Don't despair Boo..... Rigger is why some of us smart, beautiful western women abandoned the likes of him for a life searching the world of alternatives......

I know really deep down you want me

Don't despair Boo..... Rigger is why some of us smart, beautiful western women abandoned the likes of him for a life searching the world of alternatives......

I know really deep down you want me

I don't do Riggers!

Don't despair Boo..... Rigger is why some of us smart, beautiful western women abandoned the likes of him for a life searching the world of alternatives......

I know really deep down you want me

I don't do Riggers!

Don't despair Boo..... Rigger is why some of us smart, beautiful western women abandoned the likes of him for a life searching the world of alternatives......

I know really deep down you want me

I don't do Riggers!

I'm sorry............. but, you aked for it!!!! Hugs?

Modern Woman 2

First of all, I work, take care of myself, and my house is spotlessly clean. I ALWAYS clean my house, and if I lived with a man who also worked, I would expect we would BOTH help each other to keep it clean. If that becomes impossible because of our schedules, then we would hire a housekeeper.

As for referring to modern women as bitches, I guess that's the price we have to pay for turning down men so inferior, that they have to denigrate women who are not sexually interested.

If that's what you call a bitch, then you can be sure I'd rather my dauther be one, rather than someone's mute, timid, apathetic, or uneducated wife/chattel.

I am so thankful that I am not back in my mother's generation, where a marriage to someone like you would have been my best option

Kat~

You know there's no disrespect in this series I'm posting.

Jing jing!

Modern Woman 3

I don't do Riggers!

Only toy-boys, right? (refer to Bambi's adventure thread).

And Endure, in most "traditional" relationships the woman 'gathered' while the men 'hunted' -no such thing as a stay at home wife.

I'l take your word for it. I'm not very conversant with the 'wife' thing

First of all, I work, take care of myself, and my house is spotlessly clean. I ALWAYS clean my house, and if I lived with a man who also worked, I would expect we would BOTH help each other to keep it clean. If that becomes impossible because of our schedules, then we would hire a housekeeper.

As for referring to modern women as bitches, I guess that's the price we have to pay for turning down men so inferior, that they have to denigrate women who are not sexually interested.

If that's what you call a bitch, then you can be sure I'd rather my dauther be one, rather than someone's mute, timid, apathetic, or uneducated wife/chattel.

I am so thankful that I am not back in my mother's generation, where a marriage to someone like you would have been my best option

A bitch to me means someone who is snappy unhappy always complaining nothing is ever good enough and shows little respect for other people. This I know as I was with one for 10years

And Kat you sure seem a little up tight and you post like you have a real hatred for men in general are you sure you are not a double muff buffer

I don't do Riggers!

Only toy-boys, right? (refer to Bambi's adventure thread).

Age is but a number......

Modern Woman 4

Modern Woman 5

Yes, welcome Fredpat.

The fact is, if more 20 year old men were mature enough (yeah, right!) to be in a monogomous relationship (ha, ha, ha, ha!!) AND had a decent job and enough money to support a family, then the old geezers here would be shit out of luck.

This is classic.

Are you sure you are a guy?

Yes, I'm sure I'm a guy. That's not to say that based on my previous comment I'm taking sides. It's just true, that's all. Ninety-nine percent of men think with their you-know-whats, increasing in degree as they get older. While I don't want to lump ALL over-50 men in the same group, IMO regardless of the man, his status, or the size of his bank account, every one of them will argue tooth and nail to convince those who will listen that their young little hardbody is with them for love and not money. Likeminded gents in similar domestic situations will endorse this way of thinking, thereby allowing themselves and their brethren to continue believing that which they know just isn't true. Seriously, any "old geezer" who is deluded into thinking that the "lady" he's with, who incidentally is a couple of years younger than his youngest daughter, wouldn't drop him faster than a bad habit should she meet a loaded, hard-bodied stud is living in a fantasy world. Sorry, don't know how I got onto the older men/younger women thing. The bottom line is that both men and women need to be a lot more honest with each other right from the get go if they want their relationships to endure. IMO, the most important factor influencing a relationship is TRUST. Without it there can be no relationship. Perhaps this explains it:

"Trust is the strongest adhesive in the world, while deceit is the most effective solvent" DFM 2006.

Anyway, when my wife and I were married, I was making the lion's share of our income, so we almost naturally fell into traditional roles, ie., man work, lady stay home. My wife continued to work, however, on a part-time basis. Not for the money, but just to keep her mind exercised. I paid for everything - vacations, rent, bills, food, pensions, health insurance, savings, etc. - but I didn't give my wife any money. Basically, she kept what she earned from working for herself and I took care of everything else. It worked well, as I didn't have the time to keep the apartment neat and tidy, although I did 99.9% of the cooking. I suspect that one of the reasons it worked well for us while it lasted was that my wife knew that I was with her for love and not so I could have a live-in maid. As my mother taught me how to cook, clean, sew, etc., I've never needed anyone to "take care" of me. I always laugh when I tell Thai women I'm single, and they say, "But who's going to take care of you?" The fact is, I can take care myself just fine.

In terms of money, this is a VERY important matter to discuss BEFORE getting married as is having children. Remember that love CANNOT pay the bills!. My wife and I both agreed that we wouldn't be having children before we got married, so that was never an issue. However, for those women who decide or otherwise end up taking care of the home, I believe they all should receive a state pension that is commensurate with keeping a full-time job, as housekeeping entails a lot more than just a bit of dusting, particularly if there are children.

A big problem I've noticed in Asia is that it is the very women that complain about their lot in life vis-a-vis their position in the societal hierarchy who continue to perpetuate the existence of the partriarchal society in which they've been brought up. This was really evident in Japan. On the one hand, women I spoke with would complain about their husbands who suffer from "Mazza Con" (this means mother complex), that is, grown men who act like spoiled kids when they don't get their way (like a mamma's boy), yet when they had their own children, would continue to maintain and teach the traditional male/female roles taught to them, thereby creating a vicious circle that is difficult from which to break.

Anyway, I'm rambling, but I'm enjoying this discourse. I'd like to continue, so please comment on my comments, good or bad, and I promise not to take my ball home.

you are a very wise man....lol

First of all, I work, take care of myself, and my house is spotlessly clean. I ALWAYS clean my house, and if I lived with a man who also worked, I would expect we would BOTH help each other to keep it clean. If that becomes impossible because of our schedules, then we would hire a housekeeper.

As for referring to modern women as bitches, I guess that's the price we have to pay for turning down men so inferior, that they have to denigrate women who are not sexually interested.

If that's what you call a bitch, then you can be sure I'd rather my dauther be one, rather than someone's mute, timid, apathetic, or uneducated wife/chattel.

I am so thankful that I am not back in my mother's generation, where a marriage to someone like you would have been my best option

A bitch to me means someone who is snappy unhappy always complaining nothing is ever good enough and shows little respect for other people. This I know as I was with one for 10years

And Kat you sure seem a little up tight and you post like you have a real hatred for men in general are you sure you are not a double muff buffer

Really, well based on the history of your comments compared to mine, you are a much bigger bitch than me. Are you sure you're a man? oh, nevermind; it really wouldn't matter to most on this forum anyway

I saw a slogen back home that said...

'A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle'.

That's the message in the west and it makes us feel unwanted and un-needed, and real men such as myself, like to be needed.

Turn it around wes, does a man really need a women? To me, if your answer is yes, it would suggest on some level that men are incapable of doing things for themselves or being on thier own, which I don't beleive to be true. No one needs another person if they are able bodied & mentally intact but it is nice to want somebody or be wanted. I would rather be wanted than needed.

Also, if you can't handle a bit of a joke aimed a men after all the women jokes & sexist humour that we have had to put up with over the years, then thats something your going to have to deal with isn't it. It's the noughties we are living in, innit?

Different strokes for different folks, maybe? My Asian partner likes me because I don't "need" him and I quote "It's because you're independent". "Need" sounds a bit desperate. I do want him in my life though, and he wants me in his too. And because he has grown up with the Aussie sense of equality, I'm expected to pull my weight, which I do willingly (it helps having a job you love). We do things together as well as individuals.

A real man should be wanted, not needed. I can depend on my man to help me out financially if I "need" it, but thanks to my situation and opportunities I don't. That is not to say that this may change in the future, but he's lucky in that he can expect the same from me.

...my 2 cent...

...I don't want to support financially noone, Thai or falan....why do that???...

...I really never understood why so many people do that....

...but, obviously, everyone is free to do what want...but...nothing better to do with money than support someone else????

...I have much more ideas....

I'm so curious, please share your ideas?! You have 'good heart'!

LaoPo

Sorry for the delay but i was on holiday...

...I think I have a real good heart even I don't like support noone.

In my opinion is a little bit sad have someone who depends entirely from you...and in thailand often is not only your girlfriend/wife...you know what I mean...

When I'm with a girl (Thai or Falan) I like pay everything and I don't like let the girl pay...and I'm really generous...believe me!!!

...my ideas???...In Thailand girls are so beautiful...

First of all, I work, take care of myself, and my house is spotlessly clean. I ALWAYS clean my house, and if I lived with a man who also worked, I would expect we would BOTH help each other to keep it clean. If that becomes impossible because of our schedules, then we would hire a housekeeper.

As for referring to modern women as bitches, I guess that's the price we have to pay for turning down men so inferior, that they have to denigrate women who are not sexually interested.

If that's what you call a bitch, then you can be sure I'd rather my dauther be one, rather than someone's mute, timid, apathetic, or uneducated wife/chattel.

I am so thankful that I am not back in my mother's generation, where a marriage to someone like you would have been my best option

A bitch to me means someone who is snappy unhappy always complaining nothing is ever good enough and shows little respect for other people. This I know as I was with one for 10years

And Kat you sure seem a little up tight and you post like you have a real hatred for men in general are you sure you are not a double muff buffer

Really, well based on the history of your comments compared to mine, you are a much bigger bitch than me. Are you sure you're a man? oh, nevermind; it really wouldn't matter to most on this forum anyway

No I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body

Modern Woman 6

Borrowing from the Boonster>

Modern Woman 7