BangrakBob Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Just listening to a reporter on telly who has done the math on the Adidas deal. He reckons looking at normal shirt sales, for Adidas to get a return on investment the price of the shirts will have to increase to 90-100 quid. I think Barca currently charge 90 euro's and are the most expensive.How much are they now? Just looked on their website and the 2014/15 short sleeved shirt is 55 quid That's some increase if thy raise the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Just listening to a reporter on telly who has done the math on the Adidas deal. He reckons looking at normal shirt sales, for Adidas to get a return on investment the price of the shirts will have to increase to 90-100 quid. I think Barca currently charge 90 euro's and are the most expensive. Likewise mrbj, I don't want to get argumentative and picky. Adidas return on investment will mostly come from volume, not by increasing prices. Bigger market, more shirts. Not same market, higher price. Otherwise Nike would do it. Same boat. Not an argument but I disagree P45. That's why Nike pulled out, they couldn't make commercial sense of it. If as you say they will have to increase volume then Adidas will have to almost double shirt sales to get a return. This is obviously better for the fan but if volume doesn't increase drastically then all that remains is hiking up the prices to fans. Time will tell on who got their figures right. Either Nike or Adidas. Nike pulled out because they've sponsored UNITED for a long time and see the Moyes fiasco and no CL as bad news. Adidas know the real strength of the UNITED brand and are committing to the future. Adidas did UNITED shirts way before Nike did. Adidas will use UNITED to leverage against Nike. And one day soon, some bright executive will go into the Adidas board and make a presentation along the lines of "This is the Adidas Heritage" More top football clubs will wear Adidas than any other kit. Nike might dominate basketball and other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Just listening to a reporter on telly who has done the math on the Adidas deal. He reckons looking at normal shirt sales, for Adidas to get a return on investment the price of the shirts will have to increase to 90-100 quid. I think Barca currently charge 90 euro's and are the most expensive. Likewise mrbj, I don't want to get argumentative and picky. Adidas return on investment will mostly come from volume, not by increasing prices. Bigger market, more shirts. Not same market, higher price. Otherwise Nike would do it. Same boat. Not an argument but I disagree P45. That's why Nike pulled out, they couldn't make commercial sense of it. If as you say they will have to increase volume then Adidas will have to almost double shirt sales to get a return. This is obviously better for the fan but if volume doesn't increase drastically then all that remains is hiking up the prices to fans. Time will tell on who got their figures right. Either Nike or Adidas. Nike pulled out because they've sponsored UNITED for a long time and see the Moyes fiasco and no CL as bad news. Adidas know the real strength of the UNITED brand and are committing to the future. Adidas did UNITED shirts way before Nike did. Adidas will use UNITED to leverage against Nike. And one day soon, some bright executive will go into the Adidas board and make a presentation along the lines of "This is the Adidas Heritage" More top football clubs will wear Adidas than any other kit. Nike might dominate basketball and other stuff. dont necessarily think its totally bout the wedge. things run their natural coarse, and a brand on a shirt has its 'lifetime' utd with nike had reached its given and the brands impact impact with utd had maybe become a norm maybe even stale and could be viewed as under utilized so they pulled out. addidas have a brave new world given to them, at a cost, but 4 them unlike 4 Nike its fresh and its new. just a thought like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) ^ Yep. Good point rij, time to move on. But like redrus said their must be a very good reason why Adidas are shelling the biggest wedge ever to United. Premier League kit deals (£million per year) Manchester UnitedArsenalChelseaLiverpoolManchester CityTottenhamEvertonTeam020406080 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-kit-deal-how-3854184#ixzz37V1dKc6S Edited July 15, 2014 by P45Mustang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nellyp Posted July 15, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2014 I can see the prices skyrocketing. Sales will undoubtedly fall off as fickle Asians turn the purchasing power to another club higher up the table. Adidas have paid the money as they want the long term bonus, and the value of their payment will diminish over 10 years rather than re-negotiating every 3 years. Adidas wanted to add another marque club to their portfolio, and a good one it is (portfolio I mean). They are having a punt with a club that will never become unpopular, but Nike obviously believes that united vying for the highest positions could be a thing of the past. The argument about Adidas being more clued in than Nike holds no water, and to be honest, Football is much more important to Adidas. So my opinion is this, Adidas will come out of this a winner. VG will take at most 3 years to get united back to the top, and Adidas will not need to negotiate a deal with united again. Shirt prices will go up as the increase in sales would be far too much. God i hate the generic shirts that adidas m.ake though 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Just listening to a reporter on telly who has done the math on the Adidas deal. He reckons looking at normal shirt sales, for Adidas to get a return on investment the price of the shirts will have to increase to 90-100 quid. I think Barca currently charge 90 euro's and are the most expensive. Likewise mrbj, I don't want to get argumentative and picky. Adidas return on investment will mostly come from volume, not by increasing prices. Bigger market, more shirts. Not same market, higher price. Otherwise Nike would do it. Same boat. Not an argument but I disagree P45. That's why Nike pulled out, they couldn't make commercial sense of it. If as you say they will have to increase volume then Adidas will have to almost double shirt sales to get a return. This is obviously better for the fan but if volume doesn't increase drastically then all that remains is hiking up the prices to fans. Time will tell on who got their figures right. Either Nike or Adidas. Nike pulled out because they've sponsored UNITED for a long time and see the Moyes fiasco and no CL as bad news. Adidas know the real strength of the UNITED brand and are committing to the future. Adidas did UNITED shirts way before Nike did. Adidas will use UNITED to leverage against Nike. And one day soon, some bright executive will go into the Adidas board and make a presentation along the lines of "This is the Adidas Heritage" More top football clubs will wear Adidas than any other kit. Nike might dominate basketball and other stuff. That's all nice marketing talk but to get back to brass tacs. Do you think Adidas will double current and historical sales or double the cost of the shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I once paid £250 for the "Beckham" phone....and I'm wearing a pair of Adidas trainers right now. Gawd I think I need to lie down...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-YmiGK_MjM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 United Replace Real at the Top of the Worth Tree Again (The Great all Knowing Tree of Worth) I know its The Daily Fail, but it is what it is, alright....!! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2693211/Manchester-United-replace-Real-Madrid-valuable-team-world-Adidas-kit-deal.html redrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Rumour has it that United are after James Rodriguez for £63m. Hope there's no substance in that. He was one of the shining stars in the WC and I'd love to see him at City but maybe in acouple of years when he's filled out a bit. Maybe a tad lightweight for the prem at this stage Sent from my GT-N8000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Rumour has it that United are after James Rodriguez for £63m. Hope there's no substance in that. He was one of the shining stars in the WC and I'd love to see him at City but maybe in acouple of years when he's filled out a bit. Maybe a tad lightweight for the prem at this stage Sent from my GT-N8000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I would love that to be true, £63 mill is an awful lot but, these days, if you keep them for a good proportion of their career, they'll make that back in bucket loads, never mind spades. Re Vidal.... Rumours abound that the Juve manager quit because of differences over the transfer of players..... Read in to that what you will but, managers don't usually quit over players coming in..!! redrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Rumour has it that United are after James Rodriguez for £63m. Hope there's no substance in that. He was one of the shining stars in the WC and I'd love to see him at City but maybe in acouple of years when he's filled out a bit. Maybe a tad lightweight for the prem at this stage Sent from my GT-N8000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Going to Real Madrid mate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 looking at the wedge side it aint just shirt sales.is it. sock shorts coat's trekkies bags and i'm sure the list can go on and on amd on. take the huge spin off in advertising out of the annual spend and then equat what looked expensive 3 years ago dont look so bad 2 day, i reckon addidas havent done 2 bad. like it or not utd are THE WORLDWIDE FOOTIE BRAND and by wedging out huge they've just endorsed its worth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Rumour has it that United are after James Rodriguez for £63m. Hope there's no substance in that. He was one of the shining stars in the WC and I'd love to see him at City but maybe in acouple of years when he's filled out a bit. Maybe a tad lightweight for the prem at this stage Sent from my GT-N8000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I would love that to be true, £63 mill is an awful lot but, these days, if you keep them for a good proportion of their career, they'll make that back in bucket loads, never mind spades. Re Vidal.... Rumours abound that the Juve manager quit because of differences over the transfer of players..... Read in to that what you will but, managers don't usually quit over players coming in..!! redrus I think the Arturo Vidal rumors might have substance as its almost certain conti resigned over differences of opinion over transfers. Lets face you don't get the push having just won the league by seventeen points. Don't United already have an overflow of no10's......anyway if Rodriguez goes anywhere it'll be Real Madrid. Best player in the world cup by a distance despite who FIFA selected. I'd have thought van Gaal could use a box to box midfielder like Vidal more than another no10 though no matter how good the lad obviously is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Rumour has it that United are after James Rodriguez for £63m. Hope there's no substance in that. He was one of the shining stars in the WC and I'd love to see him at City but maybe in acouple of years when he's filled out a bit. Maybe a tad lightweight for the prem at this stage Sent from my GT-N8000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Going to Real Madrid mate. As is another supposed United target, Toni Kroos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Rumour has it that United are after James Rodriguez for £63m. Hope there's no substance in that. He was one of the shining stars in the WC and I'd love to see him at City but maybe in acouple of years when he's filled out a bit. Maybe a tad lightweight for the prem at this stage Sent from my GT-N8000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I would love that to be true, £63 mill is an awful lot but, these days, if you keep them for a good proportion of their career, they'll make that back in bucket loads, never mind spades. Re Vidal.... Rumours abound that the Juve manager quit because of differences over the transfer of players..... Read in to that what you will but, managers don't usually quit over players coming in..!! redrus There's talk about Pogba leaving as well. Maybe Juve's owners are cashing in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Rodrigues and Kroos to Real. Pogba, possibly to Chelsea. Will be an excellent signing, I was very sad and annoyed to see him leave United, far more than I was to see Morrison leave. Vidal to United. (I reckon) redrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 United tie up another massive sponsorship, this time with Japanese noodlecar maker Nissin...... http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2014/Jul/Nissin-sponsorship-press-release.aspx?newsid=47D256AA-EFF9-4B09-ABD3-DFA63F4AC028 redrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 United tie up another massive sponsorship, this time with Japanese noodlecar maker Nissin...... http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2014/Jul/Nissin-sponsorship-press-release.aspx?newsid=47D256AA-EFF9-4B09-ABD3-DFA63F4AC028 redrus Looking forward to the adverts. And it might put a complicated spin on Merchandise United's match day catering. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwf2SBWa5o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Old Trafford sells hot dogs and warm Budweiser....not the tasty Czech variety neither. Just an update for the Croydon faithful who have never been there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 United tie up another massive sponsorship, this time with Japanese noodlecar maker Nissin...... http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2014/Jul/Nissin-sponsorship-press-release.aspx?newsid=47D256AA-EFF9-4B09-ABD3-DFA63F4AC028 redrus Looking forward to the adverts. And it might put a complicated spin on Merchandise United's match day catering. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwf2SBWa5o Haha, sounds like they're saying "Rovers" in an Indian accent.... redrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Old Trafford sells hot dogs and warm Budweiser....not the tasty Czech variety neither. Just an update for the Croydon faithful who have never been there! Boooo, Hissss, Booooooo....... You are like a bloody pantomime villain, ya cheesy old joke specialist... redrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Old Trafford sells hot dogs and warm Budweiser....not the tasty Czech variety neither. Just an update for the Croydon faithful who have never been there! Boooo, Hissss, Booooooo....... You are like a bloody pantomime villain, ya cheesy old joke specialist... redrus They really do serve that redrus....and the beer was warm I swear it....maybe the Stretford end has pies and proper beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Old Trafford sells hot dogs and warm Budweiser....not the tasty Czech variety neither. Just an update for the Croydon faithful who have never been there! Boooo, Hissss, Booooooo....... You are like a bloody pantomime villain, ya cheesy old joke specialist... redrus They really do serve that redrus....and the beer was warm I swear it....maybe the Stretford end has pies and proper beer? No, no they're the same in The Stretty........ Although they do serve pies all over the ground too, I've never been in the away end. And, its normally Singha Beer mate. Anyway, you know I meant the Croyden bit sarcy b o l l o x... redrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) I bet 'Chevrolet' are well happy about 'Nissin'. Bit too bloody close for comfort. Could see 'em doing a Nike and a foxtrot oscar. Adidas know they are backing a Winner. Ten Year Winner too. It's not rocket science. Edited July 16, 2014 by P45Mustang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Aeroflot boys need to be on their toes too. Big Louis might prefer KLM. All right Mr Woodward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 I bet 'Chevrolet' are well happy about 'Nissin'. Bit too bloody close for comfort. Could see 'em doing a Nike and a foxtrot oscar You know 'Nissin', make noodles, not cars, right....? redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) I bet 'Chevrolet' are well happy about 'Nissin'. Bit too bloody close for comfort. Could see 'em doing a Nike and a foxtrot oscar You know 'Nissin', make noodles, not cars, right....? redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Er...yes rus. But the World works in a funny old way and there's nowt so queer as folks. ( Fair chance it will fck up the Chinese counterfeiters too. ) Edited July 16, 2014 by P45Mustang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Getting excited Russ ? Here's your braintrust. Looks like Van Gaal is working on a North Korean 'do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangrakBob Posted July 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Getting excited Russ ? Here's your braintrust. Looks like Van Gaal is working on a North Korean 'do.GAALBsrNiOTCMAAz0lv.jpg it's Swiss Toni Edited July 16, 2014 by BangrakBob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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