Reads like a PTP Press Release.

No journalism involved here.

Spot on - notice the 0.56% unemployment rate and the free and fair elections.

When did this happen?

While you and her detractors were occupied throwing mud. The electorate became more comfortable with the duly elected PM.

It is why the Democrats pulled out all stops to get the censure debate. They are desperate to stop her slow and steady gains. The Democrats under Abhisit never enjoyed the level of support that the PTP have.

Yingluck Shinawatra remains more popular than opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva but her lead has shrunk by nearly five percentage points following the no-confidence debate in Parliament.

The demonstration further indicated that Ms. Yingluck's government operates with the single purpose of furthering Mr. Thaksin's long-term political aims. It's an allegation both Shinawatras deny, but one that continues to complicate Ms. Yingluck's task of bringing lasting reconciliation to this politically divided country.

Viewing the thumbnail I wonder where this would have gone in a private session without the ever present media.

When did this happen?

While you and her detractors were occupied throwing mud. The electorate became more comfortable with the duly elected PM.

It is why the Democrats pulled out all stops to get the censure debate. They are desperate to stop her slow and steady gains. The Democrats under Abhisit never enjoyed the level of support that the PTP have.

Please, lets give them another 5-10 years in power....then we can really see how good this government is. Without a coup, they are in this for the long haul, so only time will tell if they can actually do something that benefits the country. PT wouldn't be so far ahead if the Dems actually did something for the masses when they were in power.

In 5-10 years time they will, if unchecked, have robbed the coffers dry. Look at their behaviour so far. They are now open about the lies as their confidence and contempt grows.

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

I agree, she has learned to stand pretty well by now.

Now, if she gets an equally good grip on thinking, understanding and talking... Watch out folks!

In my opinion from her past and current performance the chances of her getting the good grip as you say on thinking, understanding and talking are about the same as Charlem giving up his ear medication.

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

It was the object of an other thread a few days ago. An other great achievement of PT is to nurture new talents who will be tomorrow's leaders.

Look at the democrats. Abhisit obviously doesn't have what it takes to be the nation leader, but worse that that, he blocks the ascension of young talents who would have this ability.

So Juergen, could you please list all these great achievements of PT that you refer to? This would be really helpful as I blinked and missed them.

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

It was the object of an other thread a few days ago. An other great achievement of PT is to nurture new talents who will be tomorrow's leaders.

Look at the democrats. Abhisit obviously doesn't have what it takes to be the nation leader, but worse that that, he blocks the ascension of young talents who would have this ability.

So Juergen, could you please list all these great achievements of PT that you refer to? This would be really helpful as I blinked and missed them.

Yes Juergen unfortunately I missed them also. Please bring us up to date.

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

It was the object of an other thread a few days ago. An other great achievement of PT is to nurture new talents who will be tomorrow's leaders.

Look at the democrats. Abhisit obviously doesn't have what it takes to be the nation leader, but worse that that, he blocks the ascension of young talents who would have this ability.

So Juergen, could you please list all these great achievements of PT that you refer to? This would be really helpful as I blinked and missed them.

Yes Juergen unfortunately I missed them also. Please bring us up to date.

No worries Bear and Pimay, I can assure you, you didn't miss much!

Pimay1, on 2012-12-03 16:25:35, said:

Baerboxer, on 2012-12-03 16:03:41, said:

JurgenG, on 2012-12-03 09:46:41, said:

btunes, on 2012-12-03 08:29:29, said:

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

It was the object of an other thread a few days ago. An other great achievement of PT is to nurture new talents who will be tomorrow's leaders.

Look at the democrats. Abhisit obviously doesn't have what it takes to be the nation leader, but worse that that, he blocks the ascension of young talents who would have this ability.

So Juergen, could you please list all these great achievements of PT that you refer to? This would be really helpful as I blinked and missed them.

Yes Juergen unfortunately I missed them also. Please bring us up to date.

No worries Bear and Pimay, I can assure you, you didn't miss much!

Understand. I agree unless he is referring to certain PTP members and associates topping up their bank accounts then I would agree with the boy.

Edited December 3, 201213 yr by Pimay1

The spin doctors are working OT on this rubbish. Of course the Thai newspapers will spread the word lulling the populace into more false security.

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

You could stand a coyote girl next to Obama who could look confident and at ease. Being PM is (or should be) about more than looking the part. Every criminal enjoys gaining credibility from mixing with 'clean' types.

Anyway, remember SAMAK??? Originally a puppet for Thaksin, then started to get too big for his boots and defying orders, actually believing that he was a real PM. Maybe the same is happening with Yingy, shes actually starting to believe that she's doing a good job and has lost sight of her main reason for being in her current job. He'll make his move soon enough, for the next election.

When did this happen?

While you and her detractors were occupied throwing mud. The electorate became more comfortable with the duly elected PM.

It is why the Democrats pulled out all stops to get the censure debate. They are desperate to stop her slow and steady gains. The Democrats under Abhisit never enjoyed the level of support that the PTP have.

Please, lets give them another 5-10 years in power....then we can really see how good this government is. Without a coup, they are in this for the long haul, so only time will tell if they can actually do something that benefits the country. PT wouldn't be so far ahead if the Dems actually did something for the masses when they were in power.

That has to be one of the most idiotic statements yet.

Who in there right mind would even try to compare them. When the Dems were in the office they had a potful of other parties to contend with Where as the PT have none and if you try to raise a rally that does not praise them they will send in more armed men than protestors and but up barricades up to keep people out.

They are good at barricade building in 2010 they practiced a lot to keep The real Government and honest wage earners out of an area they temporarily controlled. they even set one up around a hospital and then invaded it.

When did this happen?

While you and her detractors were occupied throwing mud. The electorate became more comfortable with the duly elected PM.

It is why the Democrats pulled out all stops to get the censure debate. They are desperate to stop her slow and steady gains. The Democrats under Abhisit never enjoyed the level of support that the PTP have.

Please, lets give them another 5-10 years in power....then we can really see how good this government is. Without a coup, they are in this for the long haul, so only time will tell if they can actually do something that benefits the country. PT wouldn't be so far ahead if the Dems actually did something for the masses when they were in power.

That has to be one of the most idiotic statements yet.

Who in there right mind would even try to compare them. When the Dems were in the office they had a potful of other parties to contend with Where as the PT have none and if you try to raise a rally that does not praise them they will send in more armed men than protestors and but up barricades up to keep people out.

They are good at barricade building in 2010 they practiced a lot to keep The real Government and honest wage earners out of an area they temporarily controlled. they even set one up around a hospital and then invaded it.

You really are going to love it when she wins the next election.........

You really are going to love it when she wins buys the next election.........

....one more Thai soap opera that the Thais 'gobble up'....experience shows...liars, cheaters and insincere people...never change...they only pretend...

I have not actually heard one of them in tune on The Voice here in Thailand.

but back on topic

Yingluk could cure cancer, aids, bring world peace and and end to poverty and hunger, and people on here would still try and belittle this woman (that has achieved more than any of them in her life, maybe that's the problem) based on who her brother is, its sad really.

luckily the people that matter, the voters, have a say in this rather some of the posters on here.

Well she certainly is a breath of fresh air compared with some of those sour faced greedy corrupt old men such as Suthep. Abisit was'nt too bad, but every time i saw him on TV etc., there was Suthep wispering into his ear. I often thought to myself, "just who is the boss there"

When did this happen?

While you and her detractors were occupied throwing mud. The electorate became more comfortable with the duly elected PM.

It is why the Democrats pulled out all stops to get the censure debate. They are desperate to stop her slow and steady gains. The Democrats under Abhisit never enjoyed the level of support that the PTP have.

Off course Gerry Kid, the Democrats may not enjoy the same level of support, but does this necessarily mean that their concerns about PTP are not legitimate? Does this mean that PTP have the monopoly on truth and the Dems do not? The electorate can be easily manipulated, can be easily fooled as has happened all over the world so many times. Does this mean that those who have won power by whatever means at their disposal are right whereas the opposition are wrong? Off course not! You only have to look at Thai society, the underlying nature of the Thai character, the easy lies, the lust for power, the manipulation, the corruption and so on to get some tiny inkling of how PTP are where they are! But you won't see it if you think you are personally better served by going with the 'majority'. Don't make me laugh!

GK, I really believe that you are a smart person. But I just can't understand how you can believe in what you write. She gains nothing, she gets comfortable just because she now becomes a professional cheat and liar, same as her brother and all the muppets who sit with her.

What are the achievements of this government? How can any reasonable electorate of this "duly elected PM" (Tongue in cheek here) be more comfortable, knowing that this PM and associates (same as in a company) have delivered NOTHING???

Take you red glasses off, and look around you. Truth might hurt at first, but you gonna get used to it.

Let's deal with the subject at hand: The slow, but steady growth the government's popular support. The issue is not what has been delivered or will be delivered. What matters in this discussion is the solid support base the government enjoys. If there was a viable alternative, I would embrace it, but there isn't. This is Thailand, and the political group called Slim Pickings dominates.

What's the alternative? Another military dictatorship? It isn't the Democrats, led by a weak "leader" and with its own sordid history of abuses and corruption scandals, and it isn't one of the small special interest political parties. I keep hoping that someone, somewhere will come out of the woodwork, a person with impeccable credentials, without the taint of corruption and with an understanding of the changes that need to be done. I don't think Thailand can improve until there is somesort of change in society that would see severe penalties imposed for corruption and the elimination of all the debauched deviant excesses that make Thailand so desirable for so many people. Call me a puritan, or a commie, but I don't think Thailand will evolve into a nation where the rule of law means something, where the poor are not exploited, where the police,military,judiciary and government will lead by example and can be trusted, without a major social upheaval, along the lines of what one saw in Europe in the 17th and 18th centuries. Until then, we are stuck with people like PM Yingluck. One plays the game with the cards that are dealt.

In my opinion, to stop corruption it all has to start with the RTP ! Pay them a good wage, make the job too good to loose. Then be vicious with any police caught in corruption, When this is sorted, the rest i.e. government and business will be too afraid of the police to chance their arm ! This way Thailand has a chance to become as great as Singapore.

Reads like a PTP Press Release.

No journalism involved here.

You are quite correct of course, reminds me of the old Democrat press releases that passed as news. Seems to be the way it works.

When did this happen?

While you and her detractors were occupied throwing mud. The electorate became more comfortable with the duly elected PM.

It is why the Democrats pulled out all stops to get the censure debate. They are desperate to stop her slow and steady gains. The Democrats under Abhisit never enjoyed the level of support that the PTP have.

GK, I really believe that you are a smart person. But I just can't understand how you can believe in what you write. She gains nothing, she gets comfortable just because she now becomes a professional cheat and liar, same as her brother and all the muppets who sit with her.

What are the achievements of this government? How can any reasonable electorate of this "duly elected PM" (Tongue in cheek here) be more comfortable, knowing that this PM and associates (same as in a company) have delivered NOTHING???

Take you red glasses off, and look around you. Truth might hurt at first, but you gonna get used to it.

Actually SaltandPepper, it doesn't matter how good or bad the PM and PTP are because the Democrats are unelectable.

If the Democrats spent their time in opposition to convince the electorate that they are a viable alternative to the PTP instead of instigating these stupid censure debates and no confidence motions etc that they have no hope of winning, then come next election, they may give PTP a run for their money. As it stands now they will probably lose by an even greater margin than they did in 2011.

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

It was the object of an other thread a few days ago. An other great achievement of PT is to nurture new talents who will be tomorrow's leaders.

Look at the democrats. Abhisit obviously doesn't have what it takes to be the nation leader, but worse that that, he blocks the ascension of young talents who would have this ability.

So Juergen, could you please list all these great achievements of PT that you refer to? This would be really helpful as I blinked and missed them.

They/ She won a landslide victory in a Democratic election, and would do so if there were to be an election tomorrow, more than Abhisit managed . I would consider that a great acheivement. But as usual the higher interlectual westerners know more than the Thai population and of course they should not be allowed to have a free vote. Clearly as a polotition she has come on leaps and bounds, if not in our eyes certainly in the electorats eyes.

Don't hate the player hate the game...

However the player has a obligation to play the game fairly..

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

It was the object of an other thread a few days ago. An other great achievement of PT is to nurture new talents who will be tomorrow's leaders.

Look at the democrats. Abhisit obviously doesn't have what it takes to be the nation leader, but worse that that, he blocks the ascension of young talents who would have this ability.

So Juergen, could you please list all these great achievements of PT that you refer to? This would be really helpful as I blinked and missed them.

Yes Juergen unfortunately I missed them also. Please bring us up to date.

Since when am I in charge of your education ? I'm not your mother.

While I appreciate you confess your ignorance of current affairs, you should educate yourselves by reading the news before posting in this forum, you wouldn't embarrass yourselves like this.

You really are going to love it when she wins buys the next election.........

My mind was wondering did she buy the last election or did Thaksin buy it?

The next election is going to be close to four years away and a lot can happen in that amount of time.

I have to admit that she has shown signs of distancing her self from her brother.

It would be nice if she would start to show intelligence rather than have written responses by other people or give me time.

Possibly she will get the greed for power that her brother has and start to build her own machine or decide that Thailand deserves better and work for that end.

I think option number one is the way she will go.

I have to say she looked very confident and at ease standing next to Obama a couple of weeks ago.

It was the object of an other thread a few days ago. An other great achievement of PT is to nurture new talents who will be tomorrow's leaders.

Look at the democrats. Abhisit obviously doesn't have what it takes to be the nation leader, but worse that that, he blocks the ascension of young talents who would have this ability.

So Juergen, could you please list all these great achievements of PT that you refer to? This would be really helpful as I blinked and missed them.

Since when am I in charge of your education ? I'm not your mother.

While I appreciate you confess your ignorance of current affairs, you should educate yourselves by reading the news before posting in this forum, you wouldn't embarrass yourselves like this.

Do you have a subscription to red shirt publications in English?

Since when am I in charge of your education ? I'm not your mother.

While I appreciate you confess your ignorance of current affairs, you should educate yourselves by reading the news before posting in this forum, you wouldn't embarrass yourselves like this.

Do you have a subscription to red shirt publications in English?

You can start here http://www.economist.com/

Edited December 3, 201213 yr by JurgenG

To use weekly Thai polls as some sort of show of popularity is a different form of hilarity.

One cleaves strongly Dems, the other cleaves even more strongly PTP.

The credibility and validity of these weekly short questionnaire/short numbers polls is negligible.

And since the biased choices of question phrasing and methodologies are so diametrically different,

you really can't accurately split the difference between the two and prognosticate a mean public sentiment.

I understand why they keep trying to foist this B.S. on us; small minded political expediency,

but to take them seriously is sheer wishful thinking.

Edited December 4, 201213 yr by animatic

To use weekly Thai polls as some sort of show of popularity is a different form of hilarity.

One cleaves strongly Dems, the other cleaves even more strongly PTP.

The credibility and validity of these weekly short questionnaire/short numbers polls is negligible.

And since the biased choices of question phrasing and methodologies are so diametrically different,

you really can't accurately split the difference between the two and prognosticate a mean public sentiment.

I understand why they keep trying to foist this B.S. on us; small minded political expediency,

but to take them seriously is sheer wishful thinking.

Polls are reliable indicators of trends. The polls showed the PTP was on its way to a win in the election. Supporters of the Democrats couldn't believe it. A sham they cried. The polls are wrong they insisted. The election results proved the trend identified by multiple polling was accurate.

You can choose to ignore the trends. Live in denial if it makes you feel better. The polling since the election shows that the PTP has held on to its popular support and is slowly but surely building on that support base. I can see why some people are scared.

Edited December 4, 201213 yr by geriatrickid

Don't hate the player hate the game...

However the player has a obligation to play the game fairly..

Yes, you are correct, but the pitch is in Thailand, with Thai players, Thai rules and Thai referees.

To use weekly Thai polls as some sort of show of popularity is a different form of hilarity.

One cleaves strongly Dems, the other cleaves even more strongly PTP.

The credibility and validity of these weekly short questionnaire/short numbers polls is negligible.

And since the biased choices of question phrasing and methodologies are so diametrically different,

you really can't accurately split the difference between the two and prognosticate a mean public sentiment.

I understand why they keep trying to foist this B.S. on us; small minded political expediency,

but to take them seriously is sheer wishful thinking.

Polls are reliable indicators of trends. The polls showed the PTP was on its way to a win in the election. Supporters of the Democrats couldn't believe it. A sham they cried. The polls are wrong they insisted. The election results proved the trend identified by multiple polling was accurate.

You can choose to ignore the trends. Live in denial if it makes you feel better. The polling since the election shows that the PTP has held on to its popular support and is slowly but surely building on that support base. I can see why some people are scared.

OK ignore the polls.

Take a walk around rural Thailand and talk to the people.

Most I talk to are pro PTP. Not just my village but diverse locations when we visit my wifes family!

Their arguement is that the Dems never did anything for them (very valid point) and only looks after big biz the military etc.

They don't think PTP has made miracles yet but they do believe that it is going in the right direction.

These people not us (guests) are the voters!

To use weekly Thai polls as some sort of show of popularity is a different form of hilarity.

One cleaves strongly Dems, the other cleaves even more strongly PTP.

The credibility and validity of these weekly short questionnaire/short numbers polls is negligible.

And since the biased choices of question phrasing and methodologies are so diametrically different,

you really can't accurately split the difference between the two and prognosticate a mean public sentiment.

I understand why they keep trying to foist this B.S. on us; small minded political expediency,

but to take them seriously is sheer wishful thinking.

Polls are reliable indicators of trends. The polls showed the PTP was on its way to a win in the election. Supporters of the Democrats couldn't believe it. A sham they cried. The polls are wrong they insisted. The election results proved the trend identified by multiple polling was accurate.

You can choose to ignore the trends. Live in denial if it makes you feel better. The polling since the election shows that the PTP has held on to its popular support and is slowly but surely building on that support base. I can see why some people are scared.

OK ignore the polls.

Take a walk around rural Thailand and talk to the people.

Most I talk to are pro PTP. Not just my village but diverse locations when we visit my wifes family!

Their arguement is that the Dems never did anything for them (very valid point) and only looks after big biz the military etc.

They don't think PTP has made miracles yet but they do believe that it is going in the right direction.

These people not us (guests) are the voters!

Yeah I know what you mean. I hear this same bullshit up here in Udon. I use to explain to my friends here the real story but they only believe what they are told by the village heads who are only reds shirts so we are pissing against the wind so to speak. I had one guy tell me the Democrats are the ones that took the free school uniforms away from them. I ask him where he learned this and he said from the village head.