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Hello,

I sent my documents for 90day check from Chiang Rai to Bangkok Immigration Office in Laksit (where I got my non B visa) but probably they haven't accepted it since I haven't got any mail from them. I will leave the country to change my visa to a tourist visa in December before the expiry of my non B. What would happen if I leave the country without the 90 day check report? Will I pay the same fine as 2000baht or will I pay more?

Another question is that can I extend a tourist visa at any immigration office which is the closest to me?

Many thanks!

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I assume you have an extension of stay based upon working. The 90 day report is not your biggest worry if you are no longer working. Your extension ended on the date you stopped working and are on overstay of 500 baht per day.

If you are still working you must cancel your extension and work permit before leaving the country.

Perhaps they did not sent report back because your extension has already been cancelled.

Normally they would of mailed something back to you even if they did not process your mailed in report.

You can apply for tourist visa extension at any immigration office.

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in fact my ex boss holds my work permit and doesn't cancel it until I leave the country. I left that job and started to work in another school in Chiang Rai but didn't like the new school and the new school hasn't processed any work permit yet. so officially I still work at the old job.

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in fact my ex boss holds my work permit and doesn't cancel it until I leave the country. I left that job and started to work in another school in Chiang Rai but didn't like the new school and the new school hasn't processed any work permit yet. so officially I still work at the old job.

Why would anyone let their boss hold their work permit? I understand that you left your job, but the W.P. belongs to you. Maybe you paid for it, maybe your employer did. No one will ever have/hold my W.P. or my passport. Those are my rules and I'm the one who has paid for it, I think one employer split the cost with me.

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I assume you have an extension of stay based upon working. The 90 day report is not your biggest worry if you are no longer working. Your extension ended on the date you stopped working and are on overstay of 500 baht per day.

If you are still working you must cancel your extension and work permit before leaving the country.

Perhaps they did not sent report back because your extension has already been cancelled.

Normally they would of mailed something back to you even if they did not process your mailed in report.

You can apply for tourist visa extension at any immigration office.

I don't think you are at all correct - technically you should cancel your extension of visa on the last day of working however, there is no check on this and the labour department doesn't contact the immigration as to when your work permit was cancelled - 90 day reporting applies to all visas if you stay over 90 days - I retired last month and my work permit was returned 7 days after I finished work - no problem. I went to Lao and the imigration officer asked if i was sure i wanted to leave and cancel my non-imm 'B' I said yes due to retirement. He left my 90 day report paper in my passport and when I pointed it out he told me no problem just keep it. I did and was not asked for it on my re-entry

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Why would anyone let their boss hold their work permit? I understand that you left your job, but the W.P. belongs to you.

Technically, the WP belongs to the Labour office, I think.

Also it is a company WP, only with your name as a employee in it.

That's the reason, the company can cancel it, when ever they want!

Posted

I assume you have an extension of stay based upon working. The 90 day report is not your biggest worry if you are no longer working. Your extension ended on the date you stopped working and are on overstay of 500 baht per day.

If you are still working you must cancel your extension and work permit before leaving the country.

Perhaps they did not sent report back because your extension has already been cancelled.

Normally they would of mailed something back to you even if they did not process your mailed in report.

You can apply for tourist visa extension at any immigration office.

I don't think you are at all correct - technically you should cancel your extension of visa on the last day of working however, there is no check on this and the labour department doesn't contact the immigration as to when your work permit was cancelled - 90 day reporting applies to all visas if you stay over 90 days - I retired last month and my work permit was returned 7 days after I finished work - no problem. I went to Lao and the imigration officer asked if i was sure i wanted to leave and cancel my non-imm 'B' I said yes due to retirement. He left my 90 day report paper in my passport and when I pointed it out he told me no problem just keep it. I did and was not asked for it on my re-entry

I dont think your correct either - Technically the 90 day reporting is for those on extensions, if you are on a "visa" you have to exit the country every 90 days.

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my ex boss told me that it was her duty to cancel the work permit so that's why I left the W.P. to her while leaving BKK. I asked her if she could wait to cancel the old W.P until the new school gets me the new one (I wanted to be able to stay in country to be able to extend the existent Non B visa) and she said yes. but then as I didn't like the new school I decided to quit after the probation period so I'll be leaving at the end of november. then I have to stay in Thailand for 3 more months for some trainings and this is the reason why I go to Malaysia to get a tourist visa. I know that this is not totally legal that I still use the non B visa although I quitted the job but I really need to do it this way to be able to save some money. now, what do you think will happen if I don't report myself at the immigration office before the departure? Thank you very much for your replies!

Posted

The receipt for the registred mail is proof you send it. But it is not unheard of that it takes a few weeks before you get the form back.

If you send with a return address in Chinag Rai, you reported to the wrong office. If you send the return enveloppe with an adress in BKK, it was the right office.

Posted

Why would anyone let their boss hold their work permit? I understand that you left your job, but the W.P. belongs to you.

Technically, the WP belongs to the Labour office, I think.

Also it is a company WP, only with your name as a employee in it.

That's the reason, the company can cancel it, when ever they want!

Yes and knowing how companies and schools operate in Thailand, that could be in ten years or never.

Posted

It is not a compay WP, the WP belongs to you. But as the WP only allows you to work for the company mentioned in the WPthey can cancel it by informing the labour office that you no longer work for them.

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It is not a compay WP, the WP belongs to you. But as the WP only allows you to work for the company mentioned in the WPthey can cancel it by informing the labour office that you no longer work for them.

I still think, it is only 'a wp from/for a company in your name', but not 'your' wp.

But maybe that's only my point of view!

Posted

It is not a compay WP, the WP belongs to you. But as the WP only allows you to work for the company mentioned in the WPthey can cancel it by informing the labour office that you no longer work for them.

I still think, it is only 'a wp from/for a company in your name', but not 'your' wp.

But maybe that's only my point of view!

The work permit is from the labour dept given to you to be able to work at said company, hence some companies insist on you paying for it yourself.

Posted

It is not a compay WP, the WP belongs to you. But as the WP only allows you to work for the company mentioned in the WPthey can cancel it by informing the labour office that you no longer work for them.

I still think, it is only 'a wp from/for a company in your name', but not 'your' wp.

But maybe that's only my point of view!

That can't be right because I have 2 companies (in different provinces) in my work permit and there would be nothing stopping me adding a 3rd, 4th... And it is my responsibility to have it with me wherever I'm working. Therefore it must be mine. No?

Posted

It is not a compay WP, the WP belongs to you. But as the WP only allows you to work for the company mentioned in the WPthey can cancel it by informing the labour office that you no longer work for them.

I still think, it is only 'a wp from/for a company in your name', but not 'your' wp.

But maybe that's only my point of view!

That can't be right because I have 2 companies (in different provinces) in my work permit and there would be nothing stopping me adding a 3rd, 4th... And it is my responsibility to have it with me wherever I'm working. Therefore it must be mine. No?

Interesting, the 2 companies 'in your wp'! Managing director of company one, perhaps?

I know this kind of wp's as wp from one company with permission of this 'one', to work also for a second/third (named) one, too.

In case, you aren't a consultant (1. Co.) and working for other Co.s, because that's the job of your no.1 Co.

So you're sure, all the paperwork for the second company wp in the same book ('your' wp) was done, without paperwork from company one?

You get regular salary from both companies, or Company one is billing Company two, for your work?

Ever checked, what happened, if you would close Co. 1? Since the transfer isn't possible, anymore, it would be from interest, in your case, if deleting Co. 1 from the wp would be everything, that had to be done?

I'm always happy, to learn new things. In special, if that would mean, that things could be done easier.

But till now, I have to follow my experience. And that is saying different!

Posted

It appears this is now getting off-topic. The topic here is "What happens if I leave Thailand with 90 day report?"

If you want to discuss multiple-employer work permits, please start a new topic.

Posted

It appears this is now getting off-topic. The topic here is "What happens if I leave Thailand with 90 day report?"

If you want to discuss multiple-employer work permits, please start a new topic.

Without 90 day report! If I remember right.

And sorry for taking over with this employer /. employee wp thing

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