Work On Family Rubber Tree Plantation Wp Needed?

[ddeellbbooyy]

Hi all

Me and the wife (thai) are planning on going back to live in thailand , if i was to work on the family rubber plantation would a work permit be needed to do this . We will be in the north east near nong khai area,and if yes how do we go about doing this !

Thanks all who help .

[transam]

You cannot do this work. No permit.

If you open a company and employ x amount of people with huge amount of cash in the bank, yes.

BUT, your wife will run things and you will be a beer drinker eh.

Real knowledge of this stuff will be along soon.

[Lite Beer]

Moved to the Work Permit Forum

[sirchai]

To answer your question: You won't get a work permit for a job a Thai could also do. But:

I'm pretty sure that nobody would make you any problems when "helping out" your wive.

[Lite Beer]

Prohibited types of work

Manual work;

Work in agriculture, animal husbandry, forestry or fishing excluding specialized work in each particular branch or farm supervision;

http://www.thaivisa.com/330.0.html

[Mario2008]

All work requires a work permt, as mentioned, for agricultural work it will not be issued.

[CiaranO]

dont worry about a work permit...........seriously who's going to dob you in for helping your wife...........the answer is no one......enjoy the farm............and good luck

[NancyL]

dont worry about a work permit...........seriously who's going to dob you in for helping your wife...........the answer is no one......enjoy the farm............and good luck

Well, let's see -- who's going to "dob you in"? Maybe the neighbors. Maybe people in competition with the wife's business. Maybe someone who gets into an unrelated dispute with the OP. Maybe a disgruntled employee or family member. The list is endless.

Edited August 26, 2012 by NancyL

[phuket Mike]

Here's a reply from a department of labour official to a similar enquiry I found on a Phuket newspaper site.

"You can help your husband with his business, however, according to the Foreign Workers Employment Act BE 2551, if you assist in a trade or occupation which is carried out for profit, whether or not you receive pay or reward for that employment, you are required to have a work permit."

It's a question of whether the sale of latex is classed as making profit. Speaking as someone who worked on my wife's rubber farm for 6 years without a problem or work permit, I would say don't worry about it. Most of the locals were happy to see a farang doing the same work as them. As for someone in competition dobbing you in, there is no competition rubber tree farmers can sell all the latex they produce.

[FritsSikkink]

Speaking as someone who worked on my wife's rubber farm for 6 years without a problem or work permit, I would say don't worry about it. Most of the locals were happy to see a farang doing the same work as them.

You were lucky, any Thai who is pissed off with you at any stage could report you. Then you will be jailed, fined and deported.

You have to do without your wife for a while.

[transam]

Speaking as someone who worked on my wife's rubber farm for 6 years without a problem or work permit, I would say don't worry about it. Most of the locals were happy to see a farang doing the same work as them.

You were lucky, any Thai who is pissed off with you at any stage could report you. Then you will be jailed, fined and deported.

You have to do without your wife for a while.

You are correct but the chances are slim. I know a farang chef, no work permit and gov folk eat at his place. BUT, as you say, if someone is pissed off they can cause a problem, but the business this guy is talking about l would not worry, just do everything via his wife.

[PattayaPhom]

Speaking as someone who worked on my wife's rubber farm for 6 years without a problem or work permit, I would say don't worry about it. Most of the locals were happy to see a farang doing the same work as them.

You were lucky, any Thai who is pissed off with you at any stage could report you. Then you will be jailed, fined and deported.

You have to do without your wife for a while.

Although its never wise to work without a WP, in the OPs case common sense is the order of the day.....Just when was any one deported or no WP, unless o course ilegal boilers rooms?

[pnustedt]

All work requires a work permt, as mentioned, for agricultural work it will not be issued.

excluding specialized work in each particular branch or farm suprervision

[Mosha]

I hope the OP likes working night shift, as that's when most of the work is done.

[ddeellbbooyy]

Lucky it's only the parents and our son in the family as she's the only child

Edited August 26, 2012 by ddeellbbooyy

[ddeellbbooyy]

I hope the OP likes working night shift, as that's when most of the work is done.

Night shifts don't worry me as i normally work in nightclubs ( bouncer ) at night .

[transam]

I hope the OP likes working night shift, as that's when most of the work is done.

Night shifts don't worry me as i normally work in nightclubs ( bouncer ) at night .

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[ddeellbbooyy]

Speaking as someone who worked on my wife's rubber farm for 6 years without a problem or work permit, I would say don't worry about it. Most of the locals were happy to see a farang doing the same work as them.

You were lucky, any Thai who is pissed off with you at any stage could report you. Then you will be jailed, fined and deported.

You have to do without your wife for a while.

The last sentence does'nt seem to bad

[transam]

Speaking as someone who worked on my wife's rubber farm for 6 years without a problem or work permit, I would say don't worry about it. Most of the locals were happy to see a farang doing the same work as them.

You were lucky, any Thai who is pissed off with you at any stage could report you. Then you will be jailed, fined and deported.

You have to do without your wife for a while.

The last sentence does'nt seem to bad

You are at that juncture eh.

[jamescollister]

I hope the OP likes working night shift, as that's when most of the work is done.

Night shifts don't worry me as i normally work in nightclubs ( bouncer ) at night .

Look in the farming forum, people doing rubber, rice cassava, pigs, etc. No one gives a rats ass to a farang sweating his beer out on a farm.

I have 12 workers [wife] I guess, a limited partnership company and no WP, don't like to work, lazy, but no one cares.

Rural Thailand is not Pattaya, Samui or Phuket, no immigration police lurking around waiting for you to do some tapping.

Doubt you will in fact take up rubber tapping, it's a skill that takes time to learn and not an easy job. Jim

[David48]

^^ Hi there Jim .. we know each other from the Farming forum.

As I pointed out to pigeonjake ... and as you said ... no-one gives a rats ... until.

Until you have a dispute with a Thai, or become serious competition for a Thai.

As the Moderators have pointed out, almost all of the Farming work carried out by Farangs is illegal.

But, as with most things in Thailand, the rules are mostly guidelines ... until you cross that invisible line.

[Semper]

Why would a Westerner want to work on a rubber tree plantation in the first place? There's plenty of workers available that would do a good day's work for 200 Baht.

[Mosha]

Why would a Westerner want to work on a rubber tree plantation in the first place? There's plenty of workers available that would do a good day's work for 200 Baht.

Actually it's 40% of the cut

[jamescollister]

^^ Hi there Jim .. we know each other from the Farming forum.

As I pointed out to pigeonjake ... and as you said ... no-one gives a rats ... until.

Until you have a dispute with a Thai, or become serious competition for a Thai.

As the Moderators have pointed out, almost all of the Farming work carried out by Farangs is illegal.

But, as with most things in Thailand, the rules are mostly guidelines ... until you cross that invisible line.

There is risk with anything, but think I am fairly safe out here, we don't have a uniformed police presence, only border soldiers. Doubt the Royal Thai Immigration Police would be bothered to mount an operation requiring an army escort, just to catch me sleeping in a hammock in one of the plantations, but you never know. Jim