binjalin Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 You seem to have a problem discerning what is a yellow and what is a democrat. they do too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I am confused. Isn't there a separation of powers? Why is the Court decided on legislative matters before they become a law? The country can be very confusing at times. And only the king is supposed to have the power to pardon convicted criminals. But this is Thailand where the legislature tries to retroactively change the laws and pardon fugitives, and the court tries to stop them from doing so. Not only confusing but dangerous. outrageous! elected officials trying to change laws? unbelievable! bring in the appointed elite immediately and stop this democratic nonsense!!! There is nothing democratic about trying to whitewash Thaksin, he's facing serious corruption charges involving his family, for example the Krisada Mahanakorn company's loans from Krung Thai Bank when Thaksin was PM. He needs all these investigations to be declared null and void. Pheua Thai are attempting to absolve Thaksin with the amnesty bill and install charter changes with no input from the Thai public. With Pheua Thai MPs behaving like this, it's no use to stand up politely and gently ask the House speaker if the Opposition can make a point, it's an emergency and outrage is the appropiate response. outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. good try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonableman Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. good try... good rebuttal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiOats Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. good try... Are you still spouting that argument? Could you please explain who are the 'elites' and how do you gauge them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. good try... Are you still spouting that argument? Could you please explain who are the 'elites' and how do you gauge them? In Cambodia it was anybody who had a job where you could sit down, or who wore glasses, or who could count to 20 without taking off their shoes, or................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. good try... Are you still spouting that argument? Could you please explain who are the 'elites' and how do you gauge them? In Cambodia it was anybody who had a job where you could sit down, or who wore glasses, or who could count to 20 without taking off their shoes, or................ In Thailand its anyone who can buy their own mass protest group, government or terrorist group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. good try... Are you still spouting that argument? Could you please explain who are the 'elites' and how do you gauge them? somethings cannot be discussed but if you live in Thailand and understand anything you will know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonableman Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 The Nouveaux Riche of Victorian England, by Lauren Edmonds Relation of The New Banking/Industrial Class to High Society As the middle class began to further divide, those who grew in wealth became known as a banking/industrial class. Along with their sudden economic prosperity there came a desire for social transformation- an aspiration for new aristocracy. They carried their traditional middle class values into prominence with their accumulation of wealth. They sought to achieve a merit oriented Society rather than social climbing, for their children's sake, into the existing one based solely on birth. This hindered the new class from ever attaining Aristocratic Social acceptance for their new wealth and deemed them the nouveaux riche. Despite obvious disapproval from the Aristocracy the nouveaux riche continued their economic ascent through "personal contact [which] was a crucial element in filling posts" (Loftus 5). This dependence upon others for mounting economic standing was contrary to the middle class value of independence. This industrial class was forced to rely upon the connections, potentially aristocratic, in order to succeed. Loftus explains that middle-class values were carved out in these attempts to define a society based on merit rather than aristocratic privilege. However, the importance of cultural capital and social networks to success in the period implies that the rise of the middle-classes in the Victorian period saw the replacement of one set of privileges with another (Loftus 4). However the Nouveaux Riche failed to fully assimilate into aristocratic society due to lack of pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. good try... Are you still spouting that argument? Could you please explain who are the 'elites' and how do you gauge them? somethings cannot be discussed but if you live in Thailand and understand anything you will know OMB, the hidden hand conspiracy, the armart, the sinothais, the Privy council, all red herrings. Its all about the convicted, fugitive criminal Thaksin trying to change Thai law and society to his personal and finacial advantage. Reading more than Amsterdams blog and you get a more rounded opinion. Edited June 14, 2012 by waza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 oh goodie "the Nation speaks! load of twaddle Yingluck has had no choice but they will win in the end The Red Flag "The people's flag is deepest red, It shrouded oft our martyred dead, And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold, Their hearts' blood dyed its ev'ry fold. Then raise the scarlet standard high. Within its shade we'll live and die, Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer, We'll keep the red flag flying here. etc etc, ad nauseum. " You take the flag, I'll take the pole, And ram the Red Flag Up your hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 "outrage is being expressed by the elite minority and they will fail" binjalin Do you mean Thaksin who is part of the elite minority is outraged and will fail? I concur with that. In the last election Pheua Thai won 15 million votes, the Democrats got 11 million. That is not an elite minority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 OMB, the hidden hand conspiracy, the armart, the sinothais, the Privy council, all red herrings. Its all about the convicted, fugitive criminal Thaksin trying to change Thai law and society to his personal and finacial advantage. Reading more than Amsterdams blog and you get a more rounded opinion. says Yoda; herrings be they may ... powerful they are... red are not they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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