brit1984 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 It is just the voice of experience and cynicism. I had three great marriages. I had three bad divorces. Now I think single is smarter. It just depends on where you are in the cycle. Maybe being single is smarter for you (not necessarily for everyone), but anyway you are not single. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules I'm a whore. My GF offered me a new house and a lazy boy recliner and a large screen TV with Satellite dish. What can you say? I can say you just proved that (contrary to your earlier hypothesis) being single is not necessarily smarter than being in a relationship. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 It is just the voice of experience and cynicism. I had three great marriages. I had three bad divorces. Now I think single is smarter. It just depends on where you are in the cycle. Maybe being single is smarter for you (not necessarily for everyone), but anyway you are not single. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules I'm a whore. My GF offered me a new house and a lazy boy recliner and a large screen TV with Satellite dish. What can you say? I can say you just proved that (contrary to your earlier hypothesis) being single is not necessarily smarter than being in a relationship. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules I always told my children not to drink and smoke too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 I meet my wife in BKK. After 3 years in BKK I had enough of the Big Mango and told my then GF (wife now) that I want to move to Pattaya. First she didn't like the idea at all but after a couple of visits she kind of got used to it and liked the beach scenes very much. We now live in our second house in the outskirts (Naklua) of Pattaya, have a lovely son and life is good. I don't think I could live in a small town, I like the buzz here in fun town and keep my Villy in the pants, if you don't respect and thrust each other, marriage is worthless. I forgot to mention that my wife speaks very good English so communication is not a problem. OP you could consider on-line dating. As for on line dating, I've tried that with varying degrees of success and have not ruled it out. I'm still active on 2 sites now because I like to keep my options open. Being faithful is no problem for me but it seems so many Thai women do think you are playing around especially if you live in Pattaya or go there for holidays. even in the small towns or villages the jungle drums seem to beat loudly if you go out for the night alone, then the phone rings at weird hours to make sure you are alone My perfect ideal would be to be here in Pattaya and have a good woman at my side and not one demanding sums of cash all the time but to be happy with what she has and what she is given. Maybe time will tell I do not think there is a woman on this planet who is happy with what she is given, you can give that dream up right away A man who has no dream is a man with no desire. Can I not keep a little bit of me dream? Pretty please !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phl Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I meet my wife in BKK. After 3 years in BKK I had enough of the Big Mango and told my then GF (wife now) that I want to move to Pattaya. First she didn't like the idea at all but after a couple of visits she kind of got used to it and liked the beach scenes very much. We now live in our second house in the outskirts (Naklua) of Pattaya, have a lovely son and life is good. I don't think I could live in a small town, I like the buzz here in fun town and keep my Villy in the pants, if you don't respect and thrust each other, marriage is worthless. I forgot to mention that my wife speaks very good English so communication is not a problem. OP you could consider on-line dating. As for on line dating, I've tried that with varying degrees of success and have not ruled it out. I'm still active on 2 sites now because I like to keep my options open. Being faithful is no problem for me but it seems so many Thai women do think you are playing around especially if you live in Pattaya or go there for holidays. even in the small towns or villages the jungle drums seem to beat loudly if you go out for the night alone, then the phone rings at weird hours to make sure you are alone My perfect ideal would be to be here in Pattaya and have a good woman at my side and not one demanding sums of cash all the time but to be happy with what she has and what she is given. Maybe time will tell I do not think there is a woman on this planet who is happy with what she is given, you can give that dream up right away A man who has no dream is a man with no desire. Can I not keep a little bit of me dream? Pretty please !! Alright....... but if you meet one, find out if she has a sister for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 It's a pity you have ruled out Bangkok, I do think there is more availabilty of the kind of girl your after here. I could probably ask around in the office for you, but would not want the ear ache if it went wrong Nice post mind and i think most people do miss having a SO in their life if they have been single for a while. I certainly miss many of the things you can do with an SO. I'm not particularly desperate but I do feel there is that something missing.and I think it was the nurses that really triggered it off with the way they were with me, the caring attitude and their general demeanour. I'll be off out for a beer and a chat with friends tonight. After replying to most posts since I got back I'm parched. yet that is it after we all go home to our beds and wake up in the morning to a huge space that is only good for sprawling in I know your feelings about the nurses. i suffered shoulder injury few years ago and was seeing a specialist at Bangkok Hospital in Bangkok. Not only all the nurses were super sexy, but also super nice and even somewhat "flirty" When i agreed to a surgery, i was also very excited(deep inside) about getting to know the nurses and have a perfect opportunity to ask one of them out as a thank you for taking care of me. Well that plan miserably failed, because when i woke up after the surgery i was surrounded by double my age, over weight nurses who were as rough as construction workers. I did go searching for the little angels, only they were no where to be found. After the full recovery, i returned to see the specialist every month, only to see that the sexy,sweet, flirty angels were no longer sweet or flirty. I guess their job was done, i did pay 500 000 baht for a surgery Sigh, such a wondrous dream to be dashed. I am hoping to find one or two when I go back for my X-rays on the 14th. I might take some goodies with me and wander around like a little lost soul until I find some pretty nurses. Maybe pay a visit to the ward where I was treated. Just be my luck those nurses will be on night shift!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 I'm not particularly desperate but I do feel there is that something missing.and I think it was the nurses that really triggered it off with the way they were with me, the caring attitude and their general demeanour. The Florence Nightingale Syndrome But it is a lovely feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 I place Thai girls/women/females into three categories. 1. The poor and the underclass’s whose priorities are to get rich quick and only view the farang as a walking bank account or seeking life long financial support for themselves and families. 2. The middle to upper class Thai girls/women/females who may consider a farang as a viable suitor, providing he is able to compete with her lavish lifestyle, provide and sustain her lavish lifestyle in the custom that she is used to or so desires, especially if she is a social climber. 3. Those that would never consider forming relationships with farang males even if they were the last men on Earth. These days I truly do believe that Thai women are no longer good viable propositions as girlfriends or wives, especially since over the years Thai people have become more affluent and the country has become extremely commercialised. The women’s expectations of a partner are higher than what they used to be, with similar doctrines that are almost comparable with the attitudes of Western women. Many Thai women are these days able to live completely independant lives with no need to take on board a permanment partner or can be extremely particular with whom they choose. As one poster has already mentioned, perhaps there are girls/women/females in other countries that are not so materialistic and money orientated that would make better and more loyal partners. Maybe when Burma opens its doors...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 I meet my wife in BKK. After 3 years in BKK I had enough of the Big Mango and told my then GF (wife now) that I want to move to Pattaya. First she didn't like the idea at all but after a couple of visits she kind of got used to it and liked the beach scenes very much. We now live in our second house in the outskirts (Naklua) of Pattaya, have a lovely son and life is good. I don't think I could live in a small town, I like the buzz here in fun town and keep my Villy in the pants, if you don't respect and thrust each other, marriage is worthless. I forgot to mention that my wife speaks very good English so communication is not a problem. OP you could consider on-line dating. As for on line dating, I've tried that with varying degrees of success and have not ruled it out. I'm still active on 2 sites now because I like to keep my options open. Being faithful is no problem for me but it seems so many Thai women do think you are playing around especially if you live in Pattaya or go there for holidays. even in the small towns or villages the jungle drums seem to beat loudly if you go out for the night alone, then the phone rings at weird hours to make sure you are alone My perfect ideal would be to be here in Pattaya and have a good woman at my side and not one demanding sums of cash all the time but to be happy with what she has and what she is given. Maybe time will tell I'd be careful with online dating. For one if you're on an English speaking site and not a Thai one then it's likely the girls are already targeting farang. Why would they target farang$$$? Also if she's 20 and looking for a man 50 years and older then alarms must be ringing. I'm not saying it can't happen but do you think a girl back home would do this? I would think that a good looking girl wont need to advertise on a website. You would probably see her when she's shopping, working, eating out etc. Some of the girls who work in the banks seem possible for example to turn out right. A nice girl with a good education, a career and a legitimate reason for crossing paths with you. You can find bad eggs everywhere but they are more likely to be in some places such as Pattaya than others and the reverse is true. I know of girls from Udon, Khon Kaen etc who have also been bad eggs. You can't go on location alone. Relationships are as much about luck and chance as anything else. You can help better the odds for a good outcome but that's it. Only time will tell in the end. Spend a good long time living with the girl to find out if she's Mrs Right. I agree in the main about English speaking websites. It can soon become apparent how good their English is as you talk to them more often. I'm always suspicious of a woman who can speak good English. The translator tools do not work well for Thai / English so you can see if that is what they are using. One thing I have discovered here is that I really am not into young women in their 20's. I find the 30+ far sexier and more attractive. I'll leave the babies to those who are into that sort of thing. Each to their own. By far the greatest number of Thai women I have met and got on really well with I have met in Thai bars / clubs in central Thailand after being a regular there for some time. The women did seem to make an approach more often if I was sat with Thai friends. Many making the approach got short shrift from these Thai friends who seemed to know who the bad apples were while I would still be weighing up their looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I place Thai girls/women/females into three categories. 1. The poor and the underclass’s whose priorities are to get rich quick and only view the farang as a walking bank account or seeking life long financial support for themselves and families. 2. The middle to upper class Thai girls/women/females who may consider a farang as a viable suitor, providing he is able to compete with her lavish lifestyle, provide and sustain her lavish lifestyle in the custom that she is used to or so desires, especially if she is a social climber. 3. Those that would never consider forming relationships with farang males even if they were the last men on Earth. These days I truly do believe that Thai women are no longer good viable propositions as girlfriends or wives, especially since over the years Thai people have become more affluent and the country has become extremely commercialised. The women’s expectations of a partner are higher than what they used to be, with similar doctrines that are almost comparable with the attitudes of Western women. Many Thai women are these days able to live completely independant lives with no need to take on board a permanment partner or can be extremely particular with whom they choose. As one poster has already mentioned, perhaps there are girls/women/females in other countries that are not so materialistic and money orientated that would make better and more loyal partners. Maybe when Burma opens its doors...... You do know there are a million Burmese women living and working in Thailand right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Many times you are out with a woman and she keeps asking if her, or her are beautiful so they can see what reaction you give. Worst moment was in the car with one g/f and I saw 3 really adorable ladies in their late teens / early twenties dressed in school uniforms and very short skirts and shapely legs. I could not help but look. Did I get some stick over that. Learn to lie. HER: "Do you think she is pretty", YOU: "who?" HER: "Are you looking at those three girls", YOU: "look at that pickup over there behind the schoolgirls, sorry darling what were you saying" Not correct. I do it like that: HER: Do you think she is pretty? ME: Yes! HER: She smiled at you! ME: Yes, I smiled too. HER: She is more pretty than me? ME: Check yourself! HER: YOU DON'T LOVE ME!! ME: I told you that already, sweetheart. Result: Great sex later on. Never let women believe they got you. Show them you have options. That is the best way to keep a relationship running well. I tell mine I love her, ( I do) she asks if I've been drinking. lol I like this... but have run out of likes Maybe a complaint to higher authority in forum support might help here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadingo Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 ... The same as when I am out on a night here in Pattaya, once they know I refuse to pay exorbitant prices they fade away. When a 39 year old is asking me for 2000 Baht + a bar fine, I laugh. What about the 19 year old asking for 2000 baht + bar fine? Once and only once because she was sooooooo gorgeous and very very sexy did I bar fine an under 20 and she cost 1500. One the whole give me an older woman (30+) any day. They are my thing. ( no drool icon available ) But for a 39 year old to ask 2K is her being very hopeful. No wonder she keeps saying she does not have a Farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommoPhysicist Posted July 6, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2012 ... The same as when I am out on a night here in Pattaya, once they know I refuse to pay exorbitant prices they fade away. When a 39 year old is asking me for 2000 Baht + a bar fine, I laugh. What about the 19 year old asking for 2000 baht + bar fine? Once and only once because she was sooooooo gorgeous and very very sexy did I bar fine an under 20 and she cost 1500. One the whole give me an older woman (30+) any day. They are my thing. ( no drool icon available ) But for a 39 year old to ask 2K is her being very hopeful. No wonder she keeps saying she does not have a Farang. I read this sort of post and understand why no respectable Thai lady would want to associate with a foreign guy who ever lived in Pattaya. The whole concept of 'bar fines' is just Ewwwww, and so is the thought of the sorts of guys who pay them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I read this sort of post and understand why no respectable Thai lady would want to associate with a foreign guy who ever lived in Pattaya. The whole concept of 'bar fines' is just Ewwwww, and so is the thought of the sorts of guys who pay them. "Ewwww?" Are you Paris Hilton??? What "sort" of guys pay bar fines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I read this sort of post and understand why no respectable Thai lady would want to associate with a foreign guy who ever lived in Pattaya. The whole concept of 'bar fines' is just Ewwwww, and so is the thought of the sorts of guys who pay them. "Ewwww?" Are you Paris Hilton??? What "sort" of guys pay bar fines? Charlie Sheen Eddie Murphy and a lady boy hooker Hugh Grant The Governor of NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phl Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I read this sort of post and understand why no respectable Thai lady would want to associate with a foreign guy who ever lived in Pattaya. The whole concept of 'bar fines' is just Ewwwww, and so is the thought of the sorts of guys who pay them. "Ewwww?" Are you Paris Hilton??? What "sort" of guys pay bar fines? Charlie Sheen Eddie Murphy and a lady boy hooker Hugh Grant The Governor of NY I am hurt you did not include me in that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I read this sort of post and understand why no respectable Thai lady would want to associate with a foreign guy who ever lived in Pattaya. The whole concept of 'bar fines' is just Ewwwww, and so is the thought of the sorts of guys who pay them. "Ewwww?" Are you Paris Hilton??? What "sort" of guys pay bar fines? Charlie Sheen Eddie Murphy and a lady boy hooker Hugh Grant The Governor of NY I am hurt you did not include me in that list Sorry I was searching for a list that included the adult male population of the planet earth but it takes a while to load. Load that's a computer term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxme Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Charlie Sheen Eddie Murphy and a lady boy hooker Hugh Grant The Governor of NY // That was only a few specimens from the U.S and the U.K... hardly the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phl Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Sorry I was searching for a list that included the adult male population of the planet earth but it takes a while to load. Load that's a computer term. are you saying i am not an adult or a male? PS. Just playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Charlie Sheen Eddie Murphy and a lady boy hooker Hugh Grant The Governor of NY // That was only a few specimens from the U.S and the U.K... hardly the world You want the Kung <deleted> guy too? It is a bid tawdry eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I read this sort of post and understand why no respectable Thai lady would want to associate with a foreign guy who ever lived in Pattaya. The whole concept of 'bar fines' is just Ewwwww, and so is the thought of the sorts of guys who pay them. These "respectable" Thai ladies don't seem to have a problem making foreign men pay an expensive dowry though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletchsmile Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 The PhD president of a large Western university married a porn star a while back. He didn't know it for 20 years. Those Western men aren't too smart when it comes to women. Could be he was just a smart guy who knew how to keep a secret and a low profile while onto a good thing, and "allegedly" didn't know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 The PhD president of a large Western university married a porn star a while back. He didn't know it for 20 years. Those Western men aren't too smart when it comes to women. Could be he was just a smart guy who knew how to keep a secret and a low profile while onto a good thing, and "allegedly" didn't know it No when he found out it was a nasty divorce big scandal in a small town in Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 ... The same as when I am out on a night here in Pattaya, once they know I refuse to pay exorbitant prices they fade away. When a 39 year old is asking me for 2000 Baht + a bar fine, I laugh. What about the 19 year old asking for 2000 baht + bar fine? Once and only once because she was sooooooo gorgeous and very very sexy did I bar fine an under 20 and she cost 1500. One the whole give me an older woman (30+) any day. They are my thing. ( no drool icon available ) But for a 39 year old to ask 2K is her being very hopeful. No wonder she keeps saying she does not have a Farang. I read this sort of post and understand why no respectable Thai lady would want to associate with a foreign guy who ever lived in Pattaya. The whole concept of 'bar fines' is just Ewwwww, and so is the thought of the sorts of guys who pay them. Come on Tommo.... you forgot the time that you almost paid a bar fine but after all that bell-ringing, you barely had enough cash to pay for the drinks. Safe! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Dude, You seem to me to be having a bit of a crisis over nothing. If you think a girl is incapable of showing or having real emotions just because she works in a bar, then it says more about you than it does them. My advice would be to maybe try being a Cheap Charlie fr a while and see which birds stick around. Heavy drinker, I think you have been doing too much heavy drinking, It's very simple. Do you want a girl who wants you for you? (I believe there are many decent woman who live in Pattaya) or one who only wants the business over and done with, get your money, so she can move on to the next man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Do you want a girl who wants you for you? They are pretty hard to get rid of without feeling guilty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 No one ever seems to address the topic of women who pay for sex. I believe there are certain Carribean islands, African countries and even Egypt where middle aged single (or not) women go purely to get their rocks off. Or even if some elderly, wealthy socialite/film star etc has a kept toy boy, the response from women is usually "good luck to her, she can afford it". If a rich guy has a pretty young thing, it's "she's only with him for his money". There is a real double standard amongst women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Do you want a girl who wants you for you? They are pretty hard to get rid of without feeling guilty. I've got one and very happy, she has her money and I have mine, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 ...we get a bad rap...truth told...we are loving, romantic....and want the 'fairy tale' setup as much as our Western counterparts... ...the 'sickness' here, is....this is why we will be taken advantage of.....a 'smile'....a 'good time'.....bla,bla,bla.... (No spiritual, moral, human connection) And of course.... you pay.... If you 'have no money' see what it will get you............ (Used to be, you could meet a woman back home....and even if you both had little or no money...you could still 'get together'...'have a good time' ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinclapham Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 ...we get a bad rap...truth told...we are loving, romantic....and want the 'fairy tale' setup as much as our Western counterparts... ...the 'sickness' here, is....this is why we will be taken advantage of.....a 'smile'....a 'good time'.....bla,bla,bla.... (No spiritual, moral, human connection) And of course.... you pay.... If you 'have no money' see what it will get you............ (Used to be, you could meet a woman back home....and even if you both had little or no money...you could still 'get together'...'have a good time' ...) Ah the days of sharing a bowl of macaroni cheese, huddled around a parrafin stove, drawing hearts on the window condensation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 ...we get a bad rap...truth told...we are loving, romantic....and want the 'fairy tale' setup as much as our Western counterparts... ...the 'sickness' here, is....this is why we will be taken advantage of.....a 'smile'....a 'good time'.....bla,bla,bla.... (No spiritual, moral, human connection) And of course.... you pay.... If you 'have no money' see what it will get you............ (Used to be, you could meet a woman back home....and even if you both had little or no money...you could still 'get together'...'have a good time' ...) Ah the days of sharing a bowl of macaroni cheese, huddled around a parrafin stove, drawing hearts on the window condensation Yeah, nothing like young love. I don't get that feeling anymore, but then I don't get the heartbreaks either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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