hookedondhamma Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Whether or not it's true, the mind is a powerful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 It think it gets even more far. Group pressure would mean that non believer just shut up. But I think it is different, as everyone believes the same, some naturally more skeptic also accept it......It must be true because everyone else "knows" it is true.... Think: You stay on the street, no cars...you tell a group: "STOP!, there is an invisible soundless car passing by at high speed., it will kill you." Sounds strange...people would call for professional help, something wrong with the brain.... Exactly the same: "An invisible soundless guy drinks the beer in the fridge (with critic checks, never any beer is missing)." is complete accepted. That you can pray to invisible people who might or might not have existed in the past and then they will help you (even there is no evidence at all the last 3000 years) seems complete normal for many people. And to make it even worse these believer (after you mention that there is no evidence) ask for a proof that there is no invisible ghost/god. If I tell there is an invisible pink elephant in my office: no one believes me (but they can't proof that there isn't one). If I tell there is a blue faced ghost at the airport, or a god who punish me if I drink a beer than it sounds complete logic.... I don't get it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I'm grateful for the belief in ghosts! Young kids used to use the wooded area behind my house to take drugs - then (a couple of years ago) someone committed suicide there - and the kids haven't been back! I have a ghost in the fridge... We have a chocolate ghost............. I buy it and the next day its gone?????????????? The Wife always has smug grin though? perhaps she is possessed by this ghost? face facts if something isnt understood people will invent soemthing to fill the lack of an answer, ghosts, god, goblins , fairies, esp, spoon bending etc etc ALL the same. You know the roman catholic church is still teaching exorcists. Maybe one of these can help (just lock the children away before the rc monk comes). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 This is an interesting link for all the doubters and believers out there. http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/articles/id/spiritualresearch/difficulties/Ghosts_Demons/whatareghosts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Is this page satirical, or serious? I am not sure? "The type of funeral." I wrote in my will that I want to be conservated naked in a big glass cylinder full of vodka, somewhere close to the TV. What does that bring me? 2. What decides where we go and what we become after death? When we die, our course in the after-life is decided by a number of factors. These factors include: The number and type of impressions that are created in the sub-conscious mind depending on how we have lived our lives. Refer to the article on the impressions in our mind that decides our basic nature and personality. Our ego: The word ‘ego’ is used in a spiritual context here. In addition to its everyday usage as self esteem and self conceit, it also includes the attitude of duality with God. Duality means thinking of oneself as having an existence separate from God. Ego is a function of the extent to which we identify with our 5 senses, mind and intellect instead of identifying with the Soul or the God within us. The type of deeds done during our life-time. The extent and the type of spiritual practice we had undertaken during our lifetime. Our Destiny The type of death – natural and peaceful, violent or accidental. The type of funeral. The rituals as per Spiritual science done by our descendants after our death to help us in our after life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 This is an interesting link for all the doubters and believers out there. http://www.spiritual...s/whatareghosts Looks like tripe to me again no evidence of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 This is an interesting link for all the doubters and believers out there. http://www.spiritual...s/whatareghosts Looks like tripe to me again no evidence of anything. Not easy to have evidence on what happens to people after they die. Maybe you should speak to a medium or psychic as thats the closest you'll get to communicating with spirits. Or do you think they are all fake? worldwide that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 This is an interesting link for all the doubters and believers out there. http://www.spiritual...s/whatareghosts Looks like tripe to me again no evidence of anything. Not easy to have evidence on what happens to people after they die. Maybe you should speak to a medium or psychic as thats the closest you'll get to communicating with spirits. Or do you think they are all fake? worldwide that is? Yes undoubtedly ALL fake, besides I prefer a regular or large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 In this modern day of technology........they've just landed a vehicle on Mars <deleted>. Surely with the amount of electronics etc. we have or whatever is required to prove that these entities exist, it would've been done by now. It is all brainwashing regardless of what religion you may believe in. I feel sorry for young kids who don't have a choice as to what they want to think or believe, it is basically thrashed into them what they must believe. As far as ghosts.......no proof, no believe. I would dearly love to meet a ghost..........I would have 100's of questions that I would probably bore the crap out of them with, and they would then dismiss me and make me think that I was only dreamin'. Why Are We Here?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meisgq Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Wow. It's a wonder that thai people actually tolerate, not respect, some of you morons. You live in their country and disrespect the entire population because you think their beliefs are "misguided?" based on your notion of right and wrong? Being educated does not mean that a person doesn't believe in spirits. I believe and I'm educated, post-grad in the states. Shawn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Wow. It's a wonder that thai people actually tolerate, not respect, some of you morons. You live in their country and disrespect the entire population because you think their beliefs are "misguided?" based on your notion of right and wrong? Being educated does not mean that a person doesn't believe in spirits. I believe and I'm educated, post-grad in the states. Shawn Congratulations an educated misguided American......... based on fact not fiction and remember the word is "believe" nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 In this modern day of technology........they've just landed a vehicle on Mars <deleted>. Surely with the amount of electronics etc. we have or whatever is required to prove that these entities exist, it would've been done by now. As far as ghosts.......no proof, no believe. Ever heard of EVP's (Electronic Voice Phenomena) check what they are on wikipedia. Here;s an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 In this modern day of technology........they've just landed a vehicle on Mars <deleted>. Surely with the amount of electronics etc. we have or whatever is required to prove that these entities exist, it would've been done by now. It is all brainwashing regardless of what religion you may believe in. I feel sorry for young kids who don't have a choice as to what they want to think or believe, it is basically thrashed into them what they must believe. As far as ghosts.......no proof, no believe. I would dearly love to meet a ghost..........I would have 100's of questions that I would probably bore the crap out of them with, and they would then dismiss me and make me think that I was only dreamin'. Why Are We Here?????????? Does there have to be a reason anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 In this modern day of technology........they've just landed a vehicle on Mars <deleted>. Surely with the amount of electronics etc. we have or whatever is required to prove that these entities exist, it would've been done by now. As far as ghosts.......no proof, no believe. Ever heard of EVP's (Electronic Voice Phenomena) check what they are on wikipedia. Here;s an example Sorry more drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonD Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Nothing wrong, or misguided, about tripe, so long as it's served with onions. 40% proof is the absolute minimum I would demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 This is a documentary on Bravo tv from the UK worth a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w0p-E4I1n8&feature=fvwrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 In this modern day of technology........they've just landed a vehicle on Mars <deleted>. Surely with the amount of electronics etc. we have or whatever is required to prove that these entities exist, it would've been done by now. As far as ghosts.......no proof, no believe. Ever heard of EVP's (Electronic Voice Phenomena) Sorry more drivel. I was just showing Rsqaured that technology in this day and age does exist. Not for you though Travelmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) This is a documentary on Bravo tv from the UK worth a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w0p-E4I1n8&feature=fvwrel Oh Plllllllllllllllllllllllllease, Bravo tv is that the sum of the evidence?? case dismissed...................fantasy " but none can be authenticated" just about sums it all up. Edited August 11, 2012 by travelmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonD Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) @ sotsira, Give it a rest. No-one here disputes your credulity but you aren't convincing the unbelievers, and with good reason. The great unenlightened masses, wherever they may be, are more tolerant, and less critical, of received opinion than educated people and more likely to resist challenges to those beliefs. Fair play to them. I would expect nothing less from a university graduate with the equivalent grounding of a primary school education but that does not hold true of the critical thought practised by people brought up in a culture that questions the validity and origin of their information. Your 'evidence' has yet to be forthcoming. Your 'faith' is not is not in dispute. Edited August 11, 2012 by SimonD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3044607.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookedondhamma Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Wow. It's a wonder that thai people actually tolerate, not respect, some of you morons. You live in their country and disrespect the entire population because you think their beliefs are "misguided?" based on your notion of right and wrong? Being educated does not mean that a person doesn't believe in spirits. I believe and I'm educated, post-grad in the states. Shawn Congratulations an educated misguided American......... based on fact not fiction and remember the word is "believe" nothing more. You actually had something with that quote until you brought in nationality. But then again, bashing is so Thai Visa, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookedondhamma Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Wow. It's a wonder that thai people actually tolerate, not respect, some of you morons. You live in their country and disrespect the entire population because you think their beliefs are "misguided?" based on your notion of right and wrong? Being educated does not mean that a person doesn't believe in spirits. I believe and I'm educated, post-grad in the states. Shawn For the record, most arguments go down the drain when name-calling is resorted to - that goes for those 'educated' and 'un-educated' ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Wow. It's a wonder that thai people actually tolerate, not respect, some of you morons. You live in their country and disrespect the entire population because you think their beliefs are "misguided?" based on your notion of right and wrong? Being educated does not mean that a person doesn't believe in spirits. I believe and I'm educated, post-grad in the states. Shawn So you are saying the entire population believes in ghosts? Thats quite a stretch. A large group of people in the states believe in Jesus and think that if you aren't saved, for sure you are going to hell. Do you have a problem with foreigners visiting the US thinking those people are a bit "misguided?" Get real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Well the OP has been scared off! BOO! At the end of the day, its each to their own. Some do some dont and it should all be respected. For me its not that I do but its not that I dont either. I would like to see a pic of this castle the OP is talking about. Sounds cool! Anyway Ive gotta go, Dr Peter Venkman is at the door lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Well the OP has been scared off! BOO! At the end of the day, its each to their own. Some do some dont and it should all be respected. For me its not that I do but its not that I dont either. I would like to see a pic of this castle the OP is talking about. Sounds cool! Anyway Ive gotta go, Dr Peter Venkman is at the door lol! Nah I can never respect this especially when its taught as "the truth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 i guess ghosts are related to : "chasing the dragon", look it up in google if you need to 21st century ... but even my wife, educated and all, still believes in this crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moggie Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 does anybody know more about the ghost at chiang mai mansion on the moat road? the ghost occupies the most strangest building i have ever seen in chiang mai. the building has a really strange history to it, never been finished and yet amazing to see. it is for sale and i have set up a website on facebook to find out more about it! can anybody help me? facebook site SAVE CHIANG MAI MANSION ACTION GROUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Id like to see the non believers her stay a night or 2 in these places they say arent haunted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I'd be happy to stay in these so called haunted houses. Why are all ghosts meant to be scary? Surely if they were real, there would have to a certain percentage of "friendly" ones...... .....or I suppose logic has been thrown out the window as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1fanatic Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Id like to see the non believers her stay a night or 2 in these places they say arent haunted. Didn't James Randi offer a large reward for proof of the supernatural? Assuming that reward is still being offered, surely its worth any true believer's time to visit these haunted places and obtain proof? FWIW - I'm not convinced, but would be open to genuine evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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