Is Thailand Really Cheaper For You ?

[nietzche]

You're telling us you travelled all this way just because you couldn't get laid back in the U.K? Really?

I've spent a lot of time in the U.K. Picking up women there is like shooting fish in a barrel.

As for the "younger" thing. I'm 29. Back in the U.S I had a 23 year old girlfriend. Felt like I was babysitting half the time. Don't know why all you old fellas like the young girls so much. What could you possible talk about with a girl a generation younger than yourself?

1) No, I didn't tell you that, it was the farm that sealed the deal.

2) I never fancied being a whaler.

3) I'm 57, back in the UK I had a 23 year old girlfriend too.

4) I'm guessing you have never had sex with a 60 year old women, give it a go, then reply back.

I agree about the 23 year old babysitting line, I felt that too. Mid 30s is much better.

I've actually sampled women from 23-60 in my last year in the UK, for talking and good company, the 60 year old beat the rest of the field hands down (but ruined everything by constantly trying to shag me), but for sex it was always back home to the 23 year old.

Fair enough.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Don't know why all you old fellas like the young girls so much. What could you possible talk about with a girl a generation younger than yourself?

And I'm quite happy to talk to many many intelligent people I come across in my professional and social life, but for shagging it's now gotten down to maybe one in 20,000 or so in the general population, maybe ten times that in the former - and they wouldn't want an old fat selfish geezer like me at any price.

Never found it good policy to try for "all in one", specialist to suit the role best IMO.

And just one? Don't think they make generations that long. . .

[Spoonman]

If you don't pay rent but it cost several million baht it's not free ! lol ..... It's 20,000 bhat per month for 20 years ! LOL

And after 20yrs (or sooner/now/anytime assuming no mortgage) there is a property that can be sold, try doing that with your rent ! LOL.

Edited June 11, 2012 by Spoonman

[BigJohnnyBKK]

And after 20yrs (or sooner/now/anytime assuming no mortgage) there is a property that can be sold, try doing that with your rent ! LOL.

Probably more like 30 factoring in the common/maintenance fees, over which you have no control, depends on the quality of the original construction etc.

Take the same money and invest it at much less risk elsewhere makes much more sense financially, unless you get the rent/price ratio down under 12 IMO.

Plus flexibility, time it takes to sell at the price you want, have to take a bath if you want it within a few months. . .

[saorsa]

Cambodia is even cheaper.

I hear Kazakhstan and Mongolia are even cheaper, but what are you looking for out of life? It needs to be affordable and enjoyable, and Thailand ranks pretty well on both fronts. Buy your beer at Big C instead of the farang bar, eat good Thai food at local markets instead of in restaurants, ride a Click instead of a Harley, live 20 minutes out of town, it all becomes much cheaper that way but just as enjoyable. How many of you really came here to die from overdosing on KFC and crappy German beer?

Actually Kazakhstan is an expensive place (I am there working now)

[tjhorner]

I have read this whole thread and just cannot believe that people think that living in Thailand cannot be cheaper....

I live in Bangkok, came from Atlanta, GA. With the exception of cars and dairy products everything here is cheaper for me. I guess if one wanted to live and have exactly the same here as they did back home then maybe, just maybe it could be more expensive. But if I lived in the US and wanted to live like I lived from the UK, then the cost of the imported goods would be more expensive.

Some of you are delusional, plain and simple. I spend 50% less here, and I am more comfortable. To each there own, though.

[MrRealDeal]

No one is saying it's "can't" be cheaper ..... I was asking if it ended up cheaper and if people felt it was worth it. I don't spend any less than in the USA just spend it on different things is all.

[tjhorner]

No one is saying it's "can't" be cheaper ..... I was asking if it ended up cheaper and if people felt it was worth it. I don't spend any less than in the USA just spend it on different things is all.

Maybe I just don't understand what your spending more or the same on??? Yes, there are a few import items that cost more.... But my rent is 60% cheaper. All my utilities are cheaper, going to the movies is half.... Hell, I spend 12 bucks on a haircut at Supercuts or GreatClips in the States, here 90thb.

I guess you can spend more on other things if you save on other things here. If I made more money in the US, I would most likely spend more money too........

If you can't spend less money here than in AUS, UK, or USA then you need help. JMHOIME

[Naam]

\isn't it more fun to die drinking German beer than the diluted horse piss they call "ale" on that remote island located in the North Sea?

As long as you don't have to drink it with Germans ....... yes.

believe it or not, i fully agree with you! i can hardly stand Germans in Germany and i hate Germans abroad. especially when they appear in crowds, i.e. more than one.

[telldem]

No!

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[MB1]

I still own a house in the UK and my wife owns our house in Thailand so no mortages or rent to consider. Owning ahouse here is cheaper than the UK as no Council tax so on average an immediate saving of GBP 2,000 per annum. Electricity is about the same, air con here heating in the UK. Water charges here are much cheaper, about a GBP 1,000 saving per year. Repairs here in Thailand are much cheaper (we live near Korat) but the standard and reliability leaves a lot to be desired. Buying a car here is more expensive but running costs are lower Diesel about THB 31 pr Litre in the UK about THB 75 and service costs are much lower. Food costs are in my opinion about the same as I buy from Fresh Mart in the Mall and buy good quality beef. Lasts weeks shop cost THB 7,300. However there are cheaper options and meat from the local market is much cheaper but its not for me. A lunch in Sizzler for my wife and I usually averages THB 1,000, no beer just coke. In the UK we return every yearfor about 3 months many places are doing a two course lunch for 2 persons at GBP 9.99 or THB 500. Premier Inns offer this all day until 6pm. Many local pubs had to follow to maintain business. In a local restaurant (good standard) we pay about GBP 70 (THB3,)500 including a bottle of the house wine. In Pattaya and Bangkok we often pay between THB 5,000 to 7,500 for about the same standard, wine is really expensive here in Thailand, especially so in good standard restaurants. When we eat locally here in Thailand in restaurants that provide European meals we usually pay between THB 400 and 1,200 including a couple of beers.

I am fairly certain that is is cheaper in general to live here in Thailand but then these savings are offset by the costs when we return to the UK. We still holiday here in Thailand but if we lived in the UK we would avoid the travel costs of our annual visit.

All in all it is swings and roundabouts but I much prefer the 'swings' here in Thailand to the 'roundabouts' in the UK. Life is much less regulated here in Thailand and the climate is of course much better. We are here in Thailand to enjoy our life and not here because it may be cheaper to live here. If you want to live a cheap life in Thailand then there is that opportunity that is not really available in the UK.

I dont know where your house is in the Uk, but you say you save 1000 Uk pounds per year water rates... errrrrrmm the reported average water rates charge in the UK from what I read for 2012/2013 is around the 380 Uk pounds mark.

I do know Thai's demand you shower alot but oh my you seem to use a hell of a lot of water if metered and if not metered you must live in a mansion.

I live in a 4 bedroomed house and my water rates are under 300 per year

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Edited June 11, 2012 by MB1

[edwinclapham]

I still own a house in the UK and my wife owns our house in Thailand so no mortages or rent to consider. Owning ahouse here is cheaper than the UK as no Council tax so on average an immediate saving of GBP 2,000 per annum. Electricity is about the same, air con here heating in the UK. Water charges here are much cheaper, about a GBP 1,000 saving per year. Repairs here in Thailand are much cheaper (we live near Korat) but the standard and reliability leaves a lot to be desired. Buying a car here is more expensive but running costs are lower Diesel about THB 31 pr Litre in the UK about THB 75 and service costs are much lower. Food costs are in my opinion about the same as I buy from Fresh Mart in the Mall and buy good quality beef. Lasts weeks shop cost THB 7,300. However there are cheaper options and meat from the local market is much cheaper but its not for me. A lunch in Sizzler for my wife and I usually averages THB 1,000, no beer just coke. In the UK we return every yearfor about 3 months many places are doing a two course lunch for 2 persons at GBP 9.99 or THB 500. Premier Inns offer this all day until 6pm. Many local pubs had to follow to maintain business. In a local restaurant (good standard) we pay about GBP 70 (THB3,)500 including a bottle of the house wine. In Pattaya and Bangkok we often pay between THB 5,000 to 7,500 for about the same standard, wine is really expensive here in Thailand, especially so in good standard restaurants. When we eat locally here in Thailand in restaurants that provide European meals we usually pay between THB 400 and 1,200 including a couple of beers.

I am fairly certain that is is cheaper in general to live here in Thailand but then these savings are offset by the costs when we return to the UK. We still holiday here in Thailand but if we lived in the UK we would avoid the travel costs of our annual visit.

All in all it is swings and roundabouts but I much prefer the 'swings' here in Thailand to the 'roundabouts' in the UK. Life is much less regulated here in Thailand and the climate is of course much better. We are here in Thailand to enjoy our life and not here because it may be cheaper to live here. If you want to live a cheap life in Thailand then there is that opportunity that is not really available in the UK.

I dont know where your house is in the Uk, but you say you save 1000 Uk pounds per year water rates... errrrrrmm the reported average water rates charge in the UK from what I read for 2012/2013 is around the 380 Uk pounds mark.

I do know Thai's demand you shower alot but oh my you seem to use a hell of a lot of water if metered and if not metered you must live in a mansion.

I live in a 4 bedroomed house and my water rates are under 300 per year

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1000GBP for water rates, I would imagine the poster has a few swimming pools to fill up! Like yourself I paid 300.

[MB1]

I probably spend the same but get a lot more for it in Thailand but overall its a lot cheaper here than back in the UK.

2 bed condo in fairly central area of capital city Bangkok: 30,000 baht

For 30,000 baht (600) in London I would be lucky to get a room in a shared house

I didn't have a car back home and don't have one here as taxis are cheap here.

Even going to a good Western restaurant here is cheaper than going to a good western restaurant back in the UK.

Electronics are more expensive here as you don't get the online deals and sales like you do in the UK. Most things in Thailand seem to sell at RRP although I hardly buy any electronics as condo comes with most stuff.

I had a maid/cleaner back home and have one here and although back home they were much better here they are much cheaper.

The think that makes Thailand cheaper is you can have a cheap week if you want and eat cheaply and not do much and still have nice food and maybe go to the cinema and only spend a few quid. Back home if you wanted a cheap week you'd be eating super noodles and sitting in the dark with the lights off!

I for many years in the UK paid for various cleaners but woke up one day and realised that I was paying them for things other than cleaning, they would spend more time in my bedroom than anywhere else in the house, this I realised was wrong and a complete waste of money.

It was fun at the time but I realise now that I get far better value for money in Thailand than I ever got in the UK.

Especially in the early years of my coming to Thailand when it was around 79 baht to the UK pound.

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Edited June 11, 2012 by MB1

[edwinclapham]

\isn't it more fun to die drinking German beer than the diluted horse piss they call "ale" on that remote island located in the North Sea?

As long as you don't have to drink it with Germans ....... yes.

believe it or not, i fully agree with you! i can hardly stand Germans in Germany and i hate Germans abroad. especially when they appear in crowds, i.e. more than one.

Like most nations you find good and bad.

I love the German work ethics, architecture, bierkellers incredible. Wonderful hospitality. Great place to live.

I would say we poms have a wee jealousy problem when it comes to the Germans in many respects

Edited June 11, 2012 by edwinclapham

[Soutpeel]

\isn't it more fun to die drinking German beer than the diluted horse piss they call "ale" on that remote island located in the North Sea?

As long as you don't have to drink it with Germans ....... yes.

believe it or not, i fully agree with you! i can hardly stand Germans in Germany and i hate Germans abroad. especially when they appear in crowds, i.e. more than one.

Like most nations you find good and bad.

I love the German work ethics, architecture, bierkellers incredible. Wonderful hospitality. Great place to live.

I would say we poms have a wee jealousy problem when it comes to the Germans in many respects

I quite enjoy the German sense of humour...

[banglay]

Even after loosing approx 28% of my monthly income(over the last 4 yrs) due to the exchange rate and world fiscal farce. NO way on Earth could I afford to buy a Large 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom Villa with a largish swimming pool with built-in spa .run a new car and 2 new motorbikes ,eat out when I please and live to a moderate standard ( (for gods sake my local council tax was ฿8700/£177 per month back in the UK and thats not expensive )

So yes on every level Thailand is cheaper for me and long may it last (PLEASE)

[MB1]

Even after loosing approx 28% of my monthly income(over the last 4 yrs) due to the exchange rate and world fiscal farce. NO way on Earth could I afford to buy a Large 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom Villa with a largish swimming pool with built-in spa .run a new car and 2 new motorbikes ,eat out when I please and live to a moderate standard ( (for gods sake my local council tax was ฿8700/177 per month back in the UK and thats not expensive )

So yes on every level Thailand is cheaper for me and long may it last (PLEASE)

Where the hell do all you guys have houses in the UK. City of London band H is around 1800 uk pound for 2012/13 and Westminster is around 1400 Pound.

But saying that band H in Leeds my home city is around 2600 UK pounds.

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Edited June 12, 2012 by MB1

[banglay]

Where the hell do all you guys have houses in the UK. City of London band H is around 1800 uk pound for 2012/13 and Westminster is around 1400 Pound.

But saying that band H in Leeds my home city is around 2600 UK pounds.

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Band 'F" North Ferriby East Yorkshire there are better areas to live than The city of London .

[MB1]

Where the hell do all you guys have houses in the UK. City of London band H is around 1800 uk pound for 2012/13 and Westminster is around 1400 Pound.

But saying that band H in Leeds my home city is around 2600 UK pounds.

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Band 'F" North Ferriby East Yorkshire there are better areas to live than The city of London .

I know, that's why I choose to live in Leeds when I'm there.

We even have a Harvey Nics if I so desire to throw money away.

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Edited June 12, 2012 by MB1

[Soutpeel]

oh God lets hope this doesnt turn into another "Pensions" thread arguing over the rates and taxes one has to pay on property in the UK....guys the topic is about things being cheaper in Thailand...not how expensive the rates and taxes in the UK are.....lets please leave it here otherwise the American are going to get involved and start bleating on about taxes etc in Texas or florida...

Edited June 12, 2012 by Soutpeel

[kerryk]

oh God lets hope this doesnt turn into another "Pensions" thread arguing over the rates and taxes one has to pay on property in the UK....guys the topic is about things being cheaper in Thailand...not how expensive the rates and taxes in the UK are.....lets please leave it here otherwise the American are going to get involved and start bleating on about taxes etc in Texas or florida...

I think we are OK now most of the boys have gone to work driving taxi's, sheep shearing or chasing crocks by this time.

[MB1]

oh God lets hope this doesnt turn into another "Pensions" thread arguing over the rates and taxes one has to pay on property in the UK....guys the topic is about things being cheaper in Thailand...not how expensive the rates and taxes in the UK are.....lets please leave it here otherwise the American are going to get involved and start bleating on about taxes etc in Texas or florida...

I'm certainly not arguing about how expensive rates and taxes are ln the UK, I'm just amused that most people who have mentioned the cost of them seem to pay the higher end of the bands.

Is it just a Thai Visa thing and everyone is rich or do they just pretend to be.

I was going to bleat on about how expensive Thailand works out for me in terms of real money by not being an expat and not living here full time but paying for flights maybe 4 times + a year and spending whatever I like within reason whilst in Thailand without having to budget, but still having to pay for everything in the UK but I'll leave it for another day. I'd hate to come across as holier than thou.

The comments I have just made are not aimed at you soutpeel but I'm pretty sure some people will realise I'm aiming them at them.

Thailand is IMO alot cheaper than the UK for most things but it can also be expensive, well to some anyway if you don't have the funds to fund a lifestyle western style.

If people want to live a Thai lifestyle then up to them but even then a Thai lifestyle can turn out to be expensive, it"s all about living how you would like to and living within your means IMO.

I know that because of how the exchange rates have changed over the years some expats are finding it difficult to live and are finding it harder to stay in Thailand.

I hope some of the younger guy's/girls realise this and continue to work hard and invest and get to a stage in life where they can afford to leave their home country and live a life that they can afford without having to worry about money.

Just my opinions.

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[Soutpeel]

oh God lets hope this doesnt turn into another "Pensions" thread arguing over the rates and taxes one has to pay on property in the UK....guys the topic is about things being cheaper in Thailand...not how expensive the rates and taxes in the UK are.....lets please leave it here otherwise the American are going to get involved and start bleating on about taxes etc in Texas or florida...

I'm certainly not arguing about how expensive rates and taxes are ln the UK, I'm just amused that most people who have mentioned the cost of them seem to pay the higher end of the bands.

Is it just a Thai Visa thing and everyone is rich or do they just pretend to be.

I was going to bleat on about how expensive Thailand works out for me in terms of real money by not being an expat and not living here full time but paying for flights maybe 4 times + a year and spending whatever I like within reason whilst in Thailand without having to budget, but still having to pay for everything in the UK but I'll leave it for another day. I'd hate to come across as holier than thou.

The comments I have just made are not aimed at you soutpeel but I'm pretty sure some people will realise I'm aiming them at them.

Thailand is IMO alot cheaper than the UK for most things but it can also be expensive, well to some anyway if you don't have the funds to fund a lifestyle western style.

If people want to live a Thai lifestyle then up to them but even then a Thai lifestyle can turn out to be expensive, it"s all about living how you would like to and living within your means IMO.

I know that because of how the exchange rates have changed over the years some expats are finding it difficult to live and are finding it harder to stay in Thailand.

I hope some of the younger guy's/girls realise this and continue to work hard and invest and get to a stage in life where they can afford to leave their home country and live a life that they can afford without having to worry about money.

Just my opinions.

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Ok...Well here is my perspective actually being an Expat in Thailand for last 10 years or so and being on a "international" salary.

Over the last few years Thailand has got quite expensive in real terms and would suggest it is rapidly catching up with "western countries" as regards costs...

yes I know you can live on mama noodles, water and live in a THB 3000/m squat in Thailand...but is that really living ?...or just existing ?

I know for one, I dont want to be in a position of having to do this after I retire, after spending 30-40 years working

[Billmont]

I still own a house in the UK and my wife owns our house in Thailand so no mortages or rent to consider. Owning ahouse here is cheaper than the UK as no Council tax so on average an immediate saving of GBP 2,000 per annum. Electricity is about the same, air con here heating in the UK. Water charges here are much cheaper, about a GBP 1,000 saving per year. Repairs here in Thailand are much cheaper (we live near Korat) but the standard and reliability leaves a lot to be desired. Buying a car here is more expensive but running costs are lower Diesel about THB 31 pr Litre in the UK about THB 75 and service costs are much lower. Food costs are in my opinion about the same as I buy from Fresh Mart in the Mall and buy good quality beef. Lasts weeks shop cost THB 7,300. However there are cheaper options and meat from the local market is much cheaper but its not for me. A lunch in Sizzler for my wife and I usually averages THB 1,000, no beer just coke. In the UK we return every yearfor about 3 months many places are doing a two course lunch for 2 persons at GBP 9.99 or THB 500. Premier Inns offer this all day until 6pm. Many local pubs had to follow to maintain business. In a local restaurant (good standard) we pay about GBP 70 (THB3,)500 including a bottle of the house wine. In Pattaya and Bangkok we often pay between THB 5,000 to 7,500 for about the same standard, wine is really expensive here in Thailand, especially so in good standard restaurants. When we eat locally here in Thailand in restaurants that provide European meals we usually pay between THB 400 and 1,200 including a couple of beers. I am fairly certain that is is cheaper in general to live here in Thailand but then these savings are offset by the costs when we return to the UK. We still holiday here in Thailand but if we lived in the UK we would avoid the travel costs of our annual visit. All in all it is swings and roundabouts but I much prefer the 'swings' here in Thailand to the 'roundabouts' in the UK. Life is much less regulated here in Thailand and the climate is of course much better. We are here in Thailand to enjoy our life and not here because it may be cheaper to live here. If you want to live a cheap life in Thailand then there is that opportunity that is not really available in the UK.

I dont know where your house is in the Uk, but you say you save 1000 Uk pounds per year water rates... errrrrrmm the reported average water rates charge in the UK from what I read for 2012/2013 is around the 380 Uk pounds mark. I do know Thai's demand you shower alot but oh my you seem to use a hell of a lot of water if metered and if not metered you must live in a mansion. I live in a 4 bedroomed house and my water rates are under 300 per year Sent from my GT-N7000 using Thaivisa Connect App

1000GBP for water rates, I would imagine the poster has a few swimming pools to fill up! Like yourself I paid 300.

I estimated my water bill to be about GBP 1,000 although my actual water bill is a lot higher as I supply to shops through my water meter but their water use is much less than min as I know I use alot of water for reason I will not mention. I will however quote from the BBC News, England as per their Website for the area in which I have my house:

Bills in Devon, Cornwall and parts of Somerset and Dorset, are about £150 higher than the national average.

Now MPs have agreed to legislation will mean a £400m government subsidy for South West Water (SWW).

Before that, however, charges will rise by an average of 4.7% next month - which will take a typical annual bill for SWW customers to £543.

So if the average water bill is about GBP 550 then it follows that some are much lower and other much higher and unfortunately my water bill falls into the latter category. I therefore confirm that my water bill was about GBP 1,000 maybe a little higher or lower so even if it was say GBP 900 this is the saving I am making by moving to Thailand.

[kerryk]

My expenses have gone down over 60% in the past 5 years. Thailand to me seems very inexpensive now.

1. 
   I moved from a 4 bedroom house in Pattaya to a one bedroom condo in a small town.
   
2. 
   I switched from two 20 year old Go Go dancers to a 40 year old educated, hi so Thai woman with an executive job. (Movies and dinner at the mall 900 baht. As opposed to two go go dancers on the town for a night 6000 baht (no sex, just drinks and tips.))
   
3. 
   The doctor told me to stop smoking and drinking and I did.
   

[Hostile17]

No one is saying it's "can't" be cheaper ..... I was asking if it ended up cheaper and if people felt it was worth it. I don't spend any less than in the USA just spend it on different things is all.

Maybe I just don't understand what your spending more or the same on??? Yes, there are a few import items that cost more.... But my rent is 60% cheaper. All my utilities are cheaper, going to the movies is half.... Hell, I spend 12 bucks on a haircut at Supercuts or GreatClips in the States, here 90thb.

I guess you can spend more on other things if you save on other things here. If I made more money in the US, I would most likely spend more money too........

If you can't spend less money here than in AUS, UK, or USA then you need help. JMHOIME

But you could get cheaper than that in a cardboard box in atlanta.

90baht for a haircut in thailand? well that means you're getting it from a cheap barber. You'd get it at the same price at a hair cutting school in atlanta. Most people in bangkok pay 300-500baht for a GOOD haircut. even thais. It's not cheaper, you're just getting a cheaper quality service because its easier to find them in thailand.

take pictures of your building and inside your room and compare it here with your atlanta place. your place will be 60% to 100% worse.

[Ulysses G.]

But you could get cheaper than that in a cardboard box in atlanta.

You can not compare a clean, comfortable room with bath to a cardboard box. Your comparisons are ridiculous. One can live very cheaply in Thailand and still be somewhat sabai, sabai. That is not easy in the West.

[TommoPhysicist]

I'm certainly not arguing about how expensive rates and taxes are ln the UK, I'm just amused that most people who have mentioned the cost of them seem to pay the higher end of the bands.

Is it just a Thai Visa thing and everyone is rich or do they just pretend to be.

Those who have the funds to retire to a foreign country usually have a bit more cash than the average person.

So they wouldn't have been living in a council flat. How hard is that to understand?

[kerryk]

No one is saying it's "can't" be cheaper ..... I was asking if it ended up cheaper and if people felt it was worth it. I don't spend any less than in the USA just spend it on different things is all.

Maybe I just don't understand what your spending more or the same on??? Yes, there are a few import items that cost more.... But my rent is 60% cheaper. All my utilities are cheaper, going to the movies is half.... Hell, I spend 12 bucks on a haircut at Supercuts or GreatClips in the States, here 90thb.

I guess you can spend more on other things if you save on other things here. If I made more money in the US, I would most likely spend more money too........

If you can't spend less money here than in AUS, UK, or USA then you need help. JMHOIME

But you could get cheaper than that in a cardboard box in atlanta.

90baht for a haircut in thailand? well that means you're getting it from a cheap barber. You'd get it at the same price at a hair cutting school in atlanta. Most people in bangkok pay 300-500baht for a GOOD haircut. even thais. It's not cheaper, you're just getting a cheaper quality service because its easier to find them in thailand.

take pictures of your building and inside your room and compare it here with your atlanta place. your place will be 60% to 100% worse.

That is just silly on so many levels. Most people in Bangkok pay 60 baht or less for a haircut to begin with. Also most people in Thailand don't live in Bangkok. Face it pilgrim. You don't have much experience in Thailand.

[how241]

For me, cheaper and better. No comparison.