3 Months Research And Finally Chose My New Car: Pajero Sport!

[anon210]

Hello to all posters. After a long and painstaking research, I finally made up my mind on a car. I paid yesterday the deposit for a Pajero Sport.

So let me take you through my research and my experience of the different dealerships. My advice is not to take a thai person with you, unless you want them to establish greng jai with them, and this might play against you. Be aware of their margins, push them and you will get the best deal.

In the beginning, my intention was to go for the smallest, cheapest car... And so I had set my sights on the Fiesta. I visited the Ford dealership at Rama IV. There I noticed that this car, although a lot of fun to see was really tight in the back seats and not really made for comfortable driving on the long haul (for passengers I mean). It was there that I noticed also the Ford Focus. The car made an immediate effect with regards to the back seats space and the nice interior. It was advertised at 849 K, but probably because I let my enthusiasm show, the dealer tried to skin me off, and left me only with a few mats and 6 K discount. Further, as I wanted to pay off in one or two years, he hit me with 5 % interest arguing that the finance company will not accept a loan at under 30 K in interest. So, you must be aware of that ploy, it is just the dealer trying to preserve his big commission.

Anyway, for a while I had my sights on the Focus. I enquired from the dealership at Silom (Ford Ek Silom), who made me an offer way more advantageous (10 K discount), and a few goodies, with normal interest rates for one and two years). But no way to get a test drive whatsoever. I will post the details of my deal if anyone requires it.

I also considered a Nissan Almera for a while. When I went at the dealership on Petchburi road, they served me a lot of rubbish: no goodies, no free insurance, and 3 months wait. I just walked away, without any interest even for a test drive. The car looks quite cheap inside, compared to the old Focus, BTW.

The Ford Ranger was useless, as there was a 4 months wait for the XLT, and 2013 for the Wildtrak. I went to Isuzu Petchburi... And managed to do a few meters within the dealership in a V-Cross. Very good feel, extremely responsive and light and sleek. But the dealership did not give me anything for free. Not even insurance. And availability was unsure. So, too bad, I walked away.

Next in line, I considered a Toyota Avanza. While being a dull and uninspiring car, I was thinking about the resale value, always due to be higher due to the Toyota brand... But after reading some reviews on the (lack of) safety of the Avanza, I rapidly cancelled it. Never even considered a Fortuner which is too ugly to my liking.

Next in line, was to get test drives to eliminate the cars. I tried the Ford Fiesta at Silom, but was very disappointed by its flimsy steering and lightness; not exactly what I was looking for, so cancelled it. But it is an excellent car for the city, and for ladies, I agree on that. As I was still set on the focus, next was test-driving it. No dealership had a model for test drive. I resorted in the end to writing to Ford HQ. They referred me to Ford Srinakarin...

I have to say that the response of Ford HQ and Srinakarin was excellent (within the day). Both K. Somsak and his son K. Boom have been very helpful and master English, so they really go the extra mile to serve their customers. Unfortunately, when I came there one Saturday, there was no focus to test drive. I however saw the Ford Escape;.. And it was a very nice feeling when sitting into it. I then asked to have a test drive, which they provided me on the following week.

The Escape felt very easy to handle, almost as a car, but at speed, you could feel the bulk and the motor pulling it. While the 4 yrs at 0 % were very tempting, unfortunately, the rapid depreciation of the car and the fact that a new escape was around the corner + the fact that the car is built in the Philippines;.. Well as many negative factors. They gave me the following list of goodies (for a 4WD XLT):

Free insurance

Free mats;

3M film;

Rain shields

handles in chromium (but I think this is standard with the XLT)

Scuff plates

Carpet

Frame for the plate;

Rust protection

Waxing

Rubber mat

3 yr roadside assistance

Waiver of 6.300 THB for Rot Tambien (registration)

0 % interest rate over up to 4 yrs.

I went to a Mitsubishi dealer further up on Srinakarin road, and in sitting in the Mitsubishi, while it felt more luxurious, it was a bit intimadating because of the size. I could not make an informed decision without a test drive, but they had no car available for this...

Here, the offer was of:

Free insurance

Free mats;

3M film;

Rain shields

Carpet

Frame for the plate;

Reversing camera

3 yr roadside assistance

1.99 % interest rate.

With that I tried to upgrade the Escape... And I obtained an aftermarket reversing camera, dvd set, gps etc... to replace the original radio unit, as also a side step. But they took away the film. All in all, I would have gone for it, as I really liked the car, but the resale value is also a factor high on my list as I am here as an expat.

With this in mind, it remained to see what was my impression with Mitsubishi would be reversed by the facts. Mitsu Suk. 71 gave me a test drive... Where I just moved the car front and reversed in their garage. Inconclusive as to how it feels to handle it in the traffic. Their offer, I will detail later.

I booked then a test drive at Mitsu Sathorn... One of the only ones to give me one; For starters, they had me show them my license... Then sign a waiver, declaring that I accepted not to drive sportingly, and accepted to repay all damages. I had second thoughts about signing such a paper, but after all, I crossed my fingers, and there we went. Anyway, this sign already showed me it was a tight dealership, and that I should not expect a lot from them. On my test drive, surprisingly, while bulky, the Pajero felt very easy to drive. There was also an added feeling of safety from being perched up there, and contrary to my initial fear, the visibility is not bad (you still see bikers). Finally, it being so big leads other drivers not to try and play "chicken" with you when maneuvering.

When back to the dealership... We started getting into the nitty gritty. Here the guy started with an interest rate of 2.65 % and baulked when told that I could get 1.99 % elsewhere. He would not give any free goodie... And served my thai friend, the habitual sob story of low commission. I decided to walk away... He was quite angry, from what I could see. And wanted even to take copy of the documents of the other dealerships. I refused cleanly and collected them back. But I could see the dealer seething. A good advice: do not buy in affluent areas. The dealers are probably less accustomed to haggling customers.

In the end I made my deal with Mitsu 71:

The deal:

Free insurance

Roadside assistance

film

mats + rubber mats

rain shields

handles in chromium

Waxing

antirust treatment

DVD set for the passengers

reversing camera

card which gives discount for parts (standard).

There we are. Delivery expected within 1 to 2 months (according to the dealer). I will fit in a dash cam as soon as I get it.. To be assured to get some form of testimony in case of accidents.

Some will tell me that it is quite a large range of cars from which I started... And I acknowledge it. I learned to drive in Thailand and got my license for the first time here, so was unsure what should be my choice for starters. I read a lot on Thai visa, made a lot of research on reviews, etc. Sometimes, too much information kills saturates you. To say it honestly: the Escape was the choice of the heart, and the Mitsu the choice of reason. I guess reason won over heart.

In the end, the bulkier, larger car won it... and not because I intend racing with it. Just to be safe on the road, as reading some articles about road safety ended convincing me that in the end the safety would be best assured in such a car, even if I generally drive very cautiously (too much so maybe, but I try to avoid unnecessary risks for others and myself). And finally, the resale value was also the determining part.

I will keep you updated on the rest of the process. Finance should still get in touch, and we will take it from there.

[arthurwait]

Congrats, but I have to disagree on not taking a Thai with you.

I went to Volvo last month with my Thai wife and brother in law she bought herself a V60 expected 2 months delivery and got 100,000B off the price and 5 years 0% credit. They offered me the same on a S40, but I'm probably going for a Civic instead.

I'll have to ask if she got anything else thrown in. I got told there's 5 years free servicing and parts, but I'm not sure if that didn't get lost in translation.

[bkkjames]

Thanks for the informative topic OP. Will be interested in the 'rest of the process' as you mention at the end.

[anon210]

Congrats, but I have to disagree on not taking a Thai with you.

I went to Volvo last month with my Thai wife and brother in law she bought herself a V60 expected 2 months delivery and got 100,000B off the price and 5 years 0% credit. They offered me the same on a S40, but I'm probably going for a Civic instead.

I'll have to ask if she got anything else thrown in. I got told there's 5 years free servicing and parts, but I'm not sure if that didn't get lost in translation.

It boils down, I guess, to whether your specific Thai has a business fiber or not. Here my friend was just doing the translation, but not really negotiating on my behalf. I had to push over myself each time, without really having an ally on my side, which could make my arguments more offensive. On the whole, using one dealership against the other is really the best choice: upping the ante each time... Until you find one who pulls back. This being said, the one argument where the dealer was right: the cost of parts at Mitsubishi is certainly lower than at Ford (50 % less for an alternator, to take an example).

Regarding the finance and offers, you must distinguish between what comes from headquarters (often insurance and servicing plans or 0 % finance as with Ford), and what your dealer offers (mats, and the like). I guess it also depends on whether there is more or less demand. Some dealers like Isuzu or Nissan were totally unwilling to budge, either on finance cost or freebies (they even wanted to charge me the first class insurance!). It pays doing your homework before visiting the dealers and knowing exactly what is included or not in the HQ offers of the moment.

[transam]

Does worry me a bit that what ever one is buying that the seller wants to give away lots of stuff.

Always thought that top notch stuff, what ever it is, that people are fighting to get it, and the seller knows it.

[beano2274]

I drove the 5 door Fiesta (Ford on Chaengwattana), as the Op says it feels light when turning into corners and the view out of the rear window is not that good, I looked at the Focus as they have a great looking one in there.

Anyhow MIL bought herself a 4 door fiesta 1.5 Trendy, registered in my wife's name so as to get the 100,000 tax rebate on offer. She haggled a bit and got the skirts for the car and a few other things, at a small cost

When I get the list I will post the bits she got free and the bits she paid a bit more for.

I also liked the Ranger, but noticed that once they put the plastic protection in the back, there is a small difference in height of the tail gate and the sides, not flush in my opinion.

[guzzi850m2]

Thanks for that OP and the MPS are according to many the best value Thai SUV.

The MPS was/is also on my short list of cars to buy but in the end desired to order a WT 2.2 Ranger but don't know when we will get it.

We have the time to wait as out City 06 is still doing fine but I agree with you regarding more safety in a bigger vehicle, floods & pot holes so never a sedan for me again here in Thailand.

Sadly there are almost no freebies to be had on a WD Ranger 2.2 2WD but its app. 300 k bath less than a MPS which also was taken into consideration when ordering it and not the least important reason: my wife likes the rough look of a pick-up truck (me too), lol.

[anon210]

I noticed a few bits missing of my original post... I had also gone to Mazda (Suk. 65), and there I posed them clearly as alternate the Ford Focus and asked them to match the offer for a Mazda 3, 1.6 l. No discount there, but a few things like mats, etc, on the whole, not very convincing. However, those were the most ready to offer me a test drive, to bring the car at my office... I gave up on the car after reading of its consumption, and furthermore, I had moved by then my sights on a SUV.

Finally, for those interested, I had an offer from Ford Silom on the ranger XLT 4WD (no discount whatsoever):

1st class insurance (Ford HQ offer, so that was an inexisting "freebie"),

license plate frame

Rubber mat

fuel for 500 THB

Coating color (I guess that is anti-rust treatment or waxing)

Bedliner

Mind you, this offer was made upon calling the dealership and asking them to send me an offer by mail, which seems to testify to the fact that there is margin for pulling the dealers even without being around.

Conversely, when I asked Ford Silom to match or do better for the Ford Escape, they did not want to sell it to me at all... And were trying to orient me instead on the new Focus.

The Ranger was also high on my list, but the unavailability of an automatic version in 4WD and the slowness to get one also drove me off. Living in BKK in addition, a pickup is a bit unhandy and unseemly in urban traffic.

On the whole, the dealers are not very accustomed to people "shopping around" or comparing brands. That throws them off the wrong footing and establishes a position of strength for you in the negotiation.

Let me say once again, there is a famous thread on negotiating that has been very helpful... The one best advice: do not let your emotions take over. Be prepared to walk away from a bad deal, someone else will offer you better... And otherwise you can have the bad deal elsewhere.

[thailoht]

Let me say once again, there is a famous thread on negotiating that has been very helpful... The one best advice: do not let your emotions take over. Be prepared to walk away from a bad deal, someone else will offer you better... And otherwise you can have the bad deal elsewhere.

Kudos to OP for this informative thread!

.....but I agree with you regarding more safety in a bigger vehicle, floods & pot holes so never a sedan for me again here in Thailand.

Exactly!! I second that emotion!!

[eaustev]

Congratulations on ordering the car. We also went thru an exhaustive process before buying a PJS, also from Mitsu in Suk 71 where I found them quite helpful and informative and have also been great since delivering the car. They however also offered us the nonsense of driving a car within the dealership but when I refused that they offered me the manager's own car (4WD GT) which I took out for a while.

I had an Escape for about 9 years before the Mitsu and also had the latest model for about 4 months as a loaner. You are right that they are easy to drive around town and a nice size vehicle, but well underpowered with the 2.3 litre. My previous Escape was the 3 litre which was alot nicer but really they were a bit old inside in 2003 when that one was new, and not much has changed in all the models released since then. Having said that it was a good car for the time we had it but the new models really seem to lack any character and I think they have run out of excuses for not seriously updating them.

After we ordered out PJS from Suk 71 my wife stayed in touch with them (salesman named Ed) regularly and then they ended up bumping us well up the waiting list when somebody else cancelled. At that time there was nearlly a 3 month waiting list but we got ours in just over a month.

Good luck with it all. We have been very happy with ours.

[ripstanley]

Very good thread and research. Your white rego plates may take longer to obtain.

[eaustev]

With ours through the same dealer (Suk 71) delivery was early March and we received the white plates second week of June, so it does take a while.

[thaicbr]

The part about the Nissan Almera is a bit of a cheap shot IMHO.

ITS half the price of the PJS.

sent from my Wellcom A90+

[saltandpepper]

Good choice. Friends of mine have got one, and are more than pleased!

[2unique]

I drove the 5 door Fiesta (Ford on Chaengwattana), as the Op says it feels light when turning into corners and the view out of the rear window is not that good, I looked at the Focus as they have a great looking one in there.

Anyhow MIL bought herself a 4 door fiesta 1.5 Trendy, registered in my wife's name so as to get the 100,000 tax rebate on offer. She haggled a bit and got the skirts for the car and a few other things, at a small cost

When I get the list I will post the bits she got free and the bits she paid a bit more for.

I also liked the Ranger, but noticed that once they put the plastic protection in the back, there is a small difference in height of the tail gate and the sides, not flush in my opinion.

What did you pay for the Fiesta - still waiting (4 months later) for the Mazda 2 and now the Fiesta has a rebate qualifying 1.5 might be worth switching...

[anon210]

Update on the process: finance application submitted today... With the guy of SCB coming in at the dealer's shop.

Nothing much to say about it, except that the process went smoothly with all my documentation being available and straightforward (got a work permit, B visa, been here almost one year... so I guess should be quite straightforward).

We further checked with a technician the possibility of connecting a dash cam directly to the fuse box, but apparently this could void Mitsubishi's warranty (they would need to check before confirming). Anyway, the people at Suk. 71 always professional and helpful, despite some language barrier (the finance guy did not speak a word of English or almost). I demanded and obtained an owner manual in English.

The waiting period shot now up to 3 months... Possibly shorter, but I am skeptical, obviously. I guess the dealership did not order anything as yet (probably will await confirmation by finance, credit check etc before going ahead!)

I'll continue updating as it goes.

[nikster]

Good info...

I have a fortuner myself and its an awesome car - you should have test driven one at least, IMO. But I have to agree that the redesign is terrible, instead of improving an already not really great design, they made it worse. Those new rear lights only a mother could love... Mitsu exterior design is much better but I am a bit wary of their interior plastics, have not yet seen one that looked decent... they seem to really love silver painted plastics.... Ugh... Does mitsubishi offer a high end interior option?

[bkkjames]

Update on the process: finance application submitted today... With the guy of SCB coming in at the dealer's shop.

Nothing much to say about it, except that the process went smoothly with all my documentation being available and straightforward (got a work permit, B visa, been here almost one year... so I guess should be quite straightforward).

We further checked with a technician the possibility of connecting a dash cam directly to the fuse box, but apparently this could void Mitsubishi's warranty (they would need to check before confirming). Anyway, the people at Suk. 71 always professional and helpful, despite some language barrier (the finance guy did not speak a word of English or almost). I demanded and obtained an owner manual in English.

The waiting period shot now up to 3 months... Possibly shorter, but I am skeptical, obviously. I guess the dealership did not order anything as yet (probably will await confirmation by finance, credit check etc before going ahead!)

I'll continue updating as it goes.

thanks for the info, i too will soon be your position. what kind of deposit did you have to put down to order it and what kind of financing terms are you getting - 20% down as example?

[anon210]

Good info...

I have a fortuner myself and its an awesome car - you should have test driven one at least, IMO. But I have to agree that the redesign is terrible, instead of improving an already not really great design, they made it worse. Those new rear lights only a mother could love... Mitsu exterior design is much better but I am a bit wary of their interior plastics, have not yet seen one that looked decent... they seem to really love silver painted plastics.... Ugh... Does mitsubishi offer a high end interior option?

I have considered if I should not go with Toyota for a while... but the premium in price is not justified IMHO.

Regarding "high-end interiors", not sure a Fortuner would satisfy that definition.

However an update.... Thursday got a call from the dealership telling me that a black Mitsubishi 2wd was available immediately. I asked for a new quote... It seems dealerships are reluctant to sell 4wd models...

re. the issue of deposits and minimum dp... The dp is generally of 25 pc with Ford going down to 20 on the Escape. My conditions were of 1.99 % interest over 2 yrs. The dealerships like longer finance periods...

Deposit required was of 5 k.

Some dealerships will try to impose higher dp... Tell them X or Y gives you 25 %... And they will calm down. Otherwise, just walk out of there, others will give you a better deal.

edit: my situation is a bit different as I an here on a b visa and have a work permit. So I can claim treatment on par with a Thai, I guess. Once you get a good offer... push on with other dealers based on this offer.

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Edited August 11, 2012 by freemindxs

[eaustev]

However an update.... Thursday got a call from the dealership telling me that a black Mitsubishi 2wd was available immediately. I asked for a new quote... It seems dealerships are reluctant to sell 4wd models...

I missed that in the original post but were you waiting on the 4WD model? Definitely try the 2WD as I tried both and found the 2WD a noticebly better drive, and you also avoid the annoyance of the transfer case shifter trying to vibrate it's way through your thigh.

[anon210]

However an update.... Thursday got a call from the dealership telling me that a black Mitsubishi 2wd was available immediately. I asked for a new quote... It seems dealerships are reluctant to sell 4wd models...

I missed that in the original post but were you waiting on the 4WD model? Definitely try the 2WD as I tried both and found the 2WD a noticebly better drive, and you also avoid the annoyance of the transfer case shifter trying to vibrate it's way through your thigh.

That's correct, I did not precise in my original post that I was waiting on the 4WD... As I was planning on doing some offroading.

Furthermore my test drive was in the 4WD, and it was good (maybe too much of a novice driver, but was not otherwise worried with the 4WD lever).

But considering that the 2WD is available directly... Well, might just as well get it.They pulled out the back video unit though.

Here is the latest offer:

1.insurance first class ( 1 year)

2.license plate frame

3.film

4.carpet

5.rubber floor

6.side visor

7.coating

8.rust proof

9.trunk tray

10.back camera

11.TV.(not free ) 6,000 baht

12. Chromium handles

[bkkjames]

However an update.... Thursday got a call from the dealership telling me that a black Mitsubishi 2wd was available immediately. I asked for a new quote... It seems dealerships are reluctant to sell 4wd models...

I missed that in the original post but were you waiting on the 4WD model? Definitely try the 2WD as I tried both and found the 2WD a noticebly better drive, and you also avoid the annoyance of the transfer case shifter trying to vibrate it's way through your thigh.

That's correct, I did not precise in my original post that I was waiting on the 4WD... As I was planning on doing some offroading.

Furthermore my test drive was in the 4WD, and it was good (maybe too much of a novice driver, but was not otherwise worried with the 4WD lever).

But considering that the 2WD is available directly... Well, might just as well get it.They pulled out the back video unit though.

Here is the latest offer:

1.insurance first class ( 1 year)

2.license plate frame

3.film

4.carpet

5.rubber floor

6.side visor

7.coating

8.rust proof

9.trunk tray

10.back camera

11.TV.(not free ) 6,000 baht

12. Chromium handles

Coating rust proof, back camera ok, the other stuff not really that big of deal, unless a license plate frame with the dealer name on it is the deal clincher for you

[2unique]

Bangkok Post puts Trailblazer > Tuna > PJS

http://www.bangkokpo...-size-suv-party

And says PJS must catch up with the times!! erm

Edited August 15, 2012 by 2unique

[anon210]

Bangkok Post puts Trailblazer > Tuna > PJS

http://www.bangkokpo...-size-suv-party

And says PJS must catch up with the times!! erm

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I may be wrong there, talking from an European perspective... but I still do not trust GM for long-term reliability. And it still is priced higher that the PJS.

Toyota... well just about 100 k + above the PJS.

I share the feeling about the motor noise of the PJS, but after all I am getting a sort of truck, not a sedan.

[anon210]

Got finally to see the future baby... Actually the future "Elephant" as a member of my family calls it. Delivery for Saturday, theoretically. Did not have to go back to sign papers for finance as I am approved for a higher amount.

I will be putting 40 % film on the windshield and 60 % on the sides. Lamina pop series from what I could see.

The car comes from a buyer who hesitated between black and grey.. and rejected black in the end. .. or so they say .>_>

A few resources on inspection at delivery... I think there was a question somewhere on what should be checked... So these links are very useful in what should be checked when getting the car.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian-car-scene/6027-new-car-predelivery-inspection-list-part-i-ii-iii-iv-kishor-kulkarni.html

And

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/buying-car/68581-article-pre-delivery-inspection-pdi-check-list.html

And

http://www.ksl.stanford.edu/people/kpfleger/autosafety/cache/misc/MotleyFoolDeliveryChecklist.html

And

http://www.mynrma.com.au/images/Motoring-PDF/NRMA-new-car-test-drive-check-list.pdf

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Edited August 15, 2012 by freemindxs

[fredob43]

Got finally to see the future baby... Actually the future "Elephant" as a member of my family calls it. Delivery for Saturday, theoretically. Did not have to go back to sign papers for finance as I am approved for a higher amount.

I will be putting 40 % film on the windshield and 60 % on the sides. Lamina pop series from what I could see.

The car comes from a buyer who hesitated between black and grey.. and rejected black in the end. .. or so they say .>_>

A few resources on inspection at delivery... I think there was a question somewhere on what should be checked... So these links are very useful in what should be checked when getting the car.

http://www.team-bhp....r-kulkarni.html

And

http://www.team-bhp....check-list.html

And

http://www.ksl.stanf...yChecklist.html

And

http://www.mynrma.co...-check-list.pdf

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Elephant A I used to have a Vigo 4x4 4 door pick up when I changed it to a Fortuner the first thing my wife said when she sat in it was a very nice car but a bit small. Well Sumall was the word she used. Edited August 15, 2012 by fredob43

[thailoht]

Bangkok Post puts Trailblazer > Tuna > PJS

http://www.bangkokpo...-size-suv-party

And says PJS must catch up with the times!! erm

That was a very good head-to-head-to-head comparison of the 3 top selling SUV models!

I may be wrong there, talking from an European perspective... but I still do not trust GM for long-term reliability. And it still is priced higher that the PJS.

Toyota... well just about 100 k + above the PJS.

I share the feeling about the motor noise of the PJS, but after all I am getting a sort of truck, not a sedan.

The new GM is like a born-again corporation! They emphsize 'quality' (and 'doing it right') throughout their production lines.

Got finally to see the future baby... Actually the future "Elephant" as a member of my family calls it. Delivery for Saturday, theoretically. Did not have to go back to sign papers for finance as I am approved for a higher amount.

I will be putting 40 % film on the windshield and 60 % on the sides. Lamina pop series from what I could see.

The car comes from a buyer who hesitated between black and grey.. and rejected black in the end. .. or so they say .>_>

A few resources on inspection at delivery... I think there was a question somewhere on what should be checked... So these links are very useful in what should be checked when getting the car.

http://www.team-bhp....r-kulkarni.html

And

http://www.team-bhp....check-list.html

And

http://www.ksl.stanf...yChecklist.html

And

http://www.mynrma.co...-check-list.pdf

Congratulations on your new car!!

I personally think you lucked out to have gotten the black-color model, the same color as Unique2's and mine - it will always look good and shiny if you keep it waxed and washed! The dark-grey color PJS looks good, too, IMHO.

[anon210]

Many thanks for the congratulations... Actually, I specifically demanded black. It so happened that a 2WD happened to be available... One week after ordering a 4WD.

Would not have accepted another color. It always looks classy and can go anywhere with glamour, if I may say so.

[lovelomsak]

Congrats I like your choice.. Good luck and enjoy your new vehicle

Edited August 16, 2012 by lovelomsak

[transam]

Many thanks for the congratulations... Actually, I specifically demanded black. It so happened that a 2WD happened to be available... One week after ordering a 4WD.

Would not have accepted another color. It always looks classy and can go anywhere with glamour, if I may say so.

It can ?

Glamour is Pink.