Most Stable Of The Newest High Speed Connections

[rounder8]

I've had multiple ADSL setups in Thailand. At best they were ok with maybe a couple disconnections a week. Some of the setups had frequent disconnections daily. I've had TRUE and TOT on 2009 in Sukhumvit soi 26 dual WAN setup. It was decent but still got really slow/unreliable at times. I've got True ADSL on 2009-2010 in Sukhumvit soi 18 and it was pretty decent with few disconnects ( maybe a couple of them every week, nothing serious or no long cuts). On 2010-2011 I had dual WAN True + 3BB ADSL in Charoen Krung road (near the southern end) and it was very bad with frequent daily disconnections and slowdowns.

I'm planning to rent a new apartment with one condition only. I need the best possible (most stable, speed is not important really) internet connection available. What kind of setups or technologies do you suggest? It seems you need to be very lucky to get a good ADSL connection in Bangkok. True has come up with DOCSIS connections and CAT seems to have some FTTx connections available. Are those more stable than ADSL? Which area in Bangkok is good for internet connectivity?

[Darrel]

Cable and fibre should both be more stable and reliable than ADSL. Which isn't to say that they will never break down, of course.

[rounder8]

  On 7/8/2012 at 4:33 PM, Darrel said:

Cable and fibre should both be more stable and reliable than ADSL. Which isn't to say that they will never break down, of course.

Thanks for your reply Darrel

Do you have opinion which one is more reliable, cable or fibre?

[Darrel]

I doubt there would be much in it in practice. Both should be very reliable.

[lomatopo]

What kinds of data rates are you looking for?

Based on all the threads/responses I've read here, and there have been quite a few, people seem quite satisfied with the stability and reliability of True Online's DOCSIS solution - this is the one I'd go for. Further it may be easier to source on more locales than any FTTx solutions.

The DSL solutions, other than perhaps the somewhat limited VDSL one, will have limited upload capabilities and typically lower download speeds, location dependent. Further the DOCSIS installs usually use new(er) infrastructure and are less prone to issues one encounters with DSL. Finally the DOCSIS offers may give slightly better price/performance characteristics?

[arkom]

  On 7/9/2012 at 1:36 AM, lomatopo said:

What kinds of data rates are you looking for?

Based on all the threads/responses I've read here, and there have been quite a few, people seem quite satisfied with the stability and reliability of True Online's DOCSIS solution - this is the one I'd go for. Further it may be easier to source on more locales than any FTTx solutions.

The DSL solutions, other than perhaps the somewhat limited VDSL one, will have limited upload capabilities and typically lower download speeds, location dependent. Further the DOCSIS installs usually use new(er) infrastructure and are less prone to issues one encounters with DSL. Finally the DOCSIS offers may give slightly better price/performance characteristics?

I would agree, I know a couple people how have the True cable internet and are happy with it and tell me it is much faster and has less down time than ADSL.

[Pib]

I live in western Bangkok and have had TrueOnline DOCSIS/cable 20Mb/2Mb plan for 13 months....been 99.9% reliable and good, steady international speed...and no problem in getting 20Mb to most any server in Thailand. Much, much better than the TOT 6MB ADSL service I had before, both in reliability and speed. But getting good/reliable internet in Thailand is a combination of Location, Location, Location and Luck of the Draw. Seems I see I lot of complaints from folks who live in central Bangkok...probably due to so many users on local circuits and poorly maintained phone/ADSL lines.

[rounder8]

I'm suprised many of you are satisfied with DOCSIS connections in Thailand. I've been asking people in Facebook and I've got two negative responses. One friend of mine just installed DOCSIS and according to her words it's very unreliable. Another one had DOCSIS installed in university and it was very reliable in general (maybe due to many students using same connection).

  On 7/9/2012 at 1:42 PM, Pib said:

But getting good/reliable internet in Thailand is a combination of Location, Location, Location and Luck of the Draw

Indeed I agree 100%.

How can one maximize his chances to get a stable connection? I would assume picking an apartment close to "hub" where optical fibre is connected will help. Afaik, optical fibre tends to either work 100% reliable or not work at all whereas copper/coaxial connections can work sometimes and sometimes they don't depending on the quality of the installation and inference etc.

This leads me to think that minimizing the length of non-optical wires will make it more likely that one will have a stable connection. This would logically mean FTTH connection should be optimal choice for me. Am I getting it right?

[rounder8]

  On 7/9/2012 at 1:36 AM, lomatopo said:

What kinds of data rates are you looking for?

Based on all the threads/responses I've read here, and there have been quite a few, people seem quite satisfied with the stability and reliability of True Online's DOCSIS solution - this is the one I'd go for. Further it may be easier to source on more locales than any FTTx solutions.

The DSL solutions, other than perhaps the somewhat limited VDSL one, will have limited upload capabilities and typically lower download speeds, location dependent. Further the DOCSIS installs usually use new(er) infrastructure and are less prone to issues one encounters with DSL. Finally the DOCSIS offers may give slightly better price/performance characteristics?

I'm not too worried about data rates. 10mbit down and 3mbit up is quite enough for me. Only thing that concerns me is stability of the connection. I cannot tolerate downtimes or cuts.

[Pib]

Deleted...double post of below post.

[Pib]

  On 7/9/2012 at 2:38 PM, rounder8 said:

I'm not too worried about data rates. 10mbit down and 3mbit up is quite enough for me. Only thing that concerns me is stability of the connection. I cannot tolerate downtimes or cuts.

Ain't no 100% reliable internet plans anywhere on Earth...sometimes the system needs to be taken down very briefly or for hours for some maintenance...sometimes a truck will knock a pole down...a backhoe dig into a line, a lightning strike vaporizes part of the line, or just some kid swinging on the low hanging line takes a connecton down.

[rounder8]

  On 7/9/2012 at 2:43 PM, Pib said:

  On 7/9/2012 at 2:38 PM, rounder8 said:

I'm not too worried about data rates. 10mbit down and 3mbit up is quite enough for me. Only thing that concerns me is stability of the connection. I cannot tolerate downtimes or cuts.

Ain't no 100% reliable internet plans anywhere on Earth...sometimes the system needs to be taken down very briefly or for hours for some maintenance...sometimes a truck will knock a pole down...a backhoe dig into a line, a lightning strike vaporizes part of the line, or just some kid swinging on the low hanging line takes a connecton down.

That's right. These events don't explain the misbehavior of thai internet connections in general however. It seems you have got a very nice connection there..

[Pib]

  On 7/9/2012 at 3:39 PM, rounder8 said:

  On 7/9/2012 at 2:43 PM, Pib said:

  On 7/9/2012 at 2:38 PM, rounder8 said:

I'm not too worried about data rates. 10mbit down and 3mbit up is quite enough for me. Only thing that concerns me is stability of the connection. I cannot tolerate downtimes or cuts.

Ain't no 100% reliable internet plans anywhere on Earth...sometimes the system needs to be taken down very briefly or for hours for some maintenance...sometimes a truck will knock a pole down...a backhoe dig into a line, a lightning strike vaporizes part of the line, or just some kid swinging on the low hanging line takes a connecton down.

That's right. These events don't explain the misbehavior of thai internet connections in general however. It seems you have got a very nice connection there..

I think the bulk of the misbehaviour is the lines hanging like spagetti on poles, trees, or just laying on the ground...and the equipment they connect to such as junction boxes being poorly protected from the harsh tropical environment,people ,critters, etc. Oh yea, probably need to through in little-to-no-preventive maintenance, just warping connections with PVC tape which still allows water to reach the connection and corrode it, etc...etc...etc.

Yea, I have a good connection. True installed the cable TV and internet trunk line in my western Bangkok moobaan mid last year. I live in a large moobaan of around 750 single family homes so maybe with my connection being relatively new and not living in a high population area compared to central Bangkok with the highrise condo's and soi's packed full of people with their internet connections makes my local internet circuit less loaded down.

[lomatopo]

  On 7/9/2012 at 2:38 PM, rounder8 said:

I'm not too worried about data rates. 10mbit down and 3mbit up is quite enough for me. Only thing that concerns me is stability of the connection. I cannot tolerate downtimes or cuts.

Your upload rate requirement of 3 Mbps would seem to eliminate DSL as an option as it has a 1 Mbps upload limit on the consumer grade offers. (The VDSL deployments seem limited to just a few buildings.) You may have to utilize dual WAN implementations as you have in the past.

There is a True Online DOCSIS offer of 20/2 for 1,299 baht/mo. and a 50/5 for 2,799baht/mo.

http://www3.truecorp...packagedetail/6

You can search and read some of the threads here to get a feel for reliability and stability. I did just search and read some True DOCSIS threads and there have been a few complaints recently re: outages, but my sense still is that it (True Online DOCSIS) offers the most reliable connection, based on user experiences documented here and on some Thai forums.