thaicruze Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) How much do you think a dealer will pay me for my car in 2015? (Provided it has never been in an accident and it's in perfect working order). 2011 Cruze LS 1.8 - 875,000 baht. - pretty much stock with a leather conversion. Edited September 8, 2012 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 How much do you think a dealer will pay me for my car in 2015? (Provided it has never been in an accident and it's in perfect working order).2011 Cruze LS 1.8 - 875,000 baht. - pretty much stock with a leather conversion. Thaicruze, the big issue is the mileage that your car will have accumulated by then. Anything over 100 k and it is likely the depreciation will be even steeper. 3 yrs from now... maybe you should take a look at the prices 3-yr old chevys fetch on 2nd hand sites such as one2car. Accessories generally do not fetch a premium. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 ]3 yrs from now... maybe you should take a look at the prices 3-yr old chevys fetch on 2nd hand sites such as one2car. And then deduct 100.000 Baht for the price you're going to get from the dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Daewoos last that long ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Daewoos last that long ? Yes, much better than Chevys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Daewoos last that long ? Yes, much better than Chevys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) How much do you think a dealer will pay me for my car in 2015? (Provided it has never been in an accident and it's in perfect working order).2011 Cruze LS 1.8 - 875,000 baht. - pretty much stock with a leather conversion. Thaicruze, the big issue is the mileage that your car will have accumulated by then. Anything over 100 k and it is likely the depreciation will be even steeper. 3 yrs from now... maybe you should take a look at the prices 3-yr old chevys fetch on 2nd hand sites such as one2car. Accessories generally do not fetch a premium. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Thaivisa Connect App I calculate in 2015 my car will have around 80,000km on it. I am guessing 500,000 baht? I can't find any Cruze's from 2010. They're selling one like mine 2011 for 800,000. Edited September 8, 2012 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 It's going to be worth 600,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyJebus Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I have been trying to sell my LT for 800 000 with only 12 000 km. 1 month only 1 real offer and the guy can't find the money. LT is 950 000 new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I reckon the popularity of the Cruze between now and 2015 will have more influence on the resale value than the mileage. Last time I sold a car through the tent dealers, some of them did not even look at the odometer. They seem to have a price list in their heads by model and year with minor adjustment for interior and exterior cosmetic condition and that's about it. 500,000 from a dealer who then advertises the 4 year old Cruze for 600,000 sounds plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I reckon the popularity of the Cruze between now and 2015 will have more influence on the resale value than the mileage. Last time I sold a car through the tent dealers, some of them did not even look at the odometer. They seem to have a price list in their heads by model and year with minor adjustment for interior and exterior cosmetic condition and that's about it. 500,000 from a dealer who then advertises the 4 year old Cruze for 600,000 sounds plausible. Makes sence - you can see similarities in price for newish cars of the same model and year - plus or minus 30K or so. Low kms doesn't seem to have much effect on price here. Low km cars can still be trashed and treated badly when compared to a high km car that is fully serviced and maintained. So my philosophy when I got my car was to pile kms on it, because at the end of the day it doesn't affect resale all that much, especially after 5 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 I reckon the popularity of the Cruze between now and 2015 will have more influence on the resale value than the mileage. Last time I sold a car through the tent dealers, some of them did not even look at the odometer. They seem to have a price list in their heads by model and year with minor adjustment for interior and exterior cosmetic condition and that's about it. 500,000 from a dealer who then advertises the 4 year old Cruze for 600,000 sounds plausible. That's because every used car dealer here alters the odometer, so it doesn't really matter. The milage will be what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 I have been trying to sell my LT for 800 000 with only 12 000 km. 1 month only 1 real offer and the guy can't find the money. LT is 950 000 new Have you tried a tent guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyJebus Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 none of them want it. Nobody wants a used cruze in perfert condition at 70k under its real value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I think you're all too optimistic. 500.000 or 600.000 may end up the price a 2nd hand dealer will ask for it, but selling at those prices will be difficult. Maybe 450.000 Baht, more likely 400.000 Baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I reckon the popularity of the Cruze between now and 2015 will have more influence on the resale value than the mileage. Last time I sold a car through the tent dealers, some of them did not even look at the odometer. They seem to have a price list in their heads by model and year with minor adjustment for interior and exterior cosmetic condition and that's about it. 500,000 from a dealer who then advertises the 4 year old Cruze for 600,000 sounds plausible. That's because every used car dealer here alters the odometer, so it doesn't really matter. The milage will be what they want. Do you have any evidence for this or are you just assuming? My experience has been that whilst you would imagine this sort of practice would be rife here, because buyers don't take so much interest in what is on the clock, and because price doesn't vary so much because of the clock, used dealers don't tend to bother. Too much hassle for not enough gain. In general anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicruze Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) I reckon the popularity of the Cruze between now and 2015 will have more influence on the resale value than the mileage. Last time I sold a car through the tent dealers, some of them did not even look at the odometer. They seem to have a price list in their heads by model and year with minor adjustment for interior and exterior cosmetic condition and that's about it. 500,000 from a dealer who then advertises the 4 year old Cruze for 600,000 sounds plausible. That's because every used car dealer here alters the odometer, so it doesn't really matter. The milage will be what they want. Do you have any evidence for this or are you just assuming? My experience has been that whilst you would imagine this sort of practice would be rife here, because buyers don't take so much interest in what is on the clock, and because price doesn't vary so much because of the clock, used dealers don't tend to bother. Too much hassle for not enough gain. In general anyway. I'm 100% sure they alter the odometers no matter what. Like the first car I bought. A City. I was at a tent. City JUST came in. It has just over 10,000km on it. I saw it when they were cleaning it out. I liked it. I left. I came back a few days later to make an offer. Turned it on again. Magically the odometer went to 5,000km. That's when I left. Walked into a Honda dealer and bought it brand new. I think if it's used and it's in Thailand, the odometer has been altered. My car I sold with 150,000 km on it. They probably sold it with 80,000km on it. Actually, after going to tent after tent my wife and I came to 2 conclusions: 1- used car dealers alter all odometers even if it isn't necessary. 2- even if they show you a warranty service book; they probably signed the book themselves. Edited September 9, 2012 by thaicruze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 That's because every used car dealer here alters the odometer, so it doesn't really matter. The milage will be what they want. Do you have any evidence for this or are you just assuming? My experience has been that whilst you would imagine this sort of practice would be rife here, because buyers don't take so much interest in what is on the clock, and because price doesn't vary so much because of the clock, used dealers don't tend to bother. Too much hassle for not enough gain. In general anyway. I'm 100% sure they alter the odometers no matter what. Like the first car I bought. A City. I was at a tent. City JUST came in. It has just over 10,000km on it. I saw it when they were cleaning it out. I liked it. I left. I came back a few days later to make an offer. Turned it on again. Magically the odometer went to 5,000km. That's when I left. Walked into a Honda dealer and bought it brand new. I think if it's used and it's in Thailand, the odometer has been altered. My car I sold with 150,000 km on it. They probably sold it with 80,000km on it. Actually, after going to tent after tent my wife and I came to 2 conclusions: 1- used car dealers alter all odometers even if it isn't necessary. 2- even if they show you a warranty service book; they probably signed the book themselves. I wasn't disputing that there are dealers that get up to this dodgy practice, i was disputing your claim that every used dealer does it. None of the ones i have dealt with have, with the cars i have looked at. Perhaps you have been unlucky, or perhaps i have been lucky. Who knows. Be good to have stingray's input on this matter but not sure if he is about these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I reckon the popularity of the Cruze between now and 2015 will have more influence on the resale value than the mileage. Last time I sold a car through the tent dealers, some of them did not even look at the odometer. They seem to have a price list in their heads by model and year with minor adjustment for interior and exterior cosmetic condition and that's about it. 500,000 from a dealer who then advertises the 4 year old Cruze for 600,000 sounds plausible. That's because every used car dealer here alters the odometer, so it doesn't really matter. The milage will be what they want. Do you have any evidence for this or are you just assuming? My experience has been that whilst you would imagine this sort of practice would be rife here, because buyers don't take so much interest in what is on the clock, and because price doesn't vary so much because of the clock, used dealers don't tend to bother. Too much hassle for not enough gain. In general anyway. I'm 100% sure they alter the odometers no matter what. Like the first car I bought. A City. I was at a tent. City JUST came in. It has just over 10,000km on it. I saw it when they were cleaning it out. I liked it. I left. I came back a few days later to make an offer. Turned it on again. Magically the odometer went to 5,000km. That's when I left. Walked into a Honda dealer and bought it brand new. I think if it's used and it's in Thailand, the odometer has been altered. My car I sold with 150,000 km on it. They probably sold it with 80,000km on it. Actually, after going to tent after tent my wife and I came to 2 conclusions: 1- used car dealers alter all odometers even if it isn't necessary. 2- even if they show you a warranty service book; they probably signed the book themselves. 1 experience, and based on that 'no matter what they all change the odometer'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Typical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) I reckon the popularity of the Cruze between now and 2015 will have more influence on the resale value than the mileage. Last time I sold a car through the tent dealers, some of them did not even look at the odometer. They seem to have a price list in their heads by model and year with minor adjustment for interior and exterior cosmetic condition and that's about it. 500,000 from a dealer who then advertises the 4 year old Cruze for 600,000 sounds plausible. That's because every used car dealer here alters the odometer, so it doesn't really matter. The milage will be what they want. Do you have any evidence for this or are you just assuming? My experience has been that whilst you would imagine this sort of practice would be rife here, because buyers don't take so much interest in what is on the clock, and because price doesn't vary so much because of the clock, used dealers don't tend to bother. Too much hassle for not enough gain. In general anyway. I'm 100% sure they alter the odometers no matter what. Like the first car I bought. A City. I was at a tent. City JUST came in. It has just over 10,000km on it. I saw it when they were cleaning it out. I liked it. I left. I came back a few days later to make an offer. Turned it on again. Magically the odometer went to 5,000km. That's when I left. Walked into a Honda dealer and bought it brand new. I think if it's used and it's in Thailand, the odometer has been altered. My car I sold with 150,000 km on it. They probably sold it with 80,000km on it. Actually, after going to tent after tent my wife and I came to 2 conclusions: 1- used car dealers alter all odometers even if it isn't necessary. 2- even if they show you a warranty service book; they probably signed the book themselves. Not sure why, if you knew it was altered so nothing hidden from you, why you didn't use that to your advantage to make a better deal on your behalf if possible if as you say "you liked the car", it's not like you didn't know the original mileage and it wasn't an extreme change anyways? I mean that only amounts to 3000miles difference, really rather insignificant in the grand scheme of things.. Edited September 13, 2012 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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