Likely About-Turn On Thaksin's Passport Seen As A Move To Save The Govt

[ballpoint]

Not the same.

The thai court verdict judged Taksin S as guilty of a" criminal" offence.

Interpol judged the thai court verdict against Taksin S as "Political".

No they didn't, as has been clearly shown on this thread! There was no translated request for Interpol to act on. Interpol at no point said that the verdict was political.

You were misinformed, you were disseminating mis-truth (rather ironic given your username) and now you have been educated. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you didn't know what you were talking about, but it's morally and ethically wrong to spread misinformation when you know that it isn't correct. Please don't do it again.

What!, from a military proxy who would stop at nothing to get Taksin S?

The only credible reason for being no translated request for interpol to act on, is because the military proxy itself knew full well it was a political verdict and any request on that basis was going nowhere.

Maybe they didnt want him back, so everyone is happy he is not in the country.

you are now contradicting yourself.....you said Interpol judged the case, now your saying it was the military proxy...make your mind up

I shall write this slowly....you are grasping at straws

As the old song goes "you can't hide those lying eyes".

[Ricardo]

Not the same.

The thai court verdict judged Taksin S as guilty of a" criminal" offence.

Interpol judged the thai court verdict against Taksin S as "Political".

No they didn't, as has been clearly shown on this thread! There was no translated request for Interpol to act on. Interpol at no point said that the verdict was political.

You were misinformed, you were disseminating mis-truth (rather ironic given your username) and now you have been educated. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you didn't know what you were talking about, but it's morally and ethically wrong to spread misinformation when you know that it isn't correct. Please don't do it again.

Well then, lets examine your point of view there. " There was no translated request for Interpol to act on"

What!, from a military proxy who would stop at nothing to get Taksin S?

The only credible reason for being no translated request for interpol to act on, is because the military proxy itself knew full well it was a political verdict and any request on that basis was going nowhere.

"The only credible reason"

Beg to differ, it's always far more likely that 'cock-up and incompetence' is responsible, especially if the bureaucrats suspect that the Big Boss or his nominees may someday return (as indeed they have), who can blame them for not sticking their necks out and doing their jobs ?

[hellodolly]

Will you listen! I am typing slooooowly! Interpol are a multi-national police organization that will if at all possible arrest anyone that has had an INTERNATIONAL arrest warrant issued on them and where the Government of the issuing country make a request to Interpol to help apprehend the individual. Interpol are NOT part of the decision making process. Perhaps if you would not slavishly stick to a point even when I am sure you can see it is clearly wrong, then you wouldn't get banned as much as you do. You must have a hell of a lot of email accounts by now.

Oh stop getting your knckers in a twist....

Just accept the Democrats did not want Thaksin back in the country, and the current government has no inclination to bring him back unless he can avoid any further charges and have his current convictions and arrests nullified......in short his chance of ever returning is virtually nil, hence, how he travels, and what country passport he travels on is rather immaterial....but it gives the democrats some purpose in life I guess.....

There was a point to your post.

[hellodolly]

Not the same.

The thai court verdict judged Taksin S as guilty of a" criminal" offence.

Interpol judged the thai court verdict against Taksin S as "Political".

No they didn't, as has been clearly shown on this thread! There was no translated request for Interpol to act on. Interpol at no point said that the verdict was political.

You were misinformed, you were disseminating mis-truth (rather ironic given your username) and now you have been educated. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you didn't know what you were talking about, but it's morally and ethically wrong to spread misinformation when you know that it isn't correct. Please don't do it again.

Well then, lets examine your point of view there. " There was no translated request for Interpol to act on"

What!, from a military proxy who would stop at nothing to get Taksin S?

The only credible reason for being no translated request for interpol to act on, is because the military proxy itself knew full well it was a political verdict and any request on that basis was going nowhere.

Why don't you post under your last user name. Were you a troll on it all so.

[AleG]

Not the same.

The thai court verdict judged Taksin S as guilty of a" criminal" offence.

Interpol judged the thai court verdict against Taksin S as "Political".

No they didn't, as has been clearly shown on this thread! There was no translated request for Interpol to act on. Interpol at no point said that the verdict was political.

You were misinformed, you were disseminating mis-truth (rather ironic given your username) and now you have been educated. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you didn't know what you were talking about, but it's morally and ethically wrong to spread misinformation when you know that it isn't correct. Please don't do it again.

I´m thinking of Inigo Montoya... "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means"

[yoshiwara]

Not the same.

The thai court verdict judged Taksin S as guilty of a" criminal" offence.

Interpol judged the thai court verdict against Taksin S as "Political".

I read about this. That Thaksin's supporters want him to be seen as the inheritor of the tradition of the historic heroic figure King Taksin, so they deliberately use the royal spelling of the name.

It is all a bit pathetic except for the fact that Thaksin does have absolutist tendencies. One thing such Thaksin courtiers cannot really have much truck with is their fellow forum supporters who chime in with the 'its not about Thaksin' mantra, unless it can be used as a ploy to bring him back. Lying and cheating towards an objective perfectly acceptable and the loss of a small 'h' just one small step.

[dickyknee]

Not the same.

I know "not the same", that was my point.

[Crushdepth]

I agree with the sentiment but if Thaksin has to wait to return only after the VIP exits the stage, then Thaksin loses face big, big time.

Agreed and he wants to ride back in here as the messiah of Thailand with a squeaky clean reputation, absolved of all wrong doing...his ego will not accept anything less..

Maybe, but I think he may also have legitimate concerns about lead poisoning.

[473geo]

Will you listen! I am typing slooooowly! Interpol are a multi-national police organization that will if at all possible arrest anyone that has had an INTERNATIONAL arrest warrant issued on them and where the Government of the issuing country make a request to Interpol to help apprehend the individual. Interpol are NOT part of the decision making process. Perhaps if you would not slavishly stick to a point even when I am sure you can see it is clearly wrong, then you wouldn't get banned as much as you do. You must have a hell of a lot of email accounts by now.

Oh stop getting your knckers in a twist....

Just accept the Democrats did not want Thaksin back in the country, and the current government has no inclination to bring him back unless he can avoid any further charges and have his current convictions and arrests nullified......in short his chance of ever returning is virtually nil, hence, how he travels, and what country passport he travels on is rather immaterial....but it gives the democrats some purpose in life I guess.....

There was a point to your post.

"accept the Democrats did not want Thaksin back in the country"

"the current government has no inclination to bring him back unless he can avoid any further charges and have his current convictions and arrests nullified"

"in short his chance of ever returning is virtually nil"

"how he travels, and what country passport he travels on is rather immaterial"

"it gives the democrats some purpose in life I guess"

not really

[MAJIC]

There is no way round it. Thaksin is a wanted criminal.

It is a somewhat confusing conundrum.

The thai judicial system says he is, but the International judicial system (Interpol) says he isn't

And where and when did Interpol say he isn't?

Edited October 20, 2012 by MAJIC

[animatic]

There is no way round it. Thaksin is a wanted criminal.

It is a somewhat confusing conundrum.

The thai judicial system says he is, but the International judicial system (Interpol) says he isn't

And where and when did Interpol say he isn't?

Precisely the point, Interpol needs not say it at all.

He is wanted in Thailand and that is enough for it to be fact.

[473geo]

There is no way round it. Thaksin is a wanted criminal.

It is a somewhat confusing conundrum.

The thai judicial system says he is, but the International judicial system (Interpol) says he isn't

And where and when did Interpol say he isn't?

Precisely the point, Interpol needs not say it at all.

He is wanted in Thailand and that is enough for it to be fact.

Actually a totally insignificant point.......

The thread being about the fact that the government fearing reprisals of subsequent legal proceedings are not going to relinquish their tenure over something as minor as which passport Thaksin travels on.....no matter who tries to make a big issue of the 'loss of face'........well done the government

Edited October 20, 2012 by 473geo

[MAJIC]

Yes well done PTP smart move....one might think somebody from the Nation is reading my posts

Correcting Gross Errors in Thai Law (to save their skin) ,is no call for congratulating an inept Government

[473geo]

Yes well done PTP smart move....one might think somebody from the Nation is reading my posts

Correcting Gross Errors in Thai Law (to save their skin) ,is no call for congratulating an inept Government

Admitted probably a first for Thailand....but surely the way forward...admitting and correcting errors...of course this was only a minor 'error' except in the eyes of some poor unfortunates who had readily expected it would explode into something big enough to provide an excuse for the judiciary to remove the elected government

[siampolee]

One can only presume that in the event of a political sin being committed by any members of the P.T.P. along with the ardent supporters of the convicted ( under one of his own sponsored regimes) bail jumping renegades supporters they all gather round and have to say , ''Hail Thaksin'' rather than Hail Mary, number of times to be absolved of their misdeeds.

There will indeed be a long and noisy chorus of Hail Thaksins when these grubby little political corrupt persons are removed from power and the money pit they have their grubby little hands in.

.

[Crushdepth]

Will you listen! I am typing slooooowly! Interpol are a multi-national police organization that will if at all possible arrest anyone that has had an INTERNATIONAL arrest warrant issued on them and where the Government of the issuing country make a request to Interpol to help apprehend the individual. Interpol are NOT part of the decision making process. Perhaps if you would not slavishly stick to a point even when I am sure you can see it is clearly wrong, then you wouldn't get banned as much as you do. You must have a hell of a lot of email accounts by now.

Oh stop getting your knckers in a twist....

Just accept the Democrats did not want Thaksin back in the country, and the current government has no inclination to bring him back unless he can avoid any further charges and have his current convictions and arrests nullified......in short his chance of ever returning is virtually nil, hence, how he travels, and what country passport he travels on is rather immaterial....but it gives the democrats some purpose in life I guess.....

You could probably expand this to cover anyone that thinks corrupt politicians belong in jail.

[animatic]

quote name='yoshiwara' timestamp='1350284358' post='5754889'

There is no way round it. Thaksin is a wanted criminal.

It is a somewhat confusing conundrum.

The thai judicial system says he is, but the International judicial system (Interpol) says he isn't

And where and when did Interpol say he isn't?

Precisely the point, Interpol needs not say it at all.

He is wanted in Thailand and that is enough for it to be fact.

Actually a totally insignificant point.......

The thread being about the fact that the government fearing reprisals of subsequent legal proceedings are not going to relinquish their tenure over something as minor as which passport Thaksin travels on.....no matter who tries to make a big issue of the 'loss of face'........well done the government

Yes, being wanted by the legal system of Thailand is considered inconsequential to Thaksin and his partisans. But in real life it actual comes with long term consequences and loss of face never recovered from, no matter how many times people try to say it doesn't matter. It does, no matter what you say, or anyone else.