Lite Beer Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Thaksin hails 'signs of reconciliation' at mass rally Siem Reap, Cambodia, April 14, 2012 (AFP) - Ousted Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra said Saturday Thailand could begin to heal its deep political rifts in an address to thousands of "Red Shirt" supporters in Cambodia. Thaksin, a divisive figure in his homeland who lives abroad to avoid a jail term for corruption, was greeted with cheers in northwestern Siem Reap province, in the first major rally he has attended since being toppled from power in a military coup in 2006. "There are signs of reconciliation. Everybody wants it... There are signs that I will be able to return home to stay with you," he said, adding that royal anniversaries this year make it an "auspicious time". Up to 30,000 people had gathered at the site, according to Siem Reap deputy provincial governor Bun Tharith, although an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000. Supporters, who filed through x-ray machines to enter the arena, carried pictures of the former tycoon and waved banners that read: "We want Thaksin home". Many had made the journey across the border in hundreds of cars and buses to see their hero, who lives in Dubai to avoid a two-year prison sentence that he contends is politically motivated. Thaksin is much-loved by many poor Thais but hated by parts of the Bangkok-based elite in military, palace and bureaucratic circles who see him as a threat to the monarchy. Mass Red Shirt protests in the Thai capital in 2010 descended into the kingdom's worst political violence in decades, with more than 90 people -- mostly civilians -- killed in a military crackdown. Thaksin, whose sister became Thai prime minister in 2011, has appeared by video link at the Reds' mass rallies and he sent an address from neighbouring Laos on Wednesday to say he expects to set foot in Thailand again this year. The businessman-turned-politician, who followed his speech with renditions of popular Thai songs, told the crown there had been four failed attempts on his life, but declined to give details, adding: "I survived, I will not die". Phnom Penh put on a large security presence for the event in Siem Reap, best known as the gateway to Cambodia's famed temples, but denied there was any particular threat. Cambodia and Thailand traded heavy arms fire over a disputed border in early 2011 under the previous Thai government, but ties have warmed significantly since Thaksin's sister Yingluck took power. -- (c) Copyright AFP 2012-04-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The return of the Messias. 3.0 Dont forget to download this important update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 another free concert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The delusional world of Thaksin, 'everybody wants it', this guy will be quite happy to destroy Thailand just to get what he wants--rather than what anybody else wants, let alone what everybody wants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KireB Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 And the sad thing off it all is that I am afraid it will indeed happen! With or without violence and bloodshed, but he will return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "... I will not die". Oh my! Delusions of immortality, as well as many other less charming traits. " .....an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000." Would that include the 4500 Cambodian security, and the Red Guards (I assume paid attendees), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The delusional world of Thaksin, 'everybody wants it', this guy will be quite happy to destroy Thailand just to get what he wants--rather than what anybody else wants, let alone what everybody wants. Yes. He is so full of vengeance, he is willing to do anything for it. I wish he just would vanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "... I will not die". Oh my! Delusions of immortality, as well as many other less charming traits. " .....an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000." Would that include the 4500 Cambodian security, and the Red Guards (I assume paid attendees), Don´t forget the "rented" Cambodian Redshirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "... I will not die". Oh my! Delusions of immortality, as well as many other less charming traits. " .....an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000." Would that include the 4500 Cambodian security, and the Red Guards (I assume paid attendees), Don´t forget the "rented" Cambodian Redshirts. and the incidental tourists, reporters and those on visa runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "There are signs of reconciliation. Everybody wants it... There are signs that I will be able to return home to stay with you," he said or in other words, as Dept. PM and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit said "There is no need for the government to hold dialogue with people who still disagree with key elements of the national reconciliation plan as it has been endorsed by Parliament" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "... I will not die". Oh my! Delusions of immortality, as well as many other less charming traits. " .....an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000." Would that include the 4500 Cambodian security, and the Red Guards (I assume paid attendees), Don´t forget the "rented" Cambodian Redshirts. and the incidental tourists, reporters and those on visa runs. And the fake redshirts.....all in all probably only about 30-40 people genuine red shirts. Every time it's the same, you guys ought to take a look at yourselves, trying to downgrade the numbers, . What difference to you do the numbers make - you don't even like the guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "... I will not die". Oh my! Delusions of immortality, as well as many other less charming traits. " .....an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000." Would that include the 4500 Cambodian security, and the Red Guards (I assume paid attendees), Don´t forget the "rented" Cambodian Redshirts. and the incidental tourists, reporters and those on visa runs. And the fake redshirts.....all in all probably only about 30-40 people genuine red shirts. Every time it's the same, you guys ought to take a look at yourselves, trying to downgrade the numbers, . What difference to you do the numbers make - you don't even like the guy. Independent of 'liking the guy', there are posters here who like the truth which includes numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I think that if Thaksin wants to keep talking about 'reconciliation' then we need to a clear definition of what he thinks the word means. It might be safe to assume that his interpretation of the word is at variance with its standard use--i.e. merely a euthanisam for should not go to jail and I never did anything wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlansford Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "... I will not die". Oh my! Delusions of immortality, as well as many other less charming traits. " .....an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000." Would that include the 4500 Cambodian security, and the Red Guards (I assume paid attendees), Don´t forget the "rented" Cambodian Redshirts. and the incidental tourists, reporters and those on visa runs. And the fake redshirts.....all in all probably only about 30-40 people genuine red shirts. Every time it's the same, you guys ought to take a look at yourselves, trying to downgrade the numbers, . What difference to you do the numbers make - you don't even like the guy. come on phiphidon, they have a point, you know.... once you account for all of their paid-for fantasy-spectators and holograms, it just becomes an intimate family outing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "it just becomes an intimate family outing" You mean the Shinawatras, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 #12 Thank you rubl. Thats exactly what this is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 "There are signs of reconciliation. Everybody wants it... There are signs that I will be able to return home to stay with you," he said or in other words, as Dept. PM and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit said "There is no need for the government to hold dialogue with people who still disagree with key elements of the national reconciliation plan as it has been endorsed by Parliament" Perhaps I'm not clear about reconcilliation, I thought it meant conversing and exchanging views with people whom you disagree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimay11 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 "There are signs of reconciliation. Everybody wants it... There are signs that I will be able to return home to stay with you," he said or in other words, as Dept. PM and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit said "There is no need for the government to hold dialogue with people who still disagree with key elements of the national reconciliation plan as it has been endorsed by Parliament" Perhaps I'm not clear about reconcilliation, I thought it meant conversing and exchanging views with people whom you disagree with. In the real world you are 100% correct. But in PTP's world it is "my way or no way". Case in point is Yongyuth's statement. We don't need no stinkin dialogue with people comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 #12 Thank you rubl. Thats exactly what this is about. So it's not all about Thaksin, it's about the truth of the numbers of ordinary people who attend rallies in a completely different country having paid their own way to get there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exeter Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Manchester City 6 Norwich City 1, the news just get better and better. A spokesperson for the EMPL said there were no plans to broadcast any gathering in Laos or Cambodia during the half time interval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Perhaps I'm not clear about reconcilliation, I thought it meant conversing and exchanging views with people whom you disagree with. In the real world you are 100% correct. But in PTP's world it is "my way or no way". Case in point is Yongyuth's statement. We don't need no stinkin dialogue with people comes to mind. It's very difficult to hold dialogue with people who were stating, even back in December 2011; "If the red-shirt movement does not come to an end, then the reconciliation cannot be achieved as per the 66/23 model,"(Pheu Thai MP Wattana Muangsuk, who is also deputy chairman of the House of Representatives committee on reconciliation, said earlier that his panel would study the 66/23 formula for reconciliation. The 66/23 model was used by General Prem Tinsulanonda's government, which allowed communists to return to society and join a national development programme.) http://www.nationmul...e-30172336.html Edited April 15, 2012 by phiphidon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 A sideshow for the ASEAN summit. Recall when he bullied them back when he was PM? "If anyone mentions Tak Bai I'm walking out!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Four failed assassination attempts. Refused to give any details. Zero credibility then. Posted with Thaivisa App http://apps.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 An uncomplimentary post about Abhisit's family has been deleted. Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 In the real world you are 100% correct. But in PTP's world it is "my way or no way". Case in point is Yongyuth's statement. We don't need no stinkin dialogue with people comes to mind. It's very difficult to hold dialogue with people who were stating, even back in December 2011; "If the red-shirt movement does not come to an end, then the reconciliation cannot be achieved as per the 66/23 model,"(Pheu Thai MP Wattana Muangsuk, who is also deputy chairman of the House of Representatives committee on reconciliation, said earlier that his panel would study the 66/23 formula for reconciliation. The 66/23 model was used by General Prem Tinsulanonda's government, which allowed communists to return to society and join a national development programme.) http://www.nationmul...e-30172336.html You're taking that statement out of context, PPD. "cannot be achieved as per the 66/23 model" The 66/23 model was designed to bring students back in that were not following the communist ideology. How does that model work for the red shirts if they continue to have their "Red Shirt / Thaksin" villages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Let's be honest here Indeed an attribute that Thaksin his family and their brown nosing acolytes have no conception of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimay11 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Perhaps I'm not clear about reconcilliation, I thought it meant conversing and exchanging views with people whom you disagree with. In the real world you are 100% correct. But in PTP's world it is "my way or no way". Case in point is Yongyuth's statement. We don't need no stinkin dialogue with people comes to mind. It's very difficult to hold dialogue with people who were stating, even back in December 2011; "If the red-shirt movement does not come to an end, then the reconciliation cannot be achieved as per the 66/23 model,"(Pheu Thai MP Wattana Muangsuk, who is also deputy chairman of the House of Representatives committee on reconciliation, said earlier that his panel would study the 66/23 formula for reconciliation. The 66/23 model was used by General Prem Tinsulanonda's government, which allowed communists to return to society and join a national development programme.) http://www.nationmul...e-30172336.html So you agree as long as it is endorsed by a PTP controlled parliament there is no need to hold dialogue with anyone who disagrees and consider their point of view right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 Thaksin leads supporters to give alms to Buddhist monks in Cambodia's Siem Riep, reiterates he will return to Thailand soon /MCOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 Thaksin leads 20,000 red-shirts to make merit in Siem Reap Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, his son, sister and Pheu Thai MPs led about 20,000 red-shirt people to make merit at the Angkor Wat in Cambodia's Siem Reap Sunday. They gave alms to 265 monks on the occasion of Songkran festival. Accompanying Thaksin were his son, Pantongtae, his sister, Yaowapha Wongsawat, leading Pheu Thai MPs and red-shirt leaders. -- The Nation 2012-04-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I have to agree with Thaksin about signs of reconciliation - nobody tried to shoot him (yet). Perhaps they heard about his immortality amulet. Whatever the numbers, there certainly wasn't enough to feed his ego, or risk a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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