Islamist Militants Attack Nigerian Churches, Killing 6

[News_Editor]

Islamist militants attack Nigerian churches, killing 6 < br />

2012-06-11 09:44:53 GMT+7 (ICT)

JOS, NIGERIA (BNO NEWS) -- Islamist militants attacked two churches in central and northeastern Nigeria on Sunday morning, killing at least six people and injuring more than 50 others, officials said. The radical Islamic sect 'Boko Haram' is believed to be responsible.

The first attack took place at around 11 a.m. local time at the entrance of Lord's Chosen Church in Jos, a city in central Nigeria which divides a largely Muslim north and Christian south, when a suicide bomber drove his explosives-laden vehicle up to the front of the building.

Police said four people were killed in the attack while more than 50 others were injured, although some of the victims may have died in retaliatory violence by angry youths against Muslims. The Nigerian newspaper The Punch reported that the suicide bomber was forced to detonate his explosives after a group stopped him from reaching another church nearby.

In the second attack, which took place in the northeastern city of Biu in Borno state, a group of five gunmen opened fire at worshipers leaving a local church, killing at least two people and injuring several others. Some of those injured were said to be in a critical condition, according to local media reports.

A spokesman for the Boko Haram, which has been blamed for most of the region's terrorist attacks, claimed responsibility for both attacks. The group is seeking the imposition of an extremist stance of the Shariah law, which is a Muslim code of conduct. The group's name, in the local language of Hausa, roughly translates as 'Western religion is sacrilegious' or 'non-Islamic religion is a sin.'

In late April, at least 20 people were killed when a group of Boko Haram militants riding a vehicle and two motorcycles targeted two church services at Bayero University in Nigeria's northern city of Kano. The attackers hurled explosives and opened fire, killing scores of people and injuring others. It followed similar attacks against other Nigerian churches.

-- © BNO News All rights reserved 2012-06-11

[Colin Yai]

Hardly worth a mention really , but thanks anyway ,the brutal truth of the matter is the Islamic world as we know it is chock full of Christian persecution , the sad thing is should this happen in Christian Europe(for the time being) against the Muslims the politically correct handwringers would be screaming from the roof tops of racism and bigotry ,in this case hardly a whisper ,funny old world ain't it

Edited June 11, 2012 by Colin Yai

[folium]

Hardly worth a mention really , but thanks anyway ,the brutal truth of the matter is the Islamic world as we know it is chock full of Christian persecution , the sad thing is should this happen in Christian Europe(for the time being) against the Muslims the politically correct handwringers would be screaming from the roof tops of racism and bigotry ,in this case hardly a whisper ,funny old world ain't it

But comrade this terrorism is happening in Nigeria not Norway so comparisons are somewhat irrelevant.

Boko Haram are indeed a nasty little organization and are responsible for some 1500 killings since the group's revitalization in 2009.

What does seem to be hardly worth a mention is that civil wars and unrest in neighbouring Liberia, Sierra Leone and Cote d'Ivoire have killed at least a quarter of a million and possibly twice that, while in the DRC the continuing conflict has claimed over 5 million dead.

This does not make the killings in Nigeria any less worse but if you are going to get upset about horrors in Africa don't just focus on the muslim outrages.

[Colin Yai]

Hardly worth a mention really , but thanks anyway ,the brutal truth of the matter is the Islamic world as we know it is chock full of Christian persecution , the sad thing is should this happen in Christian Europe(for the time being) against the Muslims the politically correct handwringers would be screaming from the roof tops of racism and bigotry ,in this case hardly a whisper ,funny old world ain't it

But comrade this terrorism is happening in Nigeria not Norway so comparisons are somewhat irrelevant.

Boko Haram are indeed a nasty little organization and are responsible for some 1500 killings since the group's revitalization in 2009.

What does seem to be hardly worth a mention is that civil wars and unrest in neighbouring Liberia, Sierra Leone and Cote d'Ivoire have killed at least a quarter of a million and possibly twice that, while in the DRC the continuing conflict has claimed over 5 million dead.

This does not make the killings in Nigeria any less worse but if you are going to get upset about horrors in Africa don't just focus on the muslim outrages.

Sorry folium ,could you please explain ,these "wars" you write of and the killings ,are they of a purely religious nature or other reasons? ,and in closing are you aware as to just how many Islamic Countrys there are were Christians are openly persecuted ,murdered and their places of worship desecrated ? (and the topic is about the desecration of Christian places of worship and the murders in Nigeria ) so in this instance Nigeria is very small potato's Edited June 11, 2012 by Colin Yai

[folium]

Hardly worth a mention really , but thanks anyway ,the brutal truth of the matter is the Islamic world as we know it is chock full of Christian persecution , the sad thing is should this happen in Christian Europe(for the time being) against the Muslims the politically correct handwringers would be screaming from the roof tops of racism and bigotry ,in this case hardly a whisper ,funny old world ain't it

But comrade this terrorism is happening in Nigeria not Norway so comparisons are somewhat irrelevant.

Boko Haram are indeed a nasty little organization and are responsible for some 1500 killings since the group's revitalization in 2009.

What does seem to be hardly worth a mention is that civil wars and unrest in neighbouring Liberia, Sierra Leone and Cote d'Ivoire have killed at least a quarter of a million and possibly twice that, while in the DRC the continuing conflict has claimed over 5 million dead.

This does not make the killings in Nigeria any less worse but if you are going to get upset about horrors in Africa don't just focus on the muslim outrages.

Sorry folium ,could you please explain ,these "wars" you write of and the killings ,are they of a purely religious nature or other reasons? ,and in closing are you aware as to just how many Islamic Countrys there are were Christians are openly persecuted ,murdered and their places of worship desecrated ? (and the topic is about the desecration of Christian places of worship and the murders in Nigeria ) so in this instance Nigeria is very small potato's

From 2 days ago (119 views,1 reply): http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/561246-at-least-7-un-peacekeepers-killed-in-ivory-coast-ambush/

The conflicts in west and central Africa are the usual, sad mix of poor governance & corruption, ethnicity, nationalism, economic and political marginalisation, unhelpful colonial era boundaries and competition for resources (especially mineral wealth in SL and DRC). Religion barely gets a look in.

Neat summary about Boko Haram here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17790002

[koheesti]

Where can I send contributions for the Christian militia down there?

[folium]

Where can I send contributions for the Christian militia down there?

Would that be the Louiiana Unorganized Militia, the Indiana Sedentary Militia or perhaps the Alabama Shoals Badgers? (You couldn't make these up if you tried!!)

[koheesti]

Where can I send contributions for the Christian militia down there?

Would that be the Louiiana Unorganized Militia, the Indiana Sedentary Militia or perhaps the Alabama Shoals Badgers? (You couldn't make these up if you tried!!)

It's easier just to fund the local Christian militias in Africa. Plus they don't cost as much.

[Steely Dan]

Hardly worth a mention really , but thanks anyway ,the brutal truth of the matter is the Islamic world as we know it is chock full of Christian persecution , the sad thing is should this happen in Christian Europe(for the time being) against the Muslims the politically correct handwringers would be screaming from the roof tops of racism and bigotry ,in this case hardly a whisper ,funny old world ain't it

But comrade this terrorism is happening in Nigeria not Norway so comparisons are somewhat irrelevant.

Boko Haram are indeed a nasty little organization and are responsible for some 1500 killings since the group's revitalization in 2009.

What does seem to be hardly worth a mention is that civil wars and unrest in neighbouring Liberia, Sierra Leone and Cote d'Ivoire have killed at least a quarter of a million and possibly twice that, while in the DRC the continuing conflict has claimed over 5 million dead.

This does not make the killings in Nigeria any less worse but if you are going to get upset about horrors in Africa don't just focus on the muslim outrages.

Sorry folium ,could you please explain ,these "wars" you write of and the killings ,are they of a purely religious nature or other reasons? ,and in closing are you aware as to just how many Islamic Countrys there are were Christians are openly persecuted ,murdered and their places of worship desecrated ? (and the topic is about the desecration of Christian places of worship and the murders in Nigeria ) so in this instance Nigeria is very small potato's

From 2 days ago (119 views,1 reply): http://www.thaivisa....y-coast-ambush/

The conflicts in west and central Africa are the usual, sad mix of poor governance & corruption, ethnicity, nationalism, economic and political marginalisation, unhelpful colonial era boundaries and competition for resources (especially mineral wealth in SL and DRC). Religion barely gets a look in.

Neat summary about Boko Haram here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...africa-17790002

Religion barely gets a look in, except for churches blown to pieces on Christmas Eve and Easter, now there's a coincidence for you.

[folium]

I was talking of the conflicts outside Nigeria as requested by comrade Col. Even in northern Nigeria religion is not the only explanation but does act as a rallying cry albeit in a Muslim majority area of the country.

While attacks on the Christian minority grab the headlines the terrorists also target local government, police & schools as part of their separatist agenda.

[chooka]

Ah the religion of peace and tolerance.

[folium]

Ah the religion of peace and tolerance.

Not sure if any major religion can really boast much about peace and tolerance!

[Colin Yai]

Ah the religion of peace and tolerance.

Not sure if any major religion can really boast much about peace and tolerance!

There are now over 1,500 mosques in the UK ,are you aware of any instance were one has been burned to the ground and its occupants murdered ? Edited June 13, 2012 by Colin Yai

[folium]

Ah the religion of peace and tolerance.

Not sure if any major religion can really boast much about peace and tolerance!

There are now over 1,500 mosques in the UK ,are you aware of any instance were one has been burned to the ground and its occupants murdered ?

Historically the UK has a pretty shocking record (as do most European nations) of persecution of religious minorities, especially Catholics and Jews. One of the good things a more liberal society has brought the UK is a greater degree of tolerance backed up by legal sanctions to ensure that such persecution is no longer tolerated or escapes legal retribution.

Have a read of John Coffey's excellent book: Persecution and Toleration in Protestant England, 1558–1689.

Written pre Sept 2001, Coffey pointedly compares contemporary islamphobia with the English fears of the "Popish Plot" in the 17th century.

[Scott]

Ah the religion of peace and tolerance.

Not sure if any major religion can really boast much about peace and tolerance!

There are now over 1,500 mosques in the UK ,are you aware of any instance were one has been burned to the ground and its occupants murdered ?

(Honest question): Have any Churches in the UK been burned to the ground (by Muslims) or there occupants murdered?

I am really not having a go at you on this issue, but I am wondering if this has been the case in the UK.

[Colin Yai]

Ah the religion of peace and tolerance.

Not sure if any major religion can really boast much about peace and tolerance!

There are now over 1,500 mosques in the UK ,are you aware of any instance were one has been burned to the ground and its occupants murdered ?

Historically the UK has a pretty shocking record (as do most European nations) of persecution of religious minorities, especially Catholics and Jews. One of the good things a more liberal society has brought the UK is a greater degree of tolerance backed up by legal sanctions to ensure that such persecution is no longer tolerated or escapes legal retribution.

Have a read of John Coffey's excellent book: Persecution and Toleration in Protestant England, 1558–1689.

Written pre Sept 2001, Coffey pointedly compares contemporary islamphobia with the English fears of the "Popish Plot" in the 17th century.

Folium ,with respect can we please dispense with your favorite topic,HISTORY , what is happening in Nigeria is happening now , the question about the UK is in the present not the past, and concerns Islamic places of worship and the worshipers

[chooka]

Ah the religion of peace and tolerance.

Not sure if any major religion can really boast much about peace and tolerance!

There are now over 1,500 mosques in the UK ,are you aware of any instance were one has been burned to the ground and its occupants murdered ?

Historically the UK has a pretty shocking record (as do most European nations) of persecution of religious minorities, especially Catholics and Jews. One of the good things a more liberal society has brought the UK is a greater degree of tolerance backed up by legal sanctions to ensure that such persecution is no longer tolerated or escapes legal retribution.

Have a read of John Coffey's excellent book: Persecution and Toleration in Protestant England, 1558–1689.

Written pre Sept 2001, Coffey pointedly compares contemporary islamphobia with the English fears of the "Popish Plot" in the 17th century.

I agree all religions have a history of atrocities especially back in the 1500's as you say, however the vast majority of religions have evolved from the dark ages and no longer persecute and murder those of other faiths and burn thier places of worship in the name of thier gods.

[Colin Yai]

Ah the religion of peace and tolerance.

Not sure if any major religion can really boast much about peace and tolerance!

There are now over 1,500 mosques in the UK ,are you aware of any instance were one has been burned to the ground and its occupants murdered ?

(Honest question): Have any Churches in the UK been burned to the ground (by Muslims) or there occupants murdered?

I am really not having a go at you on this issue, but I am wondering if this has been the case in the UK.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4132776-no-go-areas-for-white-people-in- england Not as I am aware of but there are quite a few of these portrayed in the link and also Muslims posting flyers saying that certain area's are "Sharia" .

[Credo]

"I agree all religions have a history of atrocities especially back in the 1500's as you say, however the vast majority of religions have evolved from the dark ages and no longer persecute and murder those of other faiths and burn thier places of worship in the name of thier gods."

Unless you happen to be gay or belong to one of the other groups that they don't like.

Edited June 13, 2012 by Credo

[folium]

I agree all religions have a history of atrocities especially back in the 1500's as you say, however the vast majority of religions have evolved from the dark ages and no longer persecute and murder those of other faiths and burn thier places of worship in the name of thier gods.

It's more a function of place/country than religion per se. Religious persecution barely exists today in some countries but is sadly alive and well in parts of Africa, Asia and S.America and involves Buddhists, Christians, Hindus and yes, Muslims too.

You could compare religious persecution with the ill-treatment of indigenous people and how both vary considerably from one country to another in terms of scale, timing and levels of acceptance.

[Colin Yai]

http://atlasshrugs20...rced-in-uk.html just another instance of the religion of tolerance ,I just wonder what would happen to a guy posting flyers in Karachi saying "this is a Christian area " Edited June 13, 2012 by Colin Yai

[Colin Yai]

I agree all religions have a history of atrocities especially back in the 1500's as you say, however the vast majority of religions have evolved from the dark ages and no longer persecute and murder those of other faiths and burn thier places of worship in the name of thier gods.

It's more a function of place/country than religion per se. Religious persecution barely exists today in some countries but is sadly alive and well in parts of Africa, Asia and S.America and involves Buddhists, Christians, Hindus and yes, Muslims too.

You could compare religious persecution with the ill-treatment of indigenous people and how both vary considerably from one country to another in terms of scale, timing and levels of acceptance.

Still avoiding Answering my question in my post #13 I see

[folium]

I agree all religions have a history of atrocities especially back in the 1500's as you say, however the vast majority of religions have evolved from the dark ages and no longer persecute and murder those of other faiths and burn thier places of worship in the name of thier gods.

It's more a function of place/country than religion per se. Religious persecution barely exists today in some countries but is sadly alive and well in parts of Africa, Asia and S.America and involves Buddhists, Christians, Hindus and yes, Muslims too.

You could compare religious persecution with the ill-treatment of indigenous people and how both vary considerably from one country to another in terms of scale, timing and levels of acceptance.

Still avoiding Answering my question in my post #13 I see

From your exchanges with Scott it would seem that the score is:

Muslim church torchers 0; Christian mosque roasters 0.

An appropriately dull goalless (if not rather pointless) draw! Next?

PS you can't hide from history, it shapes much of what we are, who we are, where we are and how we are. While it may mean little to you, to millions history is not of the past but resonates loudly in the present, and ignorance of it can thus be hugely detrimental.

[Colin Yai]

I agree all religions have a history of atrocities especially back in the 1500's as you say, however the vast majority of religions have evolved from the dark ages and no longer persecute and murder those of other faiths and burn thier places of worship in the name of thier gods.

It's more a function of place/country than religion per se. Religious persecution barely exists today in some countries but is sadly alive and well in parts of Africa, Asia and S.America and involves Buddhists, Christians, Hindus and yes, Muslims too.

You could compare religious persecution with the ill-treatment of indigenous people and how both vary considerably from one country to another in terms of scale, timing and levels of acceptance.

Still avoiding Answering my question in my post #13 I see

From your exchanges with Scott it would seem that the score is:

Muslim church torchers 0; Christian mosque roasters 0.

An appropriately dull goalless (if not rather pointless) draw! Next?

PS you can't hide from history, it shapes much of what we are, who we are, where we are and how we are. While it may mean little to you, to millions history is not of the past but resonates loudly in the present, and ignorance of it can thus be hugely detrimental.

The difference is I answered Scott,s question, I'm still waiting for yours

[folium]

From your exchanges with Scott it would seem that the score is:

Muslim church torchers 0; Christian mosque roasters 0.

An appropriately dull goalless (if not rather pointless) draw! Next?

PS you can't hide from history, it shapes much of what we are, who we are, where we are and how we are. While it may mean little to you, to millions history is not of the past but resonates loudly in the present, and ignorance of it can thus be hugely detrimental.

The difference is I answered Scott,s question, I'm still waiting for yours

Try reading the scoreline.....

[sauvagecheri]

In order to understand this seemingly senseless struggle ,we need to understand what motivates Islam which is really what this is about ,

Islam is a radical, political fascistic communistic movement whose ultimate goal is the submission of the entire planet to what is called sharia law and what they call "A superior way of life" for humanity (Sic)

The goal is the same from the Sunni perpective (Arab world)and the Shia perspective (Iran),the directives are coming from the coran and other so called holy books which are considered as no less than the word of god ,the followers of the movement (Islamists) are executing the plan begun about 1400 years ago .

According to the coran etc...anything is fair game to achieve the objectives of Islam ,murders,lies,deception,suicide bombs mass killings pillaging ,taking of booty,taking of slaves ,as examplified and taught by the prophet himself, all these things are permitted(By Sharia Law) against the "Infidels".

Iran's nuclear ambitions are but one building block in the grand Islamic strategy which vies to conquer the West ,Europe ,the Americas and of course the rest of the planet ,Iran and Saudi Arabia have vasts ressources (Oil money) to further their aims .

One basic tenet of the "faith" "movement" is : Islam must dominate and not allow any "Unholy" infidel power to control it or dictate it anything they are really not interested in negotiating ,as they think we are caught between a rock an a hard place,and I dont think they are really afraid of a few billions deaths especially infidels if that is what it takes to accomplish the task .

Any “Infidel” is fair game in his/her property and life ,that is what the good book says ,that’s what they follow ,no muslim will rise one finger to go against what another muslim does as long as he / she follows the coranic laws and rules ,which basically are : Do what you want with non-believers if you can do it and get away with it .

Once Iran succeed in building their bomb ,because without a doubt that's what they are doing ,it's anyone's guess as to what they'll do with it ,but i am afraid nothing good for us ! Maybe another thread ...I'd love to get some thoughts about that .

On one side Pakistan ,also with nuclear capabilities ,on the other Iran ,as of now Europe is being invaded by no less than 50 millions of muslims foot soldiers already ,the invasion of the US has started building up already as mega mosqus are being built at a frantic pace ,enough said by me anyone interested follow those links

Know your ennemy ! And do not underestimate it also ..

So far they are beating us(West) soundly just about everywhere ..

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com/the-course/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxA_OHOwbac&feature=relmfu

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-more-Muslim-immigration/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html

There is a lot more to learn about this fascinating subject

[Colin Yai]

A draw you say ,surely you write in jest ,the Title of this thread is "Islamist Militants Attack Nigerian Churches killing 6" any chance of producing "Christian Militants attack UK Mosque killing 6" any chance of finding an equivalent headline?

[folium]

A draw you say ,surely you write in jest ,the Title of this thread is "Islamist Militants Attack Nigerian Churches killing 6" any chance of producing "Christian Militants attack UK Mosque killing 6" any chance of finding an equivalent headline?

You were asking about attacks on religious buildings in the UK as was Scott....if you want to continue this let's do it via SMS as I'm sure it's boring the pants off everybody else!

[Colin Yai]

A draw you say ,surely you write in jest ,the Title of this thread is "Islamist Militants Attack Nigerian Churches killing 6" any chance of producing "Christian Militants attack UK Mosque killing 6" any chance of finding an equivalent headline?

You were asking about attacks on religious buildings in the UK as was Scott....if you want to continue this let's do it via SMS as I'm sure it's boring the pants off everybody else!

Nah Its so much more fun in an open forum after all that,s were it started Innit, and any way I've nowt to hide , Hey Great post in #26 whadya think? Edited June 13, 2012 by Colin Yai

[Colin Yai]

In order to understand this seemingly senseless struggle ,we need to understand what motivates Islam which is really what this is about ,

Islam is a radical, political fascistic communistic movement whose ultimate goal is the submission of the entire planet to what is called sharia law and what they call "A superior way of life" for humanity (Sic)

The goal is the same from the Sunni perpective (Arab world)and the Shia perspective (Iran),the directives are coming from the coran and other so called holy books which are considered as no less than the word of god ,the followers of the movement (Islamists) are executing the plan begun about 1400 years ago .

According to the coran etc...anything is fair game to achieve the objectives of Islam ,murders,lies,deception,suicide bombs mass killings pillaging ,taking of booty,taking of slaves ,as examplified and taught by the prophet himself, all these things are permitted(By Sharia Law) against the "Infidels".

Iran's nuclear ambitions are but one building block in the grand Islamic strategy which vies to conquer the West ,Europe ,the Americas and of course the rest of the planet ,Iran and Saudi Arabia have vasts ressources (Oil money) to further their aims .

One basic tenet of the "faith" "movement" is : Islam must dominate and not allow any "Unholy" infidel power to control it or dictate it anything they are really not interested in negotiating ,as they think we are caught between a rock an a hard place,and I dont think they are really afraid of a few billions deaths especially infidels if that is what it takes to accomplish the task .

Any “Infidel” is fair game in his/her property and life ,that is what the good book says ,that’s what they follow ,no muslim will rise one finger to go against what another muslim does as long as he / she follows the coranic laws and rules ,which basically are : Do what you want with non-believers if you can do it and get away with it .

Once Iran succeed in building their bomb ,because without a doubt that's what they are doing ,it's anyone's guess as to what they'll do with it ,but i am afraid nothing good for us ! Maybe another thread ...I'd love to get some thoughts about that .

On one side Pakistan ,also with nuclear capabilities ,on the other Iran ,as of now Europe is being invaded by no less than 50 millions of muslims foot soldiers already ,the invasion of the US has started building up already as mega mosqus are being built at a frantic pace ,enough said by me anyone interested follow those links

Know your ennemy ! And do not underestimate it also ..

So far they are beating us(West) soundly just about everywhere ..

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com/the-course/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxA_OHOwbac&feature=relmfu

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-more-Muslim-immigration/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html

There is a lot more to learn about this fascinating subject

Great post ,doubtless some will think you are something of an Anti Islamic bigot ,however let me make it quite plain no such thought enters my head .