djvolak Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 So getting broadcast on TV telling your lackeys to burn it down is not Orchestrating violence. Ha! Good luck with that complaint. I am sure his sister will jump all over getting that straightened out. Wow. Arrogance will undo that man yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 So getting broadcast on TV telling your lackeys to burn it down is not Orchestrating violence. Ha! Good luck with that complaint. I am sure his sister will jump all over getting that straightened out. Wow. Arrogance will undo that man yet. I think you'll find it already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 "No, I don't agree with you. I will not. Your hero is nothing but a crook, a wanted fugitive. He is a coward, and a liar. Nothing you will say can make me think that he deserves the same rights as any other Thai, nothing. " In response to salt and pepper, quoted above. You don't believe that all Thais deserve the same rights ?? How sad for you. But to answer your points, apart from the fact he is not my hero,he's no more a crook than many of the other politicos from ANY of the other parties, AV and the Dems included. He's clearly not a wanted fugitive because no efforts have ever been made to bring him back to Thailand and obviously the powers that be prefer him out of the country. Where is your evidence that he is a coward ?? Seems quite ballsy to me to take on the status quo as he so clearly did.( and little more of that can be discussed ) As for being a liar that seems to go with the country, culture and nepotism from the top down for the last 60 years, does it not ?? So, because everyone else lies, it justifies Thaksin's endemic lying? That's logic befitting a 5 year old. Thaksin is incapable of not telling a lie. From "I'm through with politics" on to "I just want to take my family to the Olympics, I'll come right back, honest," to "I didn't know there was any money in that donut box. I'm appalled that anyone would even presume I might bribe a judge!" .....the list could go on for pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZEMADE Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well actually it is Thaksin's Lawyer that is filing the complaint, not Thaksin, and why not file a complaint, as everyone in Government seems to do it, so why not jump on the band wagon. Plus Thaksin's Lawyer is throwing a bit of S**t back onto the Democrats. Isn't this how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthEyes Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) Thaksin S is quite justifiably saying to his undemocratic accusers, in front of the watching world comunities "Put up or shut up". I rather suspect they will shut up. Edited October 16, 2012 by TruthEyes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Well actually it is Thaksin's Lawyer that is filing the complaint, not Thaksin, and why not file a complaint, as everyone in Government seems to do it, so why not jump on the band wagon. Plus Thaksin's Lawyer is throwing a bit of S**t back onto the Democrats. Isn't this how it works. T's attorney is paid by T, so doe's T's bidding. If T asked him to eat a plate of donkey dung in a public square, Noppadon, would ask for seconds. Thaksin S is quite justifiably saying to his undemocratic accusers, in front of the watching world comunities "Put up or shut up". I rather suspect they will shut up. It would be good to see some qualified evidence re; the MIB and T's funding of them, and of the Red Shirt riots in general. Unfortunately, with his sister in the PM's seat and all the brown-nosers around, solid evidence won't be allowed to surface. Democrats will want to speak up, and reveal the rotten underpinings of the Thaksin's involvement. Though some of T's apologists would like the Dems to 'shut up', they'll do anything but, if given the chance. T may have just dug himself deeper in doo doo by this latest lawsuit, in a long trail of failed suits he's slapped on anyone with the audacity to not praise him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltandpepper Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 "No, I don't agree with you. I will not. Your hero is nothing but a crook, a wanted fugitive. He is a coward, and a liar. Nothing you will say can make me think that he deserves the same rights as any other Thai, nothing. " In response to salt and pepper, quoted above. You don't believe that all Thais deserve the same rights ?? How sad for you. But to answer your points, apart from the fact he is not my hero,he's no more a crook than many of the other politicos from ANY of the other parties, AV and the Dems included. He's clearly not a wanted fugitive because no efforts have ever been made to bring him back to Thailand and obviously the powers that be prefer him out of the country. Where is your evidence that he is a coward ?? Seems quite ballsy to me to take on the status quo as he so clearly did.( and little more of that can be discussed ) As for being a liar that seems to go with the country, culture and nepotism from the top down for the last 60 years, does it not ?? How come that I answer to Carra, and you come back to me with (from your quote above) apart from the fact he is not my hero ??? Are you Carra? And Philw at the same time? You got your ID mixed up ? Anyway........... Your hero can not be bad in your eyes, because it is YOUR hero..... No point discussing with you / Carra Have a good day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 An outlaw/fugitive seeking satisfaction via the judicial system? Who is he getting his advice from, Jatuporn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaddeus Posted October 17, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2012 An outlaw/fugitive seeking satisfaction via the judicial system? Who is he getting his advice from, Jatuporn? Actually, I think it's Gollum "we hates them little democratsies, they stole the precious from us" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 An outlaw/fugitive seeking satisfaction via the judicial system? Who is he getting his advice from, Jatuporn? Actually, I think it's Gollum "we hates them little democratsies, they stole the precious from us" Nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 begin removed ... Where is your evidence that he is a coward ?? Seems quite ballsy to me to take on the status quo as he so clearly did.( and little more of that can be discussed ) As for being a liar that seems to go with the country, culture and nepotism from the top down for the last 60 years, does it not ?? K. Thaksin stood really firmly behind his red-shirts, "I will come to fight with you, only not now because I have to go shopping with my daughters first". Nothing to do with being a coward of course. So 'being a liar' goes with the country? Well, everything OK then. No need for progress Thaksin's famous words when addressing his red shirts: If the army uses force to disperse you I will come to Bangkok and fight with you. I am very close to you, can be there very soon.... ....a few days and many casualties later....my people told me that it is not save for me to come to Thailand now. Please continue your struggle (fight) without me. You are in my heart and I will be thinking of you (and my money)! Actions of a REAL coward and liar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Thaksin's famous words when addressing his red shirts: If the army uses force to disperse you I will come to Bangkok and fight with you. I am very close to you, can be there very soon.... ....a few days and many casualties later....my people told me that it is not save for me to come to Thailand now. Please continue your struggle (fight) without me. You are in my heart and I will be thinking of you (and my money)! Actions of a REAL coward and liar. At least he didn't end his speech with singing 'My Way' .....there'd be puke all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 "No, I don't agree with you. I will not. Your hero is nothing but a crook, a wanted fugitive. He is a coward, and a liar. Nothing you will say can make me think that he deserves the same rights as any other Thai, nothing. " In response to salt and pepper, quoted above. You don't believe that all Thais deserve the same rights ?? How sad for you. But to answer your points, apart from the fact he is not my hero,he's no more a crook than many of the other politicos from ANY of the other parties, AV and the Dems included. He's clearly not a wanted fugitive because no efforts have ever been made to bring him back to Thailand and obviously the powers that be prefer him out of the country. Where is your evidence that he is a coward ?? Seems quite ballsy to me to take on the status quo as he so clearly did.( and little more of that can be discussed ) As for being a liar that seems to go with the country, culture and nepotism from the top down for the last 60 years, does it not ?? How come that I answer to Carra, and you come back to me with (from your quote above) apart from the fact he is not my hero ??? Are you Carra? And Philw at the same time? You got your ID mixed up ? Anyway........... Your hero can not be bad in your eyes, because it is YOUR hero..... No point discussing with you / Carra Have a good day! You are hopelessly wrong but never mind, no offence taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 He should come back and file a defamation suit in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 An outlaw/fugitive seeking satisfaction via the judicial system? Who is he getting his advice from, Jatuporn? Actually, I think it's Gollum "we hates them little democratsies, they stole the precious from us" Nice one It was a direct quote from "Lord of the Bling" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Presume all those allegations it must be hurting. He is starting to throw his toys out of the pram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrysum Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Thank you all for some great posts... guess a fugitive from justice can do what he wants, if they have enough money... Remember blood is thicker than water..... First of all why doesn't he return and face charges, if he so is great..... If there is an International warrant out for his arrest, I see a sense of complicity to those that harbor him...... Deport his ass and send him back to face charges, or is he hiding something...... As for Yingluck? another pretty face adds to the disgrace..... Kerry . Just my humble opinion...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiHadOrange Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Actually, Thaksin may have a pretty decent chance of winning this suit. While few would deny that he funded the protests, I suspect that they would have a hard time tracing the money back to him personally. At best, they might find some bag-men who went to Dubai & returned with suitcases full of money. However, that would probably be circumstantial evidence at best, as anyone who started saying anything that was too incriminating would probably be 'Sae Danged'. Also, if my understanding of Thai defamation law is correct, he doesn't have to prove that what was said about him was false. He just has to show that it damaged his reputation. When it comes to Thai defamation law, the true is no defence... which is probably why Thaksin loves to use it! I doubt that Abhisit and Co. could anyhow prove their allegations. So Thaksin will probably win. Are your sure with your understanding of the Thai defamation law (true is no defence) or is that something your read on Thaivisa a while ago? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I may have missed the latest developments. Pray tell, did the legal representative of k. Thaksin the worthy k. Noppadon already file a complaint ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I may have missed the latest developments. Pray tell, did the legal representative of k. Thaksin the worthy k. Noppadon already file a complaint ? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I may have missed the latest developments. Pray tell, did the legal representative of k. Thaksin the worthy k. Noppadon already file a complaint ? Yes. By now I've found a remark hidden in the topic on the "THB 1 million reward" which says "Meanwhile, Pheu Thai spokesman Promphong Nopparit filed a complaint at Lumpini police station charging Abhisit and four other Democrats with slander." I'm not sure that counts as far as the Thaksin person is concerned. K. Noppadon is his legal representative, K. Promphon is just one of the Pheu Thai spokespersons. Anyway I guess the court will first deliberate on whether or not to accept the complaint. If yes, the next steps ... ... ... Don't call us, we'll call you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I may have missed the latest developments. Pray tell, did the legal representative of k. Thaksin the worthy k. Noppadon already file a complaint ? Yes. By now I've found a remark hidden in the topic on the "THB 1 million reward" which says "Meanwhile, Pheu Thai spokesman Promphong Nopparit filed a complaint at Lumpini police station charging Abhisit and four other Democrats with slander." I'm not sure that counts as far as the Thaksin person is concerned. K. Noppadon is his legal representative, K. Promphon is just one of the Pheu Thai spokespersons. Anyway I guess the court will first deliberate on whether or not to accept the complaint. If yes, the next steps ... ... ... Don't call us, we'll call you The full statement concerning Phrompong's complaint is Meanwhile, Pheu Thai spokesman Promphong Nopparit filed a complaint at Lumpini police station charging Abhisit and four other Democrats with slander.This case stems from the Democrat rally held at Lumpini Park on Saturday in which Abhisit claimed that there were links between former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and the men in black. Promphong said Thaksin was in no way involved in the matter and that Abhisit was trying to incite hatred by smearing him. He also named Suthep Thaugsuban, Sirichok Sopha, Korn Chatikavanij and Sathit Pitutecha as accomplices. Now, why is a spokesman of the ruling party filing a complaint alleging a criminal on the run has been slandered? And, more to the point, how can Promphong confidently say "Thaksin was in no way involved in the matter (of the men in black)". So Promphong knows for sure who was involved in the matter? Will the court require proof of that statement? Will Promphong be able to, or indeed want to, provide that proof? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Now, why is a spokesman of the ruling party filing a complaint alleging a criminal on the run has been slandered? And, more to the point, how can Promphong confidently say "Thaksin was in no way involved in the matter (of the men in black)". So Promphong knows for sure who was involved in the matter? Will the court require proof of that statement? Will Promphong be able to, or indeed want to, provide that proof? The problem is that Promphong does not need to prove that Thaksin was not involved. It is Abhisit et al who made the allegedly slanderous allegations. They will need to provide proof positive. Which they claim to have. I sincerely hope so. I will not do much for reconciliation though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Now, why is a spokesman of the ruling party filing a complaint alleging a criminal on the run has been slandered? And, more to the point, how can Promphong confidently say "Thaksin was in no way involved in the matter (of the men in black)". So Promphong knows for sure who was involved in the matter? Will the court require proof of that statement? Will Promphong be able to, or indeed want to, provide that proof? The problem is that Promphong does not need to prove that Thaksin was not involved. It is Abhisit et al who made the allegedly slanderous allegations. They will need to provide proof positive. Which they claim to have. I sincerely hope so. I will not do much for reconciliation though. He may not have to prove it, but he has made the definite statement that Thaksin was in no way involved, leading to the inference that he does know who was involved. Why has he kept quiet about it for so long? Unless it is damaging to his own interests, of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I would be interested in hearing how Jatuporn acquired B4 million that he declared in assets while working as a "political activist"; his own job description for a mercenary agitator of unrest and violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Well can we soon expect a total ban on YouTube as the evidence there alone linking Thaksin to the incitement of violence and the funding of violence could indeed be considered a trifle damming in the case against Thaksin ? Link that to the comments made by the Red Shirt leadership in which they linked themselves to Thaksin and vice versa and the evidence is overwhelming concerning Thaksins involvement (guilt) in the matters . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) This afternoon, yet another of Thaksin's defamation lawsuits was dismissed by the Minburi Court. The defamation lawsuit was against PAD Co-leader Sondhi Limthongkul and five others for criticizing the then-government of Samak and filed in 2008. In dismissing the defamation lawsuit, the court explained that it was normal for the defendants to be criticized. . Edited February 28, 2013 by Buchholz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) This afternoon, yet another of Thaksin's defamation lawsuits was dismissed by the Minburi Court. The defamation lawsuit was against PAD Co-leader Sondhi Limthongkul and five others for criticizing the then-government of Samak and filed in 2008. In dismissing the defamation lawsuit, the court explained that it was normal for the defendants to be criticized. . The six who criticized Samak did so for his plans to amend the constitution to clear all corruption charges against Thaksin. Worth remembering that the current Thaksin, ver. 4.0 wasn't the first to try and complete the whitewash as it was being done five years previously with Thaksin, ver. 2.0 The six also criticized Thaksin, ver. 1.0 for the 2,500 non-judicial slayings of his Drug War and also for his privatizing state enterprises that primarily benefited his associates. . Edited March 1, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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