Irishman Found Floating Face-Down In His Swimming Pool At South Pattaya Estate

[Basil B]

Not being a pathologist if I found someone like that I would pull him out of the water and try and resuscitate him. For all you know it might of just happened. No doubt I will get flamed for my comments.

Why is he still in the pool for the picture opportunity? I hope that when I die I have my clothes on.

I did not know him but RIP.

Before jumping in...

1. Call for help.
   
2. Check for hazards, could be electrocution look for anything fallen into the water, even then be carefully because it could be faulty pool lights.
   
3. Do not jump or dive in, use pole to pull the body to the side and pull it out, if you have to get in the pool climb in carefully.
   

what disgusts me is they have not got the body out of the pool so how can they be sure he is dead.

Edited November 1, 2012 by Basil B

[Basil B]

I am no pathologist, either, but since they estimated his death as more than 3 hours prior, my guess would be that you would NOT want to go anywhere near his body, much less his mouth. Also, my firefighter/paramedic friend always jokes about how CPR is just something to keep people busy while waiting for the professionals to arrive, as its effectiveness is not great, and often times, people do more harm than good since they do not perform it correctly, even if they have been 'trained'.

How can you do more harm if a person is not breathing, I think your friend is fool who should be sacked...

[crazydrummerpauly]

FYI.

Many thais who work in industry at Map Ta Phut, Laem Chabang, etc have regular and mandatory first aid and CPR training.

Not everyone in Thailand works in a bar.

Yep - and some Thai school teachers are sent to train with the Red Cross in Bangkok - a thorough course i think.

Edited November 1, 2012 by crazydrummerpauly

[BwindiBoy]

I still suspect it's foul play!

And this one's no better!

Why would you suspect foul play when from the initial inspection of the gentleman's body there were no obvious signs of injury to be seen, and nothing inside the house or around the pool area suggested foul play?

Also a friend of the deceased has already mentioned that he'd had a bad time with his health in recent years.

RIP Mr Burgess

I suspect it's sarcasm.

Why would you suspect sarcasm when, from the initial inspection of the post, there were no obvious signs of sarcasm...?

Anyway, not good for the Irish fella, but hopefully it was quick and there are far worse ways to go.

[londoedan]

Why are they found naked so often?

Obviously you don't yet understand the Pattaya male expat mentality. Many would wander around naked on the streets if legal.

You are spot on. Around our villages in Isaan are three farangs that are two weeks in Pattaya and the other two weeks here in Sakon Nakhon. They behave here in Isaan as if they are still in Pattaya.

What, you mean they're enjoying themselves, smiling a lot, having a beer now and then ?

[Keesters]

We are actually mostly normal people here in Pattaya.

Despite what a lot of people think.

[NoshowJones]

Not being a pathologist if I found someone like that I would pull him out of the water and try and resuscitate him. For all you know it might of just happened. No doubt I will get flamed for my comments.

Why is he still in the pool for the picture opportunity? I hope that when I die I have my clothes on.

I did not know him but RIP.

No flame from me, I agree with you, but it never seems to happen in Thailand, Thais just don't try to help in a situation like this, maybe they don't know what to do.

If your'e average Thai driver won't pull in to let an ambulance pass in an emergency, what chance would there be of any of them trying to resuscitate anyone?

[Rimmer]

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[asiawatcher]

How many Thai people you know that have been to CPR training?

About 170. My staff who all have to pass CPR and general first aid training on a yearly basis.

Ignorant comment.

Why is the comment ignorant? It is a question... and you answered - in your flag waving opportunity - and your good move as I would doubt local Thai companies would bother training staff in first aid or CPR. You would be a "once off" thus validating the OP's question.

[oldsailor35]

Not being a pathologist if I found someone like that I would pull him out of the water and try and resuscitate him. For all you know it might of just happened. No doubt I will get flamed for my comments.

Why is he still in the pool for the picture opportunity? I hope that when I die I have my clothes on.

I did not know him but RIP.

I am no pathologist, either, but since they estimated his death as more than 3 hours prior, my guess would be that you would NOT want to go anywhere near his body, much less his mouth. Also, my firefighter/paramedic friend always jokes about how CPR is just something to keep people busy while waiting for the professionals to arrive, as its effectiveness is not great, and often times, people do more harm than good since they do not perform it correctly, even if they have been 'trained'.

Is your firefighter/paramedic Irish by any chance ?

[QED]

How many Thai people you know that have been to CPR training?

About 170. My staff who all have to pass CPR and general first aid training on a yearly basis.

Ignorant comment.

Why is the comment ignorant? It is a question... and you answered - in your flag waving opportunity - and your good move as I would doubt local Thai companies would bother training staff in first aid or CPR. You would be a "once off" thus validating the OP's question.

Because mine is a Thai company, and I know of hundreds of other Thai companies that do the same, especially in the O&G and petrochemical industries. Most are accredited with OHSAS. I just get annoyed when people assume that all industry here follows the same standards as there local handyman Somchai, as that is all they have experience with. You would be surprised at the amount of firms here operating at, or above, international standards.

[JSixpack]

Why are they found naked so often?

Obviously you don't yet understand the Pattaya male expat mentality. Many would wander around naked on the streets if legal.

Please explain the -Pattaya male expat mentality - once we know it, we will understand it.

Don't you get the Discovery channel?

[Naam]

Why are they found naked so often?

RIP to the man. I hope it was quick ans painless.

they swim naked in their private pools that people have a reason to ask silly questions.

[Naam]

Why are they found naked so often?

Obviously you don't yet understand the Pattaya male expat mentality. Many would wander around naked on the streets if legal.

Please explain the -Pattaya male expat mentality - once we know it, we will understand it.

the Pattaya expat mentality is judged best after emptying a sixpack.

[JSixpack]

Why are they found naked so often?

Obviously you don't yet understand the Pattaya male expat mentality. Many would wander around naked on the streets if legal.

Please explain the -Pattaya male expat mentality - once we know it, we will understand it.

the Pattaya expat mentality is judged best after emptying a sixpack.

yada yada yakety-yak....... yawn!

Edited November 2, 2012 by JSixpack

[Exsexyman]

I have a pool here in Korat,enjoy the meat and Two veg creating a fin !!!!

Seems he went out liberated and the same way he came into the world!!

RIP man

Too much information there mate!

[LennyW]

How many Thai people you know that have been to CPR training?

About 170. My staff who all have to pass CPR and general first aid training on a yearly basis.

Ignorant comment.

Why is the comment ignorant? It is a question... and you answered - in your flag waving opportunity - and your good move as I would doubt local Thai companies would bother training staff in first aid or CPR. You would be a "once off" thus validating the OP's question.

Because mine is a Thai company, and I know of hundreds of other Thai companies that do the same, especially in the O&G and petrochemical industries. Most are accredited with OHSAS. I just get annoyed when people assume that all industry here follows the same standards as there local handyman Somchai, as that is all they have experience with. You would be surprised at the amount of firms here operating at, or above, international standards.

I would be very surprised if any company working on the Eastern seaboard, or any national utility company such as TOT or the PEA, or Ford or Toyota or Yamaha, or Honda, or Isuzu, or Leibherr, or Samsung, or BMW, or Ban Chack refinery, or 7/11, or Tesco, or, or , or or, or..... do you really think these companies would not provide at least basic health & safety training for their employees?

Perhaps the local Mom n Pop shop would struggle to do a heart pounding rescucitation manouvere!! but i can assure you every big hotel and any company that operates openly here have their employees regularly trained and certified, not only in basic first aid, but also basic fire fighting., which could save someones life - not like sitting in a bar or in front of your computer and thinking you know better!!

[Rimmer]

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