Thaksin's US Visa Not Part Of Deal Over U-Tapao: FM Surapong

[Ferangled]

The Dems seem intent on making Thaksin the centre of every single issue that the Thai government face.

The opposition seem so obsessed by the man that he is continually made pivotal to every decision in Thailand. By effectively blocking the NASA request and making this into yet another "Thaksin topic", the Dems are making waves while seemingly having little comprehension as to the ripples these will cause.

While the petty political bickering remains internal to Thailand, it remains of little concern to the real powers that be but when it starts impacting on them and their plans, we'll see where the real loyalties lie and quite how much clout can be used to force their will if required.

On the one hand you have a corrupt but willing bed fellow with close ties to the elected PM of Thailand, on the other a corrupt but unwilling bed fellow, who doesn't seem to know their place on the world stage and is showing dangerous leanings towards a rival power... Thai politicians would do well to study history before they tear this country apart.

[saltandpepper]

The Dems seem intent on making Thaksin the centre of every single issue that the Thai government face.

The opposition seem so obsessed by the man that he is continually made pivotal to every decision in Thailand. By effectively blocking the NASA request and making this into yet another "Thaksin topic", the Dems are making waves while seemingly having little comprehension as to the ripples these will cause.

While the petty political bickering remains internal to Thailand, it remains of little concern to the real powers that be but when it starts impacting on them and their plans, we'll see where the real loyalties lie and quite how much clout can be used to force their will if required.

On the one hand you have a corrupt but willing bed fellow with close ties to the elected PM of Thailand, on the other a corrupt but unwilling bed fellow, who doesn't seem to know their place on the world stage and is showing dangerous leanings towards a rival power... Thai politicians would do well to study history before they tear this country apart.

Can you please state one matter that is NOT related to Thaksin with the current government? Just one!

[h90]

The Dems seem intent on making Thaksin the centre of every single issue that the Thai government face.

The opposition seem so obsessed by the man that he is continually made pivotal to every decision in Thailand. By effectively blocking the NASA request and making this into yet another "Thaksin topic", the Dems are making waves while seemingly having little comprehension as to the ripples these will cause.

While the petty political bickering remains internal to Thailand, it remains of little concern to the real powers that be but when it starts impacting on them and their plans, we'll see where the real loyalties lie and quite how much clout can be used to force their will if required.

On the one hand you have a corrupt but willing bed fellow with close ties to the elected PM of Thailand, on the other a corrupt but unwilling bed fellow, who doesn't seem to know their place on the world stage and is showing dangerous leanings towards a rival power... Thai politicians would do well to study history before they tear this country apart.

Can you please state one matter that is NOT related to Thaksin with the current government? Just one!

When the cronies visited him in Lao and Cambodia, they spoke about him and addressed him as Prime Minister. Fully knowing that he is the real PM.

[h90]

Taxin is part of the Elite, this was confirmed when he was allowed to give a speech at the CFR just as the coupe was about to take place.

He is the man for SE Asia under the One Government plan...this is why he always makes the El Diablo hand gesture ....people like this are the curse of the World and obviously his soul cost a pretty penny but what has he actually got apart from living in desert .....and the promise of eternal wealth

Dysfunctional kids, despicable morals , despotic tendencies, disturbing ideals and a dismembered wife.

Dismembered wife?? They separated so the court can't take the money from her. She is fully involved in the political decisions and decided on several ministers. As well her brother was made the police boss, so they can suppress any democracy movements.

[Ferangled]

The Dems seem intent on making Thaksin the centre of every single issue that the Thai government face.

The opposition seem so obsessed by the man that he is continually made pivotal to every decision in Thailand. By effectively blocking the NASA request and making this into yet another "Thaksin topic", the Dems are making waves while seemingly having little comprehension as to the ripples these will cause.

While the petty political bickering remains internal to Thailand, it remains of little concern to the real powers that be but when it starts impacting on them and their plans, we'll see where the real loyalties lie and quite how much clout can be used to force their will if required.

On the one hand you have a corrupt but willing bed fellow with close ties to the elected PM of Thailand, on the other a corrupt but unwilling bed fellow, who doesn't seem to know their place on the world stage and is showing dangerous leanings towards a rival power... Thai politicians would do well to study history before they tear this country apart.

Can you please state one matter that is NOT related to Thaksin with the current government? Just one!

Errr... The use of U-Tapao... that's kind of the point!

It had absolutely nothing to do with Thaksin but the Dems made it into another Thaksin topic. There are literally hundreds of other issues relating to Thai politics that Thaksin is not pivotal to.

Both those in power and the opposition should be focused on a whole lot more than Thaksin, whether or not he's pulling the strings and whether or not he will return to Thailand, either as a free man or to face his sentence.

[Ferangled]

The Dems seem intent on making Thaksin the centre of every single issue that the Thai government face.

The opposition seem so obsessed by the man that he is continually made pivotal to every decision in Thailand. By effectively blocking the NASA request and making this into yet another "Thaksin topic", the Dems are making waves while seemingly having little comprehension as to the ripples these will cause.

While the petty political bickering remains internal to Thailand, it remains of little concern to the real powers that be but when it starts impacting on them and their plans, we'll see where the real loyalties lie and quite how much clout can be used to force their will if required.

On the one hand you have a corrupt but willing bed fellow with close ties to the elected PM of Thailand, on the other a corrupt but unwilling bed fellow, who doesn't seem to know their place on the world stage and is showing dangerous leanings towards a rival power... Thai politicians would do well to study history before they tear this country apart.

Can you please state one matter that is NOT related to Thaksin with the current government? Just one!

When the cronies visited him in Lao and Cambodia, they spoke about him and addressed him as Prime Minister. Fully knowing that he is the real PM.

So how does blocking the US use of U Tapao help change that exactly?!

I know, we'll piss off the world's largest superpower, give them more reason to believe that Thaksin represents the best ally to them and less reason to believe that they'll ever get cooperation from the Dems... Way to stick it to the US! History has shown us what a great idea that is...

[ttelise]

The Dems seem intent on making Thaksin the centre of every single issue that the Thai government face.

The opposition seem so obsessed by the man that he is continually made pivotal to every decision in Thailand. By effectively blocking the NASA request and making this into yet another "Thaksin topic", the Dems are making waves while seemingly having little comprehension as to the ripples these will cause.

While the petty political bickering remains internal to Thailand, it remains of little concern to the real powers that be but when it starts impacting on them and their plans, we'll see where the real loyalties lie and quite how much clout can be used to force their will if required.

On the one hand you have a corrupt but willing bed fellow with close ties to the elected PM of Thailand, on the other a corrupt but unwilling bed fellow, who doesn't seem to know their place on the world stage and is showing dangerous leanings towards a rival power... Thai politicians would do well to study history before they tear this country apart.

Can you please state one matter that is NOT related to Thaksin with the current government? Just one!

When the cronies visited him in Lao and Cambodia, they spoke about him and addressed him as Prime Minister. Fully knowing that he is the real PM.

Many people in US still refer to former Presidents as Mr. President. Just an act of deference, no more no less.

[h90]

So how does blocking the US use of U Tapao help change that exactly?!

I know, we'll piss off the world's largest superpower, give them more reason to believe that Thaksin represents the best ally to them and less reason to believe that they'll ever get cooperation from the Dems... Way to stick it to the US! History has shown us what a great idea that is...

It is a mater of morale. You don't help a country starting murdering people.

But I doubt morale was ever a point in recent Thai history (Vietnam war, supporting Pol Pot, etc etc).

China is closer to Thailand. They aren't a superpower like USA, but since a long time very friendly with Thailand.

Of course if you look at the Democrats:

Making Russia complete upset

Ignoring China that much that it is unpolite

being insulting to Myanmar

AND

not making the USA angry doesn't sound like a concept. Make the big and the small powers angry is surely wrong.

[h90]

The Dems seem intent on making Thaksin the centre of every single issue that the Thai government face.

The opposition seem so obsessed by the man that he is continually made pivotal to every decision in Thailand. By effectively blocking the NASA request and making this into yet another "Thaksin topic", the Dems are making waves while seemingly having little comprehension as to the ripples these will cause.

While the petty political bickering remains internal to Thailand, it remains of little concern to the real powers that be but when it starts impacting on them and their plans, we'll see where the real loyalties lie and quite how much clout can be used to force their will if required.

On the one hand you have a corrupt but willing bed fellow with close ties to the elected PM of Thailand, on the other a corrupt but unwilling bed fellow, who doesn't seem to know their place on the world stage and is showing dangerous leanings towards a rival power... Thai politicians would do well to study history before they tear this country apart.

Can you please state one matter that is NOT related to Thaksin with the current government? Just one!

When the cronies visited him in Lao and Cambodia, they spoke about him and addressed him as Prime Minister. Fully knowing that he is the real PM.

Many people in US still refer to former Presidents as Mr. President. Just an act of deference, no more no less.

Really? Strange. I don't think that is common in German (my mother language). If it is a language issue than I take that argument back.

[Ferangled]

So how does blocking the US use of U Tapao help change that exactly?!

I know, we'll piss off the world's largest superpower, give them more reason to believe that Thaksin represents the best ally to them and less reason to believe that they'll ever get cooperation from the Dems... Way to stick it to the US! History has shown us what a great idea that is...

It is a mater of morale. You don't help a country starting murdering people.

But I doubt morale was ever a point in recent Thai history (Vietnam war, supporting Pol Pot, etc etc).

China is closer to Thailand. They aren't a superpower like USA, but since a long time very friendly with Thailand.

Of course if you look at the Democrats:

Making Russia complete upset

Ignoring China that much that it is unpolite

being insulting to Myanmar

AND

not making the USA angry doesn't sound like a concept. Make the big and the small powers angry is surely wrong.

Sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Who's murdering people? Do you mean it's a matter of morality or are you talking about the morale of the Thai people... Either way I still don't understand your point in reference to the deliberate block of US request to use U Tapao or the issuing of a US visa to Thaksin...