Chevrolet Cars In Thailand, Why So Many Now ? Suddenly I See Chevrolet Cars Everywhere !

WarpSpeed · October 9, 2012

Jitar are you from America or the UK or somewhere else ? Just wondering if it's poorly made British Fords, the experience of poor reliabilty especially the electrics is a common thing in the UK.

Yes something about electronics and the irony of UK manufactured cars..

muratremix · October 9, 2012

I said this was happening a year ago and everyone here made fun of me and told me I was buying a car nobody would have and was going to sell for nothing.

Chevrolet is putting out the best cars if you compare it to Toyota and Honda. Cruze, Sonic, Captiva, those are better than anything Toyota and Honda have out right now. They have diesel options (except the Sonic) and they're not overpriced like Honda.

I think Chevy and Ford are putting out the best cars now.

Honda is overpriced? Civic price is more or less same with Cruze. Of course if you compare Apples to Oranges (Civic vs Sonic) well..

John 1 · October 9, 2012

They have made butt ass ugly cars in the past. The new captiva is

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

much better than the last model.

The last model reminded me of a woman with a wide load ass for some reason, the shape of the back was terrible.

The new pick ups also look much better this time around.

So in looks, they have improved.

Yes and the Honda CVR is so boring and ugly Toyota Camry same. It's refreshing to see some good looking vehicles coming from Suzuki, Ford, Mazda

ThaiBob · October 9, 2012

Just saw the new Ford Focus at the dealership here is Pattaya. 15% down for a farang and financing available, no Thai to guarantee required. Beautiful styling and all the bells and whistles. The Chevy Cruze looks nicer to my eye than the comparable Hondas and Toyotas, maybe it's just me.

arthurwait · October 9, 2012

I said this was happening a year ago and everyone here made fun of me and told me I was buying a car nobody would have and was going to sell for nothing.

Chevrolet is putting out the best cars if you compare it to Toyota and Honda. Cruze, Sonic, Captiva, those are better than anything Toyota and Honda have out right now. They have diesel options (except the Sonic) and they're not overpriced like Honda.

I think Chevy and Ford are putting out the best cars now.

It's very few people in the whole scheme of things buying them and IMO they are buying them for the previously said reasons, chepaer to finance and short waiting list.

The reasons for peoples choice of new car are quite often different for their choice of secondhand car. They maybe more fun new, but a few years down the line reliabilty could well come into play. From experience of Fords it's really going to come into play. Way too many journeys ended at the side of the road and way too many weekends were spent fixing the dam_n car for me to ever really consider buying ford again. Fun to drive for a sedan yes, but the parts quality and electrics are just rubbish.

Will people buy a 3 or 5 or 7 year old Ford or Chevy instead of a Honda or Toyota or any Japenese car. Only time will tell, but I suspect not unless it is very cheap.

You know in the grand scheme of things the door is open and people are walking through it, that's a game changer that will stick and grow if the product lives up to it's hype, so now it's up to the Ford/Chevy dealerships and the manufacturers to take full advantage..

With cheap parts and repair costs.

thaicbr · October 9, 2012

Jitar are you from America or the UK or somewhere else ? Just wondering if it's poorly made British Fords, the experience of poor reliabilty especially the electrics is a common thing in the UK.

really!!!! i have had Fords with no problems. same as Vauxhaul.....

thaicbr · October 9, 2012

I said this was happening a year ago and everyone here made fun of me and told me I was buying a car nobody would have and was going to sell for nothing.

Chevrolet is putting out the best cars if you compare it to Toyota and Honda. Cruze, Sonic, Captiva, those are better than anything Toyota and Honda have out right now. They have diesel options (except the Sonic) and they're not overpriced like Honda.

I think Chevy and Ford are putting out the best cars now.

It's very few people in the whole scheme of things buying them and IMO they are buying them for the previously said reasons, chepaer to finance and short waiting list.

The reasons for peoples choice of new car are quite often different for their choice of secondhand car. They maybe more fun new, but a few years down the line reliabilty could well come into play. From experience of Fords it's really going to come into play. Way too many journeys ended at the side of the road and way too many weekends were spent fixing the dam_n car for me to ever really consider buying ford again. Fun to drive for a sedan yes, but the parts quality and electrics are just rubbish.

Will people buy a 3 or 5 or 7 year old Ford or Chevy instead of a Honda or Toyota or any Japenese car. Only time will tell, but I suspect not unless it is very cheap.

You know in the grand scheme of things the door is open and people are walking through it, that's a game changer that will stick and grow if the product lives up to it's hype, so now it's up to the Ford/Chevy dealerships and the manufacturers to take full advantage..

With cheap parts and repair costs.

Well they aint expensive.. They are now all made in Thailand.. whereas before the Focus was imported from the Philippines.

Ok. you dont like Ford or Chevy.. we get it.. others on the other hand do.

thaicbr · October 9, 2012

I said this was happening a year ago and everyone here made fun of me and told me I was buying a car nobody would have and was going to sell for nothing.

Chevrolet is putting out the best cars if you compare it to Toyota and Honda. Cruze, Sonic, Captiva, those are better than anything Toyota and Honda have out right now. They have diesel options (except the Sonic) and they're not overpriced like Honda.

I think Chevy and Ford are putting out the best cars now.

Honda is overpriced? Civic price is more or less same with Cruze. Of course if you compare Apples to Oranges (Civic vs Sonic) well..

ummmm it's City vs Sonic (saloon) or Jazz vs Sonic (hatchback) actually

likewise · October 9, 2012

Got the 4 x 4 2.8 LTZ Colorado, great ride, good torque, good for off road work and stuff .

Jitar · October 9, 2012

Jitar are you from America or the UK or somewhere else ? Just wondering if it's poorly made British Fords, the experience of poor reliabilty especially the electrics is a common thing in the UK.

Somewhere else mate....

I haven't had a UK built Ford, only Thai built Rangers, a Philippine made Escape and Australian Falcon V8s and an old cheap rusty Fairlane (many years ago). None of them let me down but like I said, maybe I have been lucky. I have "experienced" the joys of old style UK electrics with Series 3 Land Rovers and a Lotus Elan.

thaicruze · October 9, 2012

I said this was happening a year ago and everyone here made fun of me and told me I was buying a car nobody would have and was going to sell for nothing.

Chevrolet is putting out the best cars if you compare it to Toyota and Honda. Cruze, Sonic, Captiva, those are better than anything Toyota and Honda have out right now. They have diesel options (except the Sonic) and they're not overpriced like Honda.

I think Chevy and Ford are putting out the best cars now.

It's very few people in the whole scheme of things buying them and IMO they are buying them for the previously said reasons, chepaer to finance and short waiting list.

The reasons for peoples choice of new car are quite often different for their choice of secondhand car. They maybe more fun new, but a few years down the line reliabilty could well come into play. From experience of Fords it's really going to come into play. Way too many journeys ended at the side of the road and way too many weekends were spent fixing the dam_n car for me to ever really consider buying ford again. Fun to drive for a sedan yes, but the parts quality and electrics are just rubbish.

Will people buy a 3 or 5 or 7 year old Ford or Chevy instead of a Honda or Toyota or any Japenese car. Only time will tell, but I suspect not unless it is very cheap.

Well. Old Chevy and New Chevy are totally different cars, and surely a Cruze will be more valuable than an Optra, but we can take a look right now.

2005 Optra 1.8L LT 395,000 baht

http://www.one2car.com/CHEVROLET_OPTRA/B10550637

2005 Toyota Altis 1.8L E 435,000 baht.

http://www.one2car.com/TOYOTA_COROLLA/F27120094

40,000 more.

aussiebebe · October 9, 2012

I think the real reason is that Chevrolet are selling better cars now, the Cruze and the Trailblazer have some good selling points over their rivals (not the resale value). My wife still has her Chevrolet Aveo from 2009 which is some sort of re-badged Daewoo from GM-Korea; she only bought it for the comfy seats and interest free financing - they were offering this even back then so it doesn't explain the recent increase in presence of Chevrolet cars. My wife has asked about trade-in value and the Aveo has depreciated more than a Vios or City, but despite it's flaws (ugly and underpowered) it has been bullet-proof reliable up the 70,000km or so that it's now at with regular servicing.

SteeleJoe · October 9, 2012

Odd, I had exactly the same thought as the OP as I was driving to work yesterday.

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anon210 · October 9, 2012

I said this was happening a year ago and everyone here made fun of me and told me I was buying a car nobody would have and was going to sell for nothing.

Chevrolet is putting out the best cars if you compare it to Toyota and Honda. Cruze, Sonic, Captiva, those are better than anything Toyota and Honda have out right now. They have diesel options (except the Sonic) and they're not overpriced like Honda.

I think Chevy and Ford are putting out the best cars now.

It's very few people in the whole scheme of things buying them and IMO they are buying them for the previously said reasons, chepaer to finance and short waiting list.

The reasons for peoples choice of new car are quite often different for their choice of secondhand car. They maybe more fun new, but a few years down the line reliabilty could well come into play. From experience of Fords it's really going to come into play. Way too many journeys ended at the side of the road and way too many weekends were spent fixing the dam_n car for me to ever really consider buying ford again. Fun to drive for a sedan yes, but the parts quality and electrics are just rubbish.

Will people buy a 3 or 5 or 7 year old Ford or Chevy instead of a Honda or Toyota or any Japenese car. Only time will tell, but I suspect not unless it is very cheap.

Well. Old Chevy and New Chevy are totally different cars, and surely a Cruze will be more valuable than an Optra, but we can take a look right now.

2005 Optra 1.8L LT 395,000 baht

http://www.one2car.c...OPTRA/B10550637

2005 Toyota Altis 1.8L E 435,000 baht.

http://www.one2car.c...ROLLA/F27120094

40,000 more.

And what you fail to mention here, is their original selling price.

Jitar · October 10, 2012

They were both around 900,000 baht new weren't they? Chev may have had better discounts, maybe?

2 examples is a pretty small sample. 2005 Optra 1.8 average asking prices are probably a bit lower, more like 350k, but they are not the most popular car. There are plenty of 2005 Corollas advertised for ~400k and Civics are a bit above that. The Chev Optra has depreciated quicker but not so much to get too upset about.

anon210 · October 10, 2012

They were both around 900,000 baht new weren't they? Chev may have had better discounts, maybe?

2 examples is a pretty small sample. 2005 Optra 1.8 average asking prices are probably a bit lower, more like 350k, but they are not the most popular car. There are plenty of 2005 Corollas advertised for ~400k and Civics are a bit above that. The Chev Optra has depreciated quicker but not so much to get too upset about.

From accounts, the Optra (actually a Daewoo) was a cheap and reliable car, just not very popular in Thailand. I guess the price of second-hand might reflect the reliability of the car, as there are few complaints on that point. Obviously, not an American product.

WarpSpeed · October 10, 2012

Maybe news like this has an effect on the new sales of American cars, the shoe is on the other foot lately..

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/honda-s-string-of-recalls-to-tarnish-maker%E2%80%99s-quality-reputation-.html

John 1 · October 10, 2012

Maybe news like this has an effect on the new sales of American cars, the shoe is on the other foot lately..

http://autos.yahoo.c...eputation-.html

Why would it make any difference to sales in Thailand the story is US related.

WarpSpeed · October 10, 2012

I knew someone would be silly enough to overlook the impact such things have on the WORLD market. Anyone who thinks this is exclusive to Thailand is naive, some customers are savvy enough to understand that Thailand is not just a market unto it's selves and nor is Honda or any manufacturer meaning it reflects poorly on Honda regardless of the market and is ALWAYS a potential in EVERY market smoke-fire and all that.. And Chevy's not going to get any gold stars either or help their interests any with stories like this..

http://autos.yahoo.c...-152707580.html

In the end it looks like GM may be coming around but their initial reaction BEFORE it went to the net was less then impressive..

yasorab · October 10, 2012

Beats me how anyone can say that GM products are crap. Have you forgotten that ISUZU are also part of the GM empire and the D-Max and Chev trucks share the same platform !! Regarding the other products in the range , The Captiva is one of the only car based SUV available in Thailand as the others are built around truck frames ! The Cruze is and has been a success all over the world and is in fact one of a very few European styled cars available in Asia, (other than the Mazda 3) ! The new little car is ground breaking and the Trailblazer filles the hole left by the outdated and ugly Isuzu MU7. All in all a great range of vehicles at realistic prices, good availability and good finance packages to boot. Perhaps that is why people like them over out dated and ugly compitition !

stevenl · October 10, 2012

Have you forgotten that ISUZU are also part of the GM empire

I though that was once the case, but that already since quite a few years Isuzu is independent. It still co-operates with GM on certain fronts, but not part of GM empire afaik.

arthurwait · October 10, 2012

I said this was happening a year ago and everyone here made fun of me and told me I was buying a car nobody would have and was going to sell for nothing.

Chevrolet is putting out the best cars if you compare it to Toyota and Honda. Cruze, Sonic, Captiva, those are better than anything Toyota and Honda have out right now. They have diesel options (except the Sonic) and they're not overpriced like Honda.

I think Chevy and Ford are putting out the best cars now.

It's very few people in the whole scheme of things buying them and IMO they are buying them for the previously said reasons, chepaer to finance and short waiting list.

The reasons for peoples choice of new car are quite often different for their choice of secondhand car. They maybe more fun new, but a few years down the line reliabilty could well come into play. From experience of Fords it's really going to come into play. Way too many journeys ended at the side of the road and way too many weekends were spent fixing the dam_n car for me to ever really consider buying ford again. Fun to drive for a sedan yes, but the parts quality and electrics are just rubbish.

Will people buy a 3 or 5 or 7 year old Ford or Chevy instead of a Honda or Toyota or any Japenese car. Only time will tell, but I suspect not unless it is very cheap.

Well. Old Chevy and New Chevy are totally different cars, and surely a Cruze will be more valuable than an Optra, but we can take a look right now.

2005 Optra 1.8L LT 395,000 baht

http://www.one2car.c...OPTRA/B10550637

2005 Toyota Altis 1.8L E 435,000 baht.

http://www.one2car.c...ROLLA/F27120094

40,000 more.

And what you fail to mention here, is their original selling price.

And that they are just asking prices not what someone has paid.

arthurwait · October 10, 2012

They were both around 900,000 baht new weren't they? Chev may have had better discounts, maybe?

2 examples is a pretty small sample. 2005 Optra 1.8 average asking prices are probably a bit lower, more like 350k, but they are not the most popular car. There are plenty of 2005 Corollas advertised for ~400k and Civics are a bit above that. The Chev Optra has depreciated quicker but not so much to get too upset about.

Where they made in the country back then or subject to import tax ?

anon210 · October 10, 2012

I knew someone would be silly enough to overlook the impact such things have on the WORLD market. Anyone who thinks this is exclusive to Thailand is naive, some customers are savvy enough to understand that Thailand is not just a market unto it's selves and nor is Honda or any manufacturer meaning it reflects poorly on Honda regardless of the market and is ALWAYS a potential in EVERY market smoke-fire and all that.. And Chevy's not going to get any gold stars either or help their interests any with stories like this..

http://autos.yahoo.c...-152707580.html

In the end it looks like GM may be coming around but their initial reaction BEFORE it went to the net was less then impressive..

Then what is the effect on Toyota's market shares of this event?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/toyota-issues-global-recall-for-743m-vehicles-2012-10-10

Toyota Motor Corp. said Wednesday it is recalling 7.43 million vehicles globally due to a potential fire risk with power window switches, including 2.47 million vehicles sold in the U.S.
The recall affects cars made between July 2005 and May 2010--including the Camry, Corolla and RAV4 SUV--sold in Japan, North America, Europe, China, the Middle East and Oceania, the company said.

Japan's biggest auto maker called it the largest recall ever for a single part, although it is second to the 7.7 million vehicles Toyota recalled worldwide in 2009 and 2010 targeting floor mats. The company maintains that wasn't technically a recall in some markets, but rather, a "safety campaign."

WarpSpeed · October 10, 2012

You tell me? Not sure why the smilie? Are you suggesting it doesn't effect them in any way? Toyota and Honda's sales and market share have been lagging & dwindling for some time now which is why VW was able to overtake them in sales along with Vw's control interest in Porsche finally being achieved.. It's clear even here based on this thread and observations that they have competition now even here.

As the world goes, so goes Thailand......................Eventually..............................Like a kicking screaming child.....

WarpSpeed · October 10, 2012

Have you forgotten that ISUZU are also part of the GM empire

I though that was once the case, but that already since quite a few years Isuzu is independent. It still co-operates with GM on certain fronts, but not part of GM empire afaik.

Yep been separate for about 15 years now at least with only some technology sharing..

keemapoot · October 10, 2012

Have you forgotten that ISUZU are also part of the GM empire

I though that was once the case, but that already since quite a few years Isuzu is independent. It still co-operates with GM on certain fronts, but not part of GM empire afaik.

Yep been separate for about 15 years now at least with only some technology sharing..

Maybe I'm mistaken, but didn't MRO once say that all the Isuzu trucks in Thailand are made at the Chevy factory?

WarpSpeed · October 10, 2012

Have you forgotten that ISUZU are also part of the GM empire

I though that was once the case, but that already since quite a few years Isuzu is independent. It still co-operates with GM on certain fronts, but not part of GM empire afaik.

Yep been separate for about 15 years now at least with only some technology sharing..

Maybe I'm mistaken, but didn't MRO once say that all the Isuzu trucks in Thailand are made at the Chevy factory?

Some manufacturers share manufacturing space and equipment to cut costs especially the smaller manufacturers but that is more like a lease deal it's not direct involvement..

WarpSpeed · October 10, 2012

I knew someone would be silly enough to overlook the impact such things have on the WORLD market. Anyone who thinks this is exclusive to Thailand is naive, some customers are savvy enough to understand that Thailand is not just a market unto it's selves and nor is Honda or any manufacturer meaning it reflects poorly on Honda regardless of the market and is ALWAYS a potential in EVERY market smoke-fire and all that.. And Chevy's not going to get any gold stars either or help their interests any with stories like this..

http://autos.yahoo.c...-152707580.html

In the end it looks like GM may be coming around but their initial reaction BEFORE it went to the net was less then impressive..

Then what is the effect on Toyota's market shares of this event?

http://www.marketwat...cles-2012-10-10

Toyota Motor Corp. said Wednesday it is recalling 7.43 million vehicles globally due to a potential fire risk with power window switches, including 2.47 million vehicles sold in the U.S.
The recall affects cars made between July 2005 and May 2010--including the Camry, Corolla and RAV4 SUV--sold in Japan, North America, Europe, China, the Middle East and Oceania, the company said.

Japan's biggest auto maker called it the largest recall ever for a single part, although it is second to the 7.7 million vehicles Toyota recalled worldwide in 2009 and 2010 targeting floor mats. The company maintains that wasn't technically a recall in some markets, but rather, a "safety campaign."

Reading again maybe I've mistaken your post as being sarcastic instead of agreement..Or maybe not.. Who knows? But it's a fact too that they share parts, suppliers and manufacturing across the models and don't manufacture entirely new parts in every or any given assembly plant.. Ironic I posted that original post and then within 24 hours both manufacturers announce massive recalls...

transam · October 10, 2012

That doesn't sound right to me.

Does the Chevy and Isuzu truck have the same chassis, engine and rubbing gear. ?

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