Police Doctor Now In Custody, After Three Bodies Found On His Phetchaburi Property

[Dap]

I notice that if a post involves a westerner we get a lot of pity and RIP and such rubbish for the victim(s). If the victim(s) happen to be Thai we get NOTHING, Something smell racist to you?

P.S Oh, and then we get moans that Thai's are racist ones - what a joke!

The very next time I read about a farang putting someones arm in a "shredder" or not paying wages or killing anyone because he didn't agree with them I'll be sure to let you know that I think the farang is sh*t. It has nothing to do with racism, just sadistic killers. This one just happened to be a doctor.

[dragonfly33]

I notice that if a post involves a westerner we get a lot of pity and RIP and such rubbish for the victim(s). If the victim(s) happen to be Thai we get NOTHING, Something smell racist to you?

P.S Oh, and then we get moans that Thai's are racist ones - what a joke!

Firstly I think the victims are Burmese not Thai, secondly I personally give the Thai's as much respect as they give me (a Westerner) that is zero!

Funny, I am also a westerner, I get a lot of respect from Thais. Firstly I think that whether or not one gets respect depends upon one's own behavior (i.e. in this matter I would look more at myself than blaming a whole nation of 60 million people), and secondly, if I really felt that that Thai people as a whole did not respect me, I for one certainly would not live here. I wonder therefore why he doesn't go home and stop complaining (although I imagine he probably also has some similar issues with the people in his own country, which is why he is here in the first place.)

[Payboy]

Surely there must be some way they can blame all this on Kala the Burmese.

Edited September 23, 2012 by Payboy

[Unkomoncents]

I notice that if a post involves a westerner we get a lot of pity and RIP and such rubbish for the victim(s). If the victim(s) happen to be Thai we get NOTHING, Something smell racist to you?

P.S Oh, and then we get moans that Thai's are racist ones - what a joke!

Firstly I think the victims are Burmese not Thai, secondly I personally give the Thai's as much respect as they give me (a Westerner) that is zero!

Right... "I'll respect you if you respect me... you go first." Man, either you don't know the right Thai people or you lack the talent for getting people to respect you - or perhaps both.

You must have extraordinary insight into the minds of Thais (do you speak Thai?) to recognize the "right" Thai. Are you only an expert on Thais or do you read the minds of other peoples too? Thai people are excellent at projecting an image that is starkly different from the reality. You sound like a "Land of Smiles" dupe.

[luckyman]

I think the fact that there were Thai victims too, made it a real case after all.

[webfact]

update:

'Killer' police doctor sacked by hospital

KWANHATHAI MALAKARN,

ANAN KONGCHAROEN

THE NATION

PHETCHABURI:-- Pol Col Supat Laohawattana, a police doctor suspected of killing at least four people and burying their bodies on his property in Phetchaburi, will be fired and his request for early retirement suspended, Pol Lt Gen Jongjet Oajenpong, chief doctor at the Police General Hospital said yesterday.

Supat has been arrested and detained on suspicion of killing a local couple he reportedly argued with several years ago.

Jongjet said he would today issue an order to have Supat removed from office and he would ask the Royal Thai Police to suspend Supat's request for early retirement, due to take effect from October 1. He said Supat was now facing criminal charges and not qualified for early retirement. Supat's promotion to Pol Maj General was due on Sept 30.

Sawang Numjui, the father of Samart Numjui, who went missing three years ago, filed a complaint with police yesterday accusing Supat and his wife Wilsa Chanthornbanchorn of conspiring to murder and hide the bodies of his son and daughter-in-law.

Sawang Numjui told police that on September 15, Suthep Laohawattana, Supat's elder brother took his daughter, Wimol Numjui, to stay at Supat's mother's house in Nonthaburi's Muang district. There they found a silver pick-up which his son Samart and Orasa used before the couple went missing three years ago.

Sawang said he called Supat and asked him why the pick-up of his missing son and his daughter-in-law had turned up at his mother's house in Nonthaburi. He said Supat tried to intimidate him saying if he talked about the matter, he would not live in peace.

Sawang said he followed a team of police on Saturday to Supat's property in Phetchaburi to find the bodies of the couple. Police uncovered a skeleton believed to be Samart with a bullet hole in the left side of the skull. He was confident the skeleton was that of his son because he recognised Samart's teeth and the clothes on his remains.

Sawang said Suthep - Supat's brother - had told his daughter Supat killed Samart and Orasa and buried their bodies in his farm in Phetchaburi. He claimed Supat's wife Wilsa was an accomplice to the crime.

-- The Nation 2012-09-24

[cup-O-coffee]

Ehhhhhh... What's up, Doc?

In the USA that would mean every case that this doctor produced findings on would be nulled and voided. That would mean retrials or releases.

Nice one, Doc!

[Colabamumbai]

1. So the workers claim to have witnessed some of these things, and also to cover them up but were forced to do it. I can understand being forced or coerced under extreme circumstances, but unfortunately, I feel money being an issue here. I sincerely hope I never have to compromise myself so badly and do what is clearly not right
   

Also the workers were probably illegal and may have been threatened regarding their legal or illegal status in Thailand.

[cheeryble]

"they couldn't yet confirm if the person died from a gunshot or the victim's sex."

There are many differences between the male and female human skeletons. Men tend to have slightly thicker and longer limbs and digit bones, while women tend to have narrower rib cages, smaller teeth, less angular mandibles, and less pronounced cranial features such as the brow ridges and occipital protuberance (the small bump at the back of the skull). Most striking is the difference in hip bones, owing to differences related to the process of reproduction, and very likely also to the biological process of sexual selection. There are a number of smaller differences between human male and female skeletons as well.

Strange, they don't mention the dick-bone......

[Colabamumbai]

I notice that if a post involves a westerner we get a lot of pity and RIP and such rubbish for the victim(s). If the victim(s) happen to be Thai we get NOTHING, Something smell racist to you?

P.S Oh, and then we get moans that Thai's are racist ones - what a joke!

Firstly I think the victims are Burmese not Thai, secondly I personally give the Thai's as much respect as they give me (a Westerner) that is zero!

Funny, I am also a westerner, I get a lot of respect from Thais. Firstly I think that whether or not one gets respect depends upon one's own behavior (i.e. in this matter I would look more at myself than blaming a whole nation of 60 million people), and secondly, if I really felt that that Thai people as a whole did not respect me, I for one certainly would not live here. I wonder therefore why he doesn't go home and stop complaining (although I imagine he probably also has some similar issues with the people in his own country, which is why he is here in the first place.)

Unfortunately in Thailand respect means money if you are a foreigner. Without money few people in Thailand willl respect you. Respect is something that is usually earned, not paid for. No money=no respect. I have been dealing with Thai people for nearly 40 years now, in one way or another. Mind you this does not apply to all Thais, and more so for Thai women. "How big is the bulge." the bulge in the pocket, not in the stomach.

Edited September 24, 2012 by Colabamumbai

[Artisi]

I notice that if a post involves a westerner we get a lot of pity and RIP and such rubbish for the victim(s). If the victim(s) happen to be Thai we get NOTHING, Something smell racist to you?

P.S Oh, and then we get moans that Thai's are racist ones - what a joke!

Firstly I think the victims are Burmese not Thai, secondly I personally give the Thai's as much respect as they give me (a Westerner) that is zero!

Funny, I am also a westerner, I get a lot of respect from Thais. Firstly I think that whether or not one gets respect depends upon one's own behavior (i.e. in this matter I would look more at myself than blaming a whole nation of 60 million people), and secondly, if I really felt that that Thai people as a whole did not respect me, I for one certainly would not live here. I wonder therefore why he doesn't go home and stop complaining (although I imagine he probably also has some similar issues with the people in his own country, which is why he is here in the first place.)

Unfortunately in Thailand respect means money if you are a foreigner. Without money few people in Thailand willl respect you. Respect is something that is usually earned, not paid for. No money=no respect. I have been dealing with Thai people for nearly 40 years now, in one way or another. Mind you this does not apply to all Thais, and more so for Thai women. "How big is the bulge." the bulge in the pocket, not in the stomach.

Or the bulge below the stomach? (actually the abdomen)

Edited September 24, 2012 by Artisi

[edgarfriendly]

Wow!!

a real portrait of a genuine thai intellectual who has been sacked for gross misconduct...

i never thought id see it in print! despite it being a huge requirement to get the nation out of the mess its neck deep in.

Now the apologists can say he's somehow different from the rest of the 60 million who've cheated their way through their pitiful education to get a social status that they will kill to maintain...

I'll ignore them though.

Open your eyes and look around you.

You may be over the moon at your good fortune, but i guarantee there are those not too far from you who wish you harm.

perhaps over a misunderstanding or perhaps over greed.

you're not safe.

here.

[Arkady]

The good doctor with soon be out on bail and the witnesses will start changing their stories or suffering nasty, fatal accidents. Then he will be acquitted for lack of evidence.

[biplanebluey]

And you say he lives in PHETCHABODY ? Right place by the sound of it------------------------------Dougal

[pauljones]

He is a high ranking policeman. He may end of being sentenced for this... about 10 years from now, but then he will either be given bail & handed his passport or will simply walk into the front door of the prison & then out the back door.

As long as he didn't kill anyone important, he will probably wiggle out of it.

[transam]

Dr.Crippin I presume.

[webfact]

update:

Victims shot at close range : Forensics

THE NATION

One skeleton identified; provincial court okays police doctor’s detention

PHETCHABURI: -- A police doctor has been suspended from practice - and put in court custody - over suspected links to the murder of three people after three skeletons were found on his farm in Phetchaburi. Two of his suspected victims were a couple reported missing three years ago.

After his identity was revealed in the media last week, other stories about Dr Supat Laohawatthana's brutality started emerging, mainly from his brother Suthep, with whom he has had a long dispute over property.

One story was told by a worker from Myanmar whose arm was forced into a corn-grinding machine and severed up to the elbow, allegedly on the order of Supat.

It has also been alleged that Supat has been holding this worker's two young children in a safe house in Bangkok to ensure that the worker and his family continue working for him as enslaved labour. As for the three skeletons, Suthep alleged that Suphat shot the victims in the head after torturing them.

These details are said to be consistent with a police complaint lodged by Sawang Numjui, father of Samart, who disappeared with his wife Orasa Kerdsab in 2009. The couple, who previously worked for Supat and later bought land adjoining his ranch, were allegedly in dispute with him over boundary demarcation. Sawang, relying on scraps of clothing, identified one of the skeletons as that of his son.

For now, Supat faces charges of restraining people against their will, theft and possessing stolen items.

His request for early retirement, which would earn him the rank of a police major-general, has also been put on hold.

Human remains found on his farm have been sent to the Institute of Forensic Medicine. Initial tests show that the heads of two of the victims were pressed to the ground and shot several times, assistant police chief Pol Lt-General Jaramphorn Suramanee said.

"The gunshot wounds are close to each other indicating that the victim's heads were held still. Otherwise the bullet holes would have been far apart because naturally a victim's body or head will move once it is shot at," he said.

FATHER IDENTIFIES MISSING SON

One body, identified as being male, shows no signs of torture, while another - the sex of which has yet to be determined - has two bullet holes in the skull. The third body, also of an undetermined sex, has three bullet holes in the skull.

Meanwhile, in defence of his statement implicating Supat, Suthep said he had no reason to put his own brother under fire, except that Supat was wrongly trying to put the blame on someone else.

Supat's lawyer Pholthep Suwannawichian said Samart and Orasa had been arrested in a neighbouring country over drug-related charges and that Supat's farm had been leased to someone else for more than a decade.

Supat was arrested on Saturday in Phetchaburi and escorted to the provincial court yesterday for an initial hearing about his detention. Sawang requested that the suspect not be allowed bail due to his personal connection with senior police investigators. The court heeded his request and ordered that he be held in police custody.

Meanwhile, a Senate committee yesterday questioned the police force's lack of action over Sawang’s complaint about his son and daughter-in-law going missing three years ago.

Nonthaburi police were also accused of doing little after learning that Samart's vehicle was found in an abandoned home on Sept 15. They allegedly only took action after news about the missing couple and their car emerged in the media.

Senate Speaker Nikhom Wairathpanich read out an excerpt of the police statement given to Sawang after the missing vehicle was located: "Only the vehicle is located, but not the people who disappeared."

Nikhom said: "I don't know who the public should turn to in cases like this when there is enough evidence but no action is taken to take down bad guys."

The Police General Hospital in Bangkok, where Supat works, has set up a committee to look into his alleged crimes. Hospital director Pol Lt-General Jongjate Owjatephong said Supat had not caused problems during his 25 years at the hospital. There had been no complaints or disciplinary action so far.

"What has happened is personal business and has nothing to do with his job as a physician. Whether he is involved in the issue depends on evidence," he said.

-- The Nation 2012-09-25

[asiawatcher]

So the doctor is of police ranking and no action was taken when a complaint was lodged and the missing couples vehicle found. Why does that not surprise me?

[Kilgore Trout]

So the doctor is of police ranking and no action was taken when a complaint was lodged and the missing couples vehicle found. Why does that not surprise me?

Doesn't surprise me either, the Thai police are not bothered by murder. In this country it is perfectly fine to murder people as long as you have the right status and connections. This notion is known about Thailand the world over.

I say this in general about Thailand because the common people accept this and refuse to try to change Thailand's reputation by takin any action. What a loss of face for the country; it would seem that Thai people have no morals whatsoever.

If I am wrong, then show me people who stand up and take action, the way the police behave in this situation, red bull, etc. (the list goes on) only proves my point.

[carra]

The more I read things like this the more I believe that what we read is down to the ineptness of a Thai journalist writing in English. A police force CANNOT be this inept surely? Bodies stacked up around the property and the [police report

Police were inspecting 40 guns and home-made bullets found at the home, reportedly used for hunting, to see if they could also be charged for making ammunition without permission.

Here we have Thailands very own Dr Shipton - or worse, and the police are gathering evidence for making ammunition without permission !! And who exactly has claimed the guns are used for hunting? - Dr Mengele? Well he isn't going to say, 'that's my private gun collection for serial killing people that upset me'! is he?

May all the spirits of Columbo, Shaft, Petrocelli, Kojak and 'book em Danno' shine down and help these police secure what appears to be a very simple situation. Man reports his brother the DR's house is full of bodies, it is, witnesses give first hand accounts of murder, Dr is incarcerated, evidence given to public prosecutor, Dr is banged up for the rest of his natural life, all accomplices get some, case closed. Oh and he also loses his police pension! and all trials that he has been a subject matter expert on are reopened. Whew, not that hard, getting the pop corn out though!

Shipman, and we can hardly compare the two

[Nickymaster]

The Police making headlines again.

[lizardtongue]

This is an international high profile case as such it provides an excellent opportunity for the PM to be actively involved, she should oversee the case ensuring that it is fully investigated and that swift and proper justice is administered to ALL those involved, that would include the brother and the wife who it appears withheld/failed to report the fact that a serious crime had been committed.

If investigated correctly it would not surprise me that evidence would come to light of other senior/subordinate officers assisting in a cover up, anyone who has assisted the Dr in anyway albeit knowingly or by neglect of duty (turning a blind eye) should also feel the full force of the Thai judicial system.

A great opportunity for the PM to be seen on the world platform of 'putting her money where her mouth is' actively supporting her anti-corruption campaign of course if she chose this path it would have to be sanctioned by her brother!

But we all know that this opportunity will not be taken.

[Artisi]

This is an international high profile case as such it provides an excellent opportunity for the PM to be actively involved, she should oversee the case ensuring that it is fully investigated and that swift and proper justice is administered to ALL those involved, that would include the brother and the wife who it appears withheld/failed to report the fact that a serious crime had been committed.

If investigated correctly it would not surprise me that evidence would come to light of other senior/subordinate officers assisting in a cover up, anyone who has assisted the Dr in anyway albeit knowingly or by neglect of duty (turning a blind eye) should also feel the full force of the Thai judicial system.

A great opportunity for the PM to be seen on the world platform of 'putting her money where her mouth is' actively supporting her anti-corruption campaign of course if she chose this path it would have to be sanctioned by her brother!

But we all know that this opportunity will not be taken.

think there are far more important issues that the PM should be looking to follow up and correct.