webfact Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Police to handle anti-govt demonstrators with crowd-control plan: Army chief By Digital Media BANGKOK, Nov 19 - Army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha said today that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has instructed police to prepare to use crowd-control plan ‘Korakot 52’ to handle Saturday’s planned anti-government rally, provided that there are no signs of violence. He said security agencies are continuing to monitor the situation and the government is ready to use a special law if the situation turns violent. He urged the public not to be alarmed. Meanwhile, a pro-government red shirt leader reaffirmed that the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) will not protest near the Royal Plaza, the venue of the Pitak Siam rally, to avoid any confrontation. UDD leader Suporn Attawong, deputy secretary-general to the prime minister, said the Red Shirts will not gather near the Royal Plaza Saturday, but they may gather upcountry instead to avoid confrontation. Mr Suporn said if any violence occurs this Saturday, it will be the work of a third party to create a disturbance and it is the responsibility of security agencies to control the situation. The red shirt leader said that the UDD is ready to mobilise hundreds of thousands of its supporters to the capital within two hours if there is any attempt to topple the Yingluck government. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2012-11-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 "The red shirt leader said that the UDD is ready to mobilise hundreds of thousands of its supporters to the capital within two hours if there is any attempt to topple the Yingluck government. " Errrr... so a civil war will be instigated if there is an attempt to oust the government? What constitutes an attempt? A request for the PM to stand down? A call for new elections? And how will these hundreds of thousands of UDD supporters counter that attempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticBhoy Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I guess this means stay home on Saturday as it will be a nightmare driving anywhere. Hope the telly's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 For the telly, how about a full coverage of the protest - let everyone see what is really going on there in real time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 "...The red shirt leader said that the UDD is ready to mobilise hundreds of thousands of its supporters to the capital within two hours if there is any attempt to topple the Yingluck government. (MCOT online news)". Yeah right... two hours? so are they in the next street but will not counter demonstrate? And are the numbers any larger - the Reds failed last time miserably to get 5,000. As already said - this could well escalate into a civil war. Oh well - life in Thailand continues irrespective. I'm all for the monarchy to be reinstated (well almost). It has to be better than this garbage every few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 "The red shirt leader said that the UDD is ready to mobilise hundreds of thousands of its supporters to the capital within two hours if there is any attempt to topple the Yingluck government. " Clearly this man knows nothing about traffic conditions in Bangkok. Busing in hundreds of thousands of people would take about 5 days given the gridlock most commuters suffer on a daily basis. They'd be stuck at the end of Bang Na trat, behind a Buses three deep picking up and dropping off passengers as the tanks roll in. Unless of course the UDD plans to parachute in its supporters from a fleet of C-130s airborne over Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Did all those red shirts die in vain? No lessons learned? All those Shinawatras and Damapongs heading up the Thai Police and no crowd control training? Two and a half years after the 2010 events? Can not be! Surely not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soi Sauce Posted November 19, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2012 THai Police crowd control is excellent. Just ask those who work in Rhajaprasong and the patients at Chula Hospital. The army was used last time as the police did nothing. Only time we've seen them at political rallies, they fired tear gas directly at the crowd deliberately trying to maim and injure. Then again, it was a yellow shirt crowd so a good chance it will happen again. Remeber, PTP and reds do not know what democracy is, only what Thaksin tells them his version is. That version means me, myself, I, and a lot of ignorant people believe him.Those saddos are the next ones to suffer as nothing will stand in the march of mypocketocracy as preached by the crooks in control. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Somchai (in Udon) :"Quick , hook up the trailer to the Kubota rice tractor, I'll wake the boys up!" Nop : "What's going on?" Somchai : " Pitak Siam are protesting against the government." Nop : " How long does it take to get to Bangkok?" Somchai : " Can't be much more than 2 hours, can it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Korakot 52, a plan for the police to neglect their duties, and any pretense of neutrality, disappear from the scene and force the army to step in. I think we have seen it before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Why is the Army chief explaining how the police will be handing an upcoming protest? Oops - I forgot where I was for a moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinpin Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Special Law ???? Is that guns and live amo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I hope they haven't rostered the sergeant who delivers the M-79 grenades. He may have a prior engagement. Any news on his court case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 He's probably being wildly optimistic. The police did nothing during the Red demonstration of 2009 & 2010 and they will undoubtedly do nothing this time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theslime Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Those yellow shirts want Khun Thaksin to serve his time, yet we don,t see their former leaders leading by example ,and doing a stretch. No its only Khun Thaksin that has done anywrong. Good for the Goose but not for the Gander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 He's probably being wildly optimistic. The police did nothing during the Red demonstration of 2009 & 2010 and they will undoubtedly do nothing this time as well. If it's anything like around here, the BIB can't do anything unless you register a complaint, and that can't be done at the local office, it must be the one 20 kms away. When you get there, the only guy who takes complaints has just gone on his break, so you wait an hour for him to come back, 2 hours to get to the head of the queue, to find he doesn't speak English. They have one English speaker (just) who has just gone on his break, so you wait an hour........................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) "The red shirt leader said that the UDD is ready to mobilise hundreds of thousands of its supporters to the capital within two hours if there is any attempt to topple the Yingluck government. " Errrr... so a civil war will be instigated if there is an attempt to oust the government? What constitutes an attempt? A request for the PM to stand down? A call for new elections? And how will these hundreds of thousands of UDD supporters counter that attempt? The same way the Rad Guard did in China, or the Kamer Rogue in Cambodia? Are the UDD the the Gestopo of the PTP? Edited November 19, 2012 by tomross46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 "The red shirt leader said that the UDD is ready to mobilise hundreds of thousands of its supporters to the capital within two hours if there is any attempt to topple the Yingluck government. " Errrr... so a civil war will be instigated if there is an attempt to oust the government? What constitutes an attempt? A request for the PM to stand down? A call for new elections? And how will these hundreds of thousands of UDD supporters counter that attempt? The same way the Rad Guard did in China, or the Kamer Rogue in Cambodia? Are the UDD the the Gestopo of the PTP? Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 He's probably being wildly optimistic. The police did nothing during the Red demonstration of 2009 & 2010 and they will undoubtedly do nothing this time as well. If it's anything like around here, the BIB can't do anything unless you register a complaint, and that can't be done at the local office, it must be the one 20 kms away. When you get there, the only guy who takes complaints has just gone on his break, so you wait an hour for him to come back, 2 hours to get to the head of the queue, to find he doesn't speak English. They have one English speaker (just) who has just gone on his break, so you wait an hour........................................... The police took action against the Yellow shirts. The readon they did not take action against the Red shirts, could be Big Brother told them not to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Those yellow shirts want Khun Thaksin to serve his time, yet we don,t see their former leaders leading by example ,and doing a stretch. No its only Khun Thaksin that has done anywrong. Good for the Goose but not for the Gander. Wouldn't it make more sense to do it in order of occurance? Sent from my HTC phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Those yellow shirts want Khun Thaksin to serve his time, yet we don,t see their former leaders leading by example ,and doing a stretch. No its only Khun Thaksin that has done anywrong. Good for the Goose but not for the Gander. They aren't hiding in Dubai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragickingdom Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Let's hope that it is not the plan that they received from the distinguished gentlemen Abhisit and Suthep. Crow control according their definition is execution on the spot and many many snipers to stop people who get away from the life firing zones. An arm general who still believes that his bombscanners are top notch technology would certainly not be able to come up with a working plan himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Let's hope that it is not the plan that they received from the distinguished gentlemen Abhisit and Suthep. Crow control according their definition is execution on the spot and many many snipers to stop people who get away from the life firing zones. An arm general who still believes that his bombscanners are top notch technology would certainly not be able to come up with a working plan himself. Crow control is a red shirt job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) Surely, the correct mandate to give the police would be to maintain order and quell violence, regardless of which colour the perp is waving. It seems from reading this though, that the 'necessary action' has already been determined in line with what the PM's office 'expects' to happen. Oh, and here we go again with the mysterious Third Party. Edited November 19, 2012 by Songhua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) quote// Did all those red shirts die in vain? No lessons learned? All those Shinawatras and Damapongs heading up the Thai Police and no crowd control training? Two and a half years after the 2010 events? Can not be! Surely not!//unquote Red shirts never die in vain. Edited November 19, 2012 by Tanaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 UDD leader Suporn Attawong, deputy secretary-general to the prime minister, said the Red Shirts will not gather near the Royal Plaza Saturday, but they may gather upcountry instead to avoid confrontation. Yes, they will gather in Udon Thani on Friday instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antpet Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Well that's OK then. There's a democracy, har earned and fragile, and the Army take to the streets when there is a protest and invoke a special law that prevents people democratically protesting. And the people are told not to worry. But worry about what exactly? the fact that their hard earned democratic rights are being swept away by a coup crazed military dictatorship kept only in place as long as the pay offs are high enough, the public profile flattering enough and the nepotism strong enough to reward even their third cousin twice removed on their grandfather's side, who is currently serving 20 to life for his murder of 15 infant school children, ploughed down at a bus stop when he dropped the yaba tab into his lap. Sounds about right. But don't worry. The army won't be indiscrimantely shooting into the crowd at defenceless women and children. No. The media controlled publicity will explain that the women and children were carrying dangerous missiles made out of tap gai skewers, ice cream cones and the potentially lethal large foam hand that could be used to suffocate those soldiers who were only doing their duty. The same duty that saw 80 killed when suffocated in a locked container they were being detained in. That suffocation just goes to show how lethal those foam hands can be. It wasn't the lack of air then and the baking temperature. No. It was the foam hands they were wearing that slipped over their air ways and cuased death by misadventure. It seems that life and death in Thailand is not so muuch an adventure as a mis-adventure for any one foolish enough to venture onto the captal's streets and exorcise their democratic right to peaceful protest. Armed with banners, ice creams, liver on a stick [a very small stick] is a riot waiting to happen, as every military General with the IQ of a mosquitoe and the same desire to draw blood at every opportunity. At least we're grateful these generals are ignorant, backward, ill-educated thugs; imagine if they had brains. Then they'd be really dangerous and Magodishu [when is the next flight?] would seem as attractive as the Dordoigne in Spring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOboe57 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Well that's OK then. [...] Your post doesn't make any sense. But I guess that was intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Well that's OK then. [...] Your post doesn't make any sense. But I guess that was intended. It was the yaba dropping in his lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soi Sauce Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) Posted Today, 18:32 Let's hope that it is not the plan that they received from the distinguished gentlemen Abhisit and Suthep. Crow control according their definition is execution on the spot and many many snipers to stop people who get away from the life firing zones. An arm general who still believes that his bombscanners are top notch technology would certainly not be able to come up with a working plan himself. Crow controls and Arm generals. We're talking about people and soldiers, not birds and limbs. Hope your information source is better than a scarecrow. Edited November 19, 2012 by Soi Sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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