girl..and i am not saying that he deserved to be hit...probably paying the bad karma of 1000 arrogant foreigners

[sfbandung]

No balloons means no balloons. He gets told and then figures, "F you, I'll do whatever I bloody well like".

Cop it sweet. This thing is ridiculous. A debate about whether the Thai security were too harsh is meaningless, it would not have happened if he had just done what he was told.

[whybother]

This about a violent individual (ie the farang) who doesn't want to follow the rules, and about a guard who is trying to do his job.

Has anyone seen any video about how the farang got the blow to the head? Given the aggressive way the farang was acting, and the way he was trying to push through the guards when they were just trying to tell him he wasn't allowed on with the balloons, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his fault that he got the blow to the head.

His job isn't to hit people in the head with a metal detector if they have too many balloons.

And yes the father is aggressive, because someone just clobbered him in the head with a metal detector because he had too many balloons and there is blooding streaming down his face. The response of a BTS rent a cop to someone having too many balloons isn't to start battering them on the head when they don't listen to you. The guy wasn't even past the turnstile yet when he was attacked.

It's their job to stop people getting on the train with things that are prohibited.

How hard is it to understand?

[whybother]

From what I saw of the video and read elsewhere, it's the guys own fault. He tried to do something that isn't allowed, got abusive, and got what was to be expected when you get abusive with security/police.

How convenient that someone was on hand to video the whole thing from start to finish.

Another Andrew Drummond spectacular.

... well, not quite the start. Just after any evidence that might show why the farang was clubbed.

[spidermike007]

Yes, carrying balloons is quite a serious offense. Thankfully this kind of thing does not seem to happen too often, but it would be nice to see the security guard get a year or so in prison for assault. Likelihood of that happening? The toy police would have to do some real work. Seriously, this guard punk needs his ass kicked.

[sparebox2]

This about a violent individual (ie the farang) who doesn't want to follow the rules, and about a guard who is trying to do his job.

Has anyone seen any video about how the farang got the blow to the head? Given the aggressive way the farang was acting, and the way he was trying to push through the guards when they were just trying to tell him he wasn't allowed on with the balloons, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his fault that he got the blow to the head.

His job isn't to hit people in the head with a metal detector if they have too many balloons.

And yes the father is aggressive, because someone just clobbered him in the head with a metal detector because he had too many balloons and there is blooding streaming down his face. The response of a BTS rent a cop to someone having too many balloons isn't to start battering them on the head when they don't listen to you. The guy wasn't even past the turnstile yet when he was attacked.

It's their job to stop people getting on the train with things that are prohibited.

How hard is it to understand?

Like chewing gum in Singapore MRT?

[BKKBrit]

he is an Irish Gentleman and by all accounts a highly respected and qualified teacher

Lolz.

"Gentleman" indeed.

You beat me to it!! And a teacher that doesn't understand 'no'

[DP25]

This about a violent individual (ie the farang) who doesn't want to follow the rules, and about a guard who is trying to do his job.

Has anyone seen any video about how the farang got the blow to the head? Given the aggressive way the farang was acting, and the way he was trying to push through the guards when they were just trying to tell him he wasn't allowed on with the balloons, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his fault that he got the blow to the head.

His job isn't to hit people in the head with a metal detector if they have too many balloons.

And yes the father is aggressive, because someone just clobbered him in the head with a metal detector because he had too many balloons and there is blooding streaming down his face. The response of a BTS rent a cop to someone having too many balloons isn't to start battering them on the head when they don't listen to you. The guy wasn't even past the turnstile yet when he was attacked.

It's their job to stop people getting on the train with things that are prohibited.

How hard is it to understand?

How hard is to understand that bashing someone in the head with a metal detector is not the appropriate response? It is assault. He wasn't near the train. He hadn't even gone through the ticket turnstile yet. This isnt how things should be dealt with

And according to the other thread, the guard said it was ok to take balloons on the train, just not all of them.

Anyway they seem to have this on CCTV, and given that they are compensating him, they probably know that this is assault and are trying to calm things over.