pigeonjake Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) ooooooooooooooops double post sorry Edited September 25, 2012 by pigeonjake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Monna Lisa is supposedly correct, but it has been anglicised into Mona. I have no idea why it was changed to Labelle to suit the Thais though. Whatever Leonardo called it is fine with me. Anyone REALLY know? the Mona Lisa was originally called La Gioconda. thought to be a portrait of Lisa Gherardini, the wife of Francesco del Giocondo. Mona is a contraction of Madonna. I actually knew this, but would like to thank all my friends at wikipedia for having my back and saving mee thee trouble of typing it all out myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rics21 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Its the way most Thais r educated. They learn about names of trees, plants, flowers, animals, etc. Not many Thais have knowledge on topics of world history, Christianity,geography, etc. The da vinci code isnt something for them. Especially with the Thai translation. Sent from my XT910 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Monna Lisa is supposedly correct, but it has been anglicised into Mona. I have no idea why it was changed to Labelle to suit the Thais though. Whatever Leonardo called it is fine with me. Anyone REALLY know? Leonardo called the picture "La Gioconda" (the joyful), as the woman in the pictures name was Lisa del Giocondo The french call her "la Joconde" which is just a transcript from the Italien but has no further meaning Mona Lisa (German version) is a misspeling and should be Monna Lisa (Wife Lisa - Lisa was the wife of Francesco del Giocondo) La Belle - or belle femme - is just what the French call her colloquial I got the same info from Wikipedia but was just too lazy to copy it all to the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 The average Thai? No. As someone else said, you already know the answer. BTW if your wife is not a Christian let her know that Christians believe that Christ died on the Cross and was resurrected three days later and watch her response. My wife fell over laughing. . If I knew the answer I wouldn't have asked the question. I was hoping that someone's Thai partner had already read the book and was able to comment. All religions ask us to suspend credibility, that's why it's called having faith. I'm not sure being resurrected is any more incredulous than walking on water, turning bread into wine etc. More than a few Thai's believe in magic, so turning water into wine would probably be accepted and welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss1960 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Its the way most Thais r educated. They learn about names of trees, plants, flowers, animals, etc. Not many Thais have knowledge on topics of world history, Christianity,geography, etc. The da vinci code isnt something for them. Especially with the Thai translation. Sent from my XT910 using Thaivisa Connect App You can also say it's the way most Westerns are educated... not many have knowledge of topics of Asian history, Buddhism, Maoism, Hinduism etc etc... and knowing how many Americans with average college education won't find Europe on a map... and hearing the bullshit some American politicians talk about (specially those who want to become president of the US of A...)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss1960 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Monna Lisa is supposedly correct, but it has been anglicised into Mona. I have no idea why it was changed to Labelle to suit the Thais though. Whatever Leonardo called it is fine with me. Anyone REALLY know? Leonardo called the picture "La Gioconda" (the joyful), as the woman in the pictures name was Lisa del Giocondo The french call her "la Joconde" which is just a transcript from the Italien but has no further meaning Mona Lisa (German version) is a misspeling and should be Monna Lisa (Wife Lisa - Lisa was the wife of Francesco del Giocondo) La Belle - or belle femme - is just what the French call her colloquial I got the same info from Wikipedia but was just too lazy to copy it all to the post. So I am a nicer person than you because I went through the hassle to copy it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steve down under Posted September 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2012 All religions ask us to suspend credibility, that's why it's called having faith. I'm not sure being resurrected is any more incredulous than walking on water, turning bread into wine etc. Or even water into wine. Agree with your above statement. I can turn Beer into p*ss if thats any help 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) What would the average Thai make of it ?......probably a wrapper to carry their "Prah tort" or "Phad Thai" home. Edited September 25, 2012 by CharlieH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 The average Thai? No. As someone else said, you already know the answer. BTW if your wife is not a Christian let her know that Christians believe that Christ died on the Cross and was resurrected three days later and watch her response. My wife fell over laughing. . If I knew the answer I wouldn't have asked the question. I was hoping that someone's Thai partner had already read the book and was able to comment. All religions ask us to suspend credibility, that's why it's called having faith. I'm not sure being resurrected is any more incredulous than walking on water, turning bread into wine etc. More than a few Thai's believe in magic, so turning water into wine would probably be accepted and welcomed I'd love to be able to do it myself rather than spending 400 baht for 2 litres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 All religions ask us to suspend credibility, that's why it's called having faith. I'm not sure being resurrected is any more incredulous than walking on water, turning bread into wine etc. Or even water into wine. Agree with your above statement. I can turn Beer into p*ss if thats any help Not sure if that qualifies you for Sainthood, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 All religions ask us to suspend credibility, that's why it's called having faith. I'm not sure being resurrected is any more incredulous than walking on water, turning bread into wine etc. Or even water into wine. Agree with your above statement. I can turn Beer into p*ss if thats any help Not sure if that qualifies you for Sainthood, probably not. Definition of an Irishman... A very simple machine which turns Guinness into p*ss Tá brón orm... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman2543 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 i think beautiful lady, is la belle fem,, were is the french men when you need one,,lol La femme Sent from my GT-S5360 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetaroi Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I wish I could remember which film my Thai friend and I went to while I was living there. A "pop" adventure type film, but I remember that there was an underlying Christian theme. After the film I was peppered with questions for an hour, and realized that my Thai friend had missed the entire point of the film because he had gotten too wrapped up in the religios aspect. I kept insisting that knowing the religous aspect was not key to the film, but that got no where. Never again. But it's no different than when my adopted Pakistani son would bring an Indian film home and I would be lost without the context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Monna Lisa is supposedly correct, but it has been anglicised into Mona. I have no idea why it was changed to Labelle to suit the Thais though. Whatever Leonardo called it is fine with me. Anyone REALLY know? I knew a Moaner Lisa once. But no, she couldn't be the subject of a DaVinci painting, certainly not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I agree that the book is way outside of the average Thai's experience or knowledge. The same might be true of Westerners. How many really know the history of Christianity as it is known by most? How many are prepared to ponder the issues in the book? As for the Mona Lisa, I've seen it several times. I subscribe to the school which believes it's Da Vinci in drag. Seriously. Look at all of the self portraits including drawings of Da Vinci you can find and then just look at the facial features and shape of the Mona Lisa. Maybe not, but it looks like it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftpunker Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Just tell her the plot girls gets taken by tidal wind lands in oz meets a lion then a witch trys to get home.JOB DONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattler Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Doubt it, i think its one of the worst films ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamer Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 She may have an advantage not knowing what we were brought up with ? having read the book and watched the movie I spent more time analysing what I'd been told in the past, some parts made me say yes that is a woman at the last supper table other parts just made it a really good read. I do wonder about translated versions if they have the same story line. I agree with you, I also had to google loads of things in order to understand what's going on in the book. Without know-how of Catholic church history, it seems to be that a "regular" Thai person will not be able to understand the story bord of the book. And looking at the differenced in the language concept between English and Thai, I can not imagine that any translation from English to Thai can bring over the story... I assume that if one is fluent in both Thai and English and would read both books, he would probably think that he reads two different stories. I agree I just started Ken Follett's newest, I asked my Mum to send and it was in French, I was lost and when I say lost I gave up after 4 chapters, I asked my Dad for a copy in English- they joys of having bilingual parents, so I'll do the first 4 chapters and confirm things are lost in translation. Now if you had got yourself a Kindle you could have been reading Winter of the World instead of L'hiver Du Monde . great deal for this book on Kindle at present, £4.99 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslim Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Is it a book with actual text or was it turned into comic strips to adapt to the thai market ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David006 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 ..the wife has a copy and has read it twice...don't think it matters if the story line is same as English really...she reads for entertainment as do most people. Read lots of historical novels and realize how ignorant I am of so much world history,religion and geography. Have NOT read the DC. While I'm here does anyone have any URLs for Thai language e books?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 If Thais find Dan Brown confusing they'd be totally screed with Hemingway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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